Gun barrel sequence...
James Robert Calhoun
Does anyone know why the gun barrel blinks across the screen as it
movies from left to right? I was watching FYEO and I seem to
remember one of the more recent films having a solid shot [npi] as
it moved to target Bond. A director's whim perhaps?
Another point: although Brosnan's portrayal seems to meet with
rather stern opposition from some members of the group, I think
that most would agree that his barrel sequence is the best --Moore
[in FYEO at least] was really slow and Connery's left arm thrown to
the side and quick kneel have never really done it for me. --But I
do wish that Pierce would clip his tie down.
jAMES
Wmkoenig
>movies from left to right?
I believe at that point, it's not supposed to be a gunbarrel but instead
represents a series of gun shots. Then it becomes larger and at that point it
transforms into the gunbarrel.
0011
Wmkoenig
>rather stern opposition from some members of the group, I think
>that most would agree that his barrel sequence is the best
I think personally that Dalton's was better. He moves more catlike to fire.
0011
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I like Lazenby throwing himself down on one knee.
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>:|I would agree with you there. I believe you are correct. I happen to like
>:|the older sequences and my personal favorite is Connery in FRWL compute with
>:|the fedora and all.
Unfortunately, that's not Connery but a stand in (and his name escapes
me for the moment but someone will remind me, I'm sure)
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Absorb
"RCC" <rkrc...@att.net> wrote:
> Bob Simmons.
The first time I saw his gunbarrel sequence, I was stunnned by the fact
that he wore a hat. I remember sitting there dumbfounded because I had
never thought that Bond would wear some stupid looking bowler thing on
his head. I know better now.
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>Unfortunately, that's not Connery but a stand in (and his name escapes
>me for the moment but someone will remind me, I'm sure)
Bob Simmons. Connery didn't appear in his own until Goldfinger, I believe.
The Shadow
Absorb wrote :
>The first time I saw his gunbarrel sequence, I was stunnned by the fact
>that he wore a hat.
Sign of the times, in most of Dr. No Sean does wear a fedora.
I remember reading an article that JFK refused to wear a fedora and since
the President did not bother wearing a hat there was a decline in sales.
Much like Clark Gable not wearing a tee-shirt in the film It Happened One
Night, most men noticed that he did not wear one so why should they.
Monkey see...monkey do. ; )
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Jim Paul
huh? I only remember two scenes where he wore a hat...the early scenes
when he first arrived in Jamaica.
Peredur Glyn
one known as Mac <ma...@SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote something vaguely
similar to this:
>I like Lazenby throwing himself down on one knee.
I'm sure, but what about the gunbarrel sequence?
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> Bob Simmons. And technically that makes Mr. Simmons the first Bond to
> appear on the big-screen.
>
> (For those of you out there desperately searching for a trivia question that
> no one can answer)
>
Not if you include the trailer to the movie.
jd
John Moore
> Sign of the times, in most of Dr. No Sean does wear a fedora.
>
> I remember reading an article that JFK refused to wear a fedora and since
> the President did not bother wearing a hat there was a decline in sales.
> Much like Clark Gable not wearing a tee-shirt in the film It Happened One
> Night, most men noticed that he did not wear one so why should they.
>
> Monkey see...monkey do. ; )
Monkey's throw their feces.
They also liked TMWTGG, Monnraker, AVTAK, and TNDs.
jd
TimSCurtin
>Date: 5/11/99 1:17 PM Central Daylight Time
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>
>
>Absorb wrote :
>>The first time I saw his gunbarrel sequence, I was stunnned by the fact
>>that he wore a hat.
>
>
>
>
I'm no expert on hats, but I would have called it a Homburg myself, or maybe a
trilby. I liked that hat, BTW. I think it gave a quirky sort of distinction
to Connery's costume. A Humphrey Bogart-style fedora would have looked very
gangstery and American but not had the same ironic aura of respectability.
TC
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>Bob Simmons. And technically that makes Mr. Simmons the first Bond to
>appear on the big-screen.
>
>(For those of you out there desperately searching for a trivia question that
>no one can answer)
I copied this message. Just in case. <g>
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> In the ancient parchments of <373825E3...@SPAMLESSvirgin.net>, the
> one known as Mac wrote something vaguely
> similar to this:
>
> >I like Lazenby throwing himself down on one knee.
>
> I'm sure, but what about the gunbarrel sequence?
Oh! Is that what we're talking about?
Doh! Silly me. I'll get me filthy mac...
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>Monkey's throw their feces.
>
>They also liked TMWTGG, Monnraker, AVTAK, and TNDs.
But then, wouldn't they throw those films?
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the scene?
Burnsy
Matt Levy wrote in message
>> Bob Simmons. Connery didn't appear in his own until Goldfinger, I
believe.
>Wasn't it Thunderball? Because they changed the scope and had to reshoot
>the scene?
Quite right, because Thunderball was in CinemaScope... My mistake, I
apologize for the error.
Paul Baack
The Shadow wrote in message <7h9s99$5fj$1...@cletus.bright.net>...
>
>Absorb wrote :
>>The first time I saw his gunbarrel sequence, I was stunnned by the fact
>>that he wore a hat.
>
>
>
>Sign of the times, in most of Dr. No Sean does wear a fedora.
>
Not to pick nits, but I believe Connery's Bond wore a Trilby. Fedoras are
what Bogart and Indiana Jones wore.
>I remember reading an article that JFK refused to wear a fedora and since
>the President did not bother wearing a hat there was a decline in sales.
>Much like Clark Gable not wearing a tee-shirt in the film It Happened One
>Night, most men noticed that he did not wear one so why should they.
According to legend, absolutely true. (Although Bond wore a hat through
OHMSS; and in the gunbarrel sequence in DAF; and he was in possession of one
in FYEO.)
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the older sequences and my personal favorite is Connery in FRWL compute with
the fedora and all.
Wmkoenig <wmko...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Mac
> Peredur Glyn wrote:
>
> > In the ancient parchments of <373825E3...@SPAMLESSvirgin.net>, the
> > one known as Mac wrote something vaguely
> > similar to this:
> >
> > >I like Lazenby throwing himself down on one knee.
> >
> > I'm sure, but what about the gunbarrel sequence?
>
> Oh! Is that what we're talking about?
>
> Doh! Silly me. I'll get me filthy mac...
That's "dirty mac" you dummy!
DOH!
Don't worry, nobody reads your crap gags anyway.
Good job, otherwise everyone on the ng would know you talk to yourself.
No I don't!
*sigh*
ShyGuy8119
>OHMSS; and in the gunbarrel sequence in DAF; and he was in possession of one
>in FYEO.)
I believe he also had one in AVTAK...I remember it set up the "hat theme" for
the scene when Moneypenny had that frilly pink hat.... :-)~
Paul
Dan Hartung
<jcal...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>Does anyone know why the gun barrel blinks across the screen as it
>remember one of the more recent films having a solid shot [npi] as
>it moved to target Bond. A director's whim perhaps?
It seems to be slightly different in some small way each time out, if
only in the music. I hate when they rush the gunbarrel -- TND being a
typical example, where after the gunshot they jump right into the horn
flourish and open the "spyglass" view. It's TOO FAST. I like a moment
to get into the 007 mood and this doesn't do it.
I also feel it's absolutely necessary to have the BABAbum BABAbum BABA
BABA bum flourish to start it, and EON doesn't always do it that way.
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wmko...@aol.com (Wmkoenig) wrote:
> >Does anyone know why the gun barrel blinks across the screen as it
> >movies from left to right?
>
view finder, which the shooter (poor chap) uses to target bond which
later transforms into the gun barrel.
Willard Whyte
> Wmkoenig wrote:
>
> > >Another point: although Brosnan's portrayal seems to meet with
> > >rather stern opposition from some members of the group, I think
> > >that most would agree that his barrel sequence is the best
> >
> > I think personally that Dalton's was better. He moves more catlike to fire.
>
> I like Lazenby throwing himself down on one knee.
>
>
i like connery's in daf, i particularly like the way in which he stretches one
arm out, and i like the trilby hat too
Willard Whyte
> The Shadow wrote in message <7h9s99$5fj$1...@cletus.bright.net>...
> >
> >Absorb wrote :
> >>The first time I saw his gunbarrel sequence, I was stunnned by the fact
> >>that he wore a hat.
> >
> >
> >
> >Sign of the times, in most of Dr. No Sean does wear a fedora.
> >
>
> Not to pick nits, but I believe Connery's Bond wore a Trilby. Fedoras are
> what Bogart and Indiana Jones wore.
>
> >I remember reading an article that JFK refused to wear a fedora and since
> >the President did not bother wearing a hat there was a decline in sales.
> >Much like Clark Gable not wearing a tee-shirt in the film It Happened One
> >Night, most men noticed that he did not wear one so why should they.
>
> According to legend, absolutely true. (Although Bond wore a hat through
> OHMSS; and in the gunbarrel sequence in DAF; and he was in possession of one
> in FYEO.)
>
> Paul
>
bond wore a trilby hat, which was smaller and narrower than the larger fedora.
fedoras were thinner too.
Willard Whyte
> On Mon, 10 May 1999 21:20:37 -0700, James Robert Calhoun
> <jcal...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> >Does anyone know why the gun barrel blinks across the screen as it
> >movies from left to right? I was watching FYEO and I seem to
> >remember one of the more recent films having a solid shot [npi] as
> >it moved to target Bond. A director's whim perhaps?
>
> It seems to be slightly different in some small way each time out, if
> only in the music. I hate when they rush the gunbarrel -- TND being a
> typical example, where after the gunshot they jump right into the horn
> flourish and open the "spyglass" view. It's TOO FAST. I like a moment
> to get into the 007 mood and this doesn't do it.
>
> I also feel it's absolutely necessary to have the BABAbum BABAbum BABA
> BABA bum flourish to start it, and EON doesn't always do it that way.
>
> --
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> dhartung (at) wwa (dot) com | on the wings that we create"
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i think the best one is the one from DAF, describes all the point you
like, and the teaser following itis good.
Peredur Glyn
known as Dan Hartung <dhar...@nospam.wwa.com> wrote something vaguely
similar to this:
>I also feel it's absolutely necessary to have the BABAbum BABAbum BABA
>BABA bum flourish to start it, and EON doesn't always do it that way.
I agree totally.
Dug Weir
Barrel came on only to notice that it was all going on in a small box in
the middle of the screen. You would have thaught they could have re-
filmed it for widscreen.
Dug
Smyth
see the return of Bond's hat. Obviously he couldn't *wear* it, which would
look ridiculous. But it would just be nice to see him *throw* it. I feel
it's the one Bond 'trademark' (you know, like the Moneypenny scene, the Q
scene, the 'M' scene, the 'Bond. James Bond . . . etc.) that's been lost.
Apparently a 'hat-throwing' scene was originally in the TLD script.
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>
>The Shadow wrote in message <7h9s99$5fj$1...@cletus.bright.net>...
>>
>>Absorb wrote :
>>>The first time I saw his gunbarrel sequence, I was stunnned by the fact
>>>that he wore a hat.
>>
>>
>>
>>Sign of the times, in most of Dr. No Sean does wear a fedora.
>>
>
>
>Not to pick nits, but I believe Connery's Bond wore a Trilby. Fedoras are
>what Bogart and Indiana Jones wore.
>
>>I remember reading an article that JFK refused to wear a fedora and since
>>the President did not bother wearing a hat there was a decline in sales.
>>Much like Clark Gable not wearing a tee-shirt in the film It Happened One
>>Night, most men noticed that he did not wear one so why should they.
>
>
>According to legend, absolutely true. (Although Bond wore a hat through
>OHMSS; and in the gunbarrel sequence in DAF; and he was in possession of
one
>in FYEO.)
>
>Paul
Paul Baack
cool would it be if James Bond brought back the hat? That would also be a
neat piece of go-around, as the hat was killed, at least here in the US, by
the famous Bond wannabe JFK.
I think Brosnan is tough enough to bring it off. Hell, he got away with an
ascot in "GoldenEye!"
Paul
Smyth wrote in message <7hd08t$ph$1...@news1.cableinet.co.uk>...
>I know that I'm probably in the minority here but I'd actually quite like
to
>see the return of Bond's hat. Obviously he couldn't *wear* it, ...
Absorb
"Smyth" <P_Smy...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> I know that I'm probably in the minority here but I'd actually quite > like to see the return of Bond's hat.
I don't, but that's probably because the only adults I see wearing hats
to work are on "Walker: Texas Ranger".
> Obviously he couldn't *wear* it, which would look ridiculous.
"No, I am not the only person in the world who wears a trilby hat to work
in the 90's. Really."
> But it would just be nice to see him *throw* it.
Well, the only problem with that is the fact that if Bond throws a hat
onto the hat and coat stand, that implies the following:
1. He actually wears the hat at some point in time. This would be
somewhat silly due to the aforementioned reasons.
2. He doesn't actually wear the hat, but he carries the hat around with
him. This would be rather strange as one does not normally carry around
hats that one has no intention of wearing.
> I feel it's the one Bond 'trademark' (you know, like the Moneypenny
> scene, the Q scene, the 'M' scene, the 'Bond. James Bond . . . etc.)
> that's been lost.
That may be true. Unfortunately, I see no way of incorporating the "hat
throwing scene" into a new Bond film without making Bond look ridiculous
short of forcing the entire world's population to wear hats all the time.
> Apparently a 'hat-throwing' scene was originally in the TLD script.
Interesting.
Absorb
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>In article <7hd08t$ph$1...@news1.cableinet.co.uk>,
>Well, the only problem with that is the fact that if Bond throws a hat
>onto the hat and coat stand, that implies the following:
>1. He actually wears the hat at some point in time. This would be
>somewhat silly due to the aforementioned reasons.
>2. He doesn't actually wear the hat, but he carries the hat around with
>him. This would be rather strange as one does not normally carry around
>hats that one has no intention of wearing.
I think that we all like to carry a hat around with us from time to time.
>That may be true. Unfortunately, I see no way of incorporating the "hat
>throwing scene" into a new Bond film without making Bond look ridiculous
>short of forcing the entire world's population to wear hats all the time.
I dunno. I thought that he pulled it off pretty well in OP(?). That was in
1983, so they'd been out of fashion a while back then. Still, I suppose it's
a matter of opinion.
Anyway, if the worst comes to the worst, I have 5 billion trilby's here and
people *will* wear them.
JD Wiseman (John Moore)
> I know that I'm probably in the minority here but I'd actually quite like to
> see the return of Bond's hat. Obviously he couldn't *wear* it, which would
> look ridiculous. But it would just be nice to see him *throw* it. I feel
> it's the one Bond 'trademark' (you know, like the Moneypenny scene, the Q
> scene, the 'M' scene, the 'Bond. James Bond . . . etc.) that's been lost.
OR, he could throw somebody else's hat!
jd
Levi Ramsey
>Brosnan wore his Naval uniform in TND which of course had a hat. So, he
>could be in his military garb and toss his hat as Connery did on the
>submarine in YOLT.
But wouldn't somebody walking in Naval Uniform into MI6 HQ look conspicuous.
In the Brioni/Brosnan incarnation, at least he might be confused by
passersby for some analyst or desk weenie (albeit a well-dressed one).
Blox
James Robert Calhoun wrote:
> : although Brosnan's portrayal seems to meet with rather stern
> opposition from some members of the group, I think that most would
> agree that his barrel sequence is the best --Moore [in FYEO at least]
> was really slow and Connery's left arm thrown to the side and quick
> kneel have never really done it for me.
....To be honest, Brosnan's little jig impresses me as too stiff and
ungraceful. George Lazenby's turn, which you didn't mention, I found to
be fairly slick. Of the lot, only Connery's version replicates the
authentic commando posture for shooting on the fly.
The most effective version of all the gunbarrels was done for DAF.
Binder added an animated spiral effect to the otherwise static gun
barrel matte & the sequence needs to be seen on the big screen to be
appreciated.
B l o x
Richard Ashton
Brosnan wore his Naval uniform in TND which of course had a hat. So, he
could be in his military garb and toss his hat as Connery did on the
submarine in YOLT.
Richard
Smyth
was far, far, far too large?
It looks totally ridiculous.
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I can't shave the world today. I've got a tummy ache."
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>
Smyth
with Connery's (although I haven't seen it on the big screen). Although it's
not as obvious as some people suggest, it is quite clear that he 'stumbles'.
Also, it doesn't suit being in just black & white (as it is in YOLT and
DAF).
My personal preference is Dalton's in TLD, he does it perfectly (recapturing
the cat-like grace of Bond), and the music is great. My only gripe is that
the background looks to yellow (if that can be considered a legitimate
critisism)
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Blox wrote in message <373AAA19...@nospam.edu>...
UnLukEtluv
>was far, far, far too large?
>It looks totally ridiculous.
perhaps pirs bonbon's head is too small. no, thats not it.
JD Wiseman (John Moore)
> I'd go along with Lazenby's as a good GB sequence. Although I'd disagree
> with Connery's (although I haven't seen it on the big screen). Although it's
> not as obvious as some people suggest, it is quite clear that he 'stumbles'.
> Also, it doesn't suit being in just black & white (as it is in YOLT and
> DAF).
>
> My personal preference is Dalton's in TLD, he does it perfectly (recapturing
> the cat-like grace of Bond), and the music is great. My only gripe is that
> the background looks to yellow (if that can be considered a legitimate
> critisism)
If you notice, the same footage is used in LTK but blown up a bit. It looks
horrible.
jd
Matthew J Newton
wrote:
They did - it is actually the same footage as TB (the first Bond movie
in Panavision). However, it appears that there is some damage to the
widescreen print of YOLT since the first few seconds are in 4:3 (look
at the opening shot of the spacecraft that follows the gunbarrel).
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