what other than scientology?
Man...An Ancient Race
xganon
> what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
the Democratic Party ?
Jim Powers
"Man...An Ancient Race" wrote:
> what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
Liberalism.
Bob
Jim Powers wrote:
Extreme politics of the right or the left.
Bob
David
>what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
Madonna soaked herself in Jewish mysticism & the Kabalah. I thought
that odd.
--
Pas de lieu Rhône que nous.
MadNetter
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> what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
The N.R.A.?
Kevin "In Canada, We Don't Have Celebrities" Cogliano
Jeff Jones
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Christianity? Judaism? Islam?
Jeff Jones
Austin, Texas
Rosanne
was a Christian Scientist. Her beliefs were strong and whereas most
"movie stars" had a liquor bar in their home, she had an ice cream/
malt bar in hers.
Don't recall anything derogatory in the tabloids, so she may have led
a fairly pristine life. However, she was married and divorced 5 times
!! Perhaps her religious believes could have contributed to unhappy
liaisons.
Rosanne
Polar
wrote:
>anthony...@hotmail.com (Man...An Ancient Race) wrote:
>
>>what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
>
>Madonna soaked herself in Jewish mysticism & the Kabalah. I thought
>that odd.
The version of Kabbalah that Madonna and other celebs.
patronize(d) is a slick, glib, P.R. schtick that has been
thoroughly discredited by mainstream Jewish scholarship.
Personally, I'm not into mysticism of any sort, but I will say
that true Kabbalah is not the money-grubbing
celebrity-oriented. Kabbalah "lite" above referenced. Indeed,
originally Kabbalah was supposed to be limited to married men
over 40 who, presumably, had enough life experience to take its
study seriously.
But everybody's entitled to make a buck, I guess, and perverting
religion is nothing new under the sun.
--
Polar
Bob
MadNetter wrote:
Is that because all the talented Canadians come to the US? (Please note
the innocent look on my face, and wide eyed quizzical expression.)
Bob
Bob
Jeff Jones wrote:
Right now, Islam is not reeeeeeelllll popular.
Bob
MadNetter
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Actually, yes. There was a recent story on MovieTV, I think, that was
discussing the fact that Canada simply doesn't have a star system with
regards to actors, directors, or even to a large extent musicians. In
Canada, what passes for "celebrity" is much more self-effacing - any hint of
the fabled "rock star attitude" and your Canadian fans will call you on it.
That's not nessesarily a good thing, because without a star system it's much
harder to raise the money needed to get films off the ground. But there is a
trade-off: by staying in Canada, film-makers can exert a much higher level
of control over their works than is afforded to all but the highest echelons
of U.S. film-makers. Cronenberg, Egoyan, and Don McKellar (to name three)
have all chosen to remain within Canada for that very reason.
Basically, it's like this: the egoists move to the United States, but the
artists stay here.
Kevin "Small, But Scrappy" Cogliano
Paul Kellaway
You'll probably find it as popular as ever. People haven't stopped following
Islam just because of 11/9. People should stop assuming that any Arab/middle
eastern terrorism is down to Islam. It isn't, it's down to the individual.
Polar
I would like to agree with your (politically correct) viewpoint,
but I'm afraid that the radical/fundamentalist versions of Islam
have pretty much done away with the individual. The instigators
have set out to -- and have largely succeeded -- in creating a
mass mind like insects obeying the mullahs' hate-filled dictates
unthinkingly. In a way you can't blame these youngsters, formed
in the "madrasas" where they study nothing but rote-memorization
of Koran, and hatred of Jews, Israel and the West. They are
totally without world-context.
--
Polar
Polar
Excuse if duplicate, but I didn't see this on the NG. Maybe my
server dropped it? Happens a lot.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:11:43 GMT, dobe...@socal.rr.com (David)
wrote:
>anthony...@hotmail.com (Man...An Ancient Race) wrote:
>
>>what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
>
>Madonna soaked herself in Jewish mysticism & the Kabalah. I thought
>that odd.
The version of Kabbalah that Madonna and other celebs.
angel
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Especially by mainstream scholars.
Bob
MadNetter wrote:
So, you are saying that by all the major talents of Canada coming to the USA to
perform, it is raising the artistic level of Canadian films?
Somehow, that does not compute. I will admit that "The Red Violin" is one of
the better films I have seen in the last few years. But then, I also really
enjoyed "The Dish" from Australian
OH MY GOD MY REPUTATION IS RUINED. I HAVE POSTED ON TOPIC.
I don't know if I will ever live down the shame.
Bob
Bob
Paul Kellaway wrote:
From what I have been reading about what is in the middle eastern newspapers,
and the attitude surveys in the area, I think you might have an error in your
assumptions. Truly, I hope you are right. I do not want the Al Qaeda and Hamas
etc to ignite a holy war. I have seen enough wars in my life. The question is,
to me, why DO the terrorist organizations get such support in the middle east,
if there is no hate being taught by the Imams.
Bob
Brad Filippone
: > what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
: the Democratic Party ?
Hey, the Republican Party is even wackier. They picked George W. Bush to
be their leader.
Brad
MadNetter
Again, not quite. What I am saying is that the people who choose to remain
in Canada do so for artisitic reasons, rather than for reasons of financial
gain or world-wide fame. Whether or not they actually make better movies as
a result is open to question.
But, in the past ten years, we've seen a resurgence of some really excellent
Canadian cinema, which I don't think is an accident. Some highlights:
"32 Short Films About Glenn Gould" - the first collaboration between the
director of "The Red Violin" and Don McKellar, who wrote both screenplays,
is the rarest of things: an intelligent movie about music. A haunting,
gorgeous film.
"Last Night" - a oddly funny, oddly touching, and very sad movie about the
end of the world. Comparing this movie to "Armageddeon" tells you everything
you need to know about the differences between our cultures.
Bruce Macdonald's "Highway 61" & "Hard Core Logo" - Canadian punk road
movies, part Hope & Crosby and part Spinal Tap. Special mention for his
absurdist, brilliant TV show with the ubiquitous Don McKellar, "Twich City".
"Kissed" - Directed by Lynne Stopkewich, "Kissed" is strange and evocative
film about, well, necrophilia, which manages to never stoop to the level of
mere voyeurism. Molly Parker gives a measured, wonderful performace in this
polished gem of a film.
The films of Ron Mann, documentary gadfly. "Grass", his latest, is a very
entertaining look at marijuana culture and laws in North America, and
"Twist" presents a surprisingly strong argument that a silly dance craze may
have been a major factor in the direction of pop culture in the last half of
the twentieth century.
And of course, there's the big boys: Cronenburg's "Crash" (which I loved - I
know, I know), "eXistenZ" and "Naked Lunch"; Egoyan's "Calendar", "Exotica",
"The Sweet Hereafter" and "Felicity's Journey".
>
> OH MY GOD MY REPUTATION IS RUINED. I HAVE POSTED ON TOPIC.
>
> I don't know if I will ever live down the shame.
> Bob
Not to worry. I won't tell anyone.
Kevin "You Can Keep James Cameron, Though" Cogliano
Henry Glenworthy
> : the Democratic Party ?
>>>>
As opposed to Swilly J. Klintoon and Albot Gored?
Whooopie!
=====================================
Just Me!
says...
> From what I have been reading about what is in the middle eastern newspapers,
> and the attitude surveys in the area, I think you might have an error in your
> assumptions. Truly, I hope you are right. I do not want the Al Qaeda and Hamas
> etc to ignite a holy war. I have seen enough wars in my life. The question is,
> to me, why DO the terrorist organizations get such support in the middle east,
> if there is no hate being taught by the Imams.
A religion doesn't have to teach hate in order for hate to exist.
Christians are some of the most hateful people in the world, despite
their own beliefs to the contrary. Even today, Protestants and
Catholics are busy terrorizing each other in Ireland. And let's not
forget the "ethnic cleansing" of the 1990's committed by the Christian
Serbs against Muslims in Bosnia, not to mention Hitler and the
Holocaust. Quite frankly, the Islamic jihad is really no different from
the crusades of early Christians.
Brad Filippone
: > : > what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
: > : the Democratic Party ?
: > Hey, the Republican Party is even wackier. They picked George W.
: > Bush to be their leader.
: >>>>
: As opposed to Swilly J. Klintoon and Albot Gored?
: Whooopie!
Rhodes scholars compared to Bush.
Brad
Bob
MadNetter wrote:
> "Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>
> >
> > OH MY GOD MY REPUTATION IS RUINED. I HAVE POSTED ON TOPIC.
> >
> > I don't know if I will ever live down the shame.
> > Bob
>
> Not to worry. I won't tell anyone.
>
> Kevin "You Can Keep James Cameron, Though" Cogliano
Thanks for the list ( inadvertent, I know) of Canadian films to look for.
PROBLEM: Finding them in California.
Bob
Bob
Henry Glenworthy wrote:
Pots and Kettles. ( Although Algore did serve for a while in Vietnam.
Willy Weasled out of it, and Dubya got into the Air National Guard, and went
AWOL for a year.) In this area, Algore is the closest to a patriot.
That isn't saying much.
Bob
Bob
"Just Me!" wrote:
except for 1,000 years if intervening civilization. Which doesn't seem to have
"taken" among the Militant Muslims. Has anybody kept count on how many Israelis have
made themselves into human bombs, and blown up Arab restaurants?
Bob
Cadillac_Jones
wrote:
>
>except for 1,000 years if intervening civilization. Which doesn't seem to have
>"taken" among the Militant Muslims. Has anybody kept count on how many Israelis have
>made themselves into human bombs, and blown up Arab restaurants?
Not to condone any of it but the Israelis do have a lot of heavy
firepower which preclude the need to make themselves into bombs if
they want to inflict damage.
"I'm the luckiest man in the world. I have a cigarette
lighter and a wife...and they both work!"
Bob
Cadillac_Jones wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:50:04 -0800, Bob <chil...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >except for 1,000 years if intervening civilization. Which doesn't seem to have
> >"taken" among the Militant Muslims. Has anybody kept count on how many Israelis have
> >made themselves into human bombs, and blown up Arab restaurants?
>
> Not to condone any of it but the Israelis do have a lot of heavy
> firepower which preclude the need to make themselves into bombs if
> they want to inflict damage.
>
If you look into the history of Israel, even before the formation of the state of Israel,
when they were fighting the Brits, they never went in for the "human Bomb" situation. I
think it has to do with an amount of respect for their own lives, that many Palestinians
are being trained out of, in grade schools run by Hamas.
Bob
MadNetter
All should be available on video/DVD, except maybe the Bruce Macdonald ones.
If you liked "The Red Violin", try "32 Short Films About Glenn Gould"
first - it's similar in tone, but in my opinion a much better movie.
Another one I mentioned before is "Whale Music", a rock fable based very
loosely on the life of Brian Wilson. It's a very touching, sweet film -
feel-good without being sappy. I think you'd like it a lot.
Kevin "Good Luck" Cogliano
Chris Moorehead
news:a6ukju$f0g$3...@News.Dal.Ca:
Actually, Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar compared to anyone -- he WAS a
Rhodes Scholar.
Chris
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Durham, NC
cmoor...@attglobal.net
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My opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them."
~ Flannery O'Connor (1925-1964)
Chris Moorehead
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> "Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3C92E9EB...@ix.netcom.com...
>>
>>
>> MadNetter wrote:
>>
>> > "Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> > >
>> > > OH MY GOD MY REPUTATION IS RUINED. I HAVE POSTED ON TOPIC.
>> > >
>> > > I don't know if I will ever live down the shame.
>> > > Bob
>> >
>> > Not to worry. I won't tell anyone.
>> >
>> > Kevin "You Can Keep James Cameron, Though" Cogliano
>>
>> Thanks for the list ( inadvertent, I know) of Canadian films to look
>> for. PROBLEM: Finding them in California.
>> Bob
>
> All should be available on video/DVD, except maybe the Bruce Macdonald
> ones. If you liked "The Red Violin", try "32 Short Films About Glenn
> Gould" first - it's similar in tone, but in my opinion a much better
> movie.
I've managed to find Bruce Macdonald films in North Carolina, so they must
be available in California. NC is, after all, the Anti-California...
My fave Macdonald film is still "Roadkill", which I believe was his first.
It has an extremely bizarre plot -- female journalist goes from Toronto to
around Sudbury BY TAXI (this is a 5 hour drive) to cover a punk band who's
lead singer has suddenly taken a vow of silence & refuses to perform.
This part is apparently true -- originally, Macdonald & Don McKellar went
north to film a concert by a Toronto group called "A Neon Rome", only to
discover that its lead singer had indeed taken a vow of silence. Suddenly
left without a film, Macdonald & McKellar quickly concocted a script in
their motel room which turned into "Roadkill". In the film, McKellar plays
the world's most polite wanna-be serial killer -- worth seeing just for
him.
> Another one I mentioned before is "Whale Music", a rock fable based
> very loosely on the life of Brian Wilson. It's a very touching, sweet
> film - feel-good without being sappy. I think you'd like it a lot.
I second you on this one. Highly recommended.
> Kevin "Good Luck" Cogliano
Chris, expat CDN
Just Me!
says...
> > A religion doesn't have to teach hate in order for hate to exist.
> > Christians are some of the most hateful people in the world, despite
> > their own beliefs to the contrary. Even today, Protestants and
> > Catholics are busy terrorizing each other in Ireland. And let's not
> > forget the "ethnic cleansing" of the 1990's committed by the Christian
> > Serbs against Muslims in Bosnia, not to mention Hitler and the
> > Holocaust. Quite frankly, the Islamic jihad is really no different from
> > the crusades of early Christians.
>
> except for 1,000 years if intervening civilization. Which doesn't seem to have
> "taken" among the Militant Muslims.
It hasn't "taken" among many Christians today either. Or do you
consider the Holocaust inflicted by the Germans and the "ethnic
cleansing" done by the Serbs to merely be tea parties gone bad? And
those are only two examples... there are many more. Americans sure did
a lot of supressing of the "heathen" indians....
> Has anybody kept count on how many Israelis have
> made themselves into human bombs, and blown up Arab restaurants?
I don't condone any of it... but the Israelis aren't exactly saints in
the conflict over there either. They've killed many civilians
themselves, including a couple of pregnant women recently. Oh... but
those are mere "collateral casualties" as many people would say in
justification, much like the thousands of Afghan civilians we killed
during our own bombing (we killed more Afghans civvies than we lost
ourselves on 9-11). So that's ok, am I to assume? Pffft. The Israelis
are fully engaged in suppressing the Palestinians and have no need for
human bombs thanks to the firepower at their disposal. I fully suspect
that the Palestinian bombers would target the Israeli military if they
were able to even get within 500 feet of the military. Their actions
are not about terror so much as using the only real tools at their
disposal to try and convince these people to get out of their country.
It's not strictly about the "rewards" of being a Muslim martyr. Doubt
me? Then you explain why they've recently had female suicide bombers,
who have no such rewards awaiting them according to their beliefs. Most
likely they are killing themselves in the process knowing that if they
didn't, then they wouldn't live to get away with it anyways. The whole
reward thing is just a nice bonus.
Polar
Their country? THEIR country???
Israel is the only government that, when it is attacked, and
counter-attacks, and takes enemy territory, is forced to
withdraw. Happened in the Sinai; happened in Judea and Samaria.
Maybe they've had enough of being boy scouts in the five major
Arab attacks, plus the maniacal suicide attacks against
civilians [1] and bowing down to U.S. demands? Humiliating in
the Gulf War when they wanted to defend themselves against Scuds,
like any country would, but were "ordered: by by Big Brother
Uncle Sam to "stay out of this; we'll handle it" (refused to give
Israel certain codes). So Israelis huddled in sealed rooms
wearing gas masks, while their military furiously chafed at the
bit - not "allowed" to defend their own country.
[1] Didn't you just love the recent suicide bomber who stalked
Jews coming out of prayers on the Sabbath, and headed straight
for the women pushing baby carriages?
>It's not strictly about the "rewards" of being a Muslim martyr. Doubt
>me? Then you explain why they've recently had female suicide bombers,
>who have no such rewards awaiting them according to their beliefs. Most
>likely they are killing themselves in the process knowing that if they
>didn't, then they wouldn't live to get away with it anyways. The whole
>reward thing is just a nice bonus.
No it isn't; it's the motivation inculcated into these ignorant
people from early childhood on. In your spare time, do a little
surfing on the Web sites of the various terrorist organizations
-- Hamas, Hezbollah, Arab Brotherhood, Fatah (Arafat's outfit),
etc. The curriculum is right up there on the screen. So is the
actual intent -- drive the Jews into the sea. It has never
changed, no matter how much Washington and Jerusalem concede.
Arafat has always said one thing to the West and another to "his"
people. Take a sheet of paper. Write down on one side Arafat's
promises to the family of nations. Write down on the other side
the ones he has kept. Right. That's what I thought.
--
Polar
Polar
wrote:
As well as the terrorists trained in the fundamentalist Madrasas
in Pakistan, from where they slipped across to Afghanistan, and
from where they have infiltrated more countries than is generally
realized.
Jews not only have "respect for their own lives", as you suggest
above, but respect for life in general is inherent in the belief
system (religion).
The Hebrew Bible has "God" saying: "See, I have set before you
life and death; therefore choose ye life".
Throughout the Hebrew Bible, saving life is extolled as the
highest virtue, even at the cost of violating certain unbreakable
taboos (like desecrating the Sabbath, etc.) A well-known saying
holds that "..saving one life is as though you saved the whole
world."
There is no comparison between the Jews' reverence for life and
the Fundamentalist Muslim Jew-haters' indifference to life.
In fairness, many Christian sects also preached (still preach?)
that this "vale of tears" is but a preparation for the afterlife.
That is why, e.g. the most hideous tortures inflicted on
non-Christians by the Inquisition; by Queen Elizabeth I and other
monarchs; by the wars between Protestants and Catholics --
all were considered perfectly OK; in fact good for the salvation
of the person under torture. The torturers believed they were
doing their victiims a favor by giving them a chance to repent
and convert. This "favor" was often extended by placing wool
pads soaked in water on the head and heart of the victim tied to
the stake, so that as the flames mounted around them, they would
stay alive a little longer, and so have more chance to "save
their souls".
--
Polar
Brad Filippone
: al...@chebucto.ns.ca (Brad Filippone) wrote in
: news:a6ukju$f0g$3...@News.Dal.Ca:
: > Henry Glenworthy (Henery_G...@xoregontrail.net) wrote:
: > : "Brad Filippone" <al...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
: > : > xganon (nob...@xganon.com) wrote:
: >
: > : > : > what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities
: > : > : > dig?
: >
: > : > : the Democratic Party ?
: >
: > : > Hey, the Republican Party is even wackier. They picked George W.
: > : > Bush to be their leader.
: >
: > : >>>>
: >
: > : As opposed to Swilly J. Klintoon and Albot Gored?
: >
: > : Whooopie!
: >
: > Rhodes scholars compared to Bush.
: >
: > Brad
: Actually, Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar compared to anyone -- he WAS a
: Rhodes Scholar.
LOL! Good point and I had forgotten it. Well, he'd be a Rhodes scholar
compared to Bush even if he DIDN'T have one for real.
Brad
Steve Oldham
Ancient Race) wrote:
>what are some other whacky cults and beliefs that celebrities dig?
The Cult of Personality.
Steve
MadNetter
"Chris Moorehead" <cmoor...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> My fave Macdonald film is still "Roadkill", which I believe was his first.
> It has an extremely bizarre plot -- female journalist goes from Toronto to
> around Sudbury BY TAXI (this is a 5 hour drive) to cover a punk band who's
> lead singer has suddenly taken a vow of silence & refuses to perform.
I saw "Roadkill" at it's premiere, believe it or not, at the Princess Cinema
in Kitchener-Waterloo, many a moon ago. He had shot part of it at the old
K-W Drive In. Macdonald introduced the film and talked a bit about his
experiences showing the film, without sound, to line-ups of people at the
Toronto Film Festival. (He would take a projector and a screen, find a line
up that still had a few hours to go, and play the movie for people, talking
all the dialogue himself.)
I think it was when he won the Toronto Audience Award for "Highway 61",
which entails a cash prize of about $25 000 CDN, that somebody asked him
"What are you gonna do with the money?" His response: "I'm going out and
getting a chunk of hash as big as my head."
Bruce Macdonald - World's Greatest Canadian.
Kevin "Second Greatest" Cogliano
Chris Moorehead
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> I think it was when he won the Toronto Audience Award for "Highway
> 61", which entails a cash prize of about $25 000 CDN, that somebody
> asked him "What are you gonna do with the money?" His response: "I'm
> going out and getting a chunk of hash as big as my head."
Similar to Sir Kingsley Amis, who, when asked what he was going to do with
his Booker Prize money, responded "mostly spend it on booze"...
> Bruce Macdonald - World's Greatest Canadian.
Agreed. Kevin Smith is but a pale copy of Bruce.
Chris, expat CDN
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Durham, NC
cmoor...@attglobal.net
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signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are
not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."
~ Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1953
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"Dr. Speedbyrd" wrote:
> what happened, pussy-mouth? couldn't handle the opposition?
> I told you I would win. You should have believed me.
>
You lost so bad you should be embarrassed. The problem is, you cannot recognize it.
It got to where it wasn't a sport anymore, watching you all bloodied and bruised, and
unable to come back with only the most feeble defenses. Perhaps some people took pity
on you.
Bob
Just Me!
sme...@mindspring.com says...
> Their country? THEIR country???
>
> Israel is the only government that, when it is attacked, and
> counter-attacks, and takes enemy territory, is forced to
> withdraw. Happened in the Sinai; happened in Judea and Samaria.
If I recall correctly... the State of Israel was "created" from Islamic-
controlled territory by a UN resolution. Small wonder that they're all
pissed off.
> Maybe they've had enough of being boy scouts in the five major
> Arab attacks, plus the maniacal suicide attacks against
> civilians [1] and bowing down to U.S. demands? Humiliating in
> the Gulf War when they wanted to defend themselves against Scuds,
> like any country would, but were "ordered: by by Big Brother
> Uncle Sam to "stay out of this; we'll handle it" (refused to give
> Israel certain codes). So Israelis huddled in sealed rooms
> wearing gas masks, while their military furiously chafed at the
> bit - not "allowed" to defend their own country.
Yeah... I'd be pretty annoyed too.
> [1] Didn't you just love the recent suicide bomber who stalked
> Jews coming out of prayers on the Sabbath, and headed straight
> for the women pushing baby carriages?
I never said I condone it. In fact... I specifically said I don't
condone/approve of it. I also don't approve of the Israelis shooting
and killing pregnant women (this act is what brought on the second
female suicide bomber) This whole "well they started it" excuses used
as apologies for Israeli acts is childish.
> >It's not strictly about the "rewards" of being a Muslim martyr. Doubt
> >me? Then you explain why they've recently had female suicide bombers,
> >who have no such rewards awaiting them according to their beliefs. Most
> >likely they are killing themselves in the process knowing that if they
> >didn't, then they wouldn't live to get away with it anyways. The whole
> >reward thing is just a nice bonus.
>
> No it isn't; it's the motivation inculcated into these ignorant
> people from early childhood on. In your spare time, do a little
> surfing on the Web sites of the various terrorist organizations
> -- Hamas, Hezbollah, Arab Brotherhood, Fatah (Arafat's outfit),
> etc. The curriculum is right up there on the screen. So is the
> actual intent -- drive the Jews into the sea. It has never
> changed, no matter how much Washington and Jerusalem concede.
Of course they want to drive the Jews into the sea. As mentioned
earlier, the State of Israel currently exists by a UN resolution and was
created from Islamic-controlled territory against their will. In fact,
The League of Arab States Coucil said "it would take whatever measures
were required to prevent implementation of the resolution." And I can
understand the stance. You can bet yer ass that... if the UN decided
that a new country should be created out of US territory for native
Americans and forced it upon the US... that the US would fight it to the
death, as would many of the citizens.
> Arafat has always said one thing to the West and another to "his"
> people. Take a sheet of paper. Write down on one side Arafat's
> promises to the family of nations. Write down on the other side
> the ones he has kept. Right. That's what I thought.
I'd be interested to see what proof there exists of Arafat making
opposing statements like that. I suspect that Arafat simply doesn't
have very good control over his people. That... or he's making promises
he can't keep. Our own Presidents do that all the time.
Jeffrey Davis
"Just Me!" wrote:
>
> In article <v7879u07qmthhgjni...@4ax.com>,
> sme...@mindspring.com says...
>
> > Their country? THEIR country???
> >
> > Israel is the only government that, when it is attacked, and
> > counter-attacks, and takes enemy territory, is forced to
> > withdraw. Happened in the Sinai; happened in Judea and Samaria.
>
> If I recall correctly... the State of Israel was "created" from Islamic-
> controlled territory by a UN resolution. Small wonder that they're all
> pissed off.
>
Democracies tend to do that to authoritarian regimes.
--
Jeffrey Davis <res0...@verizon.net> By this time, my lungs
were aching for air!
C.J.
It's not as overtly culty as Scientology, but they do share many
similarities. The biggest difference is that Landmark doesn't call itself a
"religion".
Some members include:
Robin Quivers (Howard Stern Show)
Andy Dick
Andy & Larry Wachowski (wrote & directed The Matrix)
Chuck Palahniuk (wrote Fight Club)
Thomas Andrews
changed its name at some point...
=thomas
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Jeffrey Davis
The worship of Moloch.
C.J.
The head of Landmark is the brother of the guy who started Est.