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Angel Season Two on R2 Officially Announced (and it's good news!)

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Alex Peckover

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Feb 27, 2002, 4:20:11 AM2/27/02
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20th Century Fox Home Entertainment have announced "Angel Season 2" for
release on the 15th of April and have confirmed that the set will be
released widescreen. The Six disk set will be priced £79.99 and will feature
an 1.85:1 anamorphic picture and a DD 2.0 soundtrack. Here's the PR and a
list of episodes and extra features

http://www.r2-dvd.org/article.jsp?sectionId=2&articleId=3601

Alex


Mattia Valente

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Feb 27, 2002, 6:28:02 AM2/27/02
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Well, YAY! WIDESCREEN!!! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! TIM
MINEAR COMMENTARY!!!

Now that the positive stuff's out of the way, a hearty 'hmmmm :-/' from
me. Again, only two commentary tracks (the other one being for 'Over the
Rainbow', of all things, by Fred Keller, the director. I like director
commentaries.), compared to (apparently) the *six* tracks on the Buffy
S4 discs (pretty much confirmed, I'd think), a few stills, two shootings
scripts (again, meagre. Buffy S3 has 3, IIRC), some stills galleries, a
couple of overviews (I'm curious about the 'Season 2 overview'; that was
fun, on the S3 Buffy boxed set, mostly because of the oodles of
interview snippets with writers and actors and stuff.) and featurettes
and the like, nifty, but nothing groundbreaking. Mostly, too few
commentaries :-/

Looks like a nice package, I'll buy it, most def (gonna start looking
for the best price soon...), but I was, honestly, hoping for more.

Mattia
--
"My beagle went swimming today and now he's typing on my keyboard with
his ample nose. Oh, and he's the bestest handsomeest beagle EVER."
--Tim Minear, Salon.com, May 2001

Dan Milburn

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Feb 27, 2002, 8:25:23 AM2/27/02
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:28:02 +0000, Mattia Valente wrote:

> Alex Peckover wrote:
>>
>> 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment have announced "Angel Season 2" for
>> release on the 15th of April and have confirmed that the set will be
>> released widescreen. The Six disk set will be priced £79.99 and will
>> feature an 1.85:1 anamorphic picture and a DD 2.0 soundtrack. Here's
>> the PR and a list of episodes and extra features
>>
>> http://www.r2-dvd.org/article.jsp?sectionId=2&articleId=3601
>
> Well, YAY! WIDESCREEN!!! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! TIM
> MINEAR COMMENTARY!!!
>
> Now that the positive stuff's out of the way, a hearty 'hmmmm :-/' from
> me. Again, only two commentary tracks (the other one being for 'Over the
> Rainbow', of all things, by Fred Keller, the director. I like director
> commentaries.), compared to (apparently) the *six* tracks on the Buffy
> S4 discs (pretty much confirmed, I'd think), a few stills, two shootings
> scripts (again, meagre. Buffy S3 has 3, IIRC), some stills galleries, a
> couple of overviews (I'm curious about the 'Season 2 overview'; that was
> fun, on the S3 Buffy boxed set, mostly because of the oodles of
> interview snippets with writers and actors and stuff.) and featurettes
> and the like, nifty, but nothing groundbreaking. Mostly, too few
> commentaries :-/
>
> Looks like a nice package, I'll buy it, most def (gonna start looking
> for the best price soon...), but I was, honestly, hoping for more.
>
> Mattia

Hmm, I'm really not all that bothered by extra features myself, I still
haven't got round to watching most of the stuff on my Buffy S3 DVDs. More
commentaries might have been nice (surely 'Reprise' deserves one?), but I
can live without.

What I'd *really* like would be restoration of some of the scenes that
were cut for time, of which we know there are many. That seems unlikely
to ever happen though..

Widescreen is definitely good, even though I don't myself have a w/s TV.
Fortunately my girlfriend does. :) The thing I am slightly bothered about
is the fact that the packaging is still in that stupid book format.
Who the hell designed that? It doesn't look very good, it's totally
impractical, etc.


Dan

pikelet

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Feb 27, 2002, 8:51:02 AM2/27/02
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<daniel...@hotmail.com> declared:

> The thing I am slightly bothered about
>is the fact that the packaging is still in that stupid book format.
> Who the hell designed that? It doesn't look very good, it's totally
>impractical, etc.

/me sticks head over parapet

I think it's kinda funky, personally.

Tim.
--
Do you love your monkey,
Or do you love me?

Tony Gowland

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Feb 27, 2002, 8:55:31 AM2/27/02
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> > The thing I am slightly bothered about
> >is the fact that the packaging is still in that stupid book format.
> > Who the hell designed that? It doesn't look very good, it's totally
> >impractical, etc.
>
> /me sticks head over parapet
>
> I think it's kinda funky, personally.

Yeah, now they've got those paper sleeves in, it works pretty well, and I
much prefer it to having a bunch of the "normal" plastic DVD cases in a
box - it takes up much less space.

--
Tony Gowland
http://www.planethalflife.com/freakyzoids/
"Exciting illiterates since 1998."

Tony Gowland

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Feb 27, 2002, 8:57:28 AM2/27/02
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> Looks like a nice package, I'll buy it, most def (gonna start looking
> for the best price soon...), but I was, honestly, hoping for more.

I'm not too bothered about the extra features, really. I'll probably listen
to the commentary tracks once I've watched the whole thing, but the
featurettes in the other Buffy & Angel DVD sets I have are boring and tell
you nothing particularly new - just a bunch of people saying "yes, I
designed this weapon by buying another weapon and cutting a bit off." Wow.

www.dvd.co.uk have it for £59.99

Mattia Valente

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Feb 27, 2002, 9:14:10 AM2/27/02
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Dan Milburn wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:28:02 +0000, Mattia Valente wrote:
> Hmm, I'm really not all that bothered by extra features myself, I still
> haven't got round to watching most of the stuff on my Buffy S3 DVDs. More
> commentaries might have been nice (surely 'Reprise' deserves one?), but I
> can live without.

The commentary tracks are the best special feature, like, ever. IMO.

> What I'd *really* like would be restoration of some of the scenes that
> were cut for time, of which we know there are many. That seems unlikely
> to ever happen though..

Very, very unlikely. Would be interesting to see, though, even if
they're only there as 'cut scenes', and not re-integrated into the
episode (which would require a lot of scoring work, quite possibly...)
Also, outtakes, anyone?



> Widescreen is definitely good, even though I don't myself have a w/s TV.

Indeed-y. Eventually (read: when the one I have now breaks) I will,
though.

> Fortunately my girlfriend does. :) The thing I am slightly bothered about
> is the fact that the packaging is still in that stupid book format.
> Who the hell designed that? It doesn't look very good, it's totally
> impractical, etc.

Oh, I think it looks rather class myself. With the inserts, disc
scratching isn't really an issue any longer, but I agree it's rather
less than handy. Compact, simple, nice to look at, but not optimal as
far as getting a specific disc is concerned. It's a bit of a tradeoff:
if you want practicality, get your discs from Oz, where they all come in
Amaray cases, but take up about 4 times the amount of shelf space.

The US sets will have an 'X-files' style presentation, it seems; R1 S1
Buffy was different from the R2 set, no fancy cross shaped folding out.

Chris Ashby

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Feb 27, 2002, 9:27:18 AM2/27/02
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Dan Milburn <daniel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Scenes aren't just cut for time. As often they are cut because they simply
don't work, or drag the pacing down.

> Widescreen is definitely good, even though I don't myself have a w/s TV.
> Fortunately my girlfriend does. :) The thing I am slightly bothered about
> is the fact that the packaging is still in that stupid book format.
> Who the hell designed that? It doesn't look very good, it's totally
> impractical, etc.

I think it looks great, and is totally practical.


Chris Ashby

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Feb 27, 2002, 9:28:40 AM2/27/02
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Mattia Valente <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote in message
news:3C7CE9B2...@std.vu.nl...

> Dan Milburn wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:28:02 +0000, Mattia Valente wrote:
> > Hmm, I'm really not all that bothered by extra features myself, I still
> > haven't got round to watching most of the stuff on my Buffy S3 DVDs.
More
> > commentaries might have been nice (surely 'Reprise' deserves one?), but
I
> > can live without.
>
> The commentary tracks are the best special feature, like, ever. IMO.
>
> > What I'd *really* like would be restoration of some of the scenes that
> > were cut for time, of which we know there are many. That seems unlikely
> > to ever happen though..
>
> Very, very unlikely. Would be interesting to see, though, even if
> they're only there as 'cut scenes', and not re-integrated into the
> episode (which would require a lot of scoring work, quite possibly...)
> Also, outtakes, anyone?
>
> > Widescreen is definitely good, even though I don't myself have a w/s TV.
>
> Indeed-y. Eventually (read: when the one I have now breaks) I will,
> though.

I would be surprised if it didn't support the DVD P&S capability, if only to
crop the sides.


Tim Minear

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Feb 27, 2002, 11:39:09 AM2/27/02
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>>What I'd *really* like would be restoration of some of the scenes that
were cut for time, of which we know there are many. That seems unlikely
to ever happen though..<<

It'll happen on the season 3 set. I've culled a bunch of stuff and am working
with the DVD guys now.

Mattia Valente

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Feb 27, 2002, 11:57:10 AM2/27/02
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Ooh! Ooh! Ooh!!

YESSS!!!!!!!!!

Ahum. Sorry. Back to normalcy now. So much for my cynicism in my reply
to Dan, then. I like being wrong at times like these...

:-)

pikelet

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Feb 27, 2002, 11:57:55 AM2/27/02
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Around 27 Feb 2002 16:39:09 GMT, after erotically slowdancing for the
pleasure of uk.media.tv.angel, timm...@aol.com (Tim Minear)
declared:

Hot damn, but you rock my world. [1]

Tim.

[1] This post was brought to you courtesy of Blithering Fanboys R Us.
Currently looking for someone to keep us under their booted heel.

Dan Milburn

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Feb 27, 2002, 12:01:23 PM2/27/02
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Woo, and indeed, hoo!

Looking forward to this already, even though we're probably looking at
quite a wait before they appear. :)


Dan

Mattia Valente

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Feb 27, 2002, 12:09:30 PM2/27/02
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Dan Milburn wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:39:09 +0000, Tim Minear wrote:
>
> >>>What I'd *really* like would be restoration of some of the scenes that
> > were cut for time, of which we know there are many. That seems unlikely
> > to ever happen though..<<
> >
> > It'll happen on the season 3 set. I've culled a bunch of stuff and am
> > working with the DVD guys now.
>
> Woo, and indeed, hoo!

:-)

> Looking forward to this already, even though we're probably looking at
> quite a wait before they appear. :)

Pah, what's a year?

/me realizes that that's a long ways away. He's just in denial.

Dan Milburn

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Feb 27, 2002, 12:33:54 PM2/27/02
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:27:18 +0000, Chris Ashby wrote:

>> What I'd *really* like would be restoration of some of the scenes that
>> were cut for time, of which we know there are many. That seems
>> unlikely to ever happen though..
>
> Scenes aren't just cut for time. As often they are cut because they
> simply don't work, or drag the pacing down.

Well indeed. Which is why I said 'some'. Stuff that they really wanted
to put in put couldn't, in a 'Director's Cut' stylee. :)

>> Widescreen is definitely good, even though I don't myself have a w/s
>> TV. Fortunately my girlfriend does. :) The thing I am slightly
>> bothered about is the fact that the packaging is still in that stupid
>> book format.
>> Who the hell designed that? It doesn't look very good, it's totally
>> impractical, etc.
>
> I think it looks great, and is totally practical.

This seems to be just me doesn't it? Ah well...


Dan

Chris Ashby

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Feb 27, 2002, 12:30:56 PM2/27/02
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Tim Minear <timm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I look forward to future arguments as to what counts as canon ;)


Mattia Valente

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Feb 27, 2002, 12:47:46 PM2/27/02
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Oh dear lord....

;-P

Niall Harrison

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Feb 27, 2002, 12:46:46 PM2/27/02
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Well, that's made *my* day. :-)

Don't suppose there's any chance of more than two commentaries, as well?

Niall

--
Not upset. Broodin'.

Mattia Valente

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Feb 27, 2002, 1:20:33 PM2/27/02
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Niall Harrison wrote:
>
> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Tim Minear wrote:
> >>>What I'd *really* like would be restoration of some of the scenes that
> > were cut for time, of which we know there are many. That seems unlikely
> > to ever happen though..<<
> >
> > It'll happen on the season 3 set. I've culled a bunch of stuff and am
> > working with the DVD guys now.
>
> Well, that's made *my* day. :-)

And in so few words. What marvelous skill.



> Don't suppose there's any chance of more than two commentaries, as well?

Yeah, six or so would hit the spot...although I won't say no to 22...

;-)

Tim Minear

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Feb 27, 2002, 3:00:31 PM2/27/02
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>>Don't suppose there's any chance of more than two commentaries, as well?<<

For some reason, two is what they've asked for again. I'll ask and see why
just the two.

Tim Minear

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Feb 27, 2002, 3:01:28 PM2/27/02
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>>although I won't say no to 22...<<

Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.

Mattia Valente

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Feb 27, 2002, 3:09:38 PM2/27/02
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Tim Minear wrote:
>
> >>although I won't say no to 22...<<
>
> Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.

Well.....okay then. Director commentary on that one, then? 21 isn't a
bad number either....

Iain Clark

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Feb 27, 2002, 3:49:56 PM2/27/02
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:28:02 +0100, Mattia Valente
<mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:

>Alex Peckover wrote:
>>
>> 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment have announced "Angel Season 2" for
>> release on the 15th of April and have confirmed that the set will be
>> released widescreen. The Six disk set will be priced £79.99 and will feature
>> an 1.85:1 anamorphic picture and a DD 2.0 soundtrack. Here's the PR and a
>> list of episodes and extra features
>>
>> http://www.r2-dvd.org/article.jsp?sectionId=2&articleId=3601
>
>Well, YAY! WIDESCREEN!!! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! TIM
>MINEAR COMMENTARY!!!
>

Me wants. Lots.

Of course, I haven't bought the S1 box set yet....

Iain
--
"Signs, portents, dreams...next thing
we'll be reading tea leaves and chicken entrails."

Mattia Valente

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Feb 27, 2002, 4:01:01 PM2/27/02
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Iain Clark wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:28:02 +0100, Mattia Valente
> <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:
>
> >Alex Peckover wrote:
> >>
> >> 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment have announced "Angel Season 2" for
> >> release on the 15th of April and have confirmed that the set will be
> >> released widescreen. The Six disk set will be priced £79.99 and will feature
> >> an 1.85:1 anamorphic picture and a DD 2.0 soundtrack. Here's the PR and a
> >> list of episodes and extra features
> >>
> >> http://www.r2-dvd.org/article.jsp?sectionId=2&articleId=3601
> >
> >Well, YAY! WIDESCREEN!!! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! TIM
> >MINEAR COMMENTARY!!!
> >
> Me wants. Lots.

Yes. Me too.

> Of course, I haven't bought the S1 box set yet....

I'm buying that when it hits US shelves. Oh, and woe onto Fox if the
bastards cut the 'Previously on' sections. Woe on them.

Majuran Manohasandra

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Feb 27, 2002, 11:15:42 PM2/27/02
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"Mattia Valente" <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote in message
news:3C7D490D...@std.vu.nl...

> Iain Clark wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:28:02 +0100, Mattia Valente
> > <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:
> >
> > >Alex Peckover wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment have announced "Angel Season 2"
for
> > >> release on the 15th of April and have confirmed that the set will be
> > >> released widescreen. The Six disk set will be priced £79.99 and will
feature
> > >> an 1.85:1 anamorphic picture and a DD 2.0 soundtrack. Here's the PR
and a
> > >> list of episodes and extra features
> > >>
> > >> http://www.r2-dvd.org/article.jsp?sectionId=2&articleId=3601
> > >
> > >Well, YAY! WIDESCREEN!!! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!
TIM
> > >MINEAR COMMENTARY!!!
> > >
> > Me wants. Lots.
>
> Yes. Me too.
>
> > Of course, I haven't bought the S1 box set yet....
>
> I'm buying that when it hits US shelves. Oh, and woe onto Fox if the
> bastards cut the 'Previously on' sections. Woe on them.

That is when my R4s[1] go on ebay I guess ;)

Maj
---
[1] Which have yet to arrive due to lack of stock... arrrrrrrg!


Chris Ashby

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Feb 28, 2002, 5:52:15 AM2/28/02
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Tim Minear <timm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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We appear to have 6 on the upcoming S4 Buffy set!


Niall Harrison

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Feb 28, 2002, 2:36:10 PM2/28/02
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Tim Minear wrote:

Thanks - I think I speak for us all when I say that would be greatly
appreciated.

(All together now: "For he's a jolly good fellow...")

Niall

--
Can you take me where you're going if you're never coming back?

Niall Harrison

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Feb 28, 2002, 2:38:05 PM2/28/02
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Mattia Valente wrote:
> Iain Clark wrote:

>> Of course, I haven't bought the S1 box set yet....
>
> I'm buying that when it hits US shelves. Oh, and woe onto Fox if the
> bastards cut the 'Previously on' sections. Woe on them.

I'd forgotten about that - are the 'previouslies' going to be there for
S2?

(They need to be there for S3, certainly; am I the only one who thinks the
recap to ep nine is actually a mini-film in its own right?)

Niall

--
Fire, walk with me.

Mattia Valente

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Feb 28, 2002, 2:42:36 PM2/28/02
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Niall Harrison wrote:
>
> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Mattia Valente wrote:
> > Iain Clark wrote:
>
> >> Of course, I haven't bought the S1 box set yet....
> >
> > I'm buying that when it hits US shelves. Oh, and woe onto Fox if the
> > bastards cut the 'Previously on' sections. Woe on them.
>
> I'd forgotten about that - are the 'previouslies' going to be there for
> S2?

They'd damn well better be!!

> (They need to be there for S3, certainly; am I the only one who thinks the
> recap to ep nine is actually a mini-film in its own right?)

Well, yes. As very often :-)

Mattia Valente

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Feb 28, 2002, 2:43:13 PM2/28/02
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Niall Harrison wrote:
>
> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Tim Minear wrote:
>
> >>>Don't suppose there's any chance of more than two commentaries, as well?<<
> >
> > For some reason, two is what they've asked for again. I'll ask and see why
> > just the two.
>
> Thanks - I think I speak for us all when I say that would be greatly
> appreciated.

What he said. Niall is Most Wise[tm]. Usually.

> (All together now: "For he's a jolly good fellow...")

How...british. Ah well..

# for he's a jolly good fellow..

QrizB

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Feb 28, 2002, 3:34:24 PM2/28/02
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:43:13 +0100, Mattia Valente
<mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:

>Niall Harrison wrote:
>>
>> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Tim Minear wrote:
>>
>> >>>Don't suppose there's any chance of more than two commentaries, as well?<<
>> >
>> > For some reason, two is what they've asked for again. I'll ask and see why
>> > just the two.
>>
>> Thanks - I think I speak for us all when I say that would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>
>What he said. Niall is Most Wise[tm]. Usually.
>
>> (All together now: "For he's a jolly good fellow...")
>
>How...british. Ah well..
>
># for he's a jolly good fellow..

# for he's a jolly good fe-ell-ow...

--
QrizB

I sound like I know what I'm talking about, but don't
be fooled.

Dan Milburn

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Feb 28, 2002, 6:23:48 PM2/28/02
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:34:24 GMT, Qr...@dev.nul (QrizB) wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:43:13 +0100, Mattia Valente
><mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:
>
>>Niall Harrison wrote:
>>>
>>> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Tim Minear wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>Don't suppose there's any chance of more than two commentaries, as well?<<
>>> >
>>> > For some reason, two is what they've asked for again. I'll ask and see why
>>> > just the two.
>>>
>>> Thanks - I think I speak for us all when I say that would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>
>>What he said. Niall is Most Wise[tm]. Usually.
>>
>>> (All together now: "For he's a jolly good fellow...")
>>
>>How...british. Ah well..
>>
>># for he's a jolly good fellow..
>
># for he's a jolly good fe-ell-ow...
>

# and so say all of us!


Dan
who couldn't resist it
"Nothing's inevitable as long as you stand up, look it in the eye, and say 'you're evitable!'"

pikelet

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Feb 28, 2002, 7:07:38 PM2/28/02
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Around 27 Feb 2002 20:01:28 GMT, after erotically slowdancing for the

pleasure of uk.media.tv.angel, timm...@aol.com (Tim Minear)
declared:

>>>although I won't say no to 22...<<


>
>Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.

Were you really that unhappy with it?

Tim.

--
Because we can-can-can!

Tim Minear

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Feb 28, 2002, 8:00:25 PM2/28/02
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>Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.<<

the real Tim writes>>Were you really that unhappy with it/<<

Oh, yeah.

Niall Harrison

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Feb 28, 2002, 8:07:27 PM2/28/02
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Tim Minear wrote:

>>>Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.<<
>>
>>the real Tim writes>>Were you really that unhappy with it/<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^
:-)

> Oh, yeah.

Don't suppose you feel like explaining why? 'cause from where I'm sitting
it's hardly your best work, but does really quite a good job of making
sense of Gunn.

Niall

--
If it wasn't for the good souls
Life would not matter.

pikelet

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Feb 28, 2002, 8:57:13 PM2/28/02
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Around 01 Mar 2002 01:00:25 GMT, after erotically slowdancing for the

pleasure of uk.media.tv.angel, timm...@aol.com (Tim Minear)
declared:

>>Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.<<


>
>the real Tim writes>>Were you really that unhappy with it/<<

Woo! No longer 'the other Tim', I'm 'the real Tim'.

I feel validated again.

>Oh, yeah.

Same question as Niall, really - plotting? Writing? Directing? Lack of
goats?

Chris Ashby

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Mar 1, 2002, 6:51:54 AM3/1/02
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Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Tim Minear wrote:
>
> >>>Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.<<
> >>
> >>the real Tim writes>>Were you really that unhappy with it/<<
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> :-)
>
> > Oh, yeah.
>
> Don't suppose you feel like explaining why? 'cause from where I'm sitting
> it's hardly your best work, but does really quite a good job of making
> sense of Gunn.

Oh boy. must...resist.


natalie

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"Chris Ashby" <chris...@SPAMOFFtfeurope.com> wrote in message
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no! let us start arguing again!
for my part, i am somewhat puzzled at Niall's assertion that it made sense
of Gunn. i'd fully accept that that is what it was supposed to do, but i
think the overall outcome was that it just muddled up his character even
more.

btw, i'm joking about arguing again because in understand that there may be
no appetite for it as we did do this quite recently.

natalie


Mattia Valente

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Mar 1, 2002, 3:32:17 PM3/1/02
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pikelet wrote:
>
> Around 01 Mar 2002 01:00:25 GMT, after erotically slowdancing for the
> pleasure of uk.media.tv.angel, timm...@aol.com (Tim Minear)
> declared:
>
> >>Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.<<
> >
> >the real Tim writes>>Were you really that unhappy with it/<<
>
> Woo! No longer 'the other Tim', I'm 'the real Tim'.

ROFL!!!

> I feel validated again.

Cool. And you look funny in Niall's coat.



> >Oh, yeah.
>
> Same question as Niall, really - plotting? Writing? Directing? Lack of
> goats?

I'm curious. I'm thinking it was the goats.

Mattia Valente

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Mar 2, 2002, 11:13:51 AM3/2/02
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Dan Milburn wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:34:24 GMT, Qr...@dev.nul (QrizB) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:43:13 +0100, Mattia Valente
> ><mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:
> >
> >>Niall Harrison wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Tim Minear wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>>Don't suppose there's any chance of more than two commentaries, as well?<<
> >>> >
> >>> > For some reason, two is what they've asked for again. I'll ask and see why
> >>> > just the two.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks - I think I speak for us all when I say that would be greatly
> >>> appreciated.
> >>
> >>What he said. Niall is Most Wise[tm]. Usually.
> >>
> >>> (All together now: "For he's a jolly good fellow...")
> >>
> >>How...british. Ah well..
> >>
> >># for he's a jolly good fellow..
> >
> ># for he's a jolly good fe-ell-ow...
> >
>
> # and so say all of us!

This has got to be one of the slowest renditions of 'For He's a Jolly
Good Fellow' in the history of ever.

Niall Harrison

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Mar 2, 2002, 3:29:00 PM3/2/02
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - natalie wrote:
> "Chris Ashby" <chris...@SPAMOFFtfeurope.com> wrote in message
> news:3c7f6ba0$1...@primark.com...
>> Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
>> news:a5mk8f$fd0$1...@news.ox.ac.uk...
>> >
>> > Don't suppose you feel like explaining why? 'cause from where I'm
>> > sitting it's hardly your best work, but does really quite a good job
>> > of making sense of Gunn.
>>
>> Oh boy. must...resist.
>
> no! let us start arguing again!
>
> for my part, i am somewhat puzzled at Niall's assertion that it made sense
> of Gunn. i'd fully accept that that is what it was supposed to do, but i
> think the overall outcome was that it just muddled up his character even
> more.

Well, I now think I know why he made the choices he did in S2. I'd call
that progress.

> btw, i'm joking about arguing again because in understand that there may be
> no appetite for it as we did do this quite recently.

Thought you might be. :-)

Niall

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Could be a city thing
Could be a country thing
Could be a blues thing
Could be the real thing.

Niall Harrison

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Mar 2, 2002, 3:29:26 PM3/2/02
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Mattia Valente wrote:
> pikelet wrote:
>> Around 01 Mar 2002 01:00:25 GMT, after erotically slowdancing for the
>> pleasure of uk.media.tv.angel, timm...@aol.com (Tim Minear)
>> declared:

>> Same question as Niall, really - plotting? Writing? Directing? Lack of


>> goats?
>
> I'm curious. I'm thinking it was the goats.

Lack thereof, you mean? Or did I miss something?

Niall

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Chris Ashby

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Mar 4, 2002, 5:28:52 AM3/4/02
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Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:a5rcmc$iid$3...@news.ox.ac.uk...

> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - natalie wrote:
> > "Chris Ashby" <chris...@SPAMOFFtfeurope.com> wrote in message
> > news:3c7f6ba0$1...@primark.com...
> >> Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:a5mk8f$fd0$1...@news.ox.ac.uk...
> >> >
> >> > Don't suppose you feel like explaining why? 'cause from where I'm
> >> > sitting it's hardly your best work, but does really quite a good job
> >> > of making sense of Gunn.
> >>
> >> Oh boy. must...resist.
> >
> > no! let us start arguing again!
> >
> > for my part, i am somewhat puzzled at Niall's assertion that it made
sense
> > of Gunn. i'd fully accept that that is what it was supposed to do, but i
> > think the overall outcome was that it just muddled up his character even
> > more.
>
> Well, I now think I know why he made the choices he did in S2. I'd call
> that progress.

well, you might ... ;)


Iain Clark

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Mar 4, 2002, 1:32:33 PM3/4/02
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I agree with Niall - it made a fine job of making sense of the
inconsistencies and loose ends in Gunn's character. The only
problem is that it feels like it should have come about the same
point in the previous season!

Iain
--
"Could you learn to read minds?
In the case of mine do you read in the dark?"

anastazius

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Mar 4, 2002, 3:42:31 PM3/4/02
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> Alex Peckover wrote:

> Well, YAY! WIDESCREEN!!! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! TIM
> MINEAR COMMENTARY!!!
> >

> Looks like a nice package, I'll buy it, most def (gonna start looking
> for the best price soon...), but I was, honestly, hoping for more.
>
> Mattia


Might be ahead of you there, mate; DVD.co.uk have it going for a mere
£60! [link] http://www.dvd.co.uk/product.asp?id=22831DVD [/link]

Wasn't sure whether to get Angel S2 on DVD since I already have it on
video, (plus the cock-ups they made on the S1 DVD boxset) but now I'm
definatly getting it - oh, and this time they're *including* the
Outtakes Reel :)

Scott Kelly

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Mar 4, 2002, 4:27:05 PM3/4/02
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anastazius wrote:
>
> > Alex Peckover wrote:
>
> > Well, YAY! WIDESCREEN!!! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! TIM
> > MINEAR COMMENTARY!!!
> > >
> > Looks like a nice package, I'll buy it, most def (gonna start looking
> > for the best price soon...), but I was, honestly, hoping for more.
> >
> > Mattia
>
> Might be ahead of you there, mate; DVD.co.uk have it going for a mere
> £60! [link] http://www.dvd.co.uk/product.asp?id=22831DVD [/link]

EzyDVD.co.au has it for £56.66 at current exchange rate. That price
also includes international shipping.

Even cheaper I would have thought if you choose a slower etc. method
of shipping. Although if you'd like to receive it at some point before
Season 3 is released on DVD you may want to go for the more expensive
choice...

Then there's the pesky problem of Her Majesty's Customs and Excise
but I've had no problems at all with any DVD's from other countries
yet. And I do get through some DVD's.


Scott

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Mattia Valente

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Mar 4, 2002, 6:36:27 PM3/4/02
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Niall Harrison wrote:
>
> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Mattia Valente wrote:
> > pikelet wrote:
> >> Around 01 Mar 2002 01:00:25 GMT, after erotically slowdancing for the
> >> pleasure of uk.media.tv.angel, timm...@aol.com (Tim Minear)
> >> declared:
>
> >> Same question as Niall, really - plotting? Writing? Directing? Lack of
> >> goats?
> >
> > I'm curious. I'm thinking it was the goats.
>
> Lack thereof, you mean? Or did I miss something?

<eg>

..kidding. Lack thereof.

Mattia Valente

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Mar 4, 2002, 6:37:45 PM3/4/02
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anastazius wrote:
>
> > Alex Peckover wrote:
>
> > Well, YAY! WIDESCREEN!!! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! TIM
> > MINEAR COMMENTARY!!!
> > >
> > Looks like a nice package, I'll buy it, most def (gonna start looking
> > for the best price soon...), but I was, honestly, hoping for more.
> >
> > Mattia
>
> Might be ahead of you there, mate; DVD.co.uk have it going for a mere
> £60! [link] http://www.dvd.co.uk/product.asp?id=22831DVD [/link]

Well, haven't gone 'shopping' quite yet..

> Wasn't sure whether to get Angel S2 on DVD since I already have it on
> video, (plus the cock-ups they made on the S1 DVD boxset) but now I'm
> definatly getting it - oh, and this time they're *including* the
> Outtakes Reel :)

They are? How many seconds long is it, again? And, uh, proof?

Paul Hyett

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Mar 5, 2002, 2:51:44 AM3/5/02
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, anastazius <tkyr...@hotmail.com> stated this
considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>
>Might be ahead of you there, mate; DVD.co.uk have it going for a mere
>£60! [link] http://www.dvd.co.uk/product.asp?id=22831DVD [/link]
>
>Wasn't sure whether to get Angel S2 on DVD since I already have it on
>video, (plus the cock-ups they made on the S1 DVD boxset)

Which do you mean? Cut 'Previously' or no widescreen?
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net!

Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/


anastazius

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Mar 6, 2002, 4:29:33 AM3/6/02
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> Which do you mean? Cut 'Previously' or no widescreen?

Both - the R2 Season 1 Boxset not only was not it widescreen like it
should have been (okay, so since I've read that it seems not all the
masters were available for widescreen, or something), but they chopped
off all the 'previously' bits too - read more here:
http://217.33.154.202/index.cgi?page=Review&id=445&story=2494 - scroll
to bottom of page for comments.

Stewart Tolhurst

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Mar 6, 2002, 4:42:47 AM3/6/02
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Hasn't Mr Minear said that Angel S1 was never intended to be shown in WS?
S2 yes, S1 no as you would have techs on the edges of shot doing
unspeakable things.....

Stewart
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Alex Peckover

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Mar 6, 2002, 4:54:34 AM3/6/02
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"Stewart Tolhurst" <ne...@stolhurst.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:slrna8bpb...@localhost.localdomain...

> On 6 Mar 2002 01:29:33 -0800, anastazius <tkyr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Which do you mean? Cut 'Previously' or no widescreen?
> >
> >Both - the R2 Season 1 Boxset not only was not it widescreen like it
> >should have been (okay, so since I've read that it seems not all the
> >masters were available for widescreen, or something), but they chopped
> >off all the 'previously' bits too - read more here:
> >http://217.33.154.202/index.cgi?page=Review&id=445&story=2494 - scroll
> >to bottom of page for comments.
>
> Hasn't Mr Minear said that Angel S1 was never intended to be shown in WS?
> S2 yes, S1 no as you would have techs on the edges of shot doing
> unspeakable things.....

Tim Minear did mention that you might get teamsters picking their noses
squeezing in to the shot. From what I understand, season one was made so it
could be shown in widescreen but it was never really intended for it. Season
two was made for widescreen, with care taken to make sure everything was
framed properly, but intended to be cut down to 4:3 for most transmissions.
Season three is intended to be seen in widescreen only, with everything
framed that way.

Alex


anastazius

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Mar 7, 2002, 3:28:13 PM3/7/02
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> Tim Minear did mention that you might get teamsters picking their noses
> squeezing in to the shot. From what I understand, season one was made so it
> could be shown in widescreen but it was never really intended for it. Season
> two was made for widescreen, with care taken to make sure everything was
> framed properly, but intended to be cut down to 4:3 for most transmissions.
> Season three is intended to be seen in widescreen only, with everything
> framed that way.

Yeah, but after seeing bits of Season 1 in widescreen on the
'Introducing Angel' featurette (DVD boxset R2 that I lent off a
friend) its just made me hungry for more I guess ;)

Mike Gray

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Mar 9, 2002, 9:52:36 AM3/9/02
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> Yeah, but after seeing bits of Season 1 in widescreen on the
> 'Introducing Angel' featurette (DVD boxset R2 that I lent off a
> friend) its just made me hungry for more I guess ;)

Just as a quick warning for everyone, *beware* the R4 version - previously
all Buffy/Angel boxes have been R2/R4 dual coded, and the same [apart from
Buffy S3 and the cuts to Dead Man's Party] but from what has been said
recently on DVD forums etc... the R4 will be 4:3 Fullscreen, *ONLY* R2 will
be 16:9 Widescreen. Check out www.r2-dvd.org for more.

Mike

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