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Fastest Jumpship in the United States

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DEJackman

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Jul 27, 2003, 8:21:50 PM7/27/03
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I noticed on Skydive Las Vegas' website
(http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/reasons.html) that they claim to have "the
Fastest Climbing Jump Airplane in the Country, a Cessna Super-Turbine Caravan."
I was just curious what kind of upgrades that they did to it to allow it to
beat Mullins' King Air?

Winsor Naugler III

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Jul 27, 2003, 8:56:34 PM7/27/03
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"DEJackman" <deja...@aol.com> wrote in message
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JATO


jazz

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Jul 27, 2003, 11:10:05 PM7/27/03
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"DEJackman" <deja...@aol.com> wrote in message
I noticed on Skydive Las Vegas' website
(http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/reasons.html) that they claim to have "the
Fastest Climbing Jump Airplane in the Country, a Cessna Super-Turbine
Caravan." I was just curious what kind of upgrades that they did to it to
allow it to beat Mullins' King Air?
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"Winsor Naugler III" <dog...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:bg1s74>
> JATO

Yeah but where did he mount it...and don't those things only have enough
fuel for 30 seconds or so? The twins we used to mount on C-130 for short
takeoffs burned pretty quickly...how did they handle the other 12000 feet?


Rev Jim

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Jul 27, 2003, 11:52:20 PM7/27/03
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"Winsor Naugler III" <dog...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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LMAO!

Good one Winsor! Looking forward to seeing you in a few days. Dig out a PC
for me. It's time.

Rev Jim


Tom B

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Jul 28, 2003, 1:46:44 AM7/28/03
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"DEJackman" <deja...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Aircraft climb faster if you seek USPA support in a lawsuit, then don't
allow licensed, experienced USPA skydivers in them.

Tom B


Tom B

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Jul 28, 2003, 1:48:30 AM7/28/03
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"jazz" <jamesc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Check the thrust vs the aircraft weight. It might get you there, even if
sans wings. :)


Tom B


jazz

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Jul 28, 2003, 5:20:40 AM7/28/03
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Hey, check out the reply from Michael Hawkes...I guess the press about his
is true, no?

----
Short for respectfully, Jamie. Hey, those were real questions.... but I
guess I got my answer.
----- Original Message -----
From: SkyDiveLasVegas.com 800-U-SKYDIV
To: Jamie Carsten
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Web Information?


what does r/j stand for =real jerk ?


Michael Hawkes, Pres,
A SkyDive Las Vegas Inc.
http://www.SkyDiveLasVegas.com
1401 Airport Rd. #4
Boulder City Airport
Boulder City, NV. 89005
702-SKY-DIVE (759-3483)
800-U-SKYDIV (875-9348)
702-293-5684 Fax
e-mail : SkyD...@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Carsten
To: SkyD...@earthlink.net
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:13 PM
Subject: Web Information?


Hey guys...just curious, how quickly does your Caravan get to 15,000
anyway?

BTW, your info about the Army and the AF Special forces training only at
SLV is a bit off, we do quite a bit in Yuma, and a few classified locations
as well... Been there and done that.

r/J

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SkydiveMaine

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Jul 28, 2003, 7:13:39 AM7/28/03
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"Tom B" <d16...@aol.com> wrote in message news:<8N2Va.13847$hc....@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...

What kind of DZ is this? No fun jumpers?
http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/experienced_jumpers.html

Tom B

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Jul 28, 2003, 3:23:59 PM7/28/03
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"SkydiveMaine" <skydiv...@dropzone.com> wrote in message
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Exactly.


jazz

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Jul 28, 2003, 5:12:20 PM7/28/03
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> > Tom B
> >
> > What kind of DZ is this? No fun jumpers?
> > http://www.skydivelasvegas.com/experienced_jumpers.html
>
It isn't a DZ, it's a tandem factory. There is a huge difference.


BVAskydive

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Jul 28, 2003, 5:14:13 PM7/28/03
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If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Think about it, who's the manager at
Skydive Las Vegas? If I remember correctly, it's Michael Hawkes. He has quite a
history, and most of it's not good.

Some planes (only twin turbines) will come close to Mike Mullins King Air, but
I doubt any will ever beat him in my lifetime. The Boeing 727 might compare
favorably in climb ratio, but it takes too long to set up for jump run, and the
ride back down. Mike Mullins' 15 minute turn-around times to 15,000 feet can't
be beat anywhere!

Blue Skies
Billy

Mike Mullins

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Jul 28, 2003, 7:48:23 PM7/28/03
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This claim is simply not true by any stretch of the imagination. My King Air is
much faster and I would be happy to race for pink slips any time Skydive Las Vegas
chooses.
Mike Mullins

LORD OF THE SKY

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Jul 28, 2003, 8:28:22 PM7/28/03
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"Mike Mullins" <michael...@skydivekingair.com> wrote in message
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> This claim is simply not true by any stretch of the imagination. My King
Air is
> much faster and I would be happy to race for pink slips any time Skydive
Las Vegas
> chooses.
> Mike Mullins

"MOST EXCELLENT ENTERTAINMENT"!!!!!
Mr. Hawkes, are you going to take the challenge or take the claim off
your website?

"Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY

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JimBo

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Jul 28, 2003, 9:28:53 PM7/28/03
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>Subject: Re: Fastest Jumpship in the United States
>From: Mike Mullins michael...@skydivekingair.com

>
>This claim is simply not true by any stretch of the imagination. My King Air
>is
>much faster and I would be happy to race for pink slips any time Skydive Las
>Vegas
>chooses.
>Mike Mullins

posted and mailed to M Hawkes

Jim D-10154
funjumper and hoe.
Man small... why fall ? Skies call... thats all.

SkydiverRick

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Jul 28, 2003, 10:55:51 PM7/28/03
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Mike Mullins wrote:
> This claim is simply not true by any stretch of the imagination. My
> King Air is much faster and I would be happy to race for pink slips
> any time Skydive Las Vegas chooses.
> Mike Mullins

My money is on Mike.

Skydive4u2

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Jul 29, 2003, 1:12:56 AM7/29/03
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Way to go Mike. Go get'em. Tell them to put up or shut up.
Fast Eddie

Cliff Heller

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Jul 29, 2003, 2:33:18 PM7/29/03
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"Tom B" <d16...@aol.com> writes:

They also might only climb to 10 grand. Tandems don't usually notice,
and they think wow.. 10 THOUSAND feet!

They also might be lying.


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Gary Dausch

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Jul 29, 2003, 2:39:47 PM7/29/03
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skydi...@aol.com (Skydive4u2) wrote in message news:<20030729011256...@mb-m14.aol.com>...

> Way to go Mike. Go get'em. Tell them to put up or shut up.
> Fast Eddie


I don't claim to be the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But here
are some numbers that popped into my head. After all, he already has
roughly a 2000 foot headstart as the MSL of Las Vegas is listed as
2000'. This means that his students are really getting a 15,000msl
exit but merely a 13,000 foot skydive. Unless, and this is where the
brightest bulb theory comes in. If his students really are exiting at
15,000 feet and falling at 120 mph for 60 seconds (10,000 feet +-)as
he claims then that means they are beginning the deployment sequence
at 5,000 feet or below. Or are the really beginning the deployment
sequence at a real altitude of 3000 feet msl. Now if they really are
getting a 10,000 foot freefall as the numbers would suggest, then are
they really jumping from 17,000, and I guess that would open up
another can of worms having to deal with supplying oxygen.. It sounds
to me like Mr. Hawkes used to work for the National Enquirer as their
facts are about as accurate..

I expect criticism and clarification on my numbers but help me out and
show me where my math went wrong.

Gary Dausch
D???? as soon as the paperwork comes back

Rose Goetsch

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Jul 29, 2003, 4:58:05 PM7/29/03
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Skydivers think in AGL -which is why your altimeter reads zero on the
ground at the airport you are jumping at.

Aircraft/pilots think in MSL -which is why the aircraft altimeter is set
to the field elevation or the altimeter setting for the departure
airport and and changed in flight when flying cross country.

If you are jumping at a field that is at 1000' MSL and your pilot gives
you 13,500 jump altitude- when your altimeter says 13,500 the pilots
altimeter reads 14,500.


I assume if I have this wrong- I'll hear about it...

Jake

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Aug 3, 2003, 2:49:37 AM8/3/03
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I would really like to jump from this fast plane sometime. Which DZ does
this SuperKingAir fly?

"Mike Mullins" <michael...@skydivekingair.com> wrote in message
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TxAirDvr

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Aug 3, 2003, 2:23:23 PM8/3/03
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> My money is on Mike.

yep.

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