(and does the answer to this question depend on whether I plan to use the
machine in Iowa anytime in the forseeable future...)
It is, in fact, both stupid *and* dumb. In order to make any
machine as slow and useless as a Mac, one needs genuine
Apple 32-bit-dirty ROMs (no you can't get them at the adult
bookstore, I mean really, when Apple gets obscene they do
it with class and expense!) Windows is useless of course,
and very very slow, but a good compact Mac with 1M RAM has
it beat every time.
>(and does the answer to this question depend on whether I plan to use the
>machine in Iowa anytime in the forseeable future...)
No.
Melissa Reid
mr...@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
Does anyone know of any nice cheap apartments for rent NOW in Iowa City?
This is NOT acceptable in Iowa. They have to run Windows on a 4.77 Mhz PC
for it to be slow enough for them. They are also amazed by the blinding
speed of the Mac Plus!!!
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>I just put Windows on my nice fast IBMish machine in an effort to make
>it as slow and useless as a Mac. Is this stupid or dumb?
Neither. Placing Spam on the monitor would be dumb. Placing your backups
on the same monitor would be stupid. Placing windows on that monitor is not
recommended, it's a tad misguided, and a little silly.
>(and does the answer to this question depend on whether I plan to use the
>machine in Iowa anytime in the forseeable future...)
Only if you oppose the drug testing of nuclear whales.
--
God I made it this far.....
Spam.
I like Spam.
> Placing your backups
>on the same monitor would be stupid. Placing windows on that monitor is not
>recommended, it's a tad misguided, and a little silly.
I guess venetian blinds would be entirely out of the question then...
Well, all in all, this was a pretty stupid AND dumb thing to do.
Or rather, it was pretty dumb and stupid beacuse of what you didn't
do.
Put UNIX on the blessed PC instead of Windows. Shit, I mean at least
you can use Windows, but try to even get a directory with Unix and you'll
rip your face off and shove up yer' bum through frustration.
Although this reply should reall go in alt.unix.sux.shit , I thought
it was a good answer to your question.
As for the question about location, Unix is as much of a bastard to use in
Iowa, as it is in Australia (Where I am writng this on a terminal connected
to a VAX 3200 running guess what...Unix!!!)
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From SillyBugger..."Why be sensible when you can be really, really stupid?"
What you have done is both stupid or dumb, because Windows should not be
the spastic environment of choice.
If you have a 286 or higher, see if you can get a hold of Xenix, or connect
up to a mainframe running Unix. I feel Unix is the only true user-degrading,
intelligence insulting, totally retarded operating system left today.
From SiilyBugger Oz.
?
Give Unix a go. I'm sure you'll find it more horrible and slow to use than
Windows, or any Macintosh.
Guaranteed.
I hate unix, too. Whoever designed it gets my vote as the stupidest
person of the century.
Quack.
Oh, sorry. Wrong posting.
Anyway, puttin unix on a Mac (especially a Mac II) makes it tons easier
to work with because there are lots less to worry about
But the language is still the same. You can't have everything.
On a Mac, taking a nice break, very easily, from my paper, due in about
14 hours...
Not SueBear.
"Let not the sands of time get in your lunch."
-Uncl Rusfuk.
.sigs are for the weak.
You are definately posting to the right news group if you
can't even get a directory listing!
What are you? A DOS hack? Hahahahahaha....
>As for the question about location, Unix is as much of a bastard to use in
>Iowa, as it is in Australia (Where I am writng this on a terminal connected
>to a VAX 3200 running guess what...Unix!!!)
Now you are being doubley stupid. The VAX architecture is best
suited for VMS, not UNIX. Why waste a CISC architecture like that?
BTW, what flavor of UNIX are you denigrating? BSD I take it? Or are
you using that godawful excuse for a UNIX clone, EUNICE?
-Russ
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Just out of curiosity, what's your favorite OS? Can it do
pipelining and seperate redirections of standard output AND standard
error?
Just curious.
*sigh* I think I've found your problem.
bucsf [~]% f mtr...@loki.une.oz.au
[loki.une.oz.au]
Trying 129.180.129.1...
Login name: mtraini In real life: Traini Mathew
Directory: /usr/users/students/mtraini Shell: /usr/bin/ksh
Last login Fri May 17 16:30 on tty24 from SERV08
No Plan.
bucsf [~]%
You're using KSH for godsake! Try a real shell like TCSH! The
problem isn't the OS, its the user interface into that OS.
bucsf [~]% man -k ksh
ksh, rksh (1) - korn shell, standard/restricted command language
bucsf [~]% man -k tcsh
tcsh (1) - C shell with file name completion and command line edit
ing
bucsf [~]%
At the very least use CSH.
bucsf [~]% man -k csh
csh (1) - C shell command language
bucsf [~]%
Hope this helps!
Aw, Russ. That was a beautiful thing you did for this guy. Sniff.
Greg
Thanx. I just feel that people don't take enough time nowadays
to explain things to novices...
You must not have been to an IBM site lately. :)
It's true...Unix can't eat up you system resources with no
USABLE results like OS/2, the errors aren't as creatively
cryptic as MVS (NO that is not a typo of VMS!!! I like DEC <gasp>)
it has all that nasty stuff like stopping users from writing
into other users program memory (unlike GUARDIAN), and it actually
requires that the user has functional brain cells (unlike MS-DOS).
Apart from these drawbacks, it's a pretty neat OS.
OB-Rambling
It's really too bad that these dime-store computer 'experts'
actually have to learn about computers now that PC's have a
real OS on them. I was just getting used to hearing $100k/yr
computer programmers telling me how thier single user PC could
run rings around a VAX785 and how the only REAL network was
Novell and that any machine that couldn't write DOS format
diskettes belonged in the dustbin.
(Nice to know that there's justice in the world!)
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Ever heard of SUN Microsystems? How about Xwindows? Hmmmmm....
I guess somebody's been keeping you locked in a basement with
an old PDP-11 or something.
Typing to you from window number 7 of a graphics workstation
designed to run ONLY with a UNIX host. (btw...I'ld be willing to bet
that this terminal has more processing power than your PC. <nyah!>)
:)
"7 out of 10 dead bunnies prefer UNIX."
- Dead Bunny Digest Apr91
:-) Actually, AIX is a pretty good operating system. What with
logically bound volume groups whos attributes can be changed on the fly
and loadable device drivers and all... I admit the user interface is a
little crufty though.
>It's true...Unix can't eat up you system resources with no
>USABLE results like OS/2,
Unfortunatley, I haven't hacked any OS/2. From what I've heard,
its a real fun time :-)
>the errors aren't as creatively
>cryptic as MVS (NO that is not a typo of VMS!!! I like DEC <gasp>)
So do I. The only problem I have with DEC is their proprietary-ism
(what the hell word am I looking for..?) Hardware-wise they've been
getting better since the introduction of the vt1000 series and beyond.
Software-wise, they've got a little ways to go. But you won't find a
more secure OS. And the user interface is in English! Ie: if you want
do a backup, type "backup".
>OB-Rambling
>It's really too bad that these dime-store computer 'experts'
>actually have to learn about computers now that PC's have a
>real OS on them.
Hehehehehe... I agree. I wish more people (read: "programmers")
would learn more about their architectures and hardware configs, not
just for PCs but for servers and client workstations as well.
>I was just getting used to hearing $100k/yr
>computer programmers telling me how thier single user PC could
>run rings around a VAX785 and how the only REAL network was
>Novell and that any machine that couldn't write DOS format
>diskettes belonged in the dustbin.
I still think DOS has a lot of nerve calling itself an OS :-)
-Russ
P.S. - What the hell is this doing in alt.stupidity?
Ouch!
>Typing to you from window number 7 of a graphics workstation
>designed to run ONLY with a UNIX host. (btw...I'ld be willing to bet
>that this terminal has more processing power than your PC. <nyah!>)
Typing to you from window 4 of a Sun 3/50 running X11R4 using the
Motif window manager with a nifty picture of a full moon in the background
and UNIX, VMS and AIX applications/clients all fired up at the same time...
-Russ
fe
fi
fo
fodder!
I just got me a new sun sparcstation II (color) this morning. If you
have the grant, I suggest getting one. Too bad I only use it for
reading newsgroups.
Greg
p.s. I have an AST 386 at home; It's really fun to play gauntlet II on,
but not much else.
>>I was just getting used to hearing $100k/yr
>>computer programmers telling me how thier single user PC could
>>run rings around a VAX785 and how the only REAL network was
>>Novell and that any machine that couldn't write DOS format
>>diskettes belonged in the dustbin.
> I still think DOS has a lot of nerve calling itself an OS :-)
Not only has it a lot of nerve it is a blatant lie....
> -Russ
> P.S. - What the hell is this doing in alt.stupidity?
Because it is really stupid?????
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Disclaimer: Any spelling mistakes in this article are all entirly my
Do people really make that much out there? Geez, maybe I should
relocate. Hey Russ? What's Boston like this time of year?
Greg
p.s. Are lutefish the ones that you let rot underground for a week
before eating them with schnapps? If you ask me, that's really dumb.
Well, I'm a Senior Operator here and I pulled in a smooth
$253,197.13 last year after taxes. But everything is so damned
expensive here...
|>Geez, maybe I should
|>relocate. Hey Russ? What's Boston like this time of year?
Very nice. The rapists have all gone south to follow in the
Kennedy family tradition, the murderers have all followed the rapists
and the weather, well, the weather is.... Hang on a sec, lets check
the weather!
buit26 [~]% f wea...@synoptic.mit.edu | more
[synoptic.mit.edu]
[WEATHER] DATA last logged in 17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00.
DATA has no new mail.
Plan:
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* *
* Boston Area Weather Information *
* by the *
* Center for Meteorology and Physical Oceanography *
* *
* *
* NOTE: We understand some have been having difficulty sending mail to *
* the old published EMAIL address. Try sending mail in the future to *
* *
* nei...@synoptic.mit.edu *
* *
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Last update time: 24-MAY-1991 15:10:22.95 EDT
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* Latest weather conditions *
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The weather observed at Logan Airport at 02:50 PM EDT was:
The skies were mostly covered with thin clouds.
Temperature: 89F (32C) Dewpoint: 62F (17C) Relative Humidity: 41%
Winds: W (260 degs) at 19mph gusting to 24mph.
Pressure: 1013.9 millibars (29.94 inches of mercury) and falling.
Visibility: 10.0 miles.
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[rest of the weather forecast deleted]
Oh my! The weather is beautiful! I'm outa here!
-Russ
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[JAVEL : gbolcer]==> rlogin pi...@huntington.beach
SunOS Release 4.1.1 (SS-COLOR-SCSI) #1: Wed May 22 10:59:01 PDT 1991
This system (pier) is for use by NSF researchers. If you are not
in the NSF group and would like to use it, please contact the NSF
Project Director.
TERM = (wyse99) xterm
Welcome to the National Weather Survey and Oceanographic Forcasting
Center's on-line computing resource center.
Last update time: 24-MAY-1991 15:10:22.95 EDT
Execute Which Program?
>> oceanic -report surf
Usage: oceanic [-acfrplx] f1 ... fn
>> oceanic -r surf -a oc
THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AS OF Fri May 24 13:53:43 PDT 1991 ARE AS FOLLOWS:
AREAS CHECKED IN: SAN CLEMENTE
NEWPORT
HUNTINGTON
BALBOA
LAGUNA
LONG BEACH
SALT CREEK
CURRENT WIND CONDITIONS ARE: SOUTH-EAST ACROSS THE DESERT GUSTING 2-3 KNOTS
CURRENT SWELL CONDITIONS ARE: SOUTH-WEST GENERATED FROM RIM
OUTSIDE SWELL SIZE 5-8 FT, SMALL CRAFT WARNING FROM POINT
CONCEPTION TO THE MEXICAN BORDER.
INSIDE SWELL CONDITIONS 6-9 FT, YELLOW FLAG ALL SOUTH FACING
BEACHES.
CURRENT EROSION:
EL NINO WATER AVERAGE (DOWN 2F) FROM 1990
SAND:
YEAR TO DATE IN METRIC TONS (^C^C^C
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I've seen enough. That's it. I'm outta here too.
Greg
So anyway, two lutefisk go into a bar and order a beer. As they are drinking
they notice the next patron at the bar pointing them out to his friend and
snickering. They get very upset, and ask the guy what it is that he finds so
amusing. The guy answers that he's not laughing at them, but at the guy
further down the bar with a duck on his head.
The guy goes on to explain that he has just cut the brakeline on the duck
guy's car and that he will probably wrap himself around a tree on his way
home. The guy with the duck on his head, Bob, does not hear this excahange,
for he is involved in an inane conversation about hockey with someone else.
The duck does overhear, though, and decides to himself that he will fly off
of Bob,s head as soon as he gets outside rather than risk the ride home
without brakes.
Just thought I'd take care of a few loose ends...
Typing ? You meen that you need a, a, ... hmm oh: Keyboard ???
Speaking to my Atari TT workstation with 4 RISC processors, running 2 virtual
UNIX systems, 7 80486 emulations, 3 virtual VMS systems and even one MULTICS,
(They never got it working, but a AI-OS-generator running in background fixed
it)
Welcome back to Alt.stupidity !
Good Old Alf
BTW who needs .sig ?
Typing ? You meen that you need a, a, ... hmm oh: Keyboard ???
Speaking to my Atari TT workstation with 4 RISC processors, running 2 virtual
UNIX systems, 7 80486 emulations, 3 virtual VMS systems and even one MULTICS,
(They never got it working, but a AI-OS-generator running in background fixed
it)
This post is so stupid that even *I* cannot understand it.
So, I guess I'll feed it to the tode........
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Plan:
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| Giant Death and/or | / . . \ <-- adiabatic air intake
| Glory Toad, Mark I | /\/ \___/ \/\ <-- nuclear powered tongue
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Nah, it should be sown up as soon as possible. Personally, I can't
stand such loose ends.
cgi...@gara.une.oz.au | Boom boom aka laka laka boom,
Christian Girard | boom boom aka laka boom boom.
UNE, Armidale, NSW, Australia |
I heard this one on alt.stupidity:
Two lutefisk walk into a bar...<bump> <bump>
you think the second would have avoided it.
Greg
>OK. This is a brand new thread. Can't wait for followups...
a new threed? A new threed of what? It looks like it might be Nylon but
you never know it may be pink green fish pushed through a large purple
washing machine machine.
Happy frogs are happier with the colour of the green bits.
Zonk wimple hogs wash and relativly zingle flurgs
ZZZZZZzzzzzxxxx......
Have fun
Greg
Nahhhh, he just has some amazingly stupid employers, they will hire
anyone, I mean just look at Russ. Wombles are nice. I think he sould let
us in on the name of his employer just so that we can all go and work
there too.
David.
[DDT] Pink fish forever.
No! Its not true! I'm stupid I tell ya!
|>Nahhhh, he just has some amazingly stupid employers, they will hire
|>anyone, I mean just look at Russ.
Ya! What he said!
|>Wombles are nice.
They sure are... What are Wombles...?
|>I think he sould let
|>us in on the name of his employer just so that we can all go and work
|>there too.
For fear of retribution, I can't. Don't look at the Organization:
line in the header either.
>gbo...@javel.ICS.UCI.EDU (Gregory Alan Bolcer) writes:
>> >
>> > Well, I'm a Senior Operator here and I pulled in a smooth
>> > $253,197.13 last year after taxes. But everything is so damned
>> > expensive here...
>> >
>>How many people think Russ is actually smart and probably has a couple
>>graduate degrees from a couple of various respected eastern colleges and
>>just pretends to be stoopid just to hang out with us?
>Nahhhh, he just has some amazingly stupid employers, they will hire
>anyone, I mean just look at Russ. Wombles are nice. I think he sould let
>us in on the name of his employer just so that we can all go and work
>there too.
Actually, they just pay Russ not to touch the equipment. Its a bargain.
--
-catt (Scott Cattanach - ca...@uiuc.edu)
"Sometimes a scream is better than a thesis"
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Who wrote what...?
|>>> >
|>>> > Well, I'm a Senior Operator here and I pulled in a smooth
|>>> > $253,197.13 last year after taxes. But everything is so damned
|>>> > expensive here...
|>>> >
|>>>How many people think Russ is actually smart and probably has a couple
|>>>graduate degrees from a couple of various respected eastern colleges and
|>>>just pretends to be stoopid just to hang out with us?
|>
|>
|>>Nahhhh, he just has some amazingly stupid employers, they will hire
|>>anyone, I mean just look at Russ. Wombles are nice. I think he sould let
|>>us in on the name of his employer just so that we can all go and work
|>>there too.
|>
|>Actually, they just pay Russ not to touch the equipment. Its a bargain.
Hi Scott! What the hell do you mean...?