Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon
Clarence L. Thomas IV
unstoppable war in the former Yugoslavia, the devastating fires in Australia,
the flood in the Midwest of the United States of America, the devastating fires
near Los Angeles, California, the rapid and appalling increase in violence in
cities, towns, villages all over the world, the famines, the diseases, the rapid
decline of the family unit, and the destructive earthquake in India (in 1993)
are signs that this world's history is coming to a climax. The human race
has trampled on God's Constitution, as given in Exodus 20:1-17 (King James
Version Bible), and Jesus is coming to set things right. These rapidly
accelerating signs are an indication that Jesus is coming soon (Matthew 24).
God's Holy Spirit is gradually withdrawing its protection from the earth
and the devastating events you see are demonstrations of Satan's power. All
those who are not guarded by God are in danger of forever losing eternal life.
If you want to know what's about to happen, please study the books of Daniel
and Revelation which are located in God's Word, the Bible. They are not
sealed or closed books. They can and must be understood by all. Every word
in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation is true. The Bible and the Bible only
must be your guide.
When God's Law (the Constitution for the Universe) is consistently ignored,
disregarded, changed, and questioned, He permits certain events to occur to
wake us up. I would urge all, wherever you are and regardless of the
circumstances, to directly call on Jesus and ask Him to intervene in your life.
Jesus who created this planet and every living creature in it and on it, died
on the cross, was raised from the dead by God the Father, and is now in Heaven
interceding for you. Jesus is the only One who can rescue us from the slavery,
misery, and death Satan is causing us.
For reference I'm including God's Constitution as given in the King James
Version Bible. Please note that when God says the seventh day, he means Sabbath
(the 7th day of the week) not Sunday (1st day of the week).
Commandment #1: Exodus 20:1-3 (KJV) And God
spake all these words, saying, I am
the LORD thy God, which have brought
thee out of the land of Egypt, out
of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have
no other gods before me.
Commandment #2: Exodus 20:4-6 (KJV) Thou shalt not make
unto thee any graven image, or any
likeness of any thing that is in heaven
above, or that is in the earth beneath,
or that is in the water under the earth.
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them
that love me, and keep my commandments.
Commandment #3: Exodus 20:7 (KJV) Thou shalt not take
the name of the LORD thy God in vain;
for the LORD will not hold him
guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Commandment #4: Exodus 20:8-11 (KJV) Remember the sabbath
day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou
labour, and do all thy work: But the
seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD
thy God: in it thou shalt not do any
work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter,
thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor
thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is
within thy gates: For in six days the
LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and
all that in them is, and rested the seventh
day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath
day, and hallowed it.
Commandment #5: Exodus 20:12 (KJV) Honour thy father and thy
mother: that thy days may be long upon the
land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Commandment #6: Exodus 20:13 (KJV) Thou shalt not kill.
Commandment #7: Exodus 20:14 (KJV) Thou shalt not commit
adultery.
Commandment #8: Exodus 20:15 (KJV) Thou shalt not steal.
Commandment #9: Exodus 20:16 (KJV) Thou shalt not bear
false witness against thy neighbour.
Commandment #10: Exodus 20:17 (KJV) Thou shalt not covet
thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not
covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his
manservant, nor his maidservant, nor
his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that
is thy neighbour's.
I also recommend that the following books be obtained and closely studied:
The Great Controversy
By Ellen G. White
Review and Herald Publishing Association
Hagerstown, MD 21740
The Desire of the Ages
By Ellen G. White
Review and Herald Publishing Association
Hagerstown, MD 21740
Patriarchs and Prophets
By Ellen G. White
Review and Hearld Publishing Association
Hagerstown, MD 21740
Daniel and the Revelation
By Uriah Smith
Review and Herald Publishing Association
Hagerstown, MD 21740
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Clarence L. Thomas IV
Phone: 616-471-6116
E-mail: tho...@redwood.cc.andrews.edu
Michael Alden Swartwout
Clarence L. Thomas IV <clar...@orion.cc.andrews.edu> wrote:
>God's Holy Spirit is gradually withdrawing its protection from the earth
>and the devastating events you see are demonstrations of Satan's power. All
>those who are not guarded by God are in danger of forever losing eternal life.
Wait, are you saying Satan has the power to creat famine, earthquakes and
the like? I don't believe that...
Mike
Tim Powell
the baptist church I used to attend said 'Yes folks, he's coming
TONIGHT!' Lets pray for our loved ones. I guess he has gods fax
number.
2) Doesn't the bible say that jesus will return like a theif in the night
(when you least expect it) But then it gives you the signs to look for?
Is this a contradiction? seriously? I mean if you watch the signs and
they follow order with the scripture (or appear to anyway) then wouldn't
you know? Or be kinda EXPECTING?
3) My own public service announcement: 'United States soon to announce
alien presence on earth!' For more hype refer to alt.paranormal.
thedm
John Prosper
>Clarence L. Thomas IV wrote:
>
>>God's Holy Spirit is gradually withdrawing its protection from the earth
>>and the devastating events you see are demonstrations of Satan's power. All
>>those who are not guarded by God are in danger of forever losing eternal life.
>
>Wait, are you saying Satan has the power to creat famine, earthquakes and
>the like? I don't believe that...
I am sending this privately so as not to continue this ridiculous thread. I
don't know what is going on with this thread. I have heard that Mr. Thomas
(or somebody else) posted this message to more than 1,000 newsgroups. His
systems administrator has been alerted due to numerous complaints, and if
he is, in fact, guilty, he may well have his Internet privileges revoked.
I have seen this sort of thing happen before.
If you read the first few chapters of Job you will see that Satan does
indeed have the power to cause natural disasters, although God can forbid
him if He chooses to.
Furthermore, during the temptation in the desert when Satan took Jesus up
to a high place, he "showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their
glory." (Matt. 4:8). If you think about it you will realize there is no
point on earth where one can see all the kingdoms of the world. I have not
been to the top of Mt. Everest, but I am an avid photographer and subscribe
to a number of photo magazines where photographs from Everest's summit has
been shown. You can't see the rest of the world from there. Satan was able
to accomplish this through his own power.
Paul points out that Satan is devious enough to transform himself into an
angel of light (1 Cor. 11:14). Jesus even warns that false christs and
false prophets will arise in the end using Satan's power to mimic genuine
miracles (Matt. 20:24).
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Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.
>
>2) Doesn't the bible say that jesus will return like a theif in the night
>(when you least expect it) But then it gives you the signs to look for?
>Is this a contradiction? seriously? I mean if you watch the signs and
>they follow order with the scripture (or appear to anyway) then wouldn't
>you know? Or be kinda EXPECTING?
No contradiction. The signs are there to alert us that He is
coming soon. This does not mean that we can know "the day or
the hour."
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Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr, Department of Electrical Eng'g and Applied Physics
graduate student slave, roboticist-in-training and Q wannabee
Wise men still | I practice the safest form of sex | My boss is a
seek Christ. | known. It's called abstinence. | Jewish carpenter
David Washburn
Please don't encourage this guy! He posted this drivel to literally
thousands of newsgroups, and has made multiplied thousands of people
really mad with it by consuming bandwidth on a topic that has nothing to
do with 99% of the groups he sent it to. I don't know what he's trying
to prove, but extremists like this give the rest of us a bad name.
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Dave | | thought in my life.
John
>From: rck...@leland.stanford.edu (Michael Alden Swartwout)
>Subject: Re: Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon
>Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 21:36:06 GMT
>Mike
He had the power to turn 1/3 of the angels against God.
The power that he does have, is only because God allows it.
Frank DeCenso, Jr.
WRATH OF THE LAMB/GOD
REV 6:12-17 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a
great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon
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became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree
drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Then the sky receded
as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out
of its place. And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the
commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in
the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and
rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and
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from the wrath of the Lamb! "For the great day of His wrath has come, and who
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is able to stand?"
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REV 16:8-11 Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power
was given to him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great
heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues;
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and they did not repent and give Him glory. Then the fifth angel poured out
his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom became full of darkness;
and they gnawed their tongues because of the pain. They blasphemed the God of
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heaven because of their pains and their sores, and did not repent of their
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deeds.
WRATH OF SATAN
(This Scripture's timing would depend on one's view of eschatology)
REV 12:12 "Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to
the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you,
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having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
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When God's wrath hits, the world will know it!
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"the Scriptures cannot be broken".
Jesus (John 10:35)
Brian D. Todoroff
it was posted.
IMHO: Personally I thought it was innapropriate to blast it on all the
news groups that way. I think it damaged alot of people's views of
Christians on the Internet. While I understand the purpous I don't
personally approve of the method.
Brian D. Todoroff
Harvey Mudd College Class of '97
Claremont, California God bless.
btod...@hmc.edu Please excuse the typos. :-)
mv...@anuxv.att.com
>I'm curious to hear your reactions to this post and the manner in which
>it was posted.
>
>IMHO: Personally I thought it was innapropriate to blast it on all the
>news groups that way. I think it damaged alot of people's views of
>Christians on the Internet. While I understand the purpous I don't
>personally approve of the method.
>
I'll tell you one thing though: Everyone who laid their eyes on that post
will have no excuse before the judgment throne of God. And if they replied
to that post in an evil or mocking way, God will use that as evidence of
that person's rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ. The original poster's
message may have not been the appropriate message to post but he did
reach a tremendous amount of people.
Alex
Nick Munn
|> I'll tell you one thing though: Everyone who laid their eyes on that post
|> will have no excuse before the judgment throne of God. And if they replied
|> to that post in an evil or mocking way, God will use that as evidence of
|> that person's rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ. The original poster's
|> message may have not been the appropriate message to post but he did
|> reach a tremendous amount of people.
If it is really the case that any poorly-stated proclamation of the Gospel, if
heard by a non-believer, is sufficient to damn them, then missionaries should be
shot on sight. [This is a paraphrase of a quote from Terry Pratchett, btw.]
Given the teaching of the Bible with regard to those who cause others to
stumble or fall in their faith, I would suggest that the original post was a
very bad idea: if one person of the many who read it rejects Jesus as a result
of this post, then I suggest that the original poster has committed a grave sin.
Put it this way: if a global thermonuclear war would produce a mass conversion,
it's still wrong for a Christian to start one with that end in view. Does God
behave like that? Then neither should we!
Nick.
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University Chemical Laboratory, Lensfield Road, Cambridge CB2 1EW
- Almost everything I say, I mean to say. Mostly, what I say is what I mean.
- If God had meant us to think, he'd have given us brains.
- The symbol (Fe) denotes irony.
Theodore A. Kaldis
> The earthquake in Los Angeles, California, the flood in Europe, the
> seemingly unstoppable war in the former Yugoslavia, the devastating
> fires in Australia, the flood in the Midwest of the United States of
> America, the devastating fires near Los Angeles, California, the rapid
> and appalling increase in violence in cities, towns, villages all over
> the world, the famines, the diseases, the rapid decline of the family
> unit, and the destructive earthquake in India (in 1993) are signs that
> this world's history is coming to a climax. [...]
[Yawn.] Here we go again. I've been hearing this same old stuff for
about 23 years now -- and I'm sure it goes back much farther than
this. But this brings to mind Pat Robertson's series of fundraising
shows on the 700 Club these past two weeks. Robertson cites all the
major disasters this country (the U.S.A.) has experienced in the past
few years -- the Loma Prieta earthquake in '89 (which affected the San
Francisco area), Hurricane Hugo in '89 (South Carolina), the Oakland
(California) fires, a couple of Nor'easters in '91 and '92 which
resulted in flooding in the NYC -- New Jersey shore areas, Hurricane
Andrew (Miami), Hurricane Iniki (Hawaii), an extremely active tornado
season last year in the lower Mississippi valley, the "killer"
snowstorm in mid-March of '93 (which swept up from eastern Tennessee
to Quebec), the L.A. fires this past fall, and, of course, the L.A.
earthquake of '94. Robertson contends that this represents God's
judgement upon the U.S. for immoral living.
According to Robertson, all these recent disasters are among the most
expensive to ever hit the U.S. Now, as to whether these disasters
represent God's judgement, I'll leave that as an open question. But
with regard to whether they are the most expensive, well, I think
there's a lot of room for debate here. In 1964, an 8.5 (or so)
earthquake hit Alaska (about 100 times more powerful than the recent
L.A. earthquake). But, what would a 1964 dollar buy as compared to a
'94 dollar? (I was around in '64, old enough to remember, and I
remember 1-cent bubblegum, 5-cent candy bars, and 10-cent soda-pop.
And gas, from what I remember walking past the gas station on my way
to school, was something like 21.9 cents a gallon.) And the great San
Francisco earthquake of '06 was an 8.2 (or so).
As far as damage to the Jersey shore by the Nor'easters (storms which
are accompanied by extremely high tides), several old timers down the
shore told me about more serious damage from the hurricane which hit
in '62 or so (I'm from Colorado and hence wasn't here then). They
said the high tides were much, much worse -- and that at the height of
the storm, a tidal wave hit in Seaside Heights, which caused the ocean
to meet the bay in several places. (Seaside Heights sits on a
peninsula about a mile wide which runs parallel to the coastline, so
it's kind of like a barrier island, except it's connected to the
mainland on the north end.) The Nor'easter didn't even come close to
this.
But back to Robertson. He talks of these disasters in apocalyptic
terms, creating among his audience a sense of urgency that cannot be
ignored. The unavoidable conclusion is that it isincumbent upon us to
do something to halt the moral backward slide of our nation in order
to forestall even more serious disasters from befalling us. And what
should we do? Why, send money to Pat Robertson, of course!
Now, I do not wish to discredit Pat Robertson. He is certainly doing
many positive and laudable things. And doubtless it takes a lot of
money to do some of these things. But, I'm sorry, his fundraising
techniques rub me the wrong way. The suggestion -- stated outright --
is that "America is sick unto death". The obvious conclusion is that
God's people must act in order to effect the healing. But the
implication seems to be that one's moral obligation is properly
discharged by dropping a check in the mail. In my mind, this serves
to thoroughly discredit the rest of Robertson's message.
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mv...@anuxv.att.com writes:
>I'll tell you one thing though: Everyone who laid their eyes on that post
>will have no excuse before the judgment throne of God. And if they replied
>to that post in an evil or mocking way, God will use that as evidence of
>that person's rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ. The original poster's
>message may have not been the appropriate message to post but he did
>reach a tremendous amount of people.
>
>Alex
being rejected by God? And if so, wouldn't they be better off if they had
never read the message?
Tim
Mark Graham AUFFLICK
>I'll tell you one thing though: Everyone who laid their eyes on that post
>will have no excuse before the judgment throne of God. And if they replied
>to that post in an evil or mocking way, God will use that as evidence of
>that person's rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ. The original poster's
>message may have not been the appropriate message to post but he did
>reach a tremendous amount of people.
>Alex
This reminds me of an incident at the outreach coffee-shop I helped at
this summer (Aus summer - Jan) -- a guy from a well known band came in,
& asked for a jam (we had a band at the shop) -- one of our guys went
through the song that this new guy wanted to play, & saw nothing wrong
with it.
The guy then proceeded to demonstrate a deep-breathing exercise, then
sang his song - which one of our guys realised was symbolism suggesting
Jesus was still dead ie. not resurrected.
We quickly got him off stage - feeling very sucked in! The prayer room
went wild (ie. about 6 people praying simultaneously wih all the
earnesty they could muster) plus we were ALL praying!
Anyway, the non-Christians who were in the shop realised he was not one
of us, and the situation started a LOT of meaningfull conversations
about God, from which at least one person became a Christian (or very
nearly made a decision) that night!
Now we know there is no doubt that it was an attack from satan (by other
events that night), but it was also an amazing demonstartion of God's
power, and his ability to use our weakness, and to turn all situations
to his glory!!
I agree that the guy who posted this article has warped motives, but I
also have no doubt that God will use this article to start a lot of
conversations.
It is sad that it will harden some peoples hearts, but "the same sun
that hardens clay melts butter" - or something to that effect!
Chow - and remember to pray for thus incredible situation!
Your Bro. in Christ,
Mark Aufflick
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Helmut Richter
I strongly disagree. Although some of the responses were indeed evil in
tone and thus did square quite well with the rudeness of the original
poster, many others, who tried to find a witty answer (with more or
less success) at least showed a sense of humour which is not easy to
keep in such cases. They, most of them no Christians, have thus
demonstrated a virtue that is so obviously lacking to some of us.
To conclude a "rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ" is only justified
if the Lord would indeed have been recognizable in the posting.
I have already problems with the original posting, not only with the
rude form to distribute it. Where are we ever asked to spread the Bad
News? Where in the Acts was it the message of the apostles that their
listeners are sinners and thus bound to disaster? My Bible tells
differently: they preached the ressurection (Ac.4:2, 4:33, 13:33) of
the Lord and its consequences: the Good News that in His Name there is
liberation from sin and death. - With this I do not mean that anything
of the posting was in itself wrong: this is information given by Jesus
to His disciples to encourage them (Lk.21:28) but not the message to
the people to discourage or condemn them. Whenever the people discovered
their sin and repented, it was the work of the Holy Spirit and not of
somebody using the Bible as a sledgehammer.
There is one thing which I do not understand at all: this is the
satisfaction in Alex's posting that the Lord is able to collect additional
material against people: "they have no excuse", "God will use that as
evidence". I am aware that He is coming for judgment and this is very,
very serious. But it is new to me that He, like a crafty attorney, is
constantly collecting evidence which He may use against people. This
would fit better for the guy called the "accuser" in the Bible - but
that one knows that he is defeated; he has not even the right to speak
before the throne of the Almighty even if his accusations are correct
(Zach.3:1-3).
Helmut
Nick Munn
"OK, he's coming. But is he a Strat or a Les Paul guy?"
There are some things I guess we'll never know....
Nick.
Matthew Moss
>In article <CK24H...@spss.com>, mv...@anuxv.att.com writes:
>|> I'll tell you one thing though: Everyone who laid their eyes on that post
>|> will have no excuse before the judgment throne of God. And if they replied
>|> to that post in an evil or mocking way, God will use that as evidence of
>|> that person's rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ. The original poster's
>|> message may have not been the appropriate message to post but he did
>|> reach a tremendous amount of people.
>
>If it is really the case that any poorly-stated proclamation of the Gospel, if
>heard by a non-believer, is sufficient to damn them, then missionaries should
>be shot on sight. [This is a paraphrase of a quote from Terry Pratchett, btw.]
>Given the teaching of the Bible with regard to those who cause others to
>stumble or fall in their faith, I would suggest that the original post was a
>very bad idea: if one person of the many who read it rejects Jesus as a result
>of this post, then I suggest that the original poster has committed a grave
>sin.
I must disagree. The Bible does teach that we must not cause a *brother* to
stumble. Also, the post made cannot cause those who have rejected Christ to
reject him again -- they have already turned away, as every person has before
opening their hearts to Christ.
>Put it this way:if a global thermonuclear war would produce a mass conversion,
>it's still wrong for a Christian to start one with that end in view. Does God
>behave like that? Then neither should we!
Different situation, I believe. Clarence did not start a war, nor kill anyone,
nor hurt anyone -- he simply posted his views to the internet-world. He has
provided information and testimony, not blown anyone up. Whether it was
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