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# TED/SUSAN PRACTICES AWFUL PROTESTANT OATHS!

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William Suzanne

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Jan 12, 2003, 5:49:50 PM1/12/03
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Isn't it amazing that mad ravings about a Protestant propoganda
created "Jesuit Oath" are non-stop and used to accuse innocent
newgroups posters of awful crimes? This is done to hide the acting
out of real, historically documented Protestant oaths; notice the
plural, because there is more than one. They devilishly make up a
false Catholic oath to hide the Protestant ones! Transvestite
Ted/Susan Williams has proven this oath is still practiced by their
ramblings on USENET.

Although they are meant to be anti-Catholic, they were also intended
to take away rights of ALL who were not Protestant Christians. It
forced people to be Protestant in order to have rights!!

Very frightening is the fact they were freely used by Protestants in
the U.S. so they could subdue non-Protestansts. In the South, it was
used well into the 19th century to keep Jews from voting. Is this not
hate and contempt for the American Constitution and its principles? It
is well known these anti-democracy oaths were meant to keep American
Natives, black slaves, and non-English European immigrants in a
sub-human status by not allowing them to vote, hold a democratic
office, etc.

Below is a copy of one of the oaths, "The Secret Oath of the American
Protective Association"

The American Protective Association was one of the largest and most
powerful anti-Catholic organizations of the late nineteenth century,
claiming more than a million members by 1896. Taking its cue and
beliefs from anti-Catholic biases perpetuated in Europe as a nativist
response to the large numbers of immigrants from Catholic countries
and SPREAD RUMORS that Catholics intended to slaughter non-Catholics
and that Catholic elected officials discriminated against non-Catholic
job applicants and citizens.*

THE OATH
"I do most solemnly promise and swear that I will always, to the
utmost of my ability, labor, plead, and wage a continuous warfare
against...the Roman Catholic Church...priest-ridden and
church-oppressed people; that I will never allow anyone, a member of
the Roman Catholic Church, to become a member of this order, I knowing
him to be such; that I will use my influence to promote the interest
of all Protestants everywhere in the world that I may be; that I will
not employ a Roman Catholic in any capacity, if I can procure the
services of a Protestant. I furthermore promise and swear that I will
not aid in building or maintaining, by my resources, any Roman
Catholic church or institution of their sect or creed whatsoever, but
will do all in my power to RETARD AND BREAK DOWN THE POWER OF THE
POPE, in this country or any other; that I will not enter into any
controversy with a Roman Catholic upon the subject of this order, nor
will I enter into any agreement with a Roman Catholic to strike or
create a disturbance whereby the Catholic employees may undermine and
substitute their Protestant co-workers; that in all grievances I will
seek only Protestants, and counsel with them to the exclusion of all
Roman Catholics, and will not make known to them anything of any
nature matured at such conferences. I furthermore promise and swear
that I will not countenance the nomination, in any caucus or
convention, of a Roman Catholic for any office in the gift of the
American people, and that I will not vote for, or counsel others to
vote for, any Roman Catholic, but will vote only for a Protestant, so
far as may lie in my power (should there be two Roman Catholics in
opposite tickets, I will erase the name on the ticket I vote); that I
will at all times endeavor to place the political positions of this
government in the hands of Protestants, to the entire exclusion of the
Roman Catholic Church, of the members thereof, and the mandate of the
Pope. To all of which I do most solemnly promise and swear, so help me
God. Amen."

*From Documents of American Catholic History ed. T. Ellis, (Wilmington
DE: Michael Glazier, Inc., 1956), 500-501. A Bruce Publishing Company.

Norma

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Jan 12, 2003, 6:15:24 PM1/12/03
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"William Suzanne" <WilSu...@rock.com> wrote in message
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> Isn't it amazing that mad ravings about a Protestant propoganda
> created "Jesuit Oath" are non-stop and used to accuse innocent
> newgroups posters of awful crimes? This is done to hide the acting
> out of real, historically documented Protestant oaths; notice the
> plural, because there is more than one. They devilishly make up a
> false Catholic oath to hide the Protestant ones! Transvestite
> Ted/Susan Williams has proven this oath is still practiced by their
> ramblings on USENET.
>
> Although they are meant to be anti-Catholic, they were also intended
> to take away rights of ALL who were not Protestant Christians. It
> forced people to be Protestant in order to have rights!!


This has caused some of us concern and wonder since the posting started
coming to a non-Christian forum. I think I see the reason for the "we"
statements from your post. I am not at all interested in the content and
purpose of the thread, but would like to see them get the assistance they
need to live through whatever turmoil is being faced.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to trim the Jewish group off the Newsgroups
list. That would be a real kindness to everyone. Thank you. Norma

Susan Williams

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Jan 13, 2003, 1:52:50 AM1/13/03
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On 12 Jan 2003 14:49:50 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
wrote:

>Isn't it amazing that mad ravings about a Protestant propoganda
>created "Jesuit Oath" are non-stop and used to accuse innocent
>newgroups posters of awful crimes?

Are those the "innocent" newsgroups posters who watched a man condemn
liberty and the American Constitution for a long time without a
problem? Are these also the "innocent" ones who became concerned and
obeyed the Jesuit Oath when they saw a human being naturally upset
about the situation? Are these the "innocent" human beings who
watched a man condemn all non-Catholics to persecution and death but
go nuts about plagiarism to the point where they accuse good people of
being insane just because they disagree?

Are these the "innocent" people who tell us when we define anything
bad about an institution, we hate the people of that institution
before they move to define something bad about our institution?

>This is done to hide the acting
>out of real, historically documented Protestant oaths; notice the
>plural, because there is more than one.

Any follower of the Jesuit Oath would make such a statement but would
always be mentally competent enough to leave out the evidence.

>They devilishly make up a
>false Catholic oath to hide the Protestant ones!

But we can condemn the hate found in the Jesuit Oath. It is a
monstrous document and we can go line by line and ask, "WHAT
ABSOLUTELY SUPER-DAMNED SERVANTS OF SATAN CAN WRITE SUCH HATEFUL
GARBAGE!" We are not like the followers of the Jesuit Oath who lie to
us they can't condemn it for its hate because it is fake, after they
already condemn Protestant documents for hate on the grounds that they
are fake.

>Transvestite
>Ted/Susan Williams has proven this oath is still practiced by their
>ramblings on USENET.

We love you super-damned Vatican scoundrel liar William. WE LOVE YOU!

>Although they are meant to be anti-Catholic, they were also intended
>to take away rights of ALL who were not Protestant Christians. It
>forced people to be Protestant in order to have rights!!

Why would that concern you, when a man TODAY AND BOLDLY condemned all
non-Catholics to persecution and death didn't bother you?

How come when the documentation of the atrocities met your knowledge,
it didn't do anything for you, but it made the Nazis to shudder?

JUST REPEATED QUESTIONS THAT ARE DELIBERATELY IGNORED!

>Very frightening is the fact they were freely used by Protestants in
>the U.S. so they could subdue non-Protestansts.

Where is the proof of all these lies? And why didn't this killer
understand that JUST A YEAR AGO AND BOLDLY Ted Seeber condemned all
non-Catholics to persecution and death?

Here is what he omitted: the proof of my claims:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5s3n0vg73j3ij1ft2osp6jnmugum9himi7%404ax.com

If these horrible events did not bother the Vatican killer, why would
you allow him to disturb you that his killing enterprise is being
disturbed?

>In the South, it was
>used well into the 19th century to keep Jews from voting. Is this not
>hate and contempt for the American Constitution and its principles?

YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, when we have brought it to light often
that a man PLAINLY VOICED HIS CONTEMPT FOR THAT DOCUMENT and you were
only bothered when the man was benig exposed?

>It
>is well known these anti-democracy oaths were meant to keep American
>Natives, black slaves, and non-English European immigrants in a
>sub-human status by not allowing them to vote, hold a democratic
>office, etc.

Remember folks, the man tells us we must not expose atrocities, for if
we do, we automatically prove that we hate all who are members of the
institution involved!

>Below is a copy of one of the oaths, "The Secret Oath of the American
>Protective Association"
>
>The American Protective Association was one of the largest and most
>powerful anti-Catholic organizations of the late nineteenth century,
>claiming more than a million members by 1896. Taking its cue and
>beliefs from anti-Catholic biases perpetuated in Europe as a nativist
>response to the large numbers of immigrants from Catholic countries
>and SPREAD RUMORS that Catholics intended to slaughter non-Catholics
>and that Catholic elected officials discriminated against non-Catholic
>job applicants and citizens.*

This demon is concerned about RUMORS he says that Catholic intended to
slaughter non-Catholics after he already saw Ted Seeber voiced that
very intention and it didn't bother him. According to his own
deceits, he is now showing us that he hates all non-Catholics by his
his lying exposes below. Now the principle that any document being
fake makes it not necessary to comment about its hate again confirms
that deadly power that has to know how to deceive first as a
prerequisite to its killing:


So we are witnessing a man obeying the Jesuit Oath, committed to
breaking every principle he tells us we must abide by. According to
him he hates non-Catholics by exposing atrocities!

In His Grace,


Susan

Cynthia

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Jan 13, 2003, 8:49:18 AM1/13/03
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I should not have so prematurely blocked you William
You have made yourself into the perfect chalk board.

You can't shut up the truth, and it exposes liars with ease.
You are officially unplonked.
stay tuned...

~ Cindy

"Susan Williams" <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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: On 12 Jan 2003 14:49:50 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)

:
: If these horrible events did not bother the Vatican killer, why would

Alan M

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Jan 13, 2003, 7:57:32 AM1/13/03
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"Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message
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>
> I should not have so prematurely blocked you William
> You have made yourself into the perfect chalk board.
>
> You can't shut up the truth, and it exposes liars with ease.
> You are officially unplonked.
> stay tuned...
>
> ~ Cindy
>

This will be interesting Cindy. You just replied to Susan. Go for it.


Susan Cohen

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Jan 13, 2003, 8:32:52 AM1/13/03
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Yes, who had just replied to William Suzanne.
Someone can't keep thesock drawer straught.

Susan

Go for it.
>
>

Cynthia

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Jan 13, 2003, 9:30:45 AM1/13/03
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"Alan M" <nos...@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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:
: "Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message

: news:3e22b...@news.teranews.com...
: >
: > I should not have so prematurely blocked you William
: > You have made yourself into the perfect chalk board.
: >
: > You can't shut up the truth, and it exposes liars with ease.
: > You are officially unplonked.
: > stay tuned...
: >
: > ~ Cindy
: >
:
: This will be interesting Cindy.

Thank you.

:You just replied to Susan.

I know that, Williams post only appeared in Susans.

:Go for it.
:
I will look forward to your appropriate responses then.

~ Cindy


Susan Cohen

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Jan 13, 2003, 9:01:21 AM1/13/03
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"Susan Williams" <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 12 Jan 2003 14:49:50 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
> wrote:
>
> >Transvestite
> >Ted/Susan Williams has proven this oath is still practiced by their
> >ramblings on USENET.
>
> We love you super-damned Vatican scoundrel liar William. WE LOVE YOU!

Anyone want to explain this to me?
I mean, we can all see what's going on here, right?
I suppose what I'm asking is "Is not just me - this is too obvious for
words, right?"

Susan


Susan Cohen

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Jan 13, 2003, 9:02:31 AM1/13/03
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"Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message
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>
> I should not have so prematurely blocked you William
> You have made yourself into the perfect chalk board.
>
> You can't shut up the truth, and it exposes liars with ease.
> You are officially unplonked.
> stay tuned...
>
> ~ Cindy
>
> "Susan Williams" <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0io42vouhqne9tjh0...@4ax.com...
> : On 12 Jan 2003 14:49:50 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
> : wrote:
> :

Good grief. Someone let me know when it reaches 4 in one post. That's got to
be a record.

Susan


Susan Williams

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Jan 13, 2003, 9:56:37 AM1/13/03
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:32:52 -0500, Susan Cohen <fla...@his.com>
wrote:


Alright! The Scriptures speak of the perils of the last days. It
talks about bloodshed and wasting:

Amos 5:
18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it
for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.


Zephaniah 1:
14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth
greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall
cry there bitterly.
15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day
of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day
of clouds and thick darkness,
16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and
against the high towers.
17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like
blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood
shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them
in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured
by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance
of all them that dwell in the land.


All talking about the Day of the Lord, NONE of these references tell
us we must ignore all our lies to hate all Adventists people by
becoming paranoid about plagiarism and exposing it on the newsgroups
with cross-postings and floodings!!


In His Grace,


Susan
>>
>>

Susan Williams

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Jan 13, 2003, 10:01:23 AM1/13/03
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:01:21 -0500, "Susan Cohen" <fla...@his.com>
wrote:

>


Well I can explain it. It starts from claiming that any exposing of
the worst atrocities of all time is proving hatred of all the Catholic
people and shows the need to expose plagiarism of the Adventist
Church.

The Vatican killer then denies he doesn't hate the Adventist people.

This makes just as much perfect sense as my statement above!! This is
Satan's killer world and and thoughts. It is formed by the Vatican
killers.


In His Grace,


Susan

Alan M

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Jan 13, 2003, 10:01:26 AM1/13/03
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"Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alan M" <nos...@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:UEyU9.23307$jM5....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> :
> : "Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message
> : news:3e22b...@news.teranews.com...
> : >
> : > I should not have so prematurely blocked you William
> : > You have made yourself into the perfect chalk board.
> : >
> : > You can't shut up the truth, and it exposes liars with ease.
> : > You are officially unplonked.
> : > stay tuned...
> : >
> : > ~ Cindy
> : >
> :
> : This will be interesting Cindy.
>
> Thank you.

No problem.

>
> :You just replied to Susan.
>
> I know that, Williams post only appeared in Susans.

I can see it directly on my news reader. I hope this isn't another Ustashi
plot.

>
> :Go for it.
> :
> I will look forward to your appropriate responses then.

At the risk of improprietry - if Suzie keeps up her present rate of posts,
this thread could be buried before I get to it again.

>
> ~ Cindy
>
>


Jan Pieter Verhey

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Jan 13, 2003, 3:42:36 PM1/13/03
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"Susan Williams" <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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Amen.

>
>
> In His Grace,
>
>
> Susan
>


Jan Pieter Verhey

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Jan 13, 2003, 4:12:21 PM1/13/03
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"Susan Williams" <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 12 Jan 2003 14:49:50 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
> wrote:
>
> >Isn't it amazing that mad ravings about a Protestant propoganda
> >created "Jesuit Oath" are non-stop and used to accuse innocent
> >newgroups posters of awful crimes?
>
> Are those the "innocent" newsgroups posters who watched a man condemn
> liberty and the American Constitution for a long time without a
> problem? Are these also the "innocent" ones who became concerned and
> obeyed the Jesuit Oath when they saw a human being naturally upset
> about the situation? Are these the "innocent" human beings who
> watched a man condemn all non-Catholics to persecution and death but
> go nuts about plagiarism to the point where they accuse good people of
> being insane just because they disagree?
>
> Are these the "innocent" people who tell us when we define anything
> bad about an institution, we hate the people of that institution
> before they move to define something bad about our institution?
>

This is all much too simple! When we have super-duper "innocents" that
pay lipservice to truth but don't care about lies, and kill the
messenger instead... then what about the real super-killers that wait
for their time to strike again? When the Jesuits eat their Oath meals
under the umbrella of the Vatican, who will pay attention? The gullible
masses WILL BE DISTRACTED by the endless discussions that these
"innocents" generate..the messenger then being forced to defend itself,
making it impossible to warn the world against the killer-beasts that
work back stage on their plans!

Now what does this say about those who say that those people that
condemn the institution that allows this to happen... but prove by their
actions to be on the side of the actual super-beastly-duper killers??
The truth can only surface! And the same messenger that exposed the one
that wants to make Protestantism illegal in the world.. the
Super-Duper-Blooper-Killing-Trooper Ted Seebers has exposed this
extra-dimensional entity have infact already gathered its evil forces...
the time is near for the Lord to burn away all lies.. and all
conspirators that enjoy evil! We will not let this happen unnoticed.

In Her Grace
Legend

(what a thriller!)


William Suzanne

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Jan 13, 2003, 5:53:04 PM1/13/03
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Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<0io42vouhqne9tjh0...@4ax.com>...
> On 12 Jan 2003 14:49:50 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
> wrote:
>
> >Isn't it amazing that mad ravings about a Protestant propoganda
> >created "Jesuit Oath" are non-stop and used to accuse innocent
> >newgroups posters of awful crimes?
>
> Are those the "innocent" newsgroups posters who watched a man condemn
> liberty and the American Constitution for a long time without a
> problem? Are these also the "innocent" ones who became concerned and
> obeyed the Jesuit Oath when they saw a human being naturally upset
> about the situation? Are these the "innocent" human beings who
> watched a man condemn all non-Catholics to persecution and death but
> go nuts about plagiarism to the point where they accuse good people of
> being insane just because they disagree?
>
> Are these the "innocent" people who tell us when we define anything
> bad about an institution, we hate the people of that institution
> before they move to define something bad about our institution?
>
> >This is done to hide the acting
> >out of real, historically documented Protestant oaths; notice the
> >plural, because there is more than one.
>
> Any follower of the Jesuit Oath would make such a statement but would
> always be mentally competent enough to leave out the evidence.
>
> >They devilishly make up a
> >false Catholic oath to hide the Protestant ones!
>
> But we can condemn the hate found in the Jesuit Oath.

As I hope you should! After all, it was your hate of cultists like you
that made it up!

> It is a
> monstrous document and we can go line by line and ask, "WHAT
> ABSOLUTELY SUPER-DAMNED SERVANTS OF SATAN CAN WRITE SUCH HATEFUL
> GARBAGE!"

I told youy before...look in the mirror. How can you break so many
Commandments by making up such a thing and then pretend offense?

> We are not like the followers of the Jesuit Oath who lie to
> us they can't condemn it for its hate because it is fake, after they
> already condemn Protestant documents for hate on the grounds that they
> are fake.
>
> >Transvestite
> >Ted/Susan Williams has proven this oath is still practiced by their
> >ramblings on USENET.
>
> We love you super-damned Vatican scoundrel liar William. WE LOVE YOU!

Maybe we're getting somewhere. All I've asked is for prayers for you
and those of us that are must be getting through.


> >Although they are meant to be anti-Catholic, they were also intended
> >to take away rights of ALL who were not Protestant Christians. It
> >forced people to be Protestant in order to have rights!!
>
> Why would that concern you, when a man TODAY AND BOLDLY condemned all
> non-Catholics to persecution and death didn't bother you?
>
> How come when the documentation of the atrocities met your knowledge,
> it didn't do anything for you, but it made the Nazis to shudder?
>
> JUST REPEATED QUESTIONS THAT ARE DELIBERATELY IGNORED!
>
> >Very frightening is the fact they were freely used by Protestants in
> >the U.S. so they could subdue non-Protestansts.
>
> Where is the proof of all these lies?

For Starters:

http://occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/nash5e_awl/medialib/timeline/docs/sources/theme_primarysources_Immigration_7.html

http://www.dcpages.com/History/dchistory.html

http://www.morningsun.net/stories/092899/sun_0928990005.shtml

http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/HUGUENOTS-WALLOONS-EUROPE/2002-04/1018091190

http://www.newmanreader.org/works/england/lecture2.html

http://www.anglik.net/guyfawkes.htm

http://www.prayerbook.ca/cann/1999/12/pblam889.htm

http://www.midcoast.com/~gillespi/nations.htm

http://westnilevirus.nbii.gov/cgi-bin/textonly/0143/www.bbc.co.uk/history/state/monarchs_leaders/gunpowder_robinson1.shtml

http://indigo.ie/~kfinlay/Irish%20Parliaments/appendices.htm

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~rathregan/oconnell.html

http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/research/condon/Hynes/May1852.htm

> And why didn't this killer
> understand that JUST A YEAR AGO AND BOLDLY Ted Seeber condemned all
> non-Catholics to persecution and death?
>
> Here is what he omitted: the proof of my claims:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5s3n0vg73j3ij1ft2osp6jnmugum9himi7%404ax.com
>
> If these horrible events did not bother the Vatican killer, why would
> you allow him to disturb you that his killing enterprise is being
> disturbed?
>
> >In the South, it was
> >used well into the 19th century to keep Jews from voting. Is this not
> >hate and contempt for the American Constitution and its principles?
>
> YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, when we have brought it to light often
> that a man PLAINLY VOICED HIS CONTEMPT FOR THAT DOCUMENT and you were
> only bothered when the man was benig exposed?

As you are now vexed by the true exposition of your own actions and
promices?

Notice now how this person cannot or will not condemn their Godless
oaths and how they obey them?

In His True Grace,

William Suzanne

William Suzanne

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Jan 13, 2003, 5:55:29 PM1/13/03
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"Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message news:<3e22b...@news.teranews.com>...

> I should not have so prematurely blocked you William
> You have made yourself into the perfect chalk board.
>
> You can't shut up the truth, and it exposes liars with ease.
> You are officially unplonked.
> stay tuned...

Very true Cindy, as proven by how I now expose ALL the truths that
cultists and duped Satanic minions want to keep hidden.

Susan Williams

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Jan 13, 2003, 6:51:36 PM1/13/03
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On 13 Jan 2003 14:53:04 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
wrote:


If that were true (AND IT'S NOT) it sure compelled much respect from
you and the other Vatican killers toward it to refuse to condemn the
hate in it and the demons who created it!! It forced you to lie to us
by bringing the concept that any fake document need not be condemned
like the truthful Foxe's Book of Martyrs always was by you killers.

>> It is a
>> monstrous document and we can go line by line and ask, "WHAT
>> ABSOLUTELY SUPER-DAMNED SERVANTS OF SATAN CAN WRITE SUCH HATEFUL
>> GARBAGE!"
>
>I told youy before...look in the mirror. How can you break so many
>Commandments by making up such a thing and then pretend offense?

I can do that when you respect and follow the Jesiut Oath. Then you
will see that I can do that.

Here the killer is condemning me, but refusing to condemn the Jesuit
Oath.

>> We are not like the followers of the Jesuit Oath who lie to
>> us they can't condemn it for its hate because it is fake, after they
>> already condemn Protestant documents for hate on the grounds that they
>> are fake.
>>
>> >Transvestite
>> >Ted/Susan Williams has proven this oath is still practiced by their
>> >ramblings on USENET.

Hmmmm. Notice how the killer had to past that last statement by
again?


>> We love you super-damned Vatican scoundrel liar William. WE LOVE YOU!
>
>Maybe we're getting somewhere. All I've asked is for prayers for you
>and those of us that are must be getting through.

It didn't work, for you prayed for the preservation of the Jesuit Oath
also. Without it 100% of your life's occupation would be in jeopardy.

By the way, did you remember making an idiot out of Jesus Christ?
Watch this even though I know you saw it but have to ignore it:


Below, with Vatican skill, the man tells us the bible says that Ellen
White is the Antichrist. We prove that it is false, but again, for
the millionth time, this super-scoundrel of the Pope ignores it and
continues the attack in diversion and evasion:


http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=ls0v1v8fj9l0jprvu4dpd3jh4euba7mod5%404ax.com

Watch now as he, in his bloodthirsty hatred trying to destroy Ellen
White, makes an immense idiot of Christ based on his own criteria!:

>Mrs White said in May of 1856 that some of those listening to her will
>live
>to see the return of Jesus...
>Some of those that were attending a meeting with her would become food
>for worms, and some would live to become subjects of the seven last
>plagues, and some others would "remain upon the earth to be translated
>at the coming of Jesus." Testimonies for the Church, vol 1, pg
>131-132.
>Hmmm, that statement was made over 140 years ago. Has Jesus come yet?
>Are any of those at that 1856 meeting still alive?
>ONE FALSE PROPHECY MAKES A FALSE PROPHET.

Now listen and see THE FOLLOWING SUPREME FALSE PROPHET ACCORDING TO
THE USTASHI DEMON:

Matthew 16 shows Christ saying the following words. But remember that
the Ustashi killer told us that Ellen White was 140 years off. As you
read further, figure out how many years off Christ is!!


28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
kingdom.

These were Jesus' words.

OH HOW HARD IT IS WHEN YOU ARE A SON OF SATAN FROM THE ANTICHRIST!!!
ALL THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE BLOOD-LETTING CULT HAD SOME
CONSCIENCE TO UNDERSTAND THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE CHANGED INSTEAD OF
HIDING HER TRUE COLORS BEFORE THE WORLD IN ORDER TO FOLLOW THE JESUIT
OATH!!


In His Grace,


Susan

Susan Williams

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wrote:

>"Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message news:<3e22b...@news.teranews.com>...


>> I should not have so prematurely blocked you William
>> You have made yourself into the perfect chalk board.
>>
>> You can't shut up the truth, and it exposes liars with ease.
>> You are officially unplonked.
>> stay tuned...
>
>Very true Cindy, as proven by how I now expose ALL the truths that
>cultists and duped Satanic minions want to keep hidden.

Including this one:


Below, with Vatican skill, the man (WILLIAM SUZANNE) tells us the


bible says that Ellen White is the Antichrist. We prove that it is
false, but again, for the millionth time, this super-scoundrel of the
Pope ignores it and continues the attack in diversion and evasion:


http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=ls0v1v8fj9l0jprvu4dpd3jh4euba7mod5%404ax.com


>Mrs White said in May of 1856 that some of those listening to her will
>live
>to see the return of Jesus...
>Some of those that were attending a meeting with her would become food
>for worms, and some would live to become subjects of the seven last
>plagues, and some others would "remain upon the earth to be translated
>at the coming of Jesus." Testimonies for the Church, vol 1, pg
>131-132.
>Hmmm, that statement was made over 140 years ago. Has Jesus come yet?
>Are any of those at that 1856 meeting still alive?
>ONE FALSE PROPHECY MAKES A FALSE PROPHET.

Now listen and see THE FOLLOWING SUPREME FALSE PROPHET:

Matthew 16 shows Christ saying the following words. But remember that

the Ustashi killer told us that Ellen White was 140 years off. Is
there someone who was more of an idiot and was much more off?

Now look at this supreme false prophet according to Ustashi Vatican
sanity:

Cynthia

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"William Suzanne" <WilSu...@rock.com> wrote in message
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: Very true Cindy, as proven by how I now expose ALL the truths that


: cultists and duped Satanic minions want to keep hidden.

You have exposed NOTHING William, in fact I just got done reading
several posts where you have been exposed as a liar, and
so cannot answer. Apparently in your desire to condemn
Ellen White you condemned the Son of God.

William Suzanne is now posting against Ellen White and Adventist
beliefs, but this is a diversion to cover his original concern
demonstrated by what he entered the newsgroups to post:

9 Jan 2003 07:53:37 -0800
"Ted Seeber speaks only for Ted Seeber and NO ONE ELSE! Like you, he
has no authority over anything. So why do you care? If you think Ted
Seeber is going to kill you, call the police and BEGONE, SATAN!"

9 Jan 2003 08:06:53 -0800
Ted Seeber speaks for no one but Ted Seeber just as transvestite Ted
(aka Susan) speaks for no one but his/her master, Satan (also no one).

12 Jan 2003 11:05:51 -0800
PROOF! PROOF! PRROF OF THE LIES AND GAMES! How many times has the
demon here called others "killers" and keeps bringing up someone named
Ted Seeber who is alleged to have threatened peoples lives. Ted/Susan
denies it right above and goes then goes on about Seeber again below
IN THE SAME POST. See, the workers of the father of lies always are
exposed eventually! Never forget this moment!!!

12 Jan 2003 13:27:44 -0800
No, that IS the problem...demons like you have no common sense or you
would see that your link proves nothing and Seeber speaks for no one.
See how you have no sense?

10 Jan 2003 10:34:44 -0800
Susan:
> Ted Seeber, boldly
> claiming to be Catholic and to defend the Catholic Church naturally
> continues a long, long campaign to boldly condemn the American
> Constitution and those who prepared it....
> Folks, do you have any common sense out there as the Ustashi tells us
> that Seeber doesn't speak for Rome???

And William responds with the real issue:
"Prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it. YOU must post exactly the
source that says "Rome hates the American Constitution" or admit it is
one of your satanic hatred lies."

It is apparent what William Suzannes concern is, Rome, her agenda and
how Ted Seeber, unlike most today, revealed that boldly.

Here is my concern.

Is Seeber as a man really important? No. It is the things he said that
were the issue, his name originally was just used as a reference to
those issues, but then a strange thing happened, suddenly everyone
became concerned about Ted Seeber, but not about the things he said, or
what the issue actually was. They saw Ted Mcmillan as attacking Seeber,
but wouldn't even try to find out why.

I was one of them, I thought I was witnessing to Seeber, he was
pleasant, he was polite for the most part, and as many still say "he was
nice".

But you know what?
after the arrest or conviction of Serial killers, people invariably come
forward to say; "we never had a clue!! he was always so nice.. and
polite... and everybody liked him" ,even those closest to them say this.
They couldn't read the criminal's thoughts and were fooled by the
facade. These people most times have charasmatic type personalities.
What was unique about Theodore Seeber is that he readily revealed his
thoughts, to Ted Mcmillan and yet most still couldn't notice. The bible
talks about how we are to watch and pray and encourage each other even
more as the day of the Lord approaches, it also talks about a great
deception and peoples minds being clouded and blinded in the last days.

I finally noticed Seeber lying one day, and of all things it concerned
the ustashis and the current lawsuit with the Vatican.
I had been arguing with Ted McMillan for quite some time, and thinking
I was answering his questions, and loving him and not understanding
I had been misjudging him ever since I had popped into his arguments
with Seeber. (I thought I was supposed to teach him how to love.)
I was praying about this for a long time, and then I noticed Seebers lie
which disturbed me ALOT, it occured to me I should check if Seeber had
been lying before.I had been reading all of The posts Ted M referred me
too,
but could never see his point, until then when I read
them all, and there are many.

William Suzanne claims Ted Seeber spoke for himself, Why?
because Ted Seeber spoke out, and argued against the
American government, the founding Fathers, and the freedoms
that the U.S. were founded on, at least since 1994 according
to google archives.
He promoted a change in our government, and the ecumenical
movement as defined by Rome and expressed in Vatican 2
as a *must* and not a option.
He ridiculed and called protestants rebels, and immoral etc.
said they just couldn't understand this was a command
given in John 17, to join with the catholic church, said privacy and
liberty were
outdated and useless, and the declaration of independance was too.
Argued against the amendments to the constitution, and against
the right to protect yourself, and then he revealed he believed
the deaths of the christians killed by his church was JUSTIFIED.

That is why William Suzanne *claims* Ted Seeber only spoke for himself,
because he knows something you don't. Ted was repeating what he learned
from Rome.

William claims Rome does not hate theAmerican constitution. This is a
LIE. Rome has always been against freedom, and the division of Church
and state. I will allow Rome to speak for herself in my next post as
many especially Catholics who grew up in America, and love their country
and value the principles it was founded on are not even aware of this,
or of how they have been lied to on the local level.

This issue is important because God tells us that before Jesus returns
there is going to be a time of trouble such as never has been since
since there was a nation. he warns us that many of those of the faith
will be deceived and led astray, and that the majority will join
together to follow after and speak and act in the same way as the beast
has in the past. Rome will persecute and Kill just as she
persecuted and killed in the past,( the dark ages, the inquisition, the
ustashis, etc)
and again they will think they are doing God service, and that
the ends justify the means.

Many do not understand how this is even possible in this day and age,
but consider the evil all around you and the injustice and crimes and
hatred ,and then consider that all of this is while God's Holy spirit is
restraining the World. Without a conscience evil reigns.
That is why it is so very important to know God and his
truth and not be deceived, because if you are not one of his, when the
Holy Spirit is withdrawn YOU WILL BE one of the killers, even of those
you may think you love now, and you will not repent even though the
plagues fall upon you. God has had Angels holding back those winds of
strife in order to allow you to see, and choose, but time is running
out.
God's true sons and daughters will not be deceived, and He will place
his name upon them to preserve them because only those few who
truly have the faith Of Jesus and follow him will stand firm to resist
the beast,
Those who do not will be destroyed eternally.

In order to overcome the beast, you have to recognize it, so you can go
on to discover all of the lies, to be free, and worship the Creator in
spirit and in truth.
That is why Jesus returned here to reveal the prophesies to John for us.
Our God wants us to be prepared. Many people say "I'm ready for Jesus to
come"
but without a knowledge of all that Jesus taught, they are not.

In order for the antichrist system to persecute and rule,
principles of liberty and freedom have
to be overturned.

William said:

"Prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it. YOU must post exactly the
source that says "Rome hates the American Constitution" or admit it is
one of your satanic hatred lies."

Proof to follow...

William Suzanne

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More amazing breakthroughs! See as exampled in the Ted/Susan's
previous reply that (s)he didn't bother to answer or refute all the
truths thrown at him/her? Thank you everyone! Although (s)he tries
to follow their Protestant oaths and cult orders, I think our prayers
are beginning to work as (s)he runs out of false accusations to hide
their lies and evil!!! To ereryone: keep up the good work. To
transvestited Ted/Susan: we'll soon have you saved!


<snip>

notforpublicinfo

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That was a work of art.

nfpi

"Jan Pieter Verhey" <janpiete...@12move.nl> wrote in message
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Susan Williams

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On 13 Jan 2003 20:01:19 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
wrote:

>More amazing breakthroughs! See as exampled in the Ted/Susan's


I would like to take this time out to pray for Jesus since a
super-terrorist from his archenemy the Devil made Him out to be a
complete idiot and a supreme false prophet.

The man who did this crime is none other than the super-terrorist
killer from the Vatican, William Suzanne!!


I KNOW YOU MAKE THESE READERS WHOM YOU THINK ARE STUPID OUT TO BE
IDIOTS, USTASHI SUZANNE, BUT WHY DID YOU MAKE CHRIST OUT TO BE AN
IDIOT AGAIN???

THE MAN STILL AS YET HAS NOT ANSWERED WHY HE MADE CHRIST OUT TO BE A
COMPLETE IDIOT. HE CLAIMED THAT ELLEN WHITE WAS THE WORST FALSE
PROPHET. BELOW HE SHOWS THAT ELLEN WHITE PREDICTED THE SECOND COMING
OF THE LORD IN HER DAY (THE 1840S). WATCH NOW AND SEE AS SOMEONE ELSE
MISSES IT. . .

BY MORE THAN 2,000 YEARS!!!!!


The super-terrrorist William Suzanne, in his hatred against all
Adventist people (accoding to his stated standards) says while
attacking Ellen White:

>Mrs White said in May of 1856 that some of those listening to her will
>live
>to see the return of Jesus...
>Some of those that were attending a meeting with her would become food
>for worms, and some would live to become subjects of the seven last
>plagues, and some others would "remain upon the earth to be translated
>at the coming of Jesus." Testimonies for the Church, vol 1, pg
>131-132.

>Hmmm, that statement was made over 140 years ago. Has Jesus come yet?
>Are any of those at that 1856 meeting still alive?
>ONE FALSE PROPHECY MAKES A FALSE PROPHET.

Now listen and see, according to his false principles, THE FOLLOWING
SUPREME FALSE PROPHET:

Cynthia

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Repost???

"William Suzanne" <WilSu...@rock.com> wrote in message
news:5f039a16.03011...@posting.google.com...

: Very true Cindy, as proven by how I now expose ALL the truths that


: cultists and duped Satanic minions want to keep hidden.

You have exposed NOTHING William, in fact I just got done reading

Here is my concern.

William said:

Rome hates the american Constitution.

proof next post...

~ Cindy


Cynthia

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Repost

Here you go William.

ROME SPEAKS:

"Long ages ago, when Rome through the neglect of the Western emperors
was left to the mercy of the barbarous hordes, the Romans turned to one
figure for aid and protection, and asked him to rule them; and thus, . .
. commenced the temporal sovereignty of the popes. And meekly stepping
to the throne of Caesar, the vicar of Christ took up the scepter to
which the emperors and kings of Europe were to bow in reverence through
so many ages."--American Catholic Quarterly Review, April, 1911.

"We define that the Holy Apostolic See (the Vatican) and the Roman
Pontiff hold the primacy over the whole world."-A Decree of the Council
of Trent, quoted in Philippe Labbe and Gabriel Cossart, "The Most Holy
Councils," col. 1167.

"[It is error to believe that] The Church ought to be separated from the
State, and the State from the Church." Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of
Errors), Issued in 1864, Section VI, Errors About Civil Society,
Considered Both in Itself and in its Relation to the Church, #55.

"[It is error to believe that] Kings and princes are not only exempt
from the jurisdiction of the Church, but are superior to the Church in
deciding questions of jurisdiction." Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of
Errors), Issued in 1864, Section VI, Errors About Civil Society,
Considered Both in Itself and in its Relation to the Church, #54.

"[It is error to believe that] In the case of conflicting laws enacted
by the two powers (Church and civil), the civil law prevails." Pope Pius
IX, The Syllabus (of Errors), Issued in 1864, Section VI, Errors About
Civil Society, Considered Both in Itself and in its Relation to the
Church, # 42.

"Democracy is a michievous dream where the Catholic Church does not
predominate." -Brownson's Review.

"There is one, and only one, sure democracy, the Catholicism of the
Popes" -The Catholic World, Oct, 1937.

"Some dwell on the vastly increased tolerance shown in this country now
to Catholics and Catholic thugs... It betokens a decay of
Protestantism." -Catholic World, Oct. 1935, p.66

The old Protestant culture is about at the end of its rope... Why can't
we make the U.S. Catholic in legislation, Catholic in justice, aims and
ideals?" -Father F. X. Talbot, editor of America, official jesuit
magazine for the U.S. statement in New York Globe Dec. 14, 1930

"Religious liberty is merely endured until the opposite can be carried
into effect without peril to the Catholic Church." -Bishop O'Conner of
Pittsburg.

"If Catholics ever gain sufficient numerical majority in this country,
religious freedom is at an end. So our enemies say; so we believe" -The
Shephard of the Valley, journal of the late bishop of St. Louis.

In the book Confusion Twice Confounded, Monsignor Joseph H. Brady states
that the U.S. Supreme Court is wrong in decisions regarding "seperation
of Church and State." He says: "A sound view of the Constitution in its
relation to religion probably awaits a change in personnel in our
highest tribunal." -The Register, Jan. 23, 1955.

"But Constitutions can be changed, and non-Catholic sects may decline to
such a point that the political proscription [ban] of them may become
feasible and expedient. What protection would they have against a
Catholic state?" -The State and the Church, pp.38,39, by Miller and
Ryan, imprimatur of Cardinal Hayes.

"The Catholic Church in this nation must live on to accomplish her work,
even though our Republican form of government disappears." -The Catholic
World, April, 1935, p.12. "

They [Catholics] must penetrate wherever possible in the administration
of civil affairs... all Catholics should do all in their power to cause
the constitution of states, and legislation to be modeled on the
principles of the true Church." -Encyclical of Leo XIII.

"It is error to believe that Every man is free to embrace and profess
that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider
true." Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of Errors), Issued in 1864, Section
III, Indifferentism, Latitudinarianism, #15.

"It is error to believe that hence it has been wisely decided by law,
in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall
enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship." Pope Pius IX,
The Syllabus (of Errors), Issued in 1864, Section X, Errors Having
Reference to Modern Liberalism, #78.

"It is error to believe that Moreover, it is false that the civil
liberty of every form of worship, and the full power, given to all, of
overtly and publicly manifesting any opinions whatsoever and thoughts,
conduce more easily to corrupt the morals and minds of the people, and
to propagate the pest of indifferentism." Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of
Errors), Issued in 1864, Section X, Errors Having Reference to Modern
LiberalismI, #79.

"This shameful font of indifferentism gives rise to that absurd and
erroneous proposition which claims that liberty of conscience must be
maintained for everyone. It spreads ruin in sacred and civil affairs,
though some repeat over and over again with the greatest impudence that
some advantage accrues to religion from it....a pestilence more deadly
to the state than any other. Experience shows, even from earliest times,
that cities renowned for wealth, dominion, and glory perished as a
result of this single evil, namely immoderate freedom of opinion,
license of free speech, and desire for novelty.
Here We must include that harmful and never sufficiently
denounced freedom to publish any writings whatever and disseminate them
to the people, which some dare to demand and promote with so great a
clamor. We are horrified to see what monstrous doctrines and prodigious
errors are disseminated far and wide in countless books, pamphlets, and
other writings which, though small in weight, are very great in malice."
Pope Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos (On Liberalism and Religious
Indifferentism), Encyclical promulgated on August 15, 1832, #14 & 15.


Under the influence of Germanic customs and concepts, torture was little
used from the 9th to the 12th centuries, but with the revival of Roman
law the practice was reestablished in the 12th century... In 1252 (Pope)
Innocent IV sanctioned the infliction of torture by the civil
authorities upon heretics, and torture came to have a recognized place
in the procedure of the inquisitional courts. -New Catholic
Encyclopedia, arts. "Inquisition", "Auto-da-Fe'," and "Massacre of St
Bartholomew's Day."


"You ask if he (the Roman Catholic) were lord in the land, and you were
in a minority, if not in numbers yet in power, what would he do to you?
That, we say, would entirely depend upon circumstances. If it would
benefit the cause of Catholicism, he would tolerate you: If expedient,
he would imprison you, banish you, fine you; possibly, he might even
hang you. But be assured of one thing: He would never tolerate you for
the sake of 'the glorious principles of civil and religious liberty' . .
. Catholicism is the most intolerant of creeds. It is intolerance
itself, for it is truth itself."--"Civil and Religious Liberty," in The
Rambler, 8, Sept, 1851, pp. 174, 178. ["The Rambler" was an English
Roman Catholic journal published from 1848 to 1862].

"Experience teaches that there is no other remedy for the evil, but to
put heretics (Protestants) to death; for the (Romish) church proceeded
gradually and tried every remedy: at first she merely excommunicatied
them; afterwards she added a fine; then she banished them; and finally
she was constrained to put them to death." -Cardinal Bellarmine famous
champion of Romanism cited by Schumucker p. 76

" 'The church,' says [Martin] Luther, 'has never burned a heretic.' . .
I reply that this argument proves not the opinion, but the ignorance or
impudence of Luther. Since almost infinite numbers were either burned or
otherwise killed, Luther either did not know it, and was therefore
ignorant, or if he was not ignorant, he is convicted of impudence and
falsehood,--for that heretics were often burned by theCatholic Church
may be proved from many examples."--Robert Bellarmine, Disputationes de
Controversiis, Tom. II, Lib. III, cap. XXII, 1628 edition [Bellarmine is
one of the most respected Jesuit teachers in the history of the
Gregorian University in Rome, the largest Jesuit training school in the
world].

Mr. Raywood Frazier, in the booklet "Catholic Words and Actions,"
presents documentary proof of the intensive persecution of Protestants
and non-Catholics in Columbia, South America, between 1949 and 1953. The
Catholic Church had the support of the Columbian government in the
destruction of many churches, and the liquidation of more than 1,000
documented cases -- some of whom were shot, drowned, or emasculated. He
says there is evidence of over 60,000 killed. Pope Pius XII awarded the
President of Columbia with one of the highest awards which the Church
bestows, and praised Columbia for its example of the Catholic faith."
(Pp. 59,60)

The defense of Roman Catholics to this presentation is as follows:
"Communists destroy churches because they are God's enemies; Catholic's
destroy churches because they are God's friends... Against such
men-founded churches... Catholics in Latin America should arise and wipe
them out with fire." -John J. Oberlander, in The Voice of Freedom, 1954,
p. 20.

The rector of the Catholic Institute of Paris, H.M.A. Baudrillart,
revealed the attitude of the church and her leaders toward persecution.
"When confronted with heresy," he said, "she does not content herself
with persuasion, arguments of an intellectual and moral order appear to
her insufficient, and she has recourse to force, to corporal punishment,
to torture." The Catholic Church, The Renassance, and Protestantism, pp.
182-183


"It no longer can be said today that the U.S. is a Protestant
country." -Cardinal Strich of Chicago, quoted in Time Magazine, Aug. 5,
1955 "

"It is error to believe that Every man is free to embrace and profess
that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider
true." Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of Errors), Issued in 1864, Section
III, Indifferentism, Latitudinarianism, #15.

"It is error to believe that hence it has been wisely decided by law,
in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall
enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship." Pope Pius IX,
The Syllabus (of Errors), Issued in 1864, Section X, Errors Having
Reference to Modern Liberalism, #78.

"It is error to believe that Moreover, it is false that the civil
liberty of every form of worship, and the full power, given to all, of
overtly and publicly manifesting any opinions whatsoever and thoughts,
conduce more easily to corrupt the morals and minds of the people, and
to propagate the pest of indifferentism." Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of
Errors), Issued in 1864, Section X, Errors Having Reference to Modern
LiberalismI, #79.

"This shameful font of indifferentism gives rise to that absurd and
erroneous proposition which claims that liberty of conscience must be
maintained for everyone. It spreads ruin in sacred and civil affairs,
though some repeat over and over again with the greatest impudence that
some advantage accrues to religion from it....a pestilence more deadly
to the state than any other. Experience shows, even from earliest times,
that cities renowned for wealth, dominion, and glory perished as a
result of this single evil, namely immoderate freedom of opinion,
license of free speech, and desire for novelty.

"Here We must include that harmful and never sufficiently denounced
freedom to publish any writings whatever and disseminate them to the
people, which some dare to demand and promote with so great a clamor. We
are horrified to see what monstrous doctrines and prodigious errors are
disseminated far and wide in countless books, pamphlets, and other
writings which, though small in weight, are very great in malice." Pope
Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos (On Liberalism and Religious Indifferentism),
Encyclical promulgated on August 15, 1832, #14 & 15.

In the fourth and fifth centuries, Sunday shows and Sunday theaters, it
was complained, hindered the "devotion of the faithful," because many of
the members attended them in preference to the church services. The
church, therefore, demanded that the state interfere, and promote Sunday
observance by law. "In this way, " Says Neander "the church received
help from the state for the furtherence of her ends." This union of
church and state served to establish the Papacy in power. A simular
course pursued now will produce the same results. -AUGUSTUS NEANDER,
General History of the Christian Religion and the Church, Torey
translation (3rd American ed.), vol. 2, pp. 300,301

On September 7, 1947, Pope Pius XII declared that "the time for
reflection and planning is past in religious and moral fields and the
time for action has arrived." He said that "the battle in religious and
moral fields hinged on five points: Religious culture, the sanctifying
of Sunday, the saving of the Christian family, social justice and
loyalty and truthfulness in dealings." -Evening Star (Washington D.C.),
Sept. 8, 1947.

"No person shall preach without the permission of his Superior. All
preachers shall explain the Gospel according to the Fathers. They shall
not explain futurity or the times of Antichrist!" -Pope Leo X, 1516

"The church may by Divine right confiscate the property of heretics,
imprison their persons, and condemn them to the flames." -Vatican II

"Consequently, John Paul was criticized by liberal and moderate
politicians and newspapers for transgressing the boundary between church
and state." TIME June 1, 1981 article "Not Yet Hale, but Hearty" By
George Russell

In sermons based on the Ten Commandments, John Paul denounced excessive
materialism, divorce, contraception and the separation of church and
state, TIME June 17, 1991 "The Gift Of Life" p. 47 Sermons from A Native
Son

Recent statements by the Polish Episcopate have fueled apprehension. In
late April the bishops urged that the new constitution exclude any
provision for the separation of church and state. Instead, they
suggested, "exceptional emphasis should be laid on the need for
cooperation between the state and the Catholic Church." TIME May 20,
1991 "Five Who Could Be Vice President" Pg 40 "Power to The Pulpit"

HOW DOES THE CHRISTIAN MAJORITY HERE IN AMERICA RESPOND?

On October 11 and 12, the Christian Coalition held its
"Road to Victory" rally at the Washington Convention
Center. The rally included a parade of powerful
politicians, including a video greeting from President
Bush in which he referred to the Christian Coalition as
his "good friends" and spoke of the values he shares with
them....
Many of the speakers railed against the separation of
church and state. Joyce Meyer, a popular television
preacher whose burgeoning ministry co-sponsored the event,
summed up the sentiment stating
"SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
IS A DECEPTION OF SATAN" She went on to note that
the conference was "bringing the spiritual and political
together." She also condemned sectarianism, noting that
"we need to unite [in order to] get a lot done in
Washington. There are more of us than there are more of
them." She promised listeners that "we are going to have a
worldwide revival..."
Senator Inhofe promised the cheering crowd that "we
are winning" and noted that the Christian Coalition is
fighting in the "holiest of wars... We are a clear
majority."

Congressman Jones, who was the primary force behind
the recently defeated "House of Worship Political Speech
Act," stated that he would reintroduce that Act in
January, and vowed "we will get it passed." The Act aims
to get politics involved in churches and churches involved
in politics.

In conclusion, the rally was a celebration of a union
of church and state, the promise of a world-wide religious
revival, and an impressive flexing of political muscle
fueled by religious fervor. It was hard to sit through
many of the speeches without hearing the echoes of
prophecy.

HOW DOES THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA RESPOND?

'All of you are part of the humanizing mission which is part of the
"great commission" and the Pope John Paul II Cultural Center, which we
will dedicate tomorrow, will bring this message to generations of
Americans in this capital of our nation. The best way to honor Pope
John Paul II, truly one of the great men, is to take his teaching
seriously; is to listen to his words and put his words and teachings
INTO ACTION HERE IN AMERICA. This is a challenge we MUST accept. But
you know something about our country? WITH THE RIGHT FOCUS AND RIGHT
LEADERSHIP, IT'S A CHALLENGE THIS NATION WILL ACCEPT ...'

President George W. Bush
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/03/20010322.html

~ Cindy


Susan Cohen

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notforpublicinfo wrote:
> That was a work of art.

It must be, because it's almost impossible to understand!

Susan

Jan Pieter Verhey

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"Susan Cohen" <fla...@his.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> notforpublicinfo wrote:
> > That was a work of art.
>
> It must be, because it's almost impossible to understand!

Shit!! :))
>
> Susan

notforpublicinfo

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"Susan Cohen" <fla...@his.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> notforpublicinfo wrote:
> > That was a work of art.
>
> It must be, because it's almost impossible to understand!
>
> Susan

That is the point! It was such a beautiful imitation of the rantings of
Susan/William/etc. It was supposed to be incoherent.

nfpi

William Suzanne

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"Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message news:<3e2362d9$1...@news.teranews.com>...

> "William Suzanne" <WilSu...@rock.com> wrote in message
> news:5f039a16.03011...@posting.google.com...
>
> : Very true Cindy, as proven by how I now expose ALL the truths that
> : cultists and duped Satanic minions want to keep hidden.
>
> You have exposed NOTHING William, in fact I just got done reading
> several posts where you have been exposed as a liar, and
> so cannot answer. Apparently in your desire to condemn
> Ellen White you condemned the Son of God.

And how did I supposedly accomplish this?

William Suzanne

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Jan 14, 2003, 9:27:39 AM1/14/03
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"Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message news:<3e237...@news.teranews.com>...

> Repost
>
> Here you go William.

Gee, not a single on of them says "Rome hates the American
Constitution." You said you had it.

William Suzanne

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Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<j6572v0li5jobmuu5...@4ax.com>...

> On 13 Jan 2003 20:01:19 -0800, WilSu...@rock.com (William Suzanne)
> wrote:
>
> >More amazing breakthroughs! See as exampled in the Ted/Susan's
> >previous reply that (s)he didn't bother to answer or refute all the
> >truths thrown at him/her? Thank you everyone! Although (s)he tries
> >to follow their Protestant oaths and cult orders, I think our prayers
> >are beginning to work as (s)he runs out of false accusations to hide
> >their lies and evil!!! To ereryone: keep up the good work. To
> >transvestited Ted/Susan: we'll soon have you saved!
> >
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >In His True Grace,
> >
> >William Suzanne
>
>
> I would like to take this time out to pray for Jesus

You do not pray FOR Jesus...you pray TO Jesus. Only the ego of Satan
and his minions would think that God Himself needs human help and
prayers! Lord have mercy!!! Evidence keeps growing...

See how they can't refute the false prophesy of their devil cult
false-prophetess? After a listing of many of her false prophesies,
there is only ONE they THINK they can argue against AND USE IT TO
FALSELY PUT WORDS IN OTHERS' MOUTHS!

> Now listen and see, according to his false principles, THE FOLLOWING
> SUPREME FALSE PROPHET:
>
> Jesus said:
>
> 28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
> not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
> kingdom.
>
> These were Jesus' words.

Yes they ARE His words(not were). Isn't this sad? This prooves how
non-Christian the cult's members are. They just proved here that they
have no understanding of the basic Christian doctrine of The
Transfiguration written in 3 of the 4 Gospels!!! And their cult CLAIMS
to believe it!!! Here's what the notes from one of their own editions
of the Bible has to say on this passage:

"It is significant that all three Synoptic Gospels record the
narrative of the Transfiguration immediately following this
prediction. There is no break in the narrative—no chapter or verse
division in the Greek original—and furthermore all three mention the
fact that the Transfiguration occurred about a week after this
statement, implying that the event was the fulfilment of the
prediction. The connection between the two sections of narrative seems
to preclude the possibility that Jesus here referred to anything but
the Transfiguration, which was a miniature demonstration of the
kingdom of glory. Undoubtedly Peter so understood it (see 2 Peter
1:16–18) -- Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, [Matthew 16:28]."

This should also be read in conjunction with Acts 11:1

Just prooves they are too busy reading the satanic writings of false
prophets and ignoring the Bible.

William Suzanne

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Jan 14, 2003, 10:22:59 AM1/14/03
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Susan Williams <salet...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message news:<s8k62vknlj7mvapfe...@4ax.com>...

No matter how hard they want to try, they can't disprove what is
written above.

> Now listen and see THE FOLLOWING SUPREME FALSE PROPHET:
>
> Matthew 16 shows Christ saying the following words. But remember that
> the Ustashi killer told us that Ellen White was 140 years off. Is
> there someone who was more of an idiot and was much more off?
>
> Now look at this supreme false prophet according to Ustashi Vatican
> sanity:
>
> 28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
> not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
> kingdom.
>
> These were Jesus' words.
>

Yes they ARE His words(not were). Isn't this sad? This prooves how
non-Christian the cult's members are. They just proved here that they
have no understanding of the basic Christian doctrine of The
Transfiguration written in 3 of the 4 Gospels!!! And their cult CLAIMS
to believe it!!! Here's what the notes from one of their own editions
of the Bible has to say on this passage:

"It is significant that all three Synoptic Gospels record the
narrative of the Transfiguration immediately following this
prediction. There is no break in the narrative—no chapter or verse
division in the Greek original—and furthermore all three mention the
fact that the Transfiguration occurred about a week after this
statement, implying that the event was the fulfilment of the
prediction. The connection between the two sections of narrative seems
to preclude the possibility that Jesus here referred to anything but
the Transfiguration, which was a miniature demonstration of the
kingdom of glory. Undoubtedly Peter so understood it (see 2 Peter
1:16–18) -- Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, [Matthew 16:28]."

This should also be read in conjunction with Acts 11:1

Just prooves they are too busy reading the satanic writings of false
prophets and ignoring the Bible.

In His True Grace,

William Suzanne

Cynthia

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"William Suzanne" <WilSu...@rock.com> wrote in message
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: "Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message

news:<3e237...@news.teranews.com>...
: > Repost
: >
: > Here you go William.
:
: Gee, not a single on of them says "Rome hates the American
: Constitution." You said you had it.

An exact quote is not needed here, what is needed is that you engage
your brain and notice Rome's principles and agenda are the exact
opposite of everything this country was founded on.

Of course you already knew that.

thanks for giving me the oportunity to post this once again.

~ Cindy
:
: >
: > ROME SPEAKS:

Cynthia

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"William Suzanne" <WilSu...@rock.com> wrote in message
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: "Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message

news:<3e2362d9$1...@news.teranews.com>...
: > "William Suzanne" <WilSu...@rock.com> wrote in message
: > news:5f039a16.03011...@posting.google.com...
: >
: > : Very true Cindy, as proven by how I now expose ALL the truths that
: > : cultists and duped Satanic minions want to keep hidden.
: >
: > You have exposed NOTHING William, in fact I just got done reading
: > several posts where you have been exposed as a liar, and
: > so cannot answer. Apparently in your desire to condemn
: > Ellen White you condemned the Son of God.
:
: And how did I supposedly accomplish this?

You took a quote out of context, without finding any more about the
subject, or reading her other words regarding it and you tried to use it
to prove her a false prophet, so Susan quoted a verse from scripture
where Jesus used similar words, which without knowing anymore about the
subject, or reading his other words, would, following your methods and
reasoning, prove him a false prophet too.

Now of course you have given a explanation of Jesus' words, so you will
not have a problem understanding that there is an explanation for Ellen
White's too, her opening words were:

"At the Conference at Battle Creek, May 27, 1856, I was shown in
vision some things that concern the church generally..."

Hint: Do you know why jesus hasn't returned yet? and was Jonah a false
prophet?


~ Cindy

William Suzanne

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"Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message news:<3e24b...@news.teranews.com>...

> "William Suzanne" <WilSu...@rock.com> wrote in message
> news:5f039a16.03011...@posting.google.com...
> : "Cynthia" <synt...@localline.com> wrote in message
> news:<3e237...@news.teranews.com>...
> : > Repost
> : >
> : > Here you go William.
> :
> : Gee, not a single on of them says "Rome hates the American
> : Constitution." You said you had it.
>
> An exact quote is not needed here,

That's exactly what was originally asked for and you said you COULD
provide proof. We'll
wait..............................................

<snip>

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