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David Andrews

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Jul 15, 2001, 11:32:41 PM7/15/01
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Since I got no reply to my previous post, and have a deadline looming, I am
re-posting this message.

Greetings to all from a "newbie" to this interesting group.

For a presentation I will be making to the Tampa Bay MUFON group in August,
I am researching the possibility of a connection between HAARP and
mind-control/"non-lethal" weapons.

It is clear from reading ANGELS DON'T PLAY THIS HARP that the potential
exists for the HAARP transmitter to create ELF-pulsed signals that could
create a number of psycho-tronic effects in populations over a large area of
the planet. There is reasonable evidence that the Russian "Woodpecker"
signals
were used in this way.

Does anyone know of evidence that HAARP has actually been used or tested for
these effects?

Thank you for any info you may have. If there are postings in this
newsgroup "archives" which address this subject, please feel free to e-mail
them to me.

Dave Andrews


Wishanick

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Jul 16, 2001, 8:05:43 AM7/16/01
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>Does anyone know of evidence that HAARP has actually been used or tested
>for
>these effects?

Do you think they would actually admit to this? Or if they did do something and
it was found out, it would be immediately spinned into something Americans
could swallow and then go back to their normal lives. I have been asking about
this for years and no one seems to see the potential for abuse with this
system. I disagree with the "benign" aiming of s/loads of RF at high wattage
into the atmosphere, which is what they say is all they are doing. Just how do
they know what affect this will have on the atmosphere?

Sorry I can't help you, all I can do is rant.

Rgds,
Jen
"Ignorance is the only evil"

David Andrews

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Jul 16, 2001, 9:39:49 AM7/16/01
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Jen,

Rant or not, what you say makes sense.

I did not expect any "admission" but hoped for some sort of evidence, even
circumstantial... they beam, there's civil unrest, weird disease outbreaks,
etc.

A government with a history like ours (MKULTRA, etc., etc., etc.) would not
pass up the opportunity to test a powerful "weapon" like this.

Maybe they're just able to cover their tracks pretty well.

One thing you said that I disagree with, "no one seems to see the potential
for abuse"; I think a lot of us see the potential for abuse. Dr. Begich was
very effective (I thought) in pointing out some of the dangers. And
emphasizing that there are probably dangers no one is even aware of. Most
people that I know who are aware of HAARP are disturbed by it. Just as with
all the other weird stuff the "hidden government" has been up to... but it
is hard to have the courage to stand up to "them".

Best wishes,

Dave

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JV

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Jul 16, 2001, 7:38:50 PM7/16/01
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I think you can listen to HAARP on shortwave 3.3900Mhz

JV


David Andrews

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Jul 17, 2001, 12:05:20 AM7/17/01
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"JV" <mc...@icom.ca> wrote in message news:9ivu6o$ufp$1...@news.chatlink.com...

> I think you can listen to HAARP on shortwave 3.3900Mhz
> JV

Hi, JV, thanks for your input.

Actually, it appears that HAARP can create a wide range of frequencies. But
though ham operators can hear results of HAARP's transmissions, that doesn't
mean we necessarily have any idea what they're doing. That's what I want to
know... what ARE they up to?

Dave


Wishanick

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Jul 18, 2001, 3:56:38 AM7/18/01
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>One thing you said that I disagree with, "no one seems to see the potential
>for abuse"; I think a lot of us see the potential for abuse.

Hi Dave,

I mean people I talk to, friends, they sort of say, yeah it's bad, but what can
we do? It's our stinky govt again, like they are so used to it that they are
powerless. Or that's this is the norm and the way it should be.

But I guess there are a lot of people who take it seriously.

Rgds,
Jen

David Andrews

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Jul 20, 2001, 12:39:09 AM7/20/01
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Hi, Jen,

I sometimes wonder how much of the "ho hum, so the government is screwing
innocent people again" attitude is paranoia... what if you are an "agent
provocateur" trying to entrap them into saying or doing something that will
make them an object of government mind control. Isn't it the same kind of
fear that keeps someone from wanting to "get involved" when they see someone
being mugged?

I have friends who consider themselves to be in the "spiritual community"
who believe that my "weird news" page (which has a lot of links to
conspiracy theories, UFO, mind control, etc.) is the kind of thing people
should avoid. "If I take it into my consciousness, I give it more power."

I disagree, feeling that if we quietly allow injustices to continue, we are
practically as guilty as the people who commit them. And I also believe
that knowledge is the key to freedom. If I ignore the fact the there is a
"hidden government" that assassinates presidents and atty. generals and
civil rights leaders, then I give them de facto permission to do whatever
they want. But if I'm aware of what is happening, it at least gives me a
chance to someday be in a position to have an influence.

Oh, well, I suppose this is a rant, too. It's hard to imagine how I could
be a thorn in the paw of people as powerful as those at NSA/CIA/DIA, etc.
But maybe....

Dave

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SIR Arthur C. B. Wholeflaffer A. S. A.

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Aug 4, 2001, 1:05:51 PM8/4/01
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The answer is a emphatic YES' HAARP is being used for
mind-control, and it is very effective!! Secondly, this
technology is being developed as part as a black-operation
with the help of certain off-world entities known as aliens.

The Chem-Trail program, which has caused massive
illness throughout the USA, is also part of the
alien/Pentagon/Northrop-Lockheed-Raytheon program.

The purpose of this program is the genocide of 99.9% of the
human population, which will be replaced by a perfected
alien/human hybrid. These new hybrids will be hooked
up to "one mind" via the HAARP system.

The above information is completely accurate as stated
by the ultimate insider Gen. Borman Killemall (pseudonym).

Our time here is short and the only way to stop this
program is to let everybody know about it and try and inform
the good soldiers at the Pentagon to stop it before it is too late,
which it probably already is.

Hope that helped, I'm sure it did,

SIR Arthur

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SpiralMix

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Aug 4, 2001, 1:22:30 PM8/4/01
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Creation itself is unfolding a beutiful story right infront of our eyes.
Stop paying attention at the decaying systems of the power hungry and enjoy
the splendors of ourselves and the upcoming era. That HAARP bable is a dense
system that affects only the dense. No human/alien hybrid is going to
replace us, if that was the goal it would have been done in a matter of
minutes. We do have free-will, and God itself is protecting it. Listen to
the little voice within you and start learning the real Truth.

"SIR Arthur C. B. Wholeflaffer A. S. A." <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in
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LIGHTBEING

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Aug 4, 2001, 2:11:10 PM8/4/01
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Well j of 3r, they not completely wrong about it, but they are thinking to
negative about it and so they feed the dark ones. This will only happen to
people who love money, power and war, people who are fuly controlled by the
system.
The dark ones will NOT win this time, this planet earth will soon clean her
surface from negative beings and she shall restore her balance with love.
Do not think so said about things, soon the time will come that you
understand it all. Just send out loving energies out of your body and the
grey`s/dark ones/reptillian`s will not see you !

Greetz Albert
Blend of loving energies.

"j of 3r" <iam...@home.com> schreef in bericht
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> On or about Sat, 04 Aug 2001 17:05:51 GMT, SIR Arthur C. B.
> Wholeflaffer A. S. A. <nos...@newsranger.com> typed:


>
> >The purpose of this program is the genocide of 99.9% of the
> >human population, which will be replaced by a perfected
> >alien/human hybrid. These new hybrids will be hooked
> >up to "one mind" via the HAARP system.
>

> OK, you are starting to sound like Wayne Manzo...
>


Mancer

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Aug 4, 2001, 5:25:18 PM8/4/01
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I would suggest anyone suffering from mind control or interested in where,
who and how doesn't pay attention to the mention of Aliens.

It's very easy for people to get their imaginations captivated by thoughts
of beings from another world and in the long run would give some piece that
people doing these experiments will feed upon. (your fears, your
imagination)

I should mention Yes HAARP is apart of this in certain respects, but thats a
military weapon, they wouldn't be commendering people within their own
country when they could be using the equipment on:
Demorilizing Enemy troops, and hassling political spies.

Most information on HAARP being used was for it to be used in the
conjunction with Finding Submarines. Namely resonating the Hull to make it
rattle, so even at a full stop the "empty vessel makes more noise".

Normal RF equipment on Satellites have just as much, if not more ability to
be able to manipulate thought patterns.


Wayne Manzo

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Aug 4, 2001, 5:47:44 PM8/4/01
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Is this a bad thing?

http://aresister.tripod.com
http://mansue.com

Read, think, then read again!

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LIGHTBEING

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Aug 5, 2001, 4:23:39 AM8/5/01
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Yes it`s a bad thing when you are angry or negative because that`s what the
reptillian`s just need to feed them. As i said, they life on negative
vibrations that`s why it`s so a mess on earth.So they take the negative
vibrations into their body as food.
Like money, it`s a big control game to make all people dependent, the whole
economic is a big control game so people must work for money so they are all
slaves from the reptillian`s.

We don`t need the reptillian`s, if we just send love vibrations out of our
body they cannot stay here on earth anymore because the frequentie is to
high for them. This is no joke Wayne, leave the angry thoughts because you
only feed them with it.
And i see still people talk about death in this newsgroup, there is no
death, we where always there,we have always existed only in other
dimensions/lifeforms.

So everyone, please send loving energies out of your body, you will save the
earth also with it.

Greetz Albert,
Blend of loving energies.

"Wayne Manzo" <wares...@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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Wayne Manzo

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Aug 5, 2001, 1:25:23 PM8/5/01
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I'm a scientist Dammit! You must use scientific terms and
logic!

Thank you,

Wayne "Mulder" Manzo

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David Andrews

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Aug 7, 2001, 9:48:12 PM8/7/01
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"SIR Arthur C. B. Wholeflaffer A. S. A." <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in
message news:PXVa7.17290$ar1....@www.newsranger.com...
> The answer is a emphatic YES' HAARP is being used for
> mind-control, and it is very effective!! Secondly, this
> technology is being developed as part as a black-operation
> with the help of certain off-world entities known as aliens.

<snip>

> Hope that helped, I'm sure it did,
>
> SIR Arthur

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Oh, yes, you really DO think it helped, I am sure.

My question was an honest one, but I got very few honest responses. Finally
I did get the word that the answer to my question is that there is evidence
that HAARP has been used for mind control presented in Dr. Nick Begich's
book Earth Rising - The Revolution.

I have ordered the book, and should have the info I was seeking within a few
days.

Thanks anyway.

Dave


Wayne Manzo

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Aug 8, 2001, 3:07:08 PM8/8/01
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Sounding like "genius" Wayne Manzo or the movie
"Star Trek: First Contact!". Get the picture! They are collective and
telepathic and the "Borg" was based on the real alien race!


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