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Hard Drive Problems, Disk Lock 2.0

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Kris Haight

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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Hello All-

I think I am prolly wrong for cross posting this to several newsgroups...
but I would like some help if at all possible.

Let me start from the begining...

I have a 100 MB Hard Drive with System 7.1 on it, that I had used with my
Macintosh Plus. Well I was moving and the Mac Plus was not going with me, so
to insure that noone (from my family) would get into the hard drive, I
installed an OLD version of Disk Lock v2.0. (This version was made before
Symantec purchased the software from David Shayer).

I had used the Disk Lock v2.0 software on my schools computers to help
teachers prevent students from using the computer unattended. And it was
secure for most users. Well the reason why I used this software was because
it was easy to defeat if you forgot your password, OR did not know the
password to unlock the machine. The way I defeated the software, was to boot
off a floppy with a OLD copy of Norton Utils on it. Once booted, I would
launch Norton, and have it scan the SCSI bus and find the drive with
DiskLock on it. Then once Norton Scanned the SCSI bus, it usually would
mount the hard drive anyways. Then I would quit Norton, go into the hard
drive, and delete the Control Panel and Extensions associated with DiskLock
and reboot. And sure enough it would not ask me for a password, and would
boot right up.... so I thought.

Well several years had gone by (and a few macintoshes), and I finally was
able to get my Mac Plus and this hard drive out of my parent's house. Well
it had been so long since I had used the machine, I forgot the password to
the Hard Disk. Well I went looking for that old boot disk and Norton disks I
had.... well to make a long story short, my dad had a flood in his basement
and most of my disks were considered "irreadable". So I dont have that copy
of norton.

Well thinking that I could use a new copy of Norton that I had, I just
booted off the emergency floppy, and tried to do like I had done in the past
to defeat the software. Well since DiskLock is now owned by Symantec, and it
and Norton go hand and hand, when I try to "examine" the drive it says "This
hard disk is protected by security software. Norton can check the drive but
cannot make changes to it". And the hard drive does not mount. Go figgure...

So I thought.. OK I will just try to use "Drive Setup" and mount the drive.
Well Drive Setup (and Disk First Aid) dont see the drive at all. (while
Norton and FWB see it). So that doesnt work. So I got a friend to let me
borrow his FWB Hard Disk Tool Kit and try to mount it that way. Well that
doesnt work. When I click on Mount in HDT Primer Program it doesnt do
anything. And again I can see the drive, and check and make changes to it,
BUT FWB will not mount it.

So I asked a friend of mine who does Macintosh stuff for a living (and is
Apple Certified). He said to update the Hard Disk Driver with FWB's Driver,
and see if it mounts it. And I did. Well..... now it STILL doesnt mount BUT
it doesnt ask me for a password on boot (Disk Lock v2.0 asks for a password
on boot). And FWB STILL will not mount it. I also tried to use "Drive Setup"
again to mount the drive, and it STILL doesnt see the drive. Well now when I
pull up information about the drive, it says it has 0 partitions :( (in
both norton and FWB). And when I try to do a "Check Disk Media" in Norton it
says "the disk'1' is not a HFS volume. Norton will find bad blocks on a
non-HFS Volume, but cannot repair them.". And when I try to do a "UnErase"
(because I did not have Norton File Saver installed, so I cant use "Volume
Recovery"), it says "The Directory Scan was unable to locate any files
because the disks directory structure is damaged. Try another seach method.
The Master Directory Block (MDB) is damaged." Which I assume is not a good
thing.

Well I think... "aww screw it"... I might as kiss the data good bye and
format it with FWB. Well when I go to "Initilized Drive" in FWB it asks if I
am sure I want to do thsi because FWB has detected data on the drive. So I
do know my data is there, I just cannot get to it.

What I want to know is if there is any program out there that will repair a
MDB?
OR can restore the orginal Apple HD Driver?
OR can read the data off the drive even thou the directory structure is
damanged?

I also am a Linux person, and have been told Linux does support the HFS File
System, and that if I pop'd a SCSI Card into my Linux machine and enabled
HFS Support in my kernel if Linux would read the drive even thou the
directory structure is messed up. I do know Linux isnt real finikey about
reading file systems that are damanged (except for its own ext2 FS).. and
wonder if its worth the hassle of installing a SCSI card to read this hard
drive.

Information about the hard drive, what system I am trying to do the repair
on etc etc:

Macintosh: Macintosh LC with 10 MB of RAM
Internal Hard Drive OS: System 7.5.3
Internal HD Size: 80 MB
100MB Hard Drive OS: System 7.1.1
Norton Version: 3.5.1
FWB Version: 1.7 (Personal Edition)

Please note I have also tried repairing this hard drive on:

Performa 6214CD Running System 7.5.5 with 64 MB
Macintosh SE running System 6.0.8 with 4 MB
Macintosh Plus running System 7.1 with 4 MB
Powerbook 530c (with SCSI adapter) running System 8.1 with 12 MB
Quadra 950 running System 7.6 with 128 MB

The Hard Drive itself is mounted in a generic SCSI External Case. Nothing
special about it.

I've also tried changing the SCSI ID, and tried to boot OFF the hard drive
(with the Plus and LC), and that didnt work.

You now may ask what's so important about the hard drive... and just get it
over with and format the drive. =)

Well before I found the Internet, I used to do alot of writing and have a
300 page Novel I started to write on that hard drive. And I'd like to keep
it because it documents about 2 years of my life (between the novel and my
personal diary). It also contains of some software that was written for me.
And it contains ALOT of my old desktop publishing data I designed. And since
my diskettes in my dad's basement got wet, there is no backup.

I do know that I can pay a semi-forture and send the hard drive off to a
Data Recovery Company and have them retrieve the data off the hard drive.
BUT I'd like to explore all OTHER Possible options before deciding to do
this (Since this option is quite costly).

Anyone have any ideas about how to fix this?

Thanks In Advance... and if you could reply to me via email, it would much
appreciated.

--- Kris


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