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willytex

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Jul 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/28/00
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On 7/26 willytex wrote
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Thread: High Chair Wannabe
<snip>
"When the Indian High Court rules in favor of Sri Swami Vasudevanand,
your pretender Shank guy will be chairless and must be going back to
the Dwark. You comprende? No chair. No high chair. Discredited. No
PUNDIT Shank. No seat. No name. No fame. No vastu. Back to Dwark. A
laughing stock of the amt newsgroup. A pretender Shank. Wants to be
having two High Chairs. Two chairs, one Shank, not sanctioned by Adi
Shankara! Kali yug. Egomaniac Swoop."
<snip>
On 7/26 Steve Perino wrote
<snip>
"Hardly a 'pretender Shankaracharya' as Shree Swami Swaroopananda
Saraswatiji will remain head of Dwarika Shards Peetham."
<snip>
>
SteveP - You idiot babbling bhakta two-step arm-lifter! No. Not a
pretender to the Dwark Seat, but the Swoop should have resigned Jyotir
wannabe chair immediately upon accepting the Dwark Seat. Not good to
have a Seat AND a wannabe High Chair. Not good. Not Vastu Shastra. Not
Adi Shankaracharya protocol. Swoop should sit at the Dwark, do TM like
Guru Dev did, then do japa and asana, then maybe watch a little kirtan,
make nice comment on Gita etc., Maybe swing in the swing chair for a
few minutes, then go to sleep early, get up early, maybe fix up the run-
down Dwark Seat and STOP ALL THIS PRETENDING TO BE TWO SHANKS IN ONE.

Not good to be forever walking back and forth to the hut behind the
Joshi math, then back to the dusty Dwark pad. Then to the barristers.
Then to the courthouse. Not a good way to set example and make good use
of Dwark Math time and public/benefactor funds! Not seemly. Not Vedic.
Not in tradition of Guru Dev. No.

Also, Swoop Shank should maybe watch his foul mouth with all this Hindu
Raj Dharma talk fomenting discord between Muslims and Hindus. Not good
to be the cause of diviseiveness. Not good for Shank Swoop to advocate
nuclear arsenal etc. Not good for Swoop Shank to support jati casteism.
Indian High Court will admonish unseemly parties. Devotees will speak.

The Indian Tmers will rise and construct the WTB in 108 months right in
the middle of Arya Bharat in honor of the Great Guru Dev. The WTB will
be entirely built according to Vaastu Shastra and thousands of yogic
phlying PUNDITS will be inside with the chanting and the yagyas
radiating absolute coherence all the way to Brindaban and beyond. It
will make your little Americano dagoba temple in hicksville Texas-land
look like an ant hill.

All the Dasanami Shanks will be at the WTB grand opening to learn TM
and get their mantra, even the Kanchi Shank and the Depakage, each
vying for a place to sit on the floor up close and to be first to give
their flower and get the Holy Darshan of the Shankacharya Basudevanand
of Jyotirmath and hear the six hour discourse by the Mahesh Yogi who
will be given the title of JAGGADGURU JAGADISHA BUDDHA by the
victorious Natural Law Party Presidential candidate who will perform
the introduction ceremonies along with Tony Nader, Regis Philbin, and
the entire Spurs basketball team, all avid TMers chanting 'Maha! Maha!

Then your Shank 'o Pretend can SEE the High Chair all the way from his
softy SEAT at the Dwark pad and watch the festivities on MOU via
satellite. And one, two, yes! This newsgroup has been cleared.

High chair indeed!

- willytex (the idiot babbling tantric finger-lickin' navel gazer in
Lot 49)


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steve_...@my-deja.com

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Hello willytex
Namaste
Deepest Respects

Most politely, you say...'the Depakage, each


> vying for a place to sit on the floor up close and to be first to give
> their flower and get the Holy Darshan of the Shankacharya Basudevanand
> of Jyotirmath and hear the six hour discourse by the Mahesh Yogi who
> will be given the title of JAGGADGURU JAGADISHA BUDDHA by the
> victorious Natural Law Party Presidential candidate who will perform
> the introduction ceremonies along with Tony Nader, Regis Philbin, and
> the entire Spurs basketball team, all avid TMers chanting 'Maha! Maha!
>

Is that Regis Philbin, w/wo Kathy Lee? (I'd be really disappointed, if
Regis attended without Kathy Lee).
If Kathy Lee comes; does she bring Frank?
Should Frank be allowed to come without the "Flight Attendant"?
If Frank and "flight attendant" come, does the camera crew from Star-
(the supermarket tabloid), attend also?

Then there is the rivalary of Kathy Lee/Regis v. Oprah Winfrey, to
consider. If "deepakage" is there, you know "Oprah" has to attend.

Oprah v. Kathy Lee (deepakage will referee, substituting for Mills
Lane).
Celebrity Deathmatch 2000, all the TM-er's chanting 'MahaOprah!
Mahaoprah! 'MahaOprah!

The San Antionio Spurs accompanied by the, "Laker Girls" (half-naked),
arousing vasudevananda to a frenzied state sensual excitement, that he,
inadvertanly accepts the nomination of The Natural Law Party.

Renouncing the High Chair (Fisher-Price) and the golden Binky; then
immediately accepts Ross Perot as his, VP running mate.

AS The calm returns to the ceremony, after several hours of frenzied
excitement and merriment.
Vasudevananda realizes his mistake and nominates, Tony Robbins as
presidential candidate.
Then promptly Addicates the High Chair (Fisher-Price) and Binky to,
Stuart Little:
and takes the winner of, Celebrity Deathmatch 2000- MahaOprah as his
new bride.

Kathy Lee/Frank and Regis/Ross Perot retire to a "clinic" with
Deepackage; for "Therapeutic Basti Administration". At the personal
direction of the new, Shank. Stuart Little.
The entire ordeal captured on tape by the Star camera crew. In simo-
broadcast to all the TM centers.

Thus we begin to see the re-unification of all the splintered fractions
of "Yogi Consciousness". Re-Unity Consciousness of
Deepak/vasudevananda/Tony Robbins/Regis-Kathy Lee/Frank-"flight
attendant"/Ross Perot-Refrom Party/Natural Law Party. All one in
that "process of Self-Referral" (knower-known-process of knowing).

Best Regards
Steve Perino

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willytex

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Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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On 7/28 willytex wrote
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Thread: World's Tallest Dagoba
<snip>

"The Indian Tmers will rise and construct the WTB in 108 months right
in the middle of Arya Bharat in honor of the Great Guru Dev. The WTB
will be entirely built according to Vaastu Shastra and thousands of
yogic phlying PUNDITS will be inside with the chanting and the yagyas
radiating absolute coherence all the way to Brindaban and beyond. It
will make your little Americano dagoba temple in hicksville Texas-land
look like an ant hill."

On 7/28 Steve Perino wrote
<snip>
"Is that Regis Philbin w/wo Kathy Lee?"
<snip>


"If 'deepakage' is there, you know 'Oprah' has to attend."

<snip>

SteveP - You loco? You know that Kathy Lee and Regis are splintsville,
as in breakup, Senor! As for the Deepakage, you are probably right, but
I am not 100% sure the Deepakage would really show up at the Grand
Opening of the MMY-WTB Guru Dev Dagoba. I like your idea about the re-
unification of all the splintered fractions of 'Yogi Consciousness.'
But exactly what would these be? Huh? Nothing like a good public works
project to pull people together!

Since you seem to be interested in Buddhist Temples, here are some
examples of famous Indian Dagobas that I have visited, all built
according to Stapathya Veda Vaastu Shastra:

Sun Temple at Konarka, Orissa.
The Taj Mahal, Agra.
Prashanti Nilyam, Puttaparthi.
Shri Ram temple at Bhadrachalam, Andhra Pradesh.
The temple of Lord Sri Venkateshwara at Tirupati.
Lord Visweshwara temple at Benaras.
Shri Varda Raja Temple, Kanchi.
Temple of Kanaka Durga, Vijaywada.
Temple of Goddess Annapurna, Benaras.
Vivekananda Rock Memorial, Cape Camorin.
Sravana Belgola, Karnataka.
Ramakrishna Mission, Belur.

Since you seem to be interested in Vastu and Dagobas you might enjoy
the folowing titles here on my desk:

"The Pelican History of Art"
The Art and Architecture of India Buddhist-Hindu-Jain.
by Benjamin Rowland
The standard text on Indian Archtecture for many years. Illustrated.
Index. Paper.

"Psycho-cosmic Symbolism of the Buddhist Stupa"
by Lama Anagarika Govinda
Dharma Publishing
Definitive study of Buddhist stupa architecture by a spiritual pilgrim
who travelled in Tibet. Paper.

"Symbolism of the Stupa"
by Adrian Snodgrass
A rare gem for the student of Vastu! Hardcover.

"Handbook of Vastu"
by Niranjian Babu
Paper.

"The Hindu Temple"
by George Mitchell
Paper.

New Dimensions in Vaastu
by V. Guntuni
Paper.

"Mayamata"
New and Revised Edition.
Translation by Dr. Bruno Dagens
Holy Vaastu Shastra, a treatise on edifice architecture, which deals
with all facets of god's and man's dwellings. (2 Vol) Hardcover.

The Manasara Series on Vaastu Shastra
by Prasnna Kumar Acharya
By far the most comprehensive series available on Hindu architecture.
(7 Vol) Hardcover.

- willytex

steve_...@my-deja.com

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Hello willytex
Namaste
Deepest Respects

Most politely you say...."The WTB will be entirely built according to


Vaastu Shastra and thousands of yogic phlying PUNDITS will be inside

with the chanting and the yagyas radiating absolute coherence"..;
thereby the re-unification of all the splintered fractions of 'Yogi
Consciousness, can dispell all darkness.

The Council of The Tribes; led by Regis Philbin and company will herald
a new "Age of Enlightenment", where all people can enjoy absoute
coherence and re-unification of "Yogi Consciousness".
At a significantly reduced rate. Nothing down a little less each month!

World Peace; Perfect Health; phlying in spiritual sky.

> But exactly what would these be? Huh? Nothing like a good public works

> project to pull people together! See above.

best Regards
Steve


In article <8lv7op$mh0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
willytex <will...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 7/28 willytex wrote
> Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental


> Thread: World's Tallest Dagoba
> <snip>

> "The Indian Tmers will rise and construct the WTB in 108 months right
> in the middle of Arya Bharat in honor of the Great Guru Dev. The WTB
> will be entirely built according to Vaastu Shastra and thousands of
> yogic phlying PUNDITS will be inside with the chanting and the yagyas
> radiating absolute coherence all the way to Brindaban and beyond. It
> will make your little Americano dagoba temple in hicksville Texas-land
> look like an ant hill."
>

> On 7/28 Steve Perino wrote
> <snip>
> "Is that Regis Philbin w/wo Kathy Lee?"
> <snip>

> "If 'deepakage' is there, you know 'Oprah' has to attend."

willytex

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On 7/30 Steve Perino wrote

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Thread: World's Tallest Dagoba
<snip>"At a significantly reduced rate. Nothing down, a little less
each month! World Peace; Perfect Health; phlying in the spiritual sky."
<snip>

SteveP - I am glad to see that your are finally coming around to my
shamanistic TMer-Buddh point of view! Soul talk, spiritual sky,
celestial gods, ecstatic chanting, and Buddh avatars. Thanks for the
interest in Natural Geomancy and my plans to build the Worlds Tallest
Dagoba in memory of my Guru Deva. Anyway, now that you are obviously
reading western writers again, you should know that all traditional
cultures have their own system of geomancy.

Geomancy is a way of knowing the earth. There are many solutions that
nature has provided in the way of housing. Cocoons, shells, webs, nests
and dens are but a few examples of natural geomancy. Thus, geomancy is
inherent and vital to survival. In human society, geomancy is a part of
our animal heritage and the result of continuing improvement in human
dwelling construction.

People have always developed shelters and homes in concert with nature.
Tree houses, caves, cliff dwellings, and commanding views are some
examples of universal geomancy. Geomancy is at least half a million
years old, dating from early Homo Sapiens. Sculptures of 'Venus' dating
from 30,000 to 25,000 B.C.E. were placed in small wall recesses in
homes, in order to insure vitality and abundance.

Geomancy can be defined as 'The skillfull use of the best available
knowledge in order to create the most suitable conditions for living
and working.' (T. Lin Yun). Geomancy involves the awareness of the ways
construction, orientation, and placement affect our environment and
thus our own daily activities and relations.

More than 12,000 years ago, conditions of the Ice Age led humans toward
an interiorization of conciousness and an inward reflection. Thus began
the proto-history of shamanism, yoga and the wisdom arts. Beginning
about 8,000 years ago, shamanism spread over North Asia, possibly from
Siberia into North Asia and North America. The growth of tribes,
followed by the establisment of tribal centers, both based on the
shamistic ridge pole (meru) or world tree, (bodhi) then led to the
modern systems of geomancy as we know it, such as town and domestic
planning.

By 6,000 B.C.E. the art of geomacy resulted in the megalith and mound
culture and by 3,000 B.C.E. we see city states emerge, of which the
Vedic Indus Valley Civilization, with it's planned city streets, being
a prime example. The sophisticated art of Vedic Geomancy has been
preserved in the Atharva Veda and Mayamata Upanishad. During the
Buddhist period, the science of edifice architecture or Vaastu was
developed, resulting in modern Stapathya Ved and Asian Feng Shui.
Througout the history of geomancy, the science has been intimately
connected with meditation because our dwellings have traditionally been
our temple or home of the sacred hearth, worthy of worship. (Stephen
Post, 'The Modern Book of Feng Shui, 1998)

IMO it is possible that the earlist use of human geomancy in relation
to human dwelling was the controlled use of fire. Contrary to popular
opinion, it is quite possible that ancient man invented human geomancy
through the ritual use and placement of fire in his dwelling.
Apparently, the first use of fire by man was not for warmth nor for
cooking his food, but instead, fire was placed in the hearth as a
fetish or symbolic geomantic gadget for use in mental energetics.

Additional resources on Feng Shui can be obtained from Tom Bender who
has been applying Feng Shui to design work since the early 1970's. The
text of his most recent book - BUILDING WITH NATURE - which covers the
use of energetics for sustainable architecture is available on his
website:
http://www.knsi.com/~tbender/

- willytex

steve_...@my-deja.com

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Hello willytex

Namaste
Deepest Respects

Most politely, you say..."> SteveP - I am glad to see that your are


finally coming around to my shamanistic TMer-Buddh point of view! Soul
talk, spiritual sky, celestial gods,"

You assume facts not in evidence! I am just humoring po wilytex as the
Professor/Dr. Geoff from the UK; whom posted friday past,and blew off
your "doctoral thesis". The same Prof. Geoff who was (looking for Ms.
Judy to cite examples of Shree Swami Guru Devaji teaching TM).

<snip> "Thus, geomancy is> inherent and vital to survival. In human


society, geomancy is a part of our animal heritage"

Leave me out of this!
God only knows; just what the heck goes on between you and those
armadillos, in the "measal patch".
When Steve Ralph said "fly the armadillo". He meant fly, not f*ck!
Willytex stop with the TM/Shamanic Beast humping!


I see both of you too idiots, could not come up with an intelligent
succinct responce, to the Prof Geoff! The same two idiots whom cited;
www.kamakoti.org and quoted a Sanyasi Mahatma, then tried to say it
was Shree Adi Shankara.

get a clue!

Best Regards
Steve Perino

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steve_...@my-deja.com

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Hello willytex
namaste
Deepest Respects

Most politely you say..." <snip>> the proto-history of shamanism, yoga


and the wisdom arts. Beginning about 8,000 years ago, shamanism spread
over North Asia, possibly from
Siberia into North Asia and North America. The growth of tribes,
> followed by the establisment of tribal centers, both based on the

> shamistic ridge pole (meru) or world tree,...."

Now; I remember what you are referring to.
You are part of that group: whom used to gather up on Thursday
Mountain, on the Soltice and Equinox, (whenever it felt "good').

In the: Shamanic; chanting circle/sweat lodge/wiccan temple/circle of
broken limestone- Fires burning, beating drums, Sterling Mens Group.
"All humorously referred to as "Psychic Mud-drumming" or "getting in
touch, with whatever?"

I heard the adjoining property owners made a nuisance complaint; to the
Hays County Sheriff, and shut it down.

Now I understand the roots of your animosity toward; "The Dham" and
coupled with the lack of recognition for "Yogi" and your infantile
emotional attachment. It has become clear to me the depths of
willytex's anger.

Best Regards
Steve Perino

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willytex

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On 7/31 Steve Perino wrote
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Thread: Natural Loonacy/wiyytex
<snip

"Leave me out of this!"
<snip>

SteveP - Hello? Do you mean you want to be left out of human placement?
Huh? If you are going to post, would it be to much to ask that you make
sense? Amazing remarks from an adult!

willytex

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On 7/31 Steve Perino wrote
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Thread: Natural Geomancy/Psychic mud-drumming
<snip>

"Now I understand the roots of your animosity toward; 'The Dham' and
coupled with the lack of recognition for 'Yogi' and your infantile
emotional attachment. It has become clear to me the depths of
willytex's anger."
<snip>

SteveP- I have no animosity to the 'Dham' and I am not angry. Infantile
attachment to the Yogi, maybe. However, it is obvious by your post that
you have no idea what Shamanism is, much less Geomancy. I have prepared
a little post for you, since you obviously have not read a book since
High School, that is, except for TV Guide! INDIA IS REPLETE WITH
SHAMANISTIC PRACTICES. You might consider the following.

- willytex

Indian Bhakti Elements of Shamanism

1) Induced ecstasy through chanting (enstasis)
2) Recovery of lost souls (multiple jivas)
3) Flight to the Spiritual Sky (Vaikuntha - Bramha Loka)
4) Use of the magical druum (damaru and mrdanga)
6) Shaman as as Pshchopomp (Sri Krisna Chaitanya)
7) The cosmic mountain as axis mundi (Meru, Govardhan)

"The Brahmanic sacrificer mounts to heaven by ritually climbing a
ladder; the Buddha transcends the cosmos by symbolically traversing the
seven heavens; the Buddhist yogin, through meditation, realizes an
ascent whose nature is completely spiritual. Typologically, all these
acts share the same structure; each on its own plane indicates a
particular way of transcending the profane world and attaining to the
world of the gods, or Being, or the Absolute. We have shown above to
what extent such acts can be classified under the shamanic tradition of
ascent to the sky; the one great difference lies in the intensity of the
shamanic experience, which, as we have seen, includes ecstasy and
trance. But ancient India, too, knows the ecstasy that makes ascension
and magical flight possible. The long-haired (kegin) 'ecstatic' (muni)
of the Rig-Veda declares in so many words: 'Exhilarated by the sanctity
of the Muni we have mounted upon the wind; behold, mortals, (in them)
our forms! . . . The steed of the wind, the friend of Vayu, the Muni is
instigated by the deity.'

Nevertheless, calling back the patient's fugitive soul is documented in
a book of the Rig-Veda and as the same shamanic ideology and technique
dominate the non-Aryan peoples of India, the question arises if an
influence from the substratum may not be assumed. The magician of the
Oraon in Bengal also seeks the patient's strayed soul through mountains
and rivers and on into the land of the dead exactly like the Altaic and
Siberian shamans. Nor is this all. Ancient India knows the doctrine of
the soul's instability, which is so marked a feature in the various
cultures dominated by shamanism.

As among so many other Asian peoples, these beliefs show traces of a
plurality of souls. But in general, ancient India believed that, after
death, the soul went up to heaven, into the presence of Yama (King of
the Dead) and the ancestors (pitaras). The dead man was counseled not to
be deterred by Yama's four-eyed dogs and to continue on his way, that he
might reach the ancestors and the god Yama."

- Mircea Elliade

willytex

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On 7/31/2000 Steve Perino wrote
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Thread: Bhakti Shamanism
On 7/30 willytex wrote
<snip>

> Indian Bhakti Elements of Shamanism

> 1) Induced ecstasy through chanting (enstasis)
> 2) Recovery of lost souls (multiple jivas)
> 3) Flight to the Spiritual Sky (Vaikuntha - Bramha Loka)
> 4) Use of the magical druum (damaru and mrdanga)
> 6) Shaman as as Pshchopomp (Sri Krisna Chaitanya)
> 7) The cosmic mountain as axis mundi (Meru, Govardhan)

<snip>

"Now I remember what you are referring to. You are part of that group
whom used to gather up on Thursday Mountain, on the Soltice and

Equinox."
<snip>

Stevebaloni - No Steve, I am referring to that arm-upliftin' cult group
whom gathers up on Friday Mountain just outside Austin on the Solstice
and Equinox to beat their little magic mrdanga drum, chant to induce
ecstasy, who attempt to recover 'lost souls' in flights to the
Spiritual Sky and who follow the fallen Buddhist Shaman Sri Krisna
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, the psychopomp who lifted up the cosmic mountain
as axis mundi, that is, Mount Govardan.

Like I said: You are a confused fallen Buddh psuedo-bhakti shaman, two-
steppin' babblin' leela-Radhavada, time travellin' householdin' punk
burner, not a PUNDIT.

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