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Matt Kelley

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Sep 12, 2001, 1:08:34 AM9/12/01
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In response to what people have written here about the WTC, I would like to
echo the most profound statement I have ever known a president to say:

"...This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth,
frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in
our country today. This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will
revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that
THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO FEAR IS FEAR ITSELF-nameless, unreasoning,
unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into
advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness
and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people
themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again
give that support to leadership in these critical days...."
-Franklin D. Roosevelt, First Inaugural Address

Although this speech was given March 4, 1933, a time when the U.S. was
dealing with the depression, these words can still ring true today with how
the people of the United States should act. It is my lowly opinion that
those who commit terrorist acts do it to strike fear into their victims.

I live in the Cincinnati, OH area--malls were closed, soccer practices
cancelled, school events postponed. The lines at gas stations were
astounding. I heard people saying that the world was going to come to an
end...and why? Because someone decided do such an act? With some these
terrorists succeeded in striking fear into their hearts. I am saddened by
what happened, but we must continue to function, we must continue to move on
with our daily lives while at the same time dealing appropriately with what
has happened.

The government continues to operate -- the government has procedures it
takes to ensure that everything functions.

There is not going to be a "gas freeze" as I've heard so many people gossip
about.

The news today was commenting on how odd it is to see military jets flying
around New York -- almost as if they were afraid a military state was to
develop. But I have to ask, isn't the reason we have troops and
fighters...to defend citizens on such an act?

People need to stop and think...people need to be rational. People need to
realize that terrorist acts can happen at anytime, anywhere, and must always
be prepared to deal with such a terrible act.

I know that the American people will rally and rise about such an act. I
hope people put aside their, what seem to be at this time, petty beliefs and
rally behind one another and the President, whether you approve of him or
not.

I am scheduled to leave for Glasgow on Thursday to attend university there.
If the airlines are up and running and the flight is not cancelled, I will
leave Thursday.

Fear ain't keepin' me down.

Your novice piper,
Matt


Michael Forkan

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Sep 12, 2001, 2:33:02 AM9/12/01
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The only thing I have to say was best said in a song....

?Artist/Band Lee Greenwood Song title Proud To Be An American Album
Submitted by Jay
White Lyrics
If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I''d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.

I''d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
''Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can''t take that away.

And I''m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I''m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
''Cause there ain''t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea.

From Detroit down to Huston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there's pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.

That I''m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I''m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
''Cause there ain''t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

And I''m proud to be and American,
where at least I know I''m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
''Cause there ain''t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.


Mike
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MrRobotTow

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Sep 12, 2001, 5:59:59 AM9/12/01
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>I live in the Cincinnati, OH area--malls were closed, soccer practices
>cancelled, school events postponed. The lines at gas stations were
>astounding. I heard people saying that the world was going to come to an
>end...and why? Because someone decided do such an act? With some these
>terrorists succeeded in striking fear into their hearts. I am saddened by
>what happened, but we must continue to function, we must continue to move on
>with our daily lives while at the same time dealing appropriately with what
>has happened.<snip>

This idiotic panic (talk of the end of the world, gas shortages, school and
mall closings for no reason)
is exactly what the terrorists want, and unfortuneately it only takes one
pea-brain to start stupid rumors like this.
Don't fall into their trap, carry on as normal.


>People need to stop and think...people need to be rational. People need to
>realize that terrorist acts can happen at anytime, anywhere, and must always
>be prepared to deal with such a terrible act.

Yep. It is unfortunately our reality now, and it won't be getting any better in
the near future.

>I know that the American people will rally and rise about such an act. I
>hope people put aside their, what seem to be at this time, petty beliefs and
>rally behind one another and the President, whether you approve of him or
>not.

APPROVE OF HIM OR NOT????? HE IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THIS!!!! Did you see what the
middle east said about him? They claim these attacks are in response to Bush's
new policys of siding with Israel. After we bomb the terrorists, we should bomb
that pathetic excuse for a man too, or at least give his location to every
terrorist group we can find, and let them take him out. Just what we need in
the white house, a coked-up dopehead running the country.

>I am scheduled to leave for Glasgow on Thursday to attend university there.
>If the airlines are up and running and the flight is not cancelled, I will
>leave Thursday.
>
>Fear ain't keepin' me down.

Let's hope the rest of america will take your que.

Bill
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized
that the Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked Him to forgive
me.
http://hometown.aol.com/mrrobottow/

Lloyd Bogart

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Sep 12, 2001, 9:16:15 AM9/12/01
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In article <20010912055959...@mb-fi.aol.com>,
mrrob...@aol.com (MrRobotTow) wrote:

[snip]


> APPROVE OF HIM OR NOT????? HE IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THIS!!!! Did you see
what the
> middle east said about him? They claim these attacks are in response to Bush's
> new policys of siding with Israel. After we bomb the terrorists, we
should bomb
> that pathetic excuse for a man too, or at least give his location to every
> terrorist group we can find, and let them take him out. Just what we need in
> the white house, a coked-up dopehead running the country.

[snip]

How is this different than the so-called "reasoning" of those
who planned the tragedy and hijacked the planes?

(No, Bill, it's a rhetorical question. We already know the answer.)

Say "hi" to the Secret Service for me.


Lloyd
*****

MrRobotTow

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Sep 12, 2001, 10:46:41 AM9/12/01
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>How is this different than the so-called "reasoning" of those
>who planned the tragedy and hijacked the planes?
>
>(No, Bill, it's a rhetorical question. We already know the answer.)

I didn't say it was MY reasoning, it was stated FROM THE MIDDLE EAST that they
said they did this because of Bush's new policys. This guy has screwed up every
thing he has done so far, and to hear someone say we should support him is
outrageous!

Matt Kelley

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Sep 12, 2001, 11:13:54 AM9/12/01
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Oh come on. These same countries haven't liked the policies of the United
States regarding places like Israel and Palestine for a long time. Acting
like it was George Bush's fault is yet another thing these people want you
to believe! An attack like this was inevitable.

Support a way to effectivly solve the problem.

Matt


R. G. Thompson

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Sep 12, 2001, 11:59:32 AM9/12/01
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"MrRobotTow" <mrrob...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010912055959...@mb-fi.aol.com...

--
<snip>


> the white house, a coked-up dopehead running the country.
>

Aren't you referring to the previous occupant of the White House?
--
Ray
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and
likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and
buy one. - Luke 22:36 KJV


Lloyd Bogart

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Sep 12, 2001, 12:23:13 PM9/12/01
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In article <20010912055959...@mb-fi.aol.com>,
mrrob...@aol.com (MrRobotTow) wrote:

[snip]


> After we bomb the terrorists, we should bomb
> that pathetic excuse for a man too, or at least give his location to every
> terrorist group we can find, and let them take him out. Just what we need in
> the white house, a coked-up dopehead running the country.

[snip]


In article <20010912104641...@mb-md.aol.com>,
mrrob...@aol.com (MrRobotTow) wrote:

> I didn't say it was MY reasoning, it was stated FROM THE MIDDLE EAST
> that they said they did this because of Bush's new policys. This guy
> has screwed up every thing he has done so far, and to hear someone
> say we should support him is outrageous!


Let me get this straight: you wish us to believe that
someone "FROM THE MIDDLE EAST" made that statement (above)
in your original message?

And it isn't YOUR reasoning?

I ask again: how is YOUR reasoning different than those
who perpetrated yesterday's tragedy? Again, I think we
all know the answer -- don't bother.

Lloyd
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pkspence

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Sep 12, 2001, 6:48:59 PM9/12/01
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If you mean the one that lied to the American people, not once but
*several* times, the one that gave us NAFTA, the one that brought our
military preparedness to an all-time-low, that's the one, alright!

"R. G. Thompson" <cad...@desertlinc.com> wrote in message news:<3b9f8...@news.greatbasin.net>...

Royce Lerwick

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Sep 12, 2001, 7:06:05 PM9/12/01
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:16:15 GMT, bog...@centurytel.net (Lloyd Bogart)
wrote:

Actually, Bush has condemned Israel repeatedly, but certain
ultra-leftists here refuse to actually hear or see. Let's just take
Bill out along with the Terrorists, in the new policy of counting
anyone who supports terrorists and their positions along with the
terrorists themselves. Bill is saying we had it coming. I think Bill
has it coming. While we're cleaning up terrorists, let's just clean up
our own little NG terrorists while we're at it.

Royce

www.royceworld.com
http://www.royceworld.com:9000/
http://www.haxxed.com/~royce/

Try one. If lucky, you get in.

Royce Lerwick

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Sep 12, 2001, 7:11:33 PM9/12/01
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What really pisses of the ultra-Liberals and Fasco-Democrats is that
HW has actually pulled off nearly everything he set out to do and they
can't figure out how he's getting away with it for being the loser
they keep making him out to be. They actually rooting for HW to fail
really bad in this crisis, actually eagerly waiting to use this
against him--even seconds into it we had Liberal newscasters claiming
he was hiding out and running away etc. Notice they muzzled Paul
Wellstone and the other Democrat Congressional hand-wringers and I
don't think you're going to hear a pip from them. Only the Loonie Left
like BD are so narrowly-focused on personal ideology to not know when
to shut the hell up about these simpering personal biases.

Luramao

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Sep 12, 2001, 6:53:24 PM9/12/01
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Interestingly enough, a lot of people have commented tha the last time
we had MAJOR problems with the Arabs/Middle East, was when another
"Bush" was in the White House. Just coincidence?

Also, I was thinking yesterday, of all the recent Presidents, this one
inspires the Least confidence in me. The man has the intelligence of a
cretin and the leadership abilities of "Dolly" (you know, the clone).

Hey, it Would be nice to have another Franklin Roosevelt in office ("All
we have to fear is fear itself....") Instead, when I listened in on
our Pres this morning, all I heard was him announcing that he was going
to recommend to the Congress that we allocate more money to some federal
agencies...... Um...? Actually, Tony Blair (UK) had much more to
say and much more memorable comments than anything Bush has managed to
say about this.

Bush just doesnt inspire any kind of confidence in me; he looks, acts,
and talks like a man who is totally overwhelmed and doesnt know what to
do......

MrRobotTow

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Sep 12, 2001, 10:21:32 PM9/12/01
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>Aren't you referring to the previous occupant of the White House?

You mean Bill Clinton, the hero of the millenium? No, I meant that dope head
(who didn't inhale when he snorted it) George Bush.

MrRobotTow

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Sep 12, 2001, 10:25:28 PM9/12/01
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>If you mean the one that lied to the American people, not once but
>*several* times,

Yeah, and he was the first polotician to ever do that, right? They ALL lie,
cheat and steal (except B.C. his only weakness was he had sex with fat ugly
girls with big mouths.)

MrRobotTow

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Sep 12, 2001, 10:34:51 PM9/12/01
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>Interestingly enough, a lot of people have commented tha the last time
>we had MAJOR problems with the Arabs/Middle East, was when another
>"Bush" was in the White House. Just coincidence?
>

No, the Bush's dimwitted policys are the reason the Arabs are pissed. That is
why I said this is all Bushs fault, George Bush is destroying not only our
country, economy, and now confidence, but now is pissing off half the free and
not-so-free worlds.

>Also, I was thinking yesterday, of all the recent Presidents, this one
>inspires the Least confidence in me. The man has the intelligence of a
>cretin and the leadership abilities of "Dolly" (you know, the clone).

Amen! But I saw that the first time I saw him, why didn't the rest of america?

>Instead, when I listened in on
>our Pres this morning, all I heard was him announcing that he was going
>to recommend to the Congress that we allocate more money to some federal
>agencies...... Um...? Actually, Tony Blair (UK) had much more to
>say and much more memorable comments than anything Bush has managed to
>say about this.>>

Because he was seperated from his speech writers. Ever hear the man try to
speak without a script in front of him? He's a babbling idiot.

>
>Bush just doesnt inspire any kind of confidence in me; he looks, acts,
>and talks like a man who is totally overwhelmed and doesnt know what to
>do......

Very good description.

MrRobotTow

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Sep 12, 2001, 10:37:40 PM9/12/01
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>Let me get this straight: you wish us to believe that
>someone "FROM THE MIDDLE EAST" made that statement (above)
>in your original message?

It was on ABC news this morning. They said the bombing was inevitable because
of Bush siding with Isreal.


>Again, I think we
>all know the answer -- don't bother.

Arsehole.

Lloyd Bogart

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Sep 12, 2001, 11:10:08 PM9/12/01
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I wrote:
> >Let me get this straight: you wish us to believe that
> >someone "FROM THE MIDDLE EAST" made that statement [now below]
> >in your original message?

In article <20010912223740...@mb-mv.aol.com>,
mrrob...@aol.com (MrRobotTow) wrote:

> It was on ABC news this morning. They said the bombing was inevitable
> because of Bush siding with Isreal.

Nah, Bill, I wasn't talking about *that* statement, I was bringing your
attention to *this* one:

In article <20010912055959...@mb-fi.aol.com>,
mrrob...@aol.com (MrRobotTow) wrote:
[snip]
> After we bomb the terrorists, we should bomb
> that pathetic excuse for a man too, or at least give his location to every
> terrorist group we can find, and let them take him out. Just what we need in
> the white house, a coked-up dopehead running the country.

[snip]

in which YOU, on the day after perhaps the worst tragedy in U.S. history,
find it helpful to advocate, in a public newsgroup, that "we" or "terrorists"
should be encouraged to do *what* to President Bush? If your name isn't
on their list, someone isn't doing his/her job.

Bye,

Lloyd
*****

Royce Lerwick

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Sep 13, 2001, 12:21:02 AM9/13/01
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:53:24 -0400 (EDT), lur...@webtv.net (Luramao)
wrote:

>Bush just doesnt inspire any kind of confidence in me; he looks, acts,
>and talks like a man who is totally overwhelmed and doesnt know what to
>do......

And the choice you had was that or a mollycoddled Frat Boy who's done
nothing his entire life but be groomed by daddy to be president, a big
hulking dork who talks like he's constipated and would be standing
around wringing his hands all week with Paul Wellstone.

Luramao

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Sep 13, 2001, 3:55:49 AM9/13/01
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Well I didnt vote for either one of them, Royce!

Like I said, where's FDR? (Hey, I'd even take Tony Blair at this
point!)

Guess I'm glad at least Colin Powell is there somewhere - at leasts he
seems 'competent'.

Lura
.........................................................................

Re: The Only Thing

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From: pmle...@mn.mediaone.net (Royce Lerwick)

Peter Walker

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Sep 13, 2001, 6:02:00 AM9/13/01
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In article <5292-3BA...@storefull-296.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Luramao <lur...@webtv.net> wrote:

>Like I said, where's FDR? (Hey, I'd even take Tony Blair at this
>point!)
>
>Guess I'm glad at least Colin Powell is there somewhere - at leasts he
>seems 'competent'.

Except, of course, Powell is the pussy who kept us from finishing the
Gulf War, from utterly destroying the Iraqi Republican Guard (the
backbone of Saddam Hussein's power), because he was afraid how the
carnage on the "Highway of Death" would play in the press.

Not the right man for the job then or now.

We need Stormin' Norman back.

--
Peter Wykoff Walker II http://spacsun.rice.edu/~pww
Computational Physics, Inc. / Naval Research Laboratory
--------- QUI NOS RODUNT CONFUNDANTUR ET CUM IUSTIS NON SCRIBANTUR ---------

MrRobotTow

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Sep 13, 2001, 7:15:33 AM9/13/01
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>And the choice you had was that or a mollycoddled Frat Boy who's done
>nothing his entire life but be groomed by daddy to be president, a big
>hulking dork who talks like he's constipated and would be standing
>around wringing his hands all week with Paul Wellstone.

That's right, and a guy who had 8 years of learning how to run the economy, and
who would have carried on the same way (minus getting head in the whitehouse)
that great american hero Bill Clinton did.
Are you trying to say Gore is less "likeable" than Bush? It's not a personality
contest, and I don't care if Gore looks and acts like a guy with a cucumber
stuck in his rear end, he would still be doing a FAR better job than this dope
is.

MrRobotTow

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Sep 13, 2001, 7:17:27 AM9/13/01
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>Except, of course, Powell is the pussy who kept us from finishing the
>Gulf War,

WHAT? Are you insane? It was another GB that stopped the war, he even went on
TV and said it was his decision to stop there, and that he'd made it. He was
then promptly NOT re-elected.

MrRobotTow

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Sep 13, 2001, 7:34:15 AM9/13/01
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>in which YOU, on the day after perhaps the worst tragedy in U.S. history,
>find it helpful to advocate, in a public newsgroup, that "we" or "terrorists"
>should be encouraged to do *what* to President Bush? >

If you knew how to read you would see I said "WE should drop one on him, or let
the terrorists know where he is so they can do it."
You have a problem with that? TS! The man is coked-up dope head, with no
commmon sense, no personality, no guts, and is utterly overwhelmed by the job
he has been given. He has already destroyed our economy, and now has his sites
set on ending the world. A smart bomb or a bullett would solve americas
problem.
Now go call your "secret service" because this is america, where I have the
right to say that. I did not threaten him, I only said he should be shot. That
is called an "opinion."


>Bye,

You keep saying this, but you seem to reply to every post I make on the
subject.

MrRobotTow

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Sep 13, 2001, 7:48:41 AM9/13/01
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>>Except, of course, Powell is the pussy who kept us from finishing the
>>Gulf War,

Bush (the old moron, not the young one) said REPEATEDLY that it was his
decision, his alone, and that he took full responsibilty for it (and he did
when Nov rolled around) so the only part Powell had in it was as an advisor,
along with dozens of other advisors.

Luramao

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Sep 13, 2001, 7:59:12 AM9/13/01
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We need Stormin Norman? Yes, I'd take him too! But, actually,
perhaps who we NEED is Harry S. Truman. A man who is able to see what
needs to be done, and then, however loathsome the task may be, does what
has to be done.

Yes, perhaps if we had Finished the job in Iraq, we wouldnt still be
dealing with this crap. (and see my other post re "motvations"!)

MrRobotTow

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Sep 13, 2001, 8:52:39 AM9/13/01
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>But, actually,
>perhaps who we NEED is Harry S. Truman. A man who is able to see what
>needs to be done, and then, however loathsome the task may be, does what
>has to be done.

Where's he buried? I have a shovel...

>Yes, perhaps if we had Finished the job in Iraq, we wouldnt still be
>dealing with this crap.

DAMN STRAIGHT! Let's see now, who do we have to blame for NOT finishing off
Iraq as we the people were in favor of? Oh yes, GEORGE BUSH again... Hmm, I see
a pattern developing here.

Tim Sullivan

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Sep 13, 2001, 8:57:03 AM9/13/01
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"MrRobotTow" <mrrob...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010913085239...@mb-md.aol.com...

> >But, actually,
> >perhaps who we NEED is Harry S. Truman. A man who is able to see what
> >needs to be done, and then, however loathsome the task may be, does what
> >has to be done.
>
> Where's he buried? I have a shovel...
>
> >Yes, perhaps if we had Finished the job in Iraq, we wouldnt still be
> >dealing with this crap.
>
> DAMN STRAIGHT! Let's see now, who do we have to blame for NOT finishing
off
> Iraq as we the people were in favor of? Oh yes, GEORGE BUSH again... Hmm,
I see
> a pattern developing here.

Me too. Exactly how hard *did* you hit you hit your head while under
Clinton's desk?


Who?

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Sep 13, 2001, 9:06:31 AM9/13/01
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"Tim Sullivan" <shen...@REMOVEflash.net> wrote in message
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> Me too. Exactly how hard *did* you hit you hit your head while under
> Clinton's desk?
>
>
LOL! Thanks Tim, that's the first real good laugh I've had in a few days.


Chris Hamilton

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Sep 13, 2001, 9:22:34 AM9/13/01
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:57:03 GMT, "Tim Sullivan"
<shen...@REMOVEflash.net> wrote:

> Me too. Exactly how hard *did* you hit you hit your head while under
>Clinton's desk?

Quote of the year, Tim!

I'm neither Democratic nor Republican ... quite apolitical actually
... but the key thing is to support our leader at a time like this,
regardless of party affiliation. Numpties who would make threats and
declare GWB's incompetence and complicity have no clue in the real
world.

Chris
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Christopher Hamilton -- ToneCzar Inc.
ch...@toneczar.com -- www.toneczar.com

Who?

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Sep 13, 2001, 10:07:07 AM9/13/01
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Anybody who WOULD support him is an ignorant numpty, whose wandering around
with blinders on thinking it's not his fault, when the perps have clearly
stated it is.
As far as your other post about how he's far from a pansie, I wouldn't want
to piss off a gorilla, but I bet I can out-think one (FO! ahead of time, ok?
before anyone says it.) beat it at cards, drive a lot better, write my
name.
Check my website to see the truth on GB.
"Chris Hamilton" <tone...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:5mc1qtcadg67t99hl...@4ax.com...

Who?

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Sep 13, 2001, 10:22:18 AM9/13/01
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"Who?" <vze2...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Check my website to see the truth on GB.

Ignore that for now, I can't access it just now to change it.


Royce Lerwick

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Sep 13, 2001, 6:21:08 PM9/13/01
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:55:49 -0400 (EDT), lur...@webtv.net (Luramao)
wrote:

>Well I didnt vote for either one of them, Royce!


>
>Like I said, where's FDR? (Hey, I'd even take Tony Blair at this
>point!)
>
>Guess I'm glad at least Colin Powell is there somewhere - at leasts he
>seems 'competent'.
>
>Lura
>

Colon Powell should have run. In any case, it's a toss up and we have
what we have and we really don't even know what we have yet, so now is
not the time to start writing off GW or anyone else, because the big
picture is, it's a national package and there is more than enough
savvy around to handle this or any other crisis in the US.

Royce Lerwick

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Sep 13, 2001, 6:29:55 PM9/13/01
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:02:00 -0400, Peter Walker <p...@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <5292-3BA...@storefull-296.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
>Luramao <lur...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>>Like I said, where's FDR? (Hey, I'd even take Tony Blair at this
>>point!)
>>
>>Guess I'm glad at least Colin Powell is there somewhere - at leasts he
>>seems 'competent'.
>
>Except, of course, Powell is the pussy who kept us from finishing the
>Gulf War, from utterly destroying the Iraqi Republican Guard (the
>backbone of Saddam Hussein's power), because he was afraid how the
>carnage on the "Highway of Death" would play in the press.

That's not Powell's call at all even if what you claim is true. It's a
big UN/NATO compromise designed not to piss off moderate Arabs,
including the Saudis. The Clinton administration for instance had bomb
after bomb incident from the same people we're plagued with today,
including the same powers that tried successfully once before to drop
the WTC with explosives, and in 1993 and again in 1996 I believe,
actually knew exactly where Bin Laden was, to the square foot, and
chose to do nothing about it on the principle that it would piss off
moderate Arabs and foul up the "peace" process.

Thing is, Bush's policy (or actually no policy) on Israel doesn't even
figure into this movement, as with or without Israel the US is the
Great Satan, and has been for 30 years. I suppose we could blame Jimmy
Carter for his failed rescue mission in 1980 with the Iranian hostage
crisis for this if you want to point fingers mindlessly and
partisanly. I think recent events should be enough to move us beyond
caring what the piddling past matters. This is a new era and the same
bickering and snivelling about placating this or that turd-world
country or faction so they won't be pissed at us is entirely
counter-productive, as it obviously always has been.

If they want to hate us, fine. Just leave us the hell alone.

Royce Lerwick

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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:59:12 -0400 (EDT), lur...@webtv.net (Luramao)
wrote:

>We need Stormin Norman? Yes, I'd take him too! But, actually,

Hey, there's a pipe band in Oman. Just make sure we get them out first
before we clean up in there.

Royce Lerwick

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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:57:03 GMT, "Tim Sullivan"
<shen...@REMOVEflash.net> wrote:


> Me too. Exactly how hard *did* you hit you hit your head while under
>Clinton's desk?

Question really is, how long did he bang it again and again before he
noticed, being to enraptured with his activities...?

Maybe we'll get a chance to finish up with the punk kid. We have fresh
bombs and that last round gave us a chance to work all the bugs out of
the "smart" weapons systems, which is mostly what it was for anyway.
Likewise, we got to unload all those dumb bombs and run the clock down
on those B52's, get the last few miles outa them.

Royce Lerwick

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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:22:34 GMT, Chris Hamilton
<tone...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:

>I'm neither Democratic nor Republican ... quite apolitical actually
>... but the key thing is to support our leader at a time like this,
>regardless of party affiliation. Numpties who would make threats and
>declare GWB's incompetence and complicity have no clue in the real
>world.

Amen brother.

Dennis McC

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Amen to the Amen! Brotha................
Dennis

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