Eat the Document concert footage
Alan
Document exists anywhere in its entirety or was it just cut up and lost
forever. If it does exist are there any bootleg videos of those 66 shows? It
would be great to see a whole 66 show, or at least more than a minute or two of
a song. Thanks all.
Richard
captured more than the camera because at the time the analog audio recorder
held more tape than the camera. You only get a few min on one reel of 16mm.
Then there were those batteries.
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> In general they were using one camera and one tape unit. The tape unit
> captured more than the camera because at the time the analog audio recorder
> held more tape than the camera. You only get a few min on one reel of 16mm.
> Then there were those batteries.
>
>
> "Alan" <profw...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Does anyone know if the concert footage that we just get snippets of in
> Eat the
> > Document exists anywhere in its entirety or was it just cut up and lost
> > forever. If it does exist are there any bootleg videos of those 66 shows?
> It
> > would be great to see a whole 66 show, or at least more than a minute or
> two of
> > a song. Thanks all.
>
>
I remember seeing a rock and roll show hosted by John Sebastian and it
featured clips of many different artists. They showed Bob doing I
Don't Believe You from that 66 tour in it's entirety. I wish I had
that on tape...I remember it being really great, though that goes
without saying around here.
Cla
Artur J
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>
> I remember seeing a rock and roll show hosted by John Sebastian and it
> featured clips of many different artists. They showed Bob doing I
> Don't Believe You from that 66 tour in it's entirety. I wish I had
> that on tape...I remember it being really great, though that goes
> without saying around here
"The Golden Age Of Rock And Roll"???
That was an abridged version from Edinburgh 20-May-66 - less than 3 minutes
then switch to The Byrds :-(...
EtD contains a longer one...
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Artur J
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possibly Dylan still owns the films made over the UK...
so far EtD is the best treat of the era. There's also a full-length Ballad
Of A Thin Man in circulation as an Eat The Document outtake. Some say it May
1, 1966, some May 19, 1966 (Dundas). It's a kind of "promo" - not only the
live footage...
John Howells
<"Richard" <feir...@empireone.net> wrote in message news:<3c432...@corp.newsgroups.com>...
<> In general they were using one camera and one tape unit. The tape unit
<> captured more than the camera because at the time the analog audio recorder
<> held more tape than the camera. You only get a few min on one reel of 16mm.
<> Then there were those batteries.
<>
<>
<> "Alan" <profw...@aol.com> wrote in message
<> news:20020114132902...@mb-mp.aol.com...
<> > Does anyone know if the concert footage that we just get snippets of in
<> Eat the
<> > Document exists anywhere in its entirety or was it just cut up and lost
<> > forever. If it does exist are there any bootleg videos of those 66 shows?
<> It
<> > would be great to see a whole 66 show, or at least more than a minute or
<> two of
<> > a song. Thanks all.
<>
<>
<I remember seeing a rock and roll show hosted by John Sebastian and it
<featured clips of many different artists. They showed Bob doing I
<Don't Believe You from that 66 tour in it's entirety. I wish I had
<that on tape...I remember it being really great, though that goes
<without saying around here.
That was just a clip taken directly from "Eat the Document". It's no
more complete than it was in the film. Nice quality, though.
--
John Howells
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Les Kokay
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> "The Golden Age Of Rock And Roll"???
Close. The program was called 'Heroes of Rock and Roll'. I still have that
on video.
> That was an abridged version from Edinburgh 20-May-66 - less than 3
minutes
> then switch to The Byrds :-(...
> EtD contains a longer one...
The same clip (in various forms of completeness) exists in quite a few forms
and was even officially released (but quickly withdrawn) in a 'Music World'
video of Bob Dylan ( I could be wrong here, as I haven't looked at that
video in a while). I seem to recall that it was used in an episode of
'Dancing in the street', (again I haven't looked at that one in a while) so
that's another official release. I think someone pointed out that the
soundtrack has been 'fiddled'; as Dylan's introduction has been dubbed on .
frinjdwelr
> "Alan" <profw...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Does anyone know if the concert footage that we just get snippets of in
> Eat the
> > Document exists anywhere in its entirety or was it just cut up and lost
> > forever. If it does exist are there any bootleg videos of those 66
shows?
> It
> > would be great to see a whole 66 show, or at least more than a minute or
> two of
> > a song. Thanks all.
>
> possibly Dylan still owns the films made over the UK...
> so far EtD is the best treat of the era. There's also a full-length Ballad
> Of A Thin Man in circulation as an Eat The Document outtake. Some say it
May
> 1, 1966, some May 19, 1966 (Dundas). It's a kind of "promo" - not only the
> live footage...
>
seen from ED... Thin Man at the Piano. It's amazing and is painful for how
it makes you wish for more. I heard it was produced by Jesse Dylan?
If anyone has extra footage it's probably Pennabaker. He was asked about
this in an interview some years ago with The Telegraph(I think it was) He
said he had some in cold storage but was holding out for technology to
develop. The film is extremely fragile and can only be run once. So it
needs to be immediately transfered onto another medium. He also talked
about sharing the ownership of the films with Dylan, but I don't remember
the details.
I've also heard the films were indeed extensively cut up during the editing
process, so once again, blame Mr. Dylan.
Alan
>possibly Dylan still owns the films made over the UK...
>so far EtD is the best treat of the era. There's also a full-length Ballad
>Of A Thin Man in circulation as an Eat The Document outtake. Some say it May
>1, 1966, some May 19, 1966 (Dundas). It's a kind of "promo" - not only the
>live footage...
>
>
A full length Ballad Of A Thin Man. That sounds great. Is that in wide
circulation or pretty hard to find. I just have a video I got that has on it a
65 press conference, Eat the Document, and the Dylan/Lennon backseat of the car
footage with Dylan getting sicker. I wish that Ballad Of A Thin Man had been
thrown on there also.
Thanks for all the replies.
Artur J
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> "Artur J" <bobd...@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
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> >
> > "The Golden Age Of Rock And Roll"???
>
> Close. The program was called 'Heroes of Rock and Roll'. I still have that
> on video.
>
:-)
That's how it is when you translating something back to English from other
language.. ;-))
Alan Fraser
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>> "Artur J" <bobd...@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > "The Golden Age Of Rock And Roll"???
>>
>> Close. The program was called 'Heroes of Rock and Roll'. I still have that
>> on video.
>>
>
>:-)
>That's how it is when you translating something back to English from other
>language.. ;-))
Maybe not. According to my very incomplete records they are two
different programmes. "Heroes Of Rock 'N' Roll" dates from 1979 and
"The Golden Age Of Rock 'N' Roll" is a boxed set from 1996 - I have
details of the latter on both DVD and VHS on my page at:
http://www.searchingforagem.com/VHS-DVD2.htm
I have only the sketchiest details of Heroes, so I'd welcome more
information. I have pictures of Golden Age, but not publisher and
catalog number.
I'm also looking for more details of a video with Bob content called
"The Fabulous 60s Vol. 7".
Alan
maxenglish
> If anyone has extra footage it's probably Pennabaker. He was asked about
> this in an interview some years ago with The Telegraph(I think it was) He
> said he had some in cold storage but was holding out for technology to
> develop. The film is extremely fragile and can only be run once. So it
> needs to be immediately transfered onto another medium. He also talked
> about sharing the ownership of the films with Dylan, but I don't remember
> the details.
>
> I've also heard the films were indeed extensively cut up during the editing
> process, so once again, blame Mr. Dylan.
I think it's that Pennebaker has the actual alternate film Something's
Happening - and probably some extra footage - maybe a music concert
section he made also - I'm not sure.
I think Dylan has the rest in air-conditioned vaults.
It's Dylan's home-movie, in essence, unmade-for-TV.
Alan
>this in an interview some years ago with The Telegraph(I think it was) He
>said he had some in cold storage but was holding out for technology to
>develop. The film is extremely fragile and can only be run once. So it
>needs to be immediately transfered onto another medium. He also talked
>about sharing the ownership of the films with Dylan, but I don't remember
>the details.
>
>I've also heard the films were indeed extensively cut up during the editing
>process, so once again, blame Mr. Dylan.
>
Well, I hope the technology needed comes about soon (if it doesn't already
exist) because it would be great to see whatever footage still exists, if any.
Though something annoying would probably happen like the footage would be
rescued and transferred, but then it would never be released like Eat the
Document (has EtD ever had any kind of official release?) and we'd have to hope
for bad fourth generation copies of the concert footage to surface somewhere.