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[gnu.misc.discuss] Re: Mono

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Jonathan Thornburg

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11 jul 2001, 7:02:0311/7/01
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In article <877kxgg...@toncho.dhh.gt.org>,
John Hasler <jo...@dhh.gt.org> wrote:
>I try Mozilla every month or so. Right now I have 0.9.1 installed. It
>crashed several times in a couple of hours of use, can't display the Gimp
>manual, gives me no control over the display of images, and has several
>other bugs that I disremember just now. Galeon and Skipstone are slightly
>different, but no better. Konqueror is more stable than Mozilla, but still
>crashes about as often as Navigator and also has no useful image control.

Without defending any of these programs for their crashes, I should
note that the quasi-commercial Netscape Navigator crashes regularly
on every system where I've used it (with only occasional web browsing,
I'm probably averaging a crash every 2-3 days lately), including
various versions of Red Hat GNU/Linux, OSF/1, SunOS, OpenBSD, and
Irix. And certain web pages will reliably/reproducibly crash it.

On the positive side, I've *never* had lynx crash. (It is, admittedly,
a much smaller and simpler piece of software.) I just wish it could
render HTML tables into ASCII in a reasonable manner...

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-- Jonathan Thornburg <jth...@thp.univie.ac.at>
Max-Planck-Institut fuer Gravitationsphysik (Albert-Einstein-Institut),
Golm, Germany http://www.thp.univie.ac.at/~jthorn/home.html
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Linus Torvalds

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11 jul 2001, 18:43:5111/7/01
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In article <87lmlvm...@toncho.dhh.gt.org>,
John Hasler <jo...@dhh.gt.org> wrote:
>
>Philip Hunt writes:
>> konqueror seems to be doing quite well, IMO
>
>It doesn't crash as often as Navigator and Mozilla, but it still crashes.
>I'd use it, but it has no useful image control.

I started using konqueror because it's the only thing that renders
things well (anti-aliased fonts etc are a major issue for me, I cringe
every time I see a regular netscape page these days).

It's been getting a lot better too, and what really impressed me about
the whole thing was how well the KDE people react to bug-reports. I had
a site that I reported as badly rendered, and three days later the
problem was 100% fixed.

You really have to be on the CVS tree to see konqueror shine, and it's a
bit painful to do that because of all the dependencies (you have to make
sure that you update all the relevant projects so that you don't have
old plugins etc messing up), but I'm completely sold on it. Not only
does it look better than Mozilla and Navigator, but it doens't force
that silly side-bar on you, and the developers seem to be a-ok.

(I also much prefer koffice over StarOffice - I hate the stupid "we know
what kind of desktop you like" approach SO has. I've not seen any of
the upcoming OpenOffice to see if they really got that right, but it's
supposed to be fixed).

Linus

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