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Boomer Brown

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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Thought it might be interesting for everyone to share how they got
started playing. With that said, here's my story.

1968. I'm twelve years old, and waiting with my father for my mother to
get off from work from a Rose's department store. The store was closed,
and a stockboy sweeping the floor knocked over a display in the music
department. On the display was a 3-piece set of silver sparkle BEN-TONE
drums. On their way down, the resonant heads of the snare and bass
ripped. The manager, not knowing that you could replace the heads,
asked me if I wanted them (he could take the write off). To my
surprise, my Dad said I could keep them.

They came with one drum stick, as the other had been lost. I played for
three months with one stick and the end-piece of a bamboo fishing pole
before I got my first pair of sticks. The broken heads were taped up
and remained that way for three years, at which time a I purchased a
student-level Gretsch kit.

That's my story. What's yours?

Boomer Brown
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John Monroe

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Boomer Brown wrote:
>
> Thought it might be interesting for everyone to share how they got
> started playing...
>
> That's my story. What's yours?
>

Well.....
Christmas about 1970, I'm about 12, not sure but Santa was "The Man"
brought me a four piece, black and white zebra pearl, Whitehall set.
Some real bad hats and a base drum mounted single 18" cymbal that
sounded like it was cut from the bottom of a garbage can. I LOVED them.
They beat the hell out of the assorted Maxwell House cans I played until
then. A buddy of mine pieced an old Gretsch guitar back together that
had been in a fire or something and we rigged a way of plugging it into
an old record player. We played Grand Funk's "Heartbreaker" over and
over and over...(give it a listen some time. You'll see why)
I've still got 'em. It was a kick to see my kid play them at an
elementary school talent show a couple of years ago. (he prefers dad's
Yamaha RC's now) That's my story... it gets fuzzy after that. After all,
it was the 70's..... and you young punks.. Take notes, These ARE the
Good 'Ol Days!

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Tyson Conn

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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I was 17 yrs old and listening to the local rock radio station in town.
They play "Enter Sandman" by Metallica and I just thought the drumming
rocked in that song, then immediately following that song, on comes "Tom
Saweyr" by Rush and after those two songs I was sucked into drumming.
As a child I had always been fascinated with drums, but my parents
wouldn't let me get anything to do with drums do to the amount of noise,
the curiousity had always been there and after hearing those two songs I
begged for about 6 months strait. I finally got my first set at the age
of 17 and started to take drum lessons. I had to quit due to college,
but still play along with songs on the radio and practice on a regular
basis. I also started listening to Jazz and Swing music. There is just
so much you can do with this instrument! About 10 years of nagging is
how I got my start!

Tyson

Om...@hotmail.com

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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Ok here we go
I'd just turned 16 and metallica was a big part of my life :)

My brother was playing drums but I kept sneaking in for a bash when he
wasnt home, getting caught and smashed for it many a time.

In the end, the competition got too much for him and he decided to go
play guitar, selling his drumkit in the process. It was while I was
saving for a drumkit that my mother won the jackpot in a lottery and
offered us each a 'present'....In rolled my drumkit and lessons
thereafter :)

Yes, Im lucky :)

Omen O;-)

Bongo Al

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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I 've played many intruments for years, played in groups, college jazz band but
never a percussion instrument. I alway have tuned in to melody and chord
progressions when listening to music. One night about four months ago I had a
dream that I was walking down an alley way and found a snare drum in a trash
can someone thru out. It also had a pair of stick with it. I played it and it
was fine. When I awoke, I went out and bought a pair of bongos, the next month
a pair of conga, and the next month a pair of timbales. I love playing the
drums. I feel like I am addited to them.
Peace, Al

s damron

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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I was approx. 9 years old, had quite taking the piano lessons my
mother wanted me to take, and wanted a drum set really bad. My dad was a
farmer and paid me $1 an acre to hoe(chop) the weeds in his cotton. l
chopped 40 acres and bought a plastic set from Sears with it. I don't know
if it was a test to see how bad I wanted them or not, but they let me play
all I wanted right up to bed time all through growing up. Got to play my
first gig at 13, and my first real bar at 14 ( and got to dance with
college girls at that gig, but didn't have a clue what to do). DRUMS ARE
COOL.

Boomer Brown <brow...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> Thought it might be interesting for everyone to share how they got

> started playing. With that said, here's my story.
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MegalDeth

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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i got started in about '90. i wanted to play drums, so i joined the the school
band. i just got my first kit last christmas, it was a royce, a few months ago
i got a new kit. pearl presteig sesison teal blue
_____________________________________________________________________
Tony

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don't know what to do on a rainy afternoon.

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strat81

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Four years ago, in June of '95 I BEGGED my parents for a guitar. I
wanted to play guitar because I was a BIG metallica fan and thought
that James Hetfield was the coolest guy in the world (he still is!).
So, for 8th grade garduation, they got me a shiity squier electric
guitar. I started taking lessons and learned how to play the damn
thing. The Squier is almost dead, I have a Les Paul and a Tele
filling in for him.

Anyways, once I started, my friend was like COOL! I WANNA PLAY! So,
he went out and bought a bass. So with him, and another one of my
friends who played guitar, we started jamming and had our own little
band. Enter Sandman was the first song we could all play together and
it's still a staple of rehearsal. The problem with the band was that
we had no drummer. So, in Oct. of '98, I was like, What the hell,
I'll do it! So I went out and bought this shiity CB00 set. Now I
wail on the tubs for my band instead of grinding on the cherry axe. I
love playing my guitar but drums are WAY more fun.

**********
People is People.
Parts is Parts.
Dead People is Parts.
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Dan Rader

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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I must have had something implanted in my brain when I was little, since I
don't remember a time where I haven't been tapping my fingers to some kind
of pattern, either to relieve boredom, or to annoy teachers :) However, just
being a hyperactive youth never led me to drum, since I tried a few other
instruments, which all bored the hell out of me, until I started the
Saxophone in 4th grade... Played that for school until two years ago (I
won't even get into my Marching Band/Sousaphone experience) SO...
... I guess it's the same old-same old garage band cliche, but yes... A
friend and I were hot for Floyd, Zeppelin, Who, Hendrix, etc, and we set our
sights on playing gigs and putting this damn town on the map. So we started
'jammin' in his garage, and since he had a set (Pearl Maxwin - With some
Scimitar hihats, and no other cymbals...), I played that for about a month.
At home I was playing on an old Yamaha drum synth with 4 pads to practice...
I then remembered the drums in the basement, and brought them up to my room,
with one major stipulation: No snare. Or kick pedal. Or stands. Or Cymbals.
Etc. Just the 4 pcs :) I've now got a full set, with a nice hihat, crash,
splash, china, and a ride...
Originally, I was going to play bass, though that changed quickly when
the musically challenged friend pissed us off with bad drumming
(Non-existant drumming, actually :). So...We're still without a bass, and a
person to play it... Although we've got a second guitar, who has only been
playing since Christmas. Since then, I've pillaged his set for needed parts,
and have stuck them on my Rogers...
And to think that I've only been drumming for about a month and a half
(On a kit :) amazes the hell out of me... You guys have been great with
questions, gear, etc. I feel proud when someone who has been playing
professionally for 'X' amount of years replies to one of my 'newbiesque'
questions!
Dan

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Patrick J. Cuff Jr.

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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As a toddler I was always bagging on things; coffee cans, table tops. My
grandfather taught me how to hold the sticks (he was a drummer in the Army).
I'd "play" along with my older sisters' Partridge Family records. In
kindergarten I got the part of The Little Drummer Boy in the school
Christmas pageant. The teacher was so impressed that I knew how to hold the
sticks she got the music teacher to get me a real snare drum to play for the
show. That's all it took...I was hooked.

-- Pat

Russell m. Gellman

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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Ron Gutman..... kid lived a few blocks away, and in 5th grade we were
arch rivals..... two years later we had a friend in common, and one day I
was hanging with Ron, and he brought me down to his basement where he had
a 6 piece set of Pearl Exports in Ferrari red (or such) and Paiste
cymbals. He wailed for a few minutes, and that was it, I knew I wanted
to do that. Begged for lessons, and in Novermber 1986 my mom tells me
she finally (it had been 9 months of waiting) got me lessons at the Long
Island Drum Cente (Queens). That's how it started.... Always played
some instrument before that, but the drums is where clicked.
5 months later I bought my first guitar and started teaching
myself. Bass came a few years later, and I've been playing all three
ever since...
-R

Boomer Brown (brow...@aol.com) wrote:
: Thought it might be interesting for everyone to share how they got


: started playing. With that said, here's my story.

:
: 1968. I'm twelve years old, and waiting with my father for my mother to


: get off from work from a Rose's department store. The store was closed,
: and a stockboy sweeping the floor knocked over a display in the music
: department. On the display was a 3-piece set of silver sparkle BEN-TONE
: drums. On their way down, the resonant heads of the snare and bass
: ripped. The manager, not knowing that you could replace the heads,
: asked me if I wanted them (he could take the write off). To my
: surprise, my Dad said I could keep them.
:
: They came with one drum stick, as the other had been lost. I played for
: three months with one stick and the end-piece of a bamboo fishing pole
: before I got my first pair of sticks. The broken heads were taped up
: and remained that way for three years, at which time a I purchased a
: student-level Gretsch kit.

:
: That's my story. What's yours?
:
: Boomer Brown


: http://www.angelfire.com/ky/boomerbrown
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MICHAEL L RYAN

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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Well it is a long story.... and I started twice

I was about six years old, in 1976, when my parents bought me my first drum
set. It was one of those sets you found in the sears catalog. I played it
(for lack of a better word) for about a year when my parents made me take
lessons. I actually got pretty good. I played in the jazz band in middle
school. I won the talent show with my first band. At sixteen I was in a
garage band (Scratch Nothing) that played heavy metal (metallica, Van Halen,
Rush, Motley Crue, etc ). After several months of watching the singer and
guitar player get the best looking girls, I switched to guitar.

I was in a lot of bands over those years. I played in metal bands, country
bands and cover bands. I was never good enough at guitar to be the lead
guitar player. I was the lead singer in two bands, but still was a crappy
guitar player. In 1993 I was in a band with a close friend (Jim "The
Bastard") and he fired me because I couldn't get the changes down to several
songs. He kept telling me it wasn't personal. Yeah right, not for him!

It took several years for me to get over that. Then eight months ago I went
to Jim's band rehearsal. His drummer was late and I was sitting on his
throne when I noticed he had a left a set of sticks on the floor. I picked
them up and played drums for the first time in twelve (12) years. It was so
much fun that I bought a Roland TDK-7 set the next week. Four months ago I
purchased a set of TAMA Rock Star Customs...... so I could replace the
drummer in Jim's band.

He tells me I wasted 12 years playing the guitar. I would have to agree. It
is nice to know how to play guitar and sing, but drums are a hell of a lot
more fun to play in a band and my wife won't let me chase after the cute
girls anyway!

The GnatMan

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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> It took several years for me to get over that. Then eight months ago I went
> to Jim's band rehearsal. His drummer was late and I was sitting on his
> throne when I noticed he had a left a set of sticks on the floor. I picked
> them up and played drums for the first time in twelve (12) years. It was so
> much fun that I bought a Roland TDK-7 set the next week. Four months ago I
> purchased a set of TAMA Rock Star Customs...... so I could replace the
> drummer in Jim's band.
>
> He tells me I wasted 12 years playing the guitar. I would have to agree. It
> is nice to know how to play guitar and sing, but drums are a hell of a lot
> more fun to play in a band and my wife won't let me chase after the cute
> girls anyway!

Amen to that! If you read my previous post about drummers not being
musicians, you'd know that I had some doubts (only small ones!) about
playing the drums, but I realised that they are the funnest instrument to
play (great on relieving stress too). On reading this post, it's put the
lid on the subject for me. I know we shouldn't have to defend what we
play, but I just wanted to re-iterate the fact that drums are a hell of a
lot of fun! I failed to mention too that I have tried taking up the
guitar, and, while it's a worthwhile instrument to play, it gives nowhere
near the amount of pleasure that drums can. Dicking around with your
fingers isn't the same as cranking out a killer beat that gets the whole
room going!


dtbrew

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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It was about 1976 and I was around 9 when I heard Parliament's "Do That
Stuff". The intro has a funky drum solo that I listened to repeatedly. It
was so cool! A friend and I would play set patterns with our hands on the
hoods of cars bongo-style. A neighbor let me borrow her husband's field
drum when I started drumming in junior high school. I was extremely
fortunate that the band instructor was principally a percussionist who was
excellent at teaching all percussion instruments. Thankfully he's still
teaching at the middle school. As a token of my appreciation I donated
$200 to the school's band a year ago.

Mike Rittenhouse

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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In article <7d28ma$9ri4$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>, "MICHAEL L
RYAN" <KTH...@prodigy.net> wrote:

> Well it is a long story.... and I started twice

Hey, me too!

1977-ish- I was 10, and I was given a choice for my birthday... I narrowed
it down to either a typewriter or a toy drum set at Eatons. Took the
drums, and killed them.

I got a beater set of Stewarts and some Zildjians a year later, and took 5
months of lessons, but quit soon after because of moving, and not having
anyone to jam with. 3 years later I sold the drums to buy a motorcycle,
but not before jamming my first tune... "Takin' Care of Business" by BTO.

I was drumless for a few years, but couldn't stay away from it.

Mike
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Chris Milillo

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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Mike Rittenhouse wrote:

> I got a beater set of Stewarts and some Zildjians a year later,
>

> Mike

Hey Mike! My 1st kit was a 4 pc. red sparkle Stewart! I got it in Feb. 1978, 2
months after my 10th birthday. Now for my start...

A bunch of my friends (like 5) were taking lessons from this guy who came to
their houses. We all lived in the same development. (Imagine that for a
second, teachers. 5 students within 1/4 of a mile!) One day I sat down at my
friend's drums and w/o any coaching, I played a few beats and fills. That's
all it took. When I went home, I asked my mom if I could take drum lessons and
she was all for it. She said as long as I was serious, she'd get me a drum set
after my teacher gave her the go-ahead. A month later I had proven myself and
I found the Stewarts in a local paper. And that's it!
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Soulbelly

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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i'm the classic 'banging on everything in sight since i was a toddler' story.
so, in 1977. i'm 7 years old and my dad has just recently purchased me an
acoustic guitar, because he wants me to be a musician. as an aside, he passed
away in 1983, and i gave the guitar away a year before that. there are few
things i regret in my life, but...

anyway, my brother took me to see a huge show in the summer of 77. i was
watching the drummer the whole time. i had no idea what he was doing (hell, i
could barely *see* what he was doing!), but i knew i wanted to do THAT.

so, the next day, i started pestering my mom & dad for drums. i had no idea
what i wanted or needed, but i knew that i wanted drums. so, after almost a
year or so, they buy me a cheap snare drum, thinking that's the last they'll
hear of it. no such luck.

so, fast forward to 1992. i'm at my brother's house with my girlfriend - one of
the last times i've ever seen my brother - watching tv. mtv, i think. led
zeppelin is on - i still remember this - the video that was made for 'traveling
riverside blues,' for the boxed set.

my brother looks at me and says, 'do you remember when i took you to see them
when you were seven? i know you were probably too young to see a show like
that.'

!!!!

true story.

peace,
nick
soulbelly.

*It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages.*
*In the future, we will have all been drummers for Pearl Jam.*

13612

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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I can't remember when I actually started, but I have seen pictures (those on
my website) of me when I was a baby. My first true memory of playing was
when I was three, I found my dad's gold sparkle Ludwigs in the Utility
closet in the garage. I would go out there and bang around.....Finally, one
day he actually set them up!! I was estatic...This I remember- sitting down
behind them and feeling 100% at home, and realizing that I had a *long* road
ahead of me. I really remember that! So I watched my dad play some Jazz
stuff, and he was the best drummer in the world to me!
I gained some proficiency on the instrument, and the neighborhood kids
started coming over and hanging out. Pretty soon, I wasn't the geek anymore!
But by default, living in the south and not playing football, I was soon
returned to my rightful geek slot. But every once in a while, it was cool
to come hang out with the "neighbor kid that plays drums" and I would make
signs out of paper bags leading to my garage door (as if anyone NEEDED
directions) and try to charge for admission. (a whopping 1 penny). I
remember the neighbor across the street brought his whole family over and
sat them down to watch me perform. My first audience!
I was hanging out on the corner one fine day, and this neighbor kid with
a MUCH older brother comes up to my buddies and me and says "Did you guys go
to the KISS concert last night?" I thought of a bunch of people standing
around kissing. To a five year old, EWWWW.....GROSS! I (you guessed it) said
no, and then he proceeded to brag about how he (actually, he was living
vicariously through his brother's recollection) went and saw "the hottest
band in the world." I still didn't get it. Then the following year KISS came
through town. I saw the commercial on TV for the show, and was HOOKED!!! I
saw Peter Criss, on the BIGGEST drumset I've ever seen and he was this
Cartoon character and I wanted to be him. No, I had to be him! So I want and
sought out the neighbor kid who started this whole KISS thing (early
development of networking skills), and proceeded to go to his house every
day and listen to and drool over his brothers extensive KISS album
collection. By this time, I had bothered my mom and dad enough that they
bought me "Destroyer" on 8 track, and I used to play along to that all the
time. That was my favorite album!!!
So Here I am, playing to KISS records, staging drum "performances," and
getting into more music. I discovered Styx, and found that my mom wasn't
such a square; she took me to that concert! It got postponed, and I was
bummed! So finally, it went down and on April 21st I and my family went to
the Mississippi Coliseum and I enjoyed my first concert (there was this
funny smell that made it even more enjoyable)
One other Element was seeing this photo shoot my dad did for a band
called the Royal American Showmen- A bazillion peice showband with this guy
that resembled Jeff Porcaro (although I didn't know that at that time.) He
had his drums set up in the photo studio, and sat down and played a KILLER
solo that blew my little 9 year old mind!! This drummer was/is our very own
DRUMGURU (George Lawrence) George, I have photos of you from then!! (Should
I post them?) Haha!!! So thanks to George Lawrence also for being my first
real-life Mentor.
So anyway, What really did it for me was seeing Peter Criss, but through
High School I found music was a great esteem booster for me, as I was pretty
good at playing drums! I see this happen all the time with kids I teach-
they come in shy and timid and before you know it, they are Mr./Mrs. Popular
at their school!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it...........
13612
"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the
right
place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
PS- That was My letter in the new MD (Bill Ray) So this post came at an
opportune time!
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Blaine Bisanti

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It's 1991. I'm 12. My first year of high school. My job in my band class
(which everyone was forced to take) was to play the xylophone to songs like
jingle bells. I play a wee bit of piano, so I thought what the heck, why
bother complaining. Then, as things came to pass, I realized that hitting
was a lot more fun than pressing. Well, this was at about the same time that
first started listening to music as well, and I discovered a band called Led
Zepplin. I found a stack of old vinyl in my basement that my older brother
had abandoned some 10 or 15 years earlier (there's a big gap in my family).
In the same time period, I also met some people who played guitars and they
all idolized slash and said "hey man, don't learn guitar, that's what we're
doing. Learn the drums and we'll make a band" So we made a band and it
lasted a couple of years until I moved with my parents.

How I actually got my first drumset:
I started working when I was twelve. I had a paper route that I did with my
parents every wednesday. I think I made about $10 a week. I squirreled it
for the longest time as best I could, and had about $300 by christmastime.
That's a good time to be in the market for something. Well, my dad takes me
on down to this place called Steve's music, and there's a whole lotta drums
down there for one twelve year old to play with. I came away from that place
with a set of Westburys. Dad made up the rest of the cost of the drums,
bought me some cymbals and some sound-offs. He said to me that if I didn't
get the silencers, mom would not live with us anymore.

Mother still doesn't like the blasted things.

BB

Jesse C. Chang

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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I've always wanted to learn music from as far back as I could remember.
When I was 4, I wanted to learn flute and piano, but my parents couldn't
afford lessons (we just immigrated to the U.S. and bought a house). When
I was a little older, around 8 or 9, and had been listening to a lot of
70s and 80s pop music, I developed an affinity for the drums, and did the
whole banging around the house with chopsticks thing, driving my parents
crazy.

At 10, I finally started on piano lessons, which ended when I was 17 (but
I was so accelerated that I got bored after the second year, when I found
I wasn't developing as a player, just learning new pieces over and over;
unfortunately, it didn't occur to myself or my parents to find a better
teacher). When I was in high school, my brother turned me on to heavy
metal, and that's when the drumming bug bit me again. My brother plays a
bit of bass and guitar, and jammed infrequently with a drummer friend, so
I would always go over and noodle around on his drums. About 6 months
before my piano lessons ended, I had finally saved up enough money to buy
myself a drumset. I pretty much taught myself through books, videos, and
joining my high school and university (at the time, UCSB) jazz ensembles,
even though I had no idea how to play jazz. I also met a couple drummers
who had corps backgrounds, who taught me some rudiments.

This entire time, it never occurred to me that I might pursue music on a
professional level. I studied Chemical Engineering while at UCSB, but I
decided after a couple years that I wanted to study music. My parents
would not allow it, and that (along with various other personal problems
I had at the time) caused me to stop attending classes entirely until I
dropped out. My parents tried to force me back into school to finish my
ChemE degree, but for much of the year after dropping out, I took some of
the money I was making working and spent them on drumset lessons. I was
very lucky there too, because my teacher is the brother-in-law of someone
I knew from work. Turns out he's an L.A. studio drummer, friend of the
Porcaro family, studied with Murray Spivack, Freddie Gruber, and a whole
bunch of other greats, does the award shows every year for Dick Clark,
toured with Boz Skaggs, etc. etc....so anyways, he didn't really want to
teach again, having been burnt out on teaching back in the 70s, but I
told him I just wanted 5 weeks of lessons, then I was moving to Boston to
attend Berklee (I had already gotten in, and my parents didn't know). He
agreed, and ended up liking me as a person and as a student enough that
instead of charging me his usual $40/hour rate, he charged me $100 for an
8-hour lesson. My parents finally realized what was going on, so they
caved in, and I stayed with my teacher for another 5 months, during which
time I also won a scholarship from the University of the Arts in Philly,
and eventually went there.

After my relationship with my parents improved enough, and after I became
interested in studying much more than jazz (I also studied mallets and
timpani, but they didn't count towards my major), I decided UArts wasn't
the right school for me. Unfortunately, I became very ill when I was to
prepare my audition tape for CalArts (I didn't know where else I could
do jazz, classical, and world music _performance_ (most schools offer
world music stuff as part of Ethnomusicology I found)), so I didn't get
out of UArts until after my third year. Now I'm in my first and last
year at CalArts (heh), put my drumset studies on hold, and my mallet and
timpani studies have become my major lesson...but I spend more time in
the gamelan room than in the percussion room, doing Balinese and Javanese
gamelan, Balinese suling (flute), gender wayang (Balinese metallophone
quartet), and kecak (Balinese monkey chant). I'm also doing North Indian
tabla this semester. I had to leave behind several potential bands in
Philly, but now I'm back with the band I left to go to Philly, plus I've
all sorts of new West Coast contacts, which is much more important, not
to mention people I can play gamelan music with. And I also have a great
opportunity to study with a Chinese musician who plays all sorts of
traditional Chinese instruments, and has played with the likes of Kronos
Quartet. He asked me to become his student and study Chinese percussion
and, after I've learned enough of the repertory, join his group and gig
with him (he is somehow able to make a living gigging and teaching this
stuff, so it sure seems like a good opportunity). And I'm going to go
back to studying with my old drumset teacher this summer, and maybe go
into the studio with him. I wouldn't mind going back to CalArts for grad
school, but I don't have a scholarship here, and I don't know if I'll get
one for next year, and I really can't afford to borrow as much as I did
this year to go here again.

Okay, so that was more than just how I got my start. :) Sorry, just had
a lot of weird things happen, so I thought I'm mention the major ones.


Jesse

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Remo Paiste

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Well, it was 1980 or '81. I just returned my trombone to the music store
where my parents rented it. 5th grade was over and so was band. While I
was sittin' in the back of my parent's car a song came on the radio. I
started bangin' on the head rest to the beat. I asked my dad if I could
get some drum sticks. Next, I started takin' lessons. ( quit after
couple of years )
About 3 - 4 months later, I came home from a Saturday lesson and there
was a very used 5 piece gold sparkle Ludwing set sittin' in the living
room. After 5 years of trashing around and learning how to repair a
bunch of things on the kit, my dad offered to buy me a new drum set
which I jam on to this day.
Only the heads and cymbals have been changed to protect the sound :-D
Great Group!!!!!!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
" The child says NO!
You go get them, that means YES! "

-- W. Cosby --


strat81

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>Anyways, once I started, my friend was like COOL! I WANNA PLAY! So,
>he went out and bought a bass. So with him, and another one of my
>friends who played guitar, we started jamming and had our own little
>band. Enter Sandman was the first song we could all play together and
>it's still a staple of rehearsal. The problem with the band was that
>we had no drummer. So, in Oct. of '98, I was like, What the hell,
>I'll do it! So I went out and bought this shiity CB70 set. Now I

>wail on the tubs for my band instead of grinding on the cherry axe. I
>love playing my guitar but drums are WAY more fun.

Ok, I'm a dumb ass. I started playing in Nov. of 97, not in 98. In
98 i recorded some album where I played all the instruments and sang
(my singing sucks). Brainfart on my part.

Joe Smerdon

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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>> He tells me I wasted 12 years playing the guitar. I would have to agree. It
>> is nice to know how to play guitar and sing, but drums are a hell of a lot
>> more fun to play in a band and my wife won't let me chase after the cute
>> girls anyway!
>
>Amen to that! If you read my previous post about drummers not being
>musicians, you'd know that I had some doubts (only small ones!) about
>playing the drums, but I realised that they are the funnest instrument to
>play (great on relieving stress too). On reading this post, it's put the
>lid on the subject for me. I know we shouldn't have to defend what we
>play, but I just wanted to re-iterate the fact that drums are a hell of a
>lot of fun! I failed to mention too that I have tried taking up the
>guitar, and, while it's a worthwhile instrument to play, it gives nowhere
>near the amount of pleasure that drums can. Dicking around with your
>fingers isn't the same as cranking out a killer beat that gets the whole
>room going!
>

I started off with piano and hated it. After two years of that crap I
saw some guy play drums in our school music room, and knew that was what
I was gonna do.

Five years later (four years after I started playing drums properly) I
tried to learn guitar. I was shit. I wanted to HIT things, not slide
around like a girl or something. I can't get around how metallers whack
on their guitars and show they're getting some satisfaction out of it,
cos I sure as hell can't. I need to HIT stuff.

just my 2pence worth.

joe
--
Joe Smerdon

Ina

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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Joe Smerdon <pla...@stoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> tried to learn guitar. I was shit. I wanted to HIT things, not slide
> around like a girl or something. I can't get around how metallers whack
^^^^^
??? *huh* ???... whaddaya think of THIS guy,
Rimrunner, Melohawk and all the others out there???

Tried guitar, too... but as soon as I hit a drum for the first time
I was hooked. Unfortunately I was already 23 then but so what...
I'm not the only late starter around here remembering the "oldie"
thread some time last fall..

Ina

=== musician cartoons @ http://home.pages.de/~ina/cartoons/music_e.html ===

Joe Smerdon

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In article <7d825t$1ap$1...@inf2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>, Ina
<i...@studbox.FckSpm.uni-stuttgart.de> writes

>Joe Smerdon <pla...@stoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> tried to learn guitar. I was shit. I wanted to HIT things, not slide
>> around like a girl or something. I can't get around how metallers whack
> ^^^^^
>??? *huh* ???... whaddaya think of THIS guy,
>Rimrunner, Melohawk and all the others out there???
>
>Tried guitar, too... but as soon as I hit a drum for the first time
>I was hooked. Unfortunately I was already 23 then but so what...
>I'm not the only late starter around here remembering the "oldie"
>thread some time last fall..
No offence intended to guitarists - at least I don't go around saying
drummers aren't musicians, which at least one guitarist has said himself
on this group :-)

I just meant guitar was not for me.

joe
--
Joe Smerdon

Ina

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Joe Smerdon <pla...@stoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> tried to learn guitar. I was shit. I wanted to HIT things, not slide
>>> around like a girl or something. I can't get around how metallers whack
>> ^^^^^
> No offence intended to guitarists - at least I don't go around saying

alright... you obviously still did not get it ;-) but never mind,
I just wondered where/why/what you think girls slide around
just curious... maybe I missed something in my school days?!

strat81

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>>Tried guitar, too... but as soon as I hit a drum for the first time
>>I was hooked. Unfortunately I was already 23 then but so what...
>>I'm not the only late starter around here remembering the "oldie"
>>thread some time last fall..
>No offence intended to guitarists - at least I don't go around saying
>drummers aren't musicians, which at least one guitarist has said himself
>on this group :-)
>
If that was intended for me, it was a joke...

m'own

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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Ringo
when I was about 8 the beatles played the famous ed sullivan show. my
brother who is 8 yrs older than me (and can play about any instument but
hardly ever does anymore) and I watched. he joined a band not long
after as drummer. I banged on his kit to beatles and everly brothers
(my even older sisters' records) and later to my monkees records. when
my brother went to vietnam he left his drums in my care. my neighbor
strumed guitar and we played nearly every day. when I was in 5th grade
the school offered string lessons and I took violin. in 6th grade they
offered band and I signed up for snare drum. so many kids took drum
that the school told me I had to stay with violin or nothing. I studied
violin for 7 yrs and couldn't play it now if you held a gun to my head.
but I still had my brothers drums. he came home from the army (a couple
of neighborhood guys did not) and took the drums to his new home then
sold them. that was about 1973. later I started getting into harleys
and kinda forgot the drums. then in 82 one of my neighbors son's sold
me a slingerland kit with paiste cymbles for 100 bucks /5 bucks a week.
I started jamming with a guy from work then moved to Ky in 85. I made
4grand my first year here on that $100 dollar kit and have been working
nearly every weekend since. I play pearl/zildjian now but still have the
slingerlands.
sorry this was so long I'm usually not this talkative
Donnie


Rimrunner

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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In article <ofwNLHAC...@stoc.demon.co.uk>,
>>Joe Smerdon <pla...@stoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> tried to learn guitar. I was shit. I wanted to HIT things, not slide
>>> around like a girl or something. I can't get around how metallers whack
>> ^^^^^
>>??? *huh* ???... whaddaya think of THIS guy,
>>Rimrunner, Melohawk and all the others out there???
>>
>>Tried guitar, too... but as soon as I hit a drum for the first time
>>I was hooked. Unfortunately I was already 23 then but so what...
>>I'm not the only late starter around here remembering the "oldie"
>>thread some time last fall..
>No offence intended to guitarists - at least I don't go around saying
>drummers aren't musicians, which at least one guitarist has said himself
>on this group :-)
>
>I just meant guitar was not for me.

Uh...she wasn't referring to the "guitarist" part of the statement, dear.

Rimrunner
want some condiments for that shoe leather?
--
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"Hey, don't look at me; my ancestors only had six directions, and they
were only sacred if they led to lunch." -- Bill Woody


Rimrunner

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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In article <7d825t$1ap$1...@inf2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>,

Ina <i...@studbox.FckSpm.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:
>Joe Smerdon <pla...@stoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> tried to learn guitar. I was shit. I wanted to HIT things, not slide
>> around like a girl or something. I can't get around how metallers whack
> ^^^^^
>??? *huh* ???... whaddaya think of THIS guy,
>Rimrunner, Melohawk and all the others out there???

Geez, take a few weeks off and look what happens...:)

I just started classical guitar again, but I love drums. Besides, I have
it on good authority that there's nothing sexier than a chick drummer.
(Sooo, how come I have so much trouble getting laid?)

>Tried guitar, too... but as soon as I hit a drum for the first time
>I was hooked. Unfortunately I was already 23 then but so what...
>I'm not the only late starter around here remembering the "oldie"
>thread some time last fall..

Got started when I was 15, my parents hated it. They're much cooler about
it now, possibly because I'm practicing my drums 3000 miles away from
them.

Rimrunner
and i got a house! soundproofed basement, here i come!

Rimrunner

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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I was 15 1/2 when I started playing, but my interest goes back much
farther. In elementary school I loved the sound of the drums, and how they
were the first thing you heard on the way to a school assembly. I played
viola in fourth grade, and clarinet in fifth and sixth. I wanted to play
drums, but my parents said no--too noisy, and they thought I should stick
with one instrument.

Years went by and I tried other things. I took harpsichord lessons from a
local piano teacher, and classical guitar, playing my father's old Alvarez
(I think it was) that he'd gotten in college. He was a good guitarist, and
I was always bummed that he hadn't kept playing.

In high school I met friends who wanted to be rock stars. One played
guitar, another bass. "If you play drums, we can start a band," one of
them said. That band never materialized, but I got a teacher's phone
number and went home to persuade my parents.

They weren't enthusiastic. In the first place they didn't really consider
it an instrument, and secondly they really liked the harpsichord and the
guitar, both of which I still played. But I kept working on them, and
finally they said okay, as long as I bought my own equipment and paid half
the cost of lessons.

So I got a job. In a bakery, which rendered me allergic to doughnuts for
the next several years. Believe me, after you've battled yellowjackets for
that last maple danish and spent your Sunday mornings for a solid year
packing chocolate frosteds for well-dressed Methodists, you get a little
sick of pastry.

Within a few months I had bought myself a used Remo PTS kit. I still have
the cymbals, some rather nice Paiste 2002s, which I still like and use.
The kit, though, was upgraded inside of a year to a Remo Mastertouch,
which I still play. That kit's stood me well over the last several years.

When I was 17 I joined my first band. We were all girls and none of us
knew shit about being in a band; I had jammed with some friends of mine
but that was about it, and the other bandmembers had even less experience
than I did. I suspect that we sucked. S'all right, we had fun. We only
ever did one gig, the high school rock bash to raise money for the
woefully underfunded music department. Soon after that I graduated and
went away to college. Soon I lost touch with my old bandmates.

In college there was another band. We didn't quite suck, but we weren't
fantastic either. Even so, it was a valuable experience; I learned about
being in a band, and since all of my bandmates were at least 10 years
older, I learned about music that I'd never listened to in my high school
heavy metal days.

I started studying with a teacher who was a jazz and blues drummer. She
made me 'shed on the shuffle beat for a solid year, until I could do it
just right. Though I was still playing rock, and did a few semesters in
the orchestra (I had never played timpani before in my life, but a roll is
a roll is a roll), I learned a lot about playing musically from that
teacher. I think that was the time that I moved from just having a good
time to becoming a musician.

It's still a good time, but it's more than that, too.

Graduation and off I went to Seattle. Once I got acclimated (more or
less), I put out an ad. Got lots of phone calls; some were interesting and
some were INTERESTING. I auditioned in Olympia and listened to some stoner
in Tacoma tell me how cool chick drummers were.

Finally I hooked up with my present band. I must have looked like a losing
proposition; at the time I had no job, no car, didn't know the city or
anyone in it, and was living on the leftovers of the college fund my
parents had set up. Soon after that I got a job. The rest came later.

We've survived in our present lineup for almost three years, weathering
one breakup, one marriage, one psychopathic bitch, several questionable
gigs, at least three bar fights, unemployment, personal differences, two
recording sessions, too much beer, several birthdays, and the rock & roll
lifestyle in general. That makes us combat veterans.

Rimrunner
life is good

Joe Smerdon

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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In article <7daiu0$qck$1...@inf2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>, Ina
<i...@studbox.FckSpm.uni-stuttgart.de> writes

>Joe Smerdon <pla...@stoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> tried to learn guitar. I was shit. I wanted to HIT things, not slide
>>>> around like a girl or something. I can't get around how metallers whack
>>> ^^^^^
>> No offence intended to guitarists - at least I don't go around saying
>
>alright... you obviously still did not get it ;-) but never mind,
>I just wondered where/why/what you think girls slide around
>just curious... maybe I missed something in my school days?!
Oh crap - I know what you're on about now!

No, I was just trying to find something to say to imply guitarists were
sissies.

I couldn't begin to think what a girl might slide around on ;-)

joe
--
Joe Smerdon

Jesse C. Chang

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rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) writes:

>I just started classical guitar again, but I love drums. Besides, I have
>it on good authority that there's nothing sexier than a chick drummer.
>(Sooo, how come I have so much trouble getting laid?)

It's that creepy Goth music, I tell ya! Everybody knows Goth people don't
have sex - they just lay around brooding and suffering. :)


Jesse, who thought chick flute players were sexiest (har, har!)

Glenn Dowdy

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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Jesse C. Chang wrote in message ...

>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) writes:
>
>>I just started classical guitar again, but I love drums. Besides, I have
>>it on good authority that there's nothing sexier than a chick drummer.
>>(Sooo, how come I have so much trouble getting laid?)
>
>It's that creepy Goth music, I tell ya! Everybody knows Goth people don't
>have sex - they just lay around brooding and suffering. :)
>
I tried to come up with a response, Rim, but nothing sounded good; Jesse
outdid everything I could think of, anyway. The best: Guys are interested,
they just can't find you in the dark (brunette, black leather for those who
haven't met her).

>
>Jesse, who thought chick flute players were sexiest (har, har!)
>

Well, I only know three sexy women musicians, and the score is two
violinists to one drummer.

--
Glenn Dowdy


MegalDeth

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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>there's nothing sexier than a chick drummer.
>(Sooo, how come I have so much trouble getting laid?)

youre a chick how wants to get laid, im a guy who wants to get laid : )
_____________________________________________________________________
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Millions of people would do anything to be immortal, and millions of people
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Chris Milillo

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Rimrunner wrote:

> I just started classical guitar again, but I love drums. Besides, I have

> it on good authority that there's nothing sexier than a chick drummer.


> (Sooo, how come I have so much trouble getting laid?)

Your standards are prolly too high! :-) Plus..at the end of the gig when
everyone else is scammin', you're breaking down the damn kit! Been there,
still do that!

Chris,
Not even attempting a quote as witty as the ones Rim includes with EVERY post!
Good to have you back.

Jesse C. Chang

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"Glenn Dowdy" <glenn...@hp.com> writes:

>Well, I only know three sexy women musicians, and the score is two
>violinists to one drummer.

Heh, well, the two sexiest female musicians I've personally known have
both been flautists (though one also does gamelan). But violinist Lara
St. John gets my vote for sexiest female musician in the universe (and
I have seen her in recital...*swoon*).


Jesse

MegalDeth

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>how

that should be who

strat81

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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>>Well, I only know three sexy women musicians, and the score is two
>>violinists to one drummer.
>
>Heh, well, the two sexiest female musicians I've personally known have
>both been flautists (though one also does gamelan). But violinist Lara
>St. John gets my vote for sexiest female musician in the universe (and
>I have seen her in recital...*swoon*).
>
Spice Girls? I dunno if they're musicians but they put the wood in my
fire. And that Brittney Spears chick...drool. Umm, I'll be right
back, I gotta to the bathroom for a sec. ;-)

James Golding

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I've been playing guitar for 4 years.. but we needed a drummer and there
were better guitarists, so I gave it a go. And loved it!

Still enjoy playing guitar though.. and I still write loads :) Just ask
whoever US3 sampled.. "the drum is the most important instrument".

strat81 wrote in message <36f92522...@news.asan.com>...


>>>Tried guitar, too... but as soon as I hit a drum for the first time
>>>I was hooked. Unfortunately I was already 23 then but so what...
>>>I'm not the only late starter around here remembering the "oldie"
>>>thread some time last fall..

>>No offence intended to guitarists - at least I don't go around saying

Rimrunner

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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In article <drummerF...@netcom.com>,
Jesse C. Chang <dru...@netcom.com> wrote:

>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) writes:
>
>>I just started classical guitar again, but I love drums. Besides, I have
>>it on good authority that there's nothing sexier than a chick drummer.
>>(Sooo, how come I have so much trouble getting laid?)
>
>It's that creepy Goth music, I tell ya! Everybody knows Goth people don't
>have sex - they just lay around brooding and suffering. :)

Y'know, that explains a lot.

I went to a con last weekend (*audience groans in agony* -- this story's
short, I promise) and everyone I talked to was bitching about how hard a
time they were having hooking up with someone.

Now, I know from sci-fi conventions. It just ain't that difficult if you
have a pulse and clothes that fit reasonably well.

It could've been because every other person I met seemed to be stoned--I
swear the cops/paramedics/fire department were there every single night.

Rimrunner
we tried to book it but they wanted djs instead. pah.

Rimrunner

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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In article <36FC969D...@bestweb.net>,
Chris Milillo <drumsS...@bestweb.net> wrote:

>Rimrunner wrote:
>
>> I just started classical guitar again, but I love drums. Besides, I have
>> it on good authority that there's nothing sexier than a chick drummer.
>> (Sooo, how come I have so much trouble getting laid?)
>
>Your standards are prolly too high! :-)

You know, you might have something there--but it doesn't help when
everyone I meet seems to be a) a musician, b) underage, and/or c) too
drunk to...well, you know.

>Plus..at the end of the gig when
>everyone else is scammin', you're breaking down the damn kit! Been there,
>still do that!

*grin*

>Not even attempting a quote as witty as the ones Rim includes with EVERY post!
>Good to have you back.

Thanks, Chris.

While I'm here, I have a culpa to mea, or however you say it. Those of you
outside the U.S. who wanted CDs--I've lost your e-mails. So, if you could
e-mail me again and let me know what country you're in, I'll see how I can
set you up.

We might have an online vendor soon too, which would solve the problem.

Rimrunner
amazon doensn't work for packaging reasons, else we'd be there

Rimrunner

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In article <7dguaa$2fg$1...@ocean.cup.hp.com>,

Glenn Dowdy <glenn...@hp.com> wrote:
>Jesse C. Chang wrote in message ...
>>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) writes:
>>
>>>I just started classical guitar again, but I love drums. Besides, I have
>>>it on good authority that there's nothing sexier than a chick drummer.
>>>(Sooo, how come I have so much trouble getting laid?)
>>
>>It's that creepy Goth music, I tell ya! Everybody knows Goth people don't
>>have sex - they just lay around brooding and suffering. :)
>>
>I tried to come up with a response, Rim, but nothing sounded good; Jesse
>outdid everything I could think of, anyway. The best: Guys are interested,
>they just can't find you in the dark (brunette, black leather for those who
>haven't met her).

Glenn, I am *not* putting on pink.

I *do* have this glittery silver thing that makes me look like a walking
disco ball, though.

>>Jesse, who thought chick flute players were sexiest (har, har!)
>

>Well, I only know three sexy women musicians, and the score is two
>violinists to one drummer.

The drummer for the Lesbian Muff Divers is pretty sexy, which makes up for
the fact that their bass player looks sorta silly in that black tutu.
(When I met him recently he said he was sort of tired of it, but it had
become part of the band's Image, and everyone knows how difficult it is to
dislodge one of those.)

We're hoping to do some gigs with them. They don't sound much like us, but
their shows are fun.

Rimrunner
involving balloons, latex, and 'o fortuna'

Jesse C. Chang

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) writes:

>I went to a con last weekend (*audience groans in agony* -- this story's
>short, I promise) and everyone I talked to was bitching about how hard a
>time they were having hooking up with someone.

Come down to Hollywood; you'll probably have to beat them off with a
stick.

>Now, I know from sci-fi conventions. It just ain't that difficult if you
>have a pulse and clothes that fit reasonably well.

That's because they at least have women like Seven of Nine. Who do
the Goths have to look to? Comic book characters and the girl from
the Addams Family? No thank you. (Hey, you could start a trend here,
Rimrunner. :) )

Jesse, who doesn't have any stick-bruises. Honest.

Jesse C. Chang

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rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) writes:

>You know, you might have something there--but it doesn't help when
>everyone I meet seems to be a) a musician,

And everyone tells me being a musician is a _good_ thing! Hmm, maybe
that's what I'm doing wrong...


Jesse

Rimrunner

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In article <drummerF...@netcom.com>,
Jesse C. Chang <dru...@netcom.com> wrote:
>rim...@halcyon.com (Rimrunner) writes:
>
>>I went to a con last weekend (*audience groans in agony* -- this story's
>>short, I promise) and everyone I talked to was bitching about how hard a
>>time they were having hooking up with someone.
>
>Come down to Hollywood; you'll probably have to beat them off with a
>stick.

<wide-eyed innocent>
So THAT'S why the vendors were selling whips!
</wide-eyed innocent>

(Yes, I know what the whips are for, I have a friend who's a dominatrix)

>>Now, I know from sci-fi conventions. It just ain't that difficult if you
>>have a pulse and clothes that fit reasonably well.
>
>That's because they at least have women like Seven of Nine. Who do
>the Goths have to look to? Comic book characters and the girl from
>the Addams Family? No thank you. (Hey, you could start a trend here,
>Rimrunner. :) )

Have you *seen* Christina Ricci lately? Yowza.

>Jesse, who doesn't have any stick-bruises. Honest.

Heh. :)

Rimrunner
uh-oh, i think i'm late for a meeting

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