Need a compression Crash Course
Cheesefood
Right now I'm using AI 9.0.2 for some page layout. Before you flame on, I'm doing this to show my boss how we could do cool multi-page stuff with InDesign that would look much better than with PM.
So, that aside. If I'm using a mixture of JPEG's, line art, text and drop-shadows, what are my best settings to create a good looking PDF with minimal size (must be put on the web).
I'm using JPEG compression on my bitmaps and grayscales, but I know very little about CCIT, ZIP and Run Length. I've read the help file, but it's still a bit over my head. Can anyone dumb it down?
Ian A. Wright
If you're trying to " ... show my boss how we could do cool multi-page stuff with InDesign ..." why not use the InDesign trial download? You will NEVER see InDesign's typographic capability by working in current or older versions of Illustrator. You will NEVER see InDesign's capability for creating TOCs, tables, indexes, etc. IMHO you're wasting your time.
And please change your login as requested previously. Thanks.
Cheesefood
As for "why not use InDesign", I've downloaded the trial and gave him a copy. It's simply a matter of money and necessity. We just purchased a color laser printer, I don't think our prez. is going to be happy if we start requesting all new software so soon.
As for the TOC, tables, indexes, etc. We don't use them. Our brochures are a two sided page with text and pictures. We're not a design firm, we're a financial corporation with a marketing department.
Ian A. Wright
You can do all you need with Illustrator 10 -- except for the typography. And that you cannot demonstrate with Illustrator at all.
I requested it -- as a Forum Host I would like to keep a "business-like" atmosphere here. In over 15 years of doing on-line support I've seen too often the results of childish anonymity.
But it is your choice. And it's my choice not to respond further.
Phosphor
You're just a moderator, not god, not even god-like.
Get over yourself.
Cheesefood has asked a perfectly legitimate question here and has done so gracefully. Heck, he even spells well.
I see no need for him to change his login.
I see a need for you to get the burrs out of your BVDs.
Cheesefood
There's plenty of monnikers in the forums.
So, as a Forum Host, you'd rather this conversation go off-topic than offer the help I requested?
No, I can't go out and buy new software just because it's available. In the future, maybe. Your responses don't offer help to my problem today. You've wasted my time and anyone else who will ever encounter the same problem.
Cheesefood
Alexander Kogan.
err... sorry for interrupting, but:
...You're just a moderator, not god, not even god-like.
...you know... there're things that a professional and god have in common. For example: both can do things the others can not. One of such things is responding questions in this forum. Both god and professionals deserve at least some respect. Words of professionals cost money, here - they are for free. If someone doesn't like how they sound, well, the best he/she can do is to thank for bothering to reply and continue searching for the answers... If you would pardon me.
Cheesefood has asked a perfectly legitimate question here and has done
so gracefully. Heck, he even spells well.
...and he was treated perfectly well, and in a perfectly legitimate and rather polite way was asked to follow the Forum's protocol.
I see no need for him to change his login.
...and you are not a Forum Host... I guess, you may vote en contra the forum's protocol in the Feedback part. If there're enough people saying the same thing, it may well be changed. Until then, let us follow it, please.
Cheesefood,
first of all, I'm sorry cause I don't know much about JPGEg compression. Now, to the point.
So, as a Forum Host, you'd rather this conversation go off-topic than
offer the help I requested?
err... Ian pointed out some inconsistances in what you're saying, and he might be right, think of it. If you saw someone hammering a bolt in a wall, wouldn't you offer him a screwdriver? :)
Phosphor
How do you know that Cheesefood and Phosphor are not our legal names? Real people have legally adopted stranger names than that. How do you know that we don't also post, from different locales, using our "real" names?
My point is, there are more important things to worry about.
If one comports themselves in a civil, intelligent manner, the name they choose is absolutely irrelevant.
Cheesefood
err... Ian pointed out some inconsistances in what you're saying, and
he might be right, think of it. If you saw someone hammering a bolt in
a wall, wouldn't you offer him a screwdriver? :)
If I took my car to get an oil change, I wouldn't expect the mechanic to tell me to buy a new car.
Fact is, AI does a perfectly good job of one-page layouts. It has a column text tool, it can import and link bitmapped files, and it can export bitmapped/vector graphics. Sure, there's a better tool out there, but I don't have that option.
So what if my last name is Cheesefood? I'm John J. Cheesefood.
It's not "following forum." It's someone with one inch of power trying to stretch it a mile. What the heck does a name matter anyway? Is he purposely providing bunk feedback because I'm not following his little rules? It's not a game. There are umpteen forums in this place, and umpteen+1 people using monnikers.
I think Ian is a stupid name. Please change it and I'll respect you.
Pat Dunlavey
Phosphor
Do you not understand how silly it is, that the issue regarding what name one chooses isn't worth even bringing up? It's a complete non-issue, and I'd be hard-pressed to find any reason to yowl about anyone's choice unless the nickname was patently offensive. Bodily functions, George Carlin's "7 words", puppy killing references, etc...things of that nature.
The only reason it's become an issue is because Ian預nd by assentive nodding of heads, others揺ave made it so.
Accept that not everyone shares your sensibilities about nickname choice, and move on. To do otherwise will only raise your blood pressure, and egg on guys like me.
Cheesefood
To participate in the discussions you will have to go through a one-time
registration process and then log on whenever you want to visit the forums.
Click on the link to register. You will be asked to supply a User Name,
a password, and a valid email address. The User Name is the name people
will see next to your messages in the forum.
(bolds and italics added for emphasis.)
Where does it say you must use your real name?
Alexander Kogan.
Cheesefood
I'm sure I speak for many - I'm getting a little tired of this.
No one's forcing you to read it.
Phosphor's last comment says it all. Unfortunately neither he nor Cheesefood
have done so.
I comported myself as civil as one can comport themself.
Here's my original message again:
Hey gang...
Where in there was I rude, inappropriate or not comporting myself in a polite manner? I gave a nice greeting and explained that I've searched other areas and was not able to find the solution. Doesn't that meet the requirements?
Instead of admitting he doesn't know, Ian has chosen to cause a problem. This isn't the first time he's done so either. If he doesn't know the program, that's fine. My boss doesn't know it. But Ian shouldn't scold me for using a screen name instead of simply admitting he doesn't know, or better yet just not saying anything.
ScaryPhosphor
I chew up lightweights just to clear my breath of rusty nails and razor blades.
Gene Trujillo
Ian B. Wrong
Not that it effects me in any way.
Forums Operations
Cheesefood
Nice try, just because someone agrees with me, you're trying to say we're one in the same. Didn't work. Try again.
Rich Beardsley
John Kallios
Please kill this topic and set to read only. It is serving no purpose.
Cheesefood,
Repost your topic question if you still want a discussion on it after this post is set to read only.
Let all go on our merry way.
Thank you,
John
Cheesefood
There's no longer any point to continue.