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mshack msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk alt assassination jfk 1) Letting Ruby out with a rifle in his hand; this refers to the account of Julia Mercer; other ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/fe43703fa21a7762/d/98311f048bc4eace?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk We have quite a bit of data on Ruby. See, for example: Seth Kantor, Who Was Jack Ruby? http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/506923a891629fad/.../d55e12e568d0e3e3?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Eva Grant was the married name of Jack Ruby's sister. They were both from Chicago. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/77c9b18a5d1ec65c/.../8607ca099d8abd5f?... |
Time to read Who Was Jack Ruby? by Seth Kantor, a Dallas reporter, who (unlike Wills and Demaris) knew Ruby very well. Here's what Ike Pappas (in Reporting ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/3058e9de715cd3d7/.../6054f3dfafb52440?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Oswald was dyslexic, not Ruby. Martin -- Martin Shackelford "You're going to find that many of the ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/1fddd5ac99f157b0/.../bd413200a1e028f9?... |
Jack Ruby, Howard Hunt of the CIA, Frank Sturgis who works for HUNT, Jack Ruby, GEN. ED Landsdale, and others. My question is where was Georg Bush that ... http://groups.google.com/g/af17fef9/t/4ad989a84ac2c6ec/d/78f7f6f57adecf8f?hl... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk In case you missed it, Walt, the original question related to what Ruby said about his connection ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/c0c0da60ff3f0cc6/d/b8d0e725e8c1a40e?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk They happened at different time periods. Ruby was at the Dallas Morning News at the time of the ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/7ae719ad668dcd8a/.../c09b4f3e3cbb2932?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt assassination jfk alt assassinatio n jfk uncensored alt conspiracy jfk Only if the person was actually Oswald, and ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/6111c7b0ad1fdb75/.../df79391be2182521?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk To begin with the first question, Ruby died before the Garrison investigation went public, so he ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/a21ac2c7abaddb7a/d/3b1ff5472d9d9852?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Peter: I recommend The Ruby Cover-Up by Seth Kantor, a former Dallas reporter who knew Ruby, ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/cc4d1850b30e617/d/e76b143b674e22bd?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk You might want to take a look at the grain pattern in the blowup in That Day in Dallas, Trask's book ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/b741499c453cfc63/d/93af6f66ffadacdf?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Odd, Gerry and his brother spell Hemming without an "s". Martin -- Martin Shackelford "You're ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/ba12e2d24744c165/.../63b28bf2075c7efc?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Ruby wasn't "descended from White Russians." He was descended fromm Russian Jews who ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/69801ebc0e222781/.../4a90014c22c8e95f?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Clark: Thanks for posting this most interesting FBI teletype on Marcello. I hadn't yet read all of ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/b045534ee8af0f12/d/ab0f4ec4cae515cc?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk I think both the throat and the back wound were entrance wounds--at one point, JFK moves forward ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/827877d19c092ac7/.../a628cccda6808542?... |
Martin Amethyst wrote: Martin Shackelford wrote: Jerry: You're right that Ruby wasn't Marcello's second in command in Dallas. Campisi and Civello were the two ... http://groups.google.com/g/af17fef9/t/4ccd0709a44ce438/d/fcb01fbcd4ddb4b5?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Eva Grant was Jack Ruby's sister, not his sister-in-law. Martin cheneyshaw wrote: jack ruby's sister ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/b047424adebbcb89/.../3449aebc8fa2d027?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Possibly. That may be why he made sure he was at the Morning News at the time, to give himself ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/d4cec3feea0245f3/d/d5417e895eb32180?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Nevin: Ruby a "known murderer"? At the time Tippit was killed, who had Ruby murdered? http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/3481a63abd0e30b3/.../8e54a7ba57d62b27?... |
Harris cannot post evidence that Oswald and Ruby knew each other, despite the ... You also are aware of numerous other claims of witnesses who saw Ruby ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/bb2b474d687b3c51/.../2bc67974efac1ebe?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk There were two. One was by Jack Beers (taken just before the shot), the other by Robert Jackson ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/7bcf67e728899182/d/855ff2dd7c811f9c?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Repeating the "Lone Nut" label doesn't make it true, Ken. It's a lie, plain and simple. If you have any ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/6eff0f9706b77680/d/dbbb488fddea6c76?... |
She told him that she did not know David Ferrie and that at the dinner shared with Jack Ruby the conversation was light and confined to social topics and did not ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/ebeff051a1e97204/d/7569c77e1cdc501?... |
David, Oswald did indeed, know Jack Ruby. Evidence? There's truckloads. Here . . . plenty of room for those truckloads . . . Why don't you start with the fact that ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/e5338cbc83737346/.../81783cca928ad22c?... |
Jack Ruby gave a number of media interviews, some of which can be seen on "The Men Who Killed Kennedy." Kilgallen never had a private interview with him, ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/52390aebbb463acf/d/93c41a17bd23f8fe?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk There are a number of other photos that show the man--it isn't Ruby. Martin Tony Pitman wrote: On ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/98dff95e9ee12003/d/2c1bfc80a64d53f2?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk CBS did a TV movie called "Ruby and Oswald," based on the Warren Report version of things. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/ee4f4a99714fd143/d/3e9f7cc3604d618d?... |
... George Michael Evica Oswald Presumed Guilty by Howard Roffman Oswald and the CIA by John Newman Ruby The Ruby Cover-Up by Seth Kantor Medical ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/951b9a9551b08de6/.../90ad3dd82566132b?... |
Martin Leo Sgouros wrote: If Jack Ruby knew Bernard Weissman, why did he have to look for him all weekend and finally just track a po box down? Mark Lane ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/f41b8b48079e7b58/.../83d87f9aab5ee4ab?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Ruby smuggled a series of provocative notes out via sympathetic Sheriff's deputies, some of which ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/b54e08a19932c9a1/.../95df1c631a95cbc8?... |
And by the way, has anyone ever noted the references to the Anti-Defamation League in the WC testimony by Ruby's friend, Stanley Kaufman? Could it be ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/49214e1c4523970a/.../4e6c12c3529858fb?... |
Speakers currently listed include: KERRY MCCARTHY, Kennedy family member and historian Shari Angel--former Ruby stripper Joseph Backes--a great source ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/b4565ea7105a0a12/.../381d476b369f3bd7?... |
The KGB was told be a Baltimore Sun reporter that Ruby, working for Texas financiers and industrialists headed by Hunt, had offered Oswald a large sum of ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/ec0585cd27711964/.../2c8f95b8432c7437?... |
The source on Ruby's claim to be coming into money knew him very well, so there's no mistaken identity. DeMohrenschildt: I wish I could discuss this in more ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/12cd04ab220e7705/.../cfafb9d1749117d3?... |
Some of the Jack Ruby notes turned up that way. Martin rfein...@my-deja. com wrote: In article <19991012150547.29246.00000...@ng-fw1.aol.com>, ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/d0d417ee4abeb9bc/.../3f06ade355c059d7?... |
Lt Butler told Chief Curry that Oswald was the illligetimate son of Ruby .He signed a report as to it being true.He also told Jack Revill lt, of special service bureau. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/5d098717b6483151/.../cfe1aba8572d4236?... |
I'm sure that Ruby was a conspirator, but perhaps not in the way you think I do. And it's not based on "faith." Martin -- Martin Shackelford "You're going to find that ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/9123a892049ddd24/.../21a1fdeb7c0b04ae?... |
<Quote off> Of course, Martin, you've made it clear that you think a crank phone call is evidence that Karen Carlin knew of a conspiracy involving Jack Ruby, ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/fbc8fa22efe02d96/d/c4440ebde0e87034?... |
We have things to discuss here, thank you very much. Martin Cecil Carter wrote: 1. JFK is dead 2. Oswald is dead 3.Ruby is dead 4. My Boston Terrier is dead 5. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/7909637d28d541c3/.../5514aaff9f6be3b1?... |
Clay Shaw was involved in gunrunning with Jack Ruby (FHK, 120, 122). 5. Shaw and Ferrie personally supplied the CIA with munitions through Permindex with ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/21fd84c787d88c62/d/a934b8014bf7d0ff?... |
Ms. Oliver also says Jack Ruby was involved in drug smuggling and many other illegal ... Mark Lane dwells on Ruby knowing cops in "Rush To Judgment. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/e9f7966b9903ca5c/d/b3965b7c527ed5e?... |
Some began questioning when Oswald was shot by Ruby in the basement of the Dallas Police Department, surrounded by police. Some began questioning ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/be5c42ce5e7aed3f/d/d462fd5621471110?... |
A similar situation happened when Ruby shot Oswald--two photographers, each got a different shot due to the luck of timing. Martin -- Martin Shackelford "You're ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/8195f87744ed7732/.../9b3bd41f6307ae4f?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Wilma Tice, the woman who saw Ruby at Parkland (along with Roy Stamps, a local radio ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/9151f529132bac8a/.../7e667339f77839be?... |
Do you believe that she witnessed Oswald and Ruby together? Maranatha! Bob -- Martin Shackelford "You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/1cf75ec705ffdba1/d/acf507a749526153?... |
Martin Robert Harris wrote: David, In an effort to refute the fact that a committee of HSCA polygraphs experts unanimously concluded that Jack Ruby showed ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/5a73c62a220a1615/.../2d47b363238cfc64?... |
Isn't Donald Norton the guy who some researchers claim was the real Lee Harvey Oswald, not killed by Ruby, and living under a new name? Here, he seems ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/1b2d75831af0afe8/d/9c4ca44e309abb92?... |
Jack Ruby fired one shot from underneath the underpass area. Another shot came from an unknown location and could have came from a nearby shooting ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/dd576c0a5952aeb9/.../5289693ef1e9280d?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Milhouse: 1) Ruby had been stalking Oswald since Friday. He just got his first good opportunity on ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/a4000b59adf639ed/d/16865e8e8d3cdf4f?... |
He says he was told that Ruby killed Oswald after Tippit botched the job. Martin -- Martin Shackelford "You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/65e13c8f8d437f3f/.../b9d09c40d53605e1?... |
... for example, a map of the Plaza keys to photos of a variety of witnesses; notes by Jack Ruby indicating there was more to the assassination; and other exhibits. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/9c0e3beb9f095f0a/.../e91737cbd1843d18?... |
... the Warren volumes because it was an exhibit about which Marguerite Oswald was asked--she had been shown the photo, and thought it showed Jack Ruby. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/d26555f595bba59f/.../c10c051ac58e6504?... |
There are apparent ties with Zapruder to the CIA. [Evidence for this?] Also Zapruder went to the same Synagogue as Jack Ruby and must of known each other. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/249e6f6f72e0ba81/.../9354075ddbed9dda?... |
Frankly, the closest anyone's come is the La Fontaines with their Elrod story linking Oswald and Ruby, and I consider their theory unsupported by fact or common ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/2f6d0b4660dea4e1/.../494841ba54453196?... |
... those names for a long time before the Bay of Pigs, and were not named by or for George Bush; the Ruby-Nixon document is not "newly discovered," and there ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/f1b4888448f5267a/d/cb1d9e0117df87f3?... |
The autopsy photo's and x-rays were faked, bullets planted, Oswald was killed by Ruby who was injected by a cancer drug and died. Most of the witnesses were ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/8859c168ff6c42b9/.../d1fb282829d5249d?... |
Martin Shackelford msh...@concentric.net alt conspiracy jfk Rick: In his "dying days," Ruby insisted he wasn't part of a conspiracy (see the recording "The ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/e7f3a36aab35bbc6/d/3c38c0abb85b3ec8?... |
... might be able to file one if you could prove that Assistant Police Chief Charles Bachelor escorted Jack Ruby into the jail basement, as some reports indicate. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/98542c0ae77222d7/.../16277ddd01f90fc8?... |
There seems to have been an authentic connection between Geneva White and Jack Ruby, for whom she at least worked briefly, but I'm not sure how reliable ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/b55a24ff7101e66b/.../333b401b745d8db4?... |
Maybe they didn't want the Elrod-Miller-Ruby thing exposed, apart from the assassination. There wasn't just one cover-up in this case, there were many. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/4e256129417a298/d/4e198962b9f98805?... |
Very few were interviewed first by anyone from the Commission. Even then, interviews were oddly handled. When Jack Ruby was interviewed, the staff attorneys ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/f8b367f804ef6784/d/8bd9bf727599ccea?... |
(September 24, 1964) Jack Ruby: "The Warren Commission! What the hell do they know? Did they learn anything you couldn't read in the papers the next day? http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/c20adb39bc36b3ab/.../f9da4d698c02a1db?... |
If these stress tests are discounted because of a claim that these kinds of tests are invalid, then we also should throw out the Ruby lie-detector test for the same ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/d630b516405d1891/d/dce5a41ad57ace3?... |
[snipping] "Mysterious death" #14: Marilyn Moone Walle ("Delilah ") "Dancer employed by Ruby 11/22/63 . . . Shot by husband after one month of marriage . http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/79d2b3f9eed7102f/d/c4d57053bc213ca?... |
"He tracked down a Mafia hit man who claimed that he had delivered some stolen rifles to Jack Ruby a few weeks before the assassination." In the spring of ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/aef8597ec6091f8a/d/3fbe1add2e0de98b?... |
... Oswald" -- the person born Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orelans but NOT the man killed in Dallas by Jack Ruby -- who Armstrong theorizes DID speak Spanish ... http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/b36d8acf00e0f2de/d/cdc89ee274da7159?... |
... made clear to us their desire that the FBI back off their harassment of citizens in this country as well in terms of its activities such as Waco and Ruby Ridge. http://groups.google.com/g/e797ff03/t/bec43ba2b35dc4da/.../6470f1cd0a708619?... |
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