PELs MU's PETITION
Roger Gall
The petitioners therefore request that The House of Commons urge the
Government to include a Licensing reform Bill in the next Queen's speech,
and that this Bill ensures parity with Scotland where live music, both
amateur and professional, is automatically allowed in pubs during permitted
hours and where public safety and noise issues are regulated by existing
UK-wide legislation.
Printed and published by Musicians' Union. Please return by 31st October
2002 to: Musicians' Union, PEL, 60/62 Clapham Road, London, SW19 OJJ.
David Kilpatrick
thankfully the banjo was inaudible (looked funny though, apparently
playing a silent banjo because the mike was next to the fiddles). Still,
they got my mate Pete swigging a pint instead of playing guitar right
behind me. Guitar idle, pint hand active!
The edit included the most coherent thing I said, which was that anyone
was welcome to come to our pub sessions throughout the south of Scotland
(Dumfries and Galloway have a parallel programme to the Borders Region
of sessions this autumn), and it did not have to be traditional, or
Scottish - that we just enjoyed making music and would always make some
space for visitors.
Just hope that MU drawing attention to Scotland's different position on
this does not result in HM Govmt deciding that Scotland needs changing.
David
Jon Freeman
> Just hope that MU drawing attention to Scotland's different position on
> this does not result in HM Govmt deciding that Scotland needs changing.
I don't personaly know the position in Scotland but I'm under the impression
that it works...
I have been amazed by some of the statements made in reading these threads:
Noise seems to be consideration but lets face facts: A large TV is capable
of far more noise than a couple of purely accoustic players. Not to mention
the f****** juke box in many pubs.
Numbers in pubs: I will personaly bear witness to playing in a Tuesday
night session in The Temple Bar, Norwich on the same night as tv coverage
where we unfortunately shared a room. This may not bear well in terms of
persuading a landlord to take folk music on board but the fact was, the
pub's busy nights were the nights when team like Man U looked like it was
going somewhere.
The "logic" of football in pubs not causing problems in pubs remains a
mystery to me. By the most elementry logic, those that go to play music are
there to play together but those who go to watch football can be rivals. I
will agree tht I have had times when going to a pub (I'll give going up to
the Cross Keys, Penrhynside, N Wales when I lived in that area as an
example), the banter can be fun but I also know pubs I wouldn't have
ventured into on a match night...
I also find it strange that football violence in pubs, going by the reports
I've read here, it never causes problems.
It really seems a far cry from reports of violence and arrests at games and
alchohol being banned at some matches, yet football in pubs is safe!... As I
mentioned above, I do know pubs where a laugh is possible but football IMO
does appear to carry the greater risk.
The media seems to have little interest in poining out any stupidities in
rules but I guess they have vested interests in getting their tv shown,
large pubs hve interest in coins thrown in jukeboxes, as do record
companies, councils want revenue... I think the PEL issuses have little to
do with any safety or noise issues but concern people representing thier own
self interests at the expense of reason.
Maybe I'm being a little paranoid but I think all parites concerned would
like the nation turned into a bunch of spoon fed zombies with no sense of
tradition.
Jon