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PrestonDL

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Nov 17, 2002, 11:58:15 AM11/17/02
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Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews for
the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
Spring.

D.

Linda

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Nov 17, 2002, 12:14:32 PM11/17/02
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"Just in case" anyone is interested? :-)

Hurray! Thanks for letting us know.

Linda
alt.tv.frasier FAQ: http://www.im-listening.net/FAQ/

Val McCaffery

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Nov 17, 2002, 12:20:56 PM11/17/02
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PrestonDL <pres...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Why would you think anyone here would be interested in news like that?

<VBG>

Thank you... THANK YOU !!!! ... ***THAAANK YOOOU***

for letting us know. :-))

-Val


SgtMickey

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Nov 17, 2002, 12:40:56 PM11/17/02
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>Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
>for
>> the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
>> Spring.

Thank you:) About time:)!

S.

Kathrynethegreat

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Nov 17, 2002, 12:45:37 PM11/17/02
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! You just made my day! It's about time! Oh I am
sooo happy now!!!

Mike and Dorcie

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Nov 17, 2002, 1:02:03 PM11/17/02
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PrestonDL wrote:

WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


Dorcie

Mike and Dorcie

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Nov 17, 2002, 1:08:40 PM11/17/02
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PrestonDL wrote:

Before Charles asks, is there going to be anything done to fix the lighting
problems of the first two seasons?


Dorcie


Mike and Dorcie

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Nov 17, 2002, 1:18:10 PM11/17/02
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PrestonDL wrote:

Oh, one more thing. Though cast interviews are great and all, what about
interviews of the writers, producers and directors? I would love those even more.

Dorcie


Val McCaffery

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Nov 17, 2002, 1:18:13 PM11/17/02
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Mike and Dorcie <miken...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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I'll second that request for interviews with the writers, directors and
producers (except that I would love them *just as much*, not "more").

-Val


Bokman7757

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Nov 17, 2002, 1:53:48 PM11/17/02
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>From: pres...@aol.com (PrestonDL)

BOO-YAH!

(Suddenly realizes- dammit, I purchased those PAL VHS tapes of the first three
seasons for nothing...)

Bokman7757

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Nov 17, 2002, 2:43:14 PM11/17/02
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By the way, David, you don't mind if I shared this bit of information on
www.dvdfile.com's message boards?

(Not that I didn't go ahead anyway, but I could always delete the message...)

CPJ_II

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Nov 17, 2002, 2:41:50 PM11/17/02
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Bokman7757 wrote:

> >PrestonDL wrote:
>
> >Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
> >for the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US
> >this Spring.
>
> BOO-YAH!
>
> (Suddenly realizes- dammit, I purchased those PAL VHS tapes of the first three
> seasons for nothing...)

And the cost of the DVDs for me will likely be amortized by the fact
that I can recycle my current DV tapes for other purposes.


C.

CPJ_II

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Nov 17, 2002, 2:54:21 PM11/17/02
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Dorcie wrote:
> PrestonDL wrote:
>
> > Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews for
> > the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> > Spring.
>
> Before Charles asks, is there going to be anything done to fix the lighting
> problems of the first two seasons?

There was no problem with the lighting, rather something wrong with the
telecine transfers for the first two seasons. In many instances the
black level (ie, brightness for _darker_ portions of the image) was far
too high, effectively bleaching the image; as well, there were major
tint ('phase' in tech jargon) aberrations, with some episodes looking
far too green and others looking far too pink. Because of both these
problems the overall color accuracy and saturation for S1 & 2 was often
very poor, and not consistent with the best standards for the earlier
1990s ("90210" and "Melrose Place" looked far superior).

These problems can be corrected with an industrial proc-amp (video
processor/amplifier), so for SDTV purposes it might not be necessary to
remaster the first two seasons. I'd have to see the master tapes myself
to have a clearer handle on the problem (hint... hint...).

There's no question, however, that the overall quality of the telecasts
improved dramatically from S3 on. And the HiDef just launched for S10
is truly stupendous.

I'm fairly sure TPTB will take the requisite corrective measure for the
S1/2 release as there would be major complaints from all quarters if
they didn't.


Now......, when will "Cheers" and "Wings" be released on DVD?


C.

Anne T

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Nov 17, 2002, 3:08:14 PM11/17/02
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> PrestonDL wrote:
> Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
for the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
Spring. -- D. <

WooHooo! Wonderful!

Anne T

CPJ_II

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Nov 17, 2002, 3:03:23 PM11/17/02
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Bokman7757 wrote:
>
> Suddenly realizes- dammit, I purchased those PAL VHS tapes of the first three
> seasons for nothing...

You might be able to sell them at ebay.

C.

Donnie

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Nov 17, 2002, 3:52:41 PM11/17/02
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If you bought them for nothing then you'll make a helluva profit !

Donnie "And They Call Me Stoopid" Falcone


Jejmwest2

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Nov 17, 2002, 4:47:00 PM11/17/02
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{Hallelujah Chorus in the background!!!}

Thanks for sharing the news, David, and thanks to the forces that had to move
heaven and earth to bring it about.

I'll be the first in line around here. :-)

Emily
http://www.im-listening.net/

Mike and Dorcie

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Nov 17, 2002, 6:21:04 PM11/17/02
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CPJ_II wrote:

> Dorcie wrote:
> > PrestonDL wrote:
> >
> > > Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews for
> > > the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> > > Spring.
> >
> > Before Charles asks, is there going to be anything done to fix the lighting
> > problems of the first two seasons?
>
> There was no problem with the lighting, rather something wrong with the
> telecine transfers for the first two seasons. In many instances the
> black level (ie, brightness for _darker_ portions of the image) was far
> too high, effectively bleaching the image; as well, there were major
> tint ('phase' in tech jargon) aberrations, with some episodes looking
> far too green and others looking far too pink. Because of both these
> problems the overall color accuracy and saturation for S1 & 2 was often
> very poor, and not consistent with the best standards for the earlier
> 1990s ("90210" and "Melrose Place" looked far superior).
>

I always thought the first two seasons resembled "Cheers" in their color.

There is something I noticed in Season 8 that does involve lighting, though. For the
last two and (nearly) a half seasons the show, especially Frasier's living room, looks
very bright.

>
>
>
> I'm fairly sure TPTB will take the requisite corrective measure for the
> S1/2 release as there would be major complaints from all quarters if
> they didn't.
>

Since when has this stopped them? They didn't even clean up their "Star Trek" movies
just released this year in special editions. What makes you think they'll do better
by "Frasier"?

>
> Now......, when will "Cheers" and "Wings" be released on DVD?
>
> C.

I am shocked that "Frasier" is coming out before "Cheers".


Dorcie


CPJ_II

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Nov 17, 2002, 7:05:51 PM11/17/02
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Dorcie wrote:
> CPJ_II wrote:
> > Dorcie wrote:
> > > PrestonDL wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews for
> > > > the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> > > > Spring.
> > >
> > > Before Charles asks, is there going to be anything done to fix the lighting
> > > problems of the first two seasons?
> >
> > There was no problem with the lighting, rather something wrong with the
> > telecine transfers for the first two seasons. In many instances the
> > black level (ie, brightness for _darker_ portions of the image) was far
> > too high, effectively bleaching the image; as well, there were major
> > tint ('phase' in tech jargon) aberrations, with some episodes looking
> > far too green and others looking far too pink. Because of both these
> > problems the overall color accuracy and saturation for S1 & 2 was often
> > very poor, and not consistent with the best standards for the earlier
> > 1990s ("90210" and "Melrose Place" looked far superior).
>
> I always thought the first two seasons resembled "Cheers" in their color.

I'm only guessing, but am aware that from about the mid-80s to the
mid-90s, D2 (an industrial _composite_ [ie., not component like DVD and
all other more recent industrial digital tape formats]) was the
prevailing tape format for mastering TV shows (also laserdiscs, which
were composite rather than component [though analog, not digital]), and
may well have been used for the later seasons of "Cheers" and the first
two of "Frasier".

Even a digital composite format is much more susceptible to wide-ranging
video distortions and interference of many kinds than component video,
because the two color carriers and the black-and-white signal (which are
kept completely separate in component formats) can easily interfere with
each other, and sometimes with the audio and other info carried on
videotape. For video-acquisition purposes, especially ENG, BetacamSP
(analog, but component) was for a long time (mid-80s through mid-90s,
and still used heavily by lower-budgeted stations and networks, though
Sony recently discontinued manufacture of the BetaSP line of pro gear)
the industry standard and, if anything, looked better than D2 but, being
analog, was more vulnerable to generation loss.

[Also, BetaSP used smaller cassettes (same size as Betamax home video)
and was more convenient for news videographers, whereas D2 AFAIK was
used only for storage and playback -- I don't thnk D2 cameras ever
existed. Most industrial tape formats only play 20-60 minutes max, and
cannot be used for cable networks' and Pay-TV's longer, commercial-free
programs, which mainly use Sony's flagship Digital Betacam, probably the
best interlace standard-def TV format in existence (and only a hair less
expensive to purchase than HDTV gear; in fact Sony's HDTV gear is
essentially HiDef DigiBeta).]

The technical quality of "Cheers" has varied drastically on the numerous
different stations on which I've seen it since I began watching
"Frasier" in early 1996, though I'd say the color is almost always
desaturated, somewhat like the first two seasons of "Frasier".

One tell-tale factor of composite video is horizontal streaking
(particularly evident with titles) which most "Cheers" telecasts display
and which the first two seasons of "Frasier" also often do (my old Hi8
camera was also guilty of this).

> There is something I noticed in Season 8 that does involve lighting, though. For the
> last two and (nearly) a half seasons the show, especially Frasier's living room, looks
> very bright.

All I recall was that for a few weeks in early S8 (IIRC [I remember
posting to ATF about once or twicve at the time]) the show looked as if
they were using blue gels, most apparent in Frasier's condo (which is
mainly light colors), but also noticable in other scenes if you looked
carefully and had a properly calibrated display.

> > I'm fairly sure TPTB will take the requisite corrective measure for the
> > S1/2 release as there would be major complaints from all quarters if
> > they didn't.
>
> Since when has this stopped them? They didn't even clean up their "Star Trek" movies
> just released this year in special editions. What makes you think they'll do better
> by "Frasier"?

Because a TV series is a more rarified market and, as I've mentioned
here before, if they want to continue the syndication cash-cow when HDTV
is more established they'll _have_ to clean up the first two seasons and
it's easier and cheaper to do so now than later -- even if they don't
make buckets of money from doing so right away.

The major studios are already rethinking their approach to the release
of their top-drawer programming on video.

S1 of "TS" wasn't mastered to HiDef, but when HBO switched to HDTV for
S2, they remastered the first season on HDTV.

Similarly, the DVDs of S1 of "s&tc" looked (literally) pretty flakey,
but S2&3 are considerably better.

The studios know that in recent years North American viewers have been
watching less broadcast TV and more home video, a trend which IMO is not
likely to change. And the overwhelming worldwide success of DVD had
made videophile standards accessible to the public at large, rather than
to only a small, monied niche demographic (which was pretty well the
case for laserdisc).

> > Now......, when will "Cheers" and "Wings" be released on DVD?
>

> I am shocked that "Frasier" is coming out before "Cheers".

I'd guess the marketing strategy (or part of it) is there is greater
interest in the earlier seasons while a show is still in production, and
TPTB might even be hoping that a video release of earlier years of
"Frasier" will intensify interest in current/future production.

But I'm only speculating......


C.

David Buehrle

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Nov 17, 2002, 11:36:50 PM11/17/02
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Spring? My birthday is in April. Should I be adding DVDs to my list?


Alan E Hill

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Nov 18, 2002, 12:38:16 AM11/18/02
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Check those region 1 hacks now!!!


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CPJ_II

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Nov 18, 2002, 12:55:23 AM11/18/02
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Alan E Hill wrote:

> PrestonDL wrote:
>
> >Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews for
> >the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> >Spring.
>
> Check those region 1 hacks now!

Aren't most players sold in the UK pre-hacked?

BTW, when I looked a few days ago blackstar was still indicating an R2
DVD set of S1 "availability unknown".

But I'd be wary of a UK release if they have to make the cuts reported
for the VHS tapes -- plus the PAL speedup for anything shot at 24fps is
a major disincentive.


C.

Alan E Hill

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Nov 18, 2002, 1:34:40 AM11/18/02
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:55:23 GMT, CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> wrote:

>Aren't most players sold in the UK pre-hacked?

No. Most require a remote hack to switch to region-free or region 1
... but it's also quite easy to buy a chipped player with FBI bypass,
macrovision disabling and all-region selection for very little extra.

BTW: Is it possible to get chipped players in the US? Anyone know?

Paul Hyett

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Nov 18, 2002, 1:44:03 AM11/18/02
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as
PrestonDL <pres...@aol.com> typed this -

>Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews for
>the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
>Spring.

That's good news... but what about the UK?
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net!

Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/


CPJ_II

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Nov 18, 2002, 9:17:35 AM11/18/02
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Alan E Hill wrote:

> CPJ_II wrote:
>
> >Aren't most players sold in the UK pre-hacked?
>
> No. Most require a remote hack to switch to region-free or region 1
> ... but it's also quite easy to buy a chipped player with FBI bypass,
> macrovision disabling and all-region selection for very little extra.
>
> BTW: Is it possible to get chipped players in the US? Anyone know?

Yes -- they're readily available from many net vendors. I got my
Pioneer DV-535 from a seller in Florida via an ebay auction.

B&H in New York sells (imported, usually from Asia) multistandard VCRs,
and there are some dealers in LA and Chicago who sell imported (UK and
Oz) multistandard consumer TVs.

There are also some dealers in Toronto who sell the much-touted Malata
player which does on-the-fly conversions from PAL to NTSC (and
vice-versa) though this would not appeal to me (I use a 27" Sony pro
monitor, which is multistandard, to watch PAL DVDs).

The recently introduced Pioneer Elite DV-47 player's specs (according to
WidescreenReview) include PAL playback capability, though I'd assume
units sold in the US and Canada are Region 1 and would still have to be
hacked to play R2/PAL DVDs. The Canadian price for this unit is about
$2400.

What would really be interesting would be an R2 player with the
Sage/Faroudja FL12200 deinterlacing chip. I'd expect line-doubled PAL
DVDs would look absolutely phenomenal, though from what I've read the
hi-scan sets sold in the UK at present use this capability to double the
refresh rate to 100Hz in order to eliminate the flicker associated with
standard PAL rather than converting to progressive scan, which would
eliminate visible line structure and interlace artifacts.

Ideally, PAL should be converted to progressive scan _and_ have the
refresh rate doubled to 100Hz. Someone has recently suggested NTSC
displays at 120Hz, which would eliminate NTSC flicker (much less
noticable than for PAL, but still there) and would also eliminate the
requirement for 3-2 pulldown in displaying flim-sourced prgramming since
120 is exactly five times 24 frames ps (the rate for movies) and exactly
double the 60 fields ps rate for NTSC video sources.


C.

CPJ_II

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Nov 18, 2002, 9:19:21 AM11/18/02
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Paul Hyett wrote:
> PrestonDL typed this -

>
> >Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews for
> >the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> >Spring.
>
> That's good news... but what about the UK?

Get the US R1 discs -- you'll avoid the PAL speedup and, I assume, the
cuts which have been made for the VHS releases in the UK.

C.

Kreisleriana

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Nov 18, 2002, 9:58:18 AM11/18/02
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>ubject: FRASIER DVD
>From: pres...@aol.com (PrestonDL)
>Date: 11/17/2002 11:58 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20021117115815...@mb-fo.aol.com>

>
>Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
>for
>the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
>Spring.
>
>D.

(a la Niles)

(long pause)
. . .
. . .
. . .
. . .
. . .
What?!

Theresa
ATF FAQ, New & Improved: http://im-listening.net/FAQ/

CPJ_II

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Nov 18, 2002, 10:57:36 AM11/18/02
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Kreisleriana wrote:

> >PrestonDL wrote:
> >
> >Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
> >for
> >the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> >Spring.
> >
> >D.
>
> (a la Niles)
>
> (long pause)
> . . .
> . . .
> . . .
> . . .
> . . .
> What?!

Perhaps we'll all wake up and realize this has just been a dream, and
that we're all low-end flunkies at Paramount living in seedy older
apartment complexes in LA, doing drugs and kinky sex for recreation and,
once or twice a year, getting invited to snotty parties in the Hollywood
Hills, but more often having long coffee-klatches at Denny's ("will take
r check......").

Our only connection to TPTB will be a guy named Dave Preston who is a
dead ringer for Angelo Badalamenti.


C.

Donnie

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Nov 18, 2002, 12:57:00 PM11/18/02
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{{{{{{{God I Luv it when you talk tek}}}}}}

Donnie "Swoon" Falcone

Samantha

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Nov 18, 2002, 1:06:00 PM11/18/02
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pres...@aol.com (PrestonDL) wrote in message news:<20021117115815...@mb-fo.aol.com>...

> Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews for
> the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> Spring.
>
> D.

I, for one, am ECSTATIC!!! I've resisted purchasing a DVD player for
years...now I've finally got a reason to get one!!!!

Sam
(Who will be popping by Circuit City on her way home from work
Tuesday)


PS: Thank you, David, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

CPJ_II

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Nov 18, 2002, 2:19:42 PM11/18/02
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Donnie wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >C.
>
> {{{{{{God I Luv it when you talk tek}}}}}}
>
> Donnie "Swoon" Falcone

Too bad there are no Emmies for the internet.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<< [g] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now I'm in trivia mode -- just caught an early (1962) B&W ep of "The
Saint" and recognized John Standing in a hilarious bit part (a young
actor impersonating a gendarme at Nice). The sets seemed borrowed from
"The Roman Spring Of Mrs. Stone" (as well as Peter Dyneley, who does a
credible yank accent, and the ep's director, Peter Yates, who was
assistant director for "Mrs. S").

According to IMDb Standing (whom I once saw in "Private Lives" opposite
Maggie Smith) is the fourth baronet of something-or-other (among more
recent vintages, Laura Harring is the Countess Of Bismarck [divorced,
but allowed to keep the title]).

So......

wot sez 'Dah-neee'?


C.
(getting ready for a bone mineral density test at 3:40 pm)

Donnie

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Nov 18, 2002, 3:30:20 PM11/18/02
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{{{{Oh, say it again, say it again. Upper case Please}}}}


>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>C.
>(getting ready for a bone mineral density test at 3:40 pm)

God you know how to live you North Americans.

Donnie " Putting A Book Of Big Words On My Christmas List" Falcone


CPJ_II

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Nov 18, 2002, 6:17:08 PM11/18/02
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Donnie wrote:
>
> >According to IMDb Standing (whom I once saw in "Private Lives" opposite
> >Maggie Smith) is the fourth baronet of something-or-other (among more
> >recent vintages, Laura Harring is the Countess Of Bismarck [divorced,
> >but allowed to keep the title]).
> >
> >So......
> >
> >wot sez 'Dah-neee'?
>
> {{{{Oh, say it again, say it again. Upper case Please}}}}

"DAH-NEEEEEE"!

This is what I recall Bruce Cockburn's mother calling, when it was
dinner time and his two younger bros (John and Donny) were out playing.


> >C.
> >(getting ready for a bone mineral density test at 3:40 pm)
>
> God you know how to live you North Americans.

Hopefully...... For once they 'did' me as soon as I arrived (Dr.
Cockburn [Bruce's dad] used to be the head of radiology there; he
supervised my mother's milogram [sp?] back in 1963) and I was finished
by the time 3:40 rolled around. Had to wait almost 15 minutes before a
friend who drove me returned to the clinic.

I then fled to FurutreShop for a DVD splurge.

> Donnie " Putting A Book Of Big Words On My Christmas List" Falcone

Got "The Simpsons" S2 for two of my cousin's grandsons.


C.

Regina H.

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Nov 18, 2002, 11:31:50 PM11/18/02
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Donnie <don...@NOSPAMdinonino.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<6eaituo28uhc0v2lf...@4ax.com>...

> On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:17:35 GMT, CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> >Alan E Hill wrote:
> >> CPJ_II wrote:
> >>
> >> >Aren't most players sold in the UK pre-hacked?

<snipped for space>

> >>
>> >Ideally, PAL should be converted to progressive scan _and_ have
the
> >refresh rate doubled to 100Hz. Someone has recently suggested NTSC
> >displays at 120Hz, which would eliminate NTSC flicker (much less
> >noticable than for PAL, but still there) and would also eliminate the
> >requirement for 3-2 pulldown in displaying flim-sourced prgramming since
> >120 is exactly five times 24 frames ps (the rate for movies) and exactly
> >double the 60 fields ps rate for NTSC video sources.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >C.
>
> {{{{{{{God I Luv it when you talk tek}}}}}}
>
> Donnie "Swoon" Falcone

Gee, Donnie, if this makes you swoon, I hate to see how fast you'd
faint over some serious erotic banter. . .

<VBG>

Regina

Regina H.

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Nov 18, 2002, 11:34:26 PM11/18/02
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kreisl...@aol.comshpam (Kreisleriana) wrote in message news:<20021118095818...@mb-cv.aol.com>...

> >ubject: FRASIER DVD
> >From: pres...@aol.com (PrestonDL)
> >Date: 11/17/2002 11:58 AM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <20021117115815...@mb-fo.aol.com>
> >
> >Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
> >for
> >the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> >Spring.
> >
> >D.
>
>
>
> (a la Niles)
>
> (long pause)
> . . .
> . . .
> . . .
> . . .
> . . .
> What?!
>
>
>
> Theresa

Or in other words:

"Oh my God!"
"Oh my God!"
"Oh my GOD!!"

<g>

Regina (who is still reeling from the shock)

MM

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> Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
for
> the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
> Spring.
>
> D.

Very good! But what about Region 2 (i'm italian!)
Bye and thank you that made my dreams true
Maina


Paul Hyett

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Nov 19, 2002, 2:37:04 AM11/19/02
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as
CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> typed this -

I have a chipped player, but not a TV that can handle NTSC pictures. My
PC can, but it's not situated somewhere I can get comfy to watch them.

I don't see why they'd be cut though, AFAIK the videos weren't (unless
anyone here knows different)? The TV broadcasts are uncut too.

Donnie

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Nov 19, 2002, 2:09:13 PM11/19/02
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00-44-01555-674549

Donnie "So Easy To Test" Falcone*

* Don't it's nothing like my real number.

Alan E Hill

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Nov 19, 2002, 4:45:20 PM11/19/02
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:09:13 +0000, Donnie
<don...@NOSPAMdinonino.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>00-44-01555-674549
>
>Donnie "So Easy To Test" Falcone*
>
>
>
>* Don't it's nothing like my real number.

Plus you need to lose the zero on the area code ...

... pedantic? Moi?

However, I did call 01555 674549 and ordered you a (2A) meal for 2
plus a 34 and a 65 with extra prawn crackers.

Alan E Hill

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Nov 19, 2002, 4:45:22 PM11/19/02
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:37:04 +0000, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I don't see why they'd be cut though, AFAIK the videos weren't (unless
>anyone here knows different)? The TV broadcasts are uncut too.

It would appear that there are things like music rights (ie: Great
Balls of Fire) where the copyright holders in the US may be different
from the copyright holders in the UK/Europe, say.

I recall that the GBoF episode was shown on C4 complete, but I can't
recall that scene being repeated on ParamountComedy.

Donnie

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Nov 19, 2002, 5:11:21 PM11/19/02
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:45:20 GMT, Alan E Hill <ny...@u-v-y-y.arg>
wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:09:13 +0000, Donnie
><don...@NOSPAMdinonino.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>00-44-01555-674549
>>
>>Donnie "So Easy To Test" Falcone*
>>
>>
>>
>>* Don't it's nothing like my real number.
>
>Plus you need to lose the zero on the area code ...
>
>... pedantic? Moi?
>
>However, I did call 01555 674549 and ordered you a (2A) meal for 2
>plus a 34 and a 65 with extra prawn crackers.

Goddamn you Hill.

I f*ckin hate thirty f*ckin four's.

You ought to know that, you, you, lickspittle.

Donnie "I Mean " Falcone


CPJ_II

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Nov 19, 2002, 6:05:36 PM11/19/02
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Donnie wrote:
> >
> ><snipped for space>
> >
> >>> >Ideally, PAL should be converted to progressive scan _and_ have
> >> >the refresh rate doubled to 100Hz. Someone has recently suggested
> >> >NTSC displays at 120Hz, which would eliminate NTSC flicker (much less
> >> >noticable than for PAL, but still there) and would also eliminate the
> >> >requirement for 3-2 pulldown in displaying flim-sourced prgramming since
> >> >120 is exactly five times 24 frames ps (the rate for movies) and exactly
> >> >double the 60 fields ps rate for NTSC video sources.
> >> >
> >> >C.
> >>
> >> {{{{{{{God I Luv it when you talk tek}}}}}}}
> >>
> >> Donnie "Swoon" Falcone
> >
> >Gee, Donnie, if this makes you swoon, I hate to see how fast you'd
> >faint over some serious erotic banter. . .
> >
> ><VBG>
> >
> >Regina
>
> 00-44-01555-674549
>
> Donnie "So Easy To Test" Falcone*

Are you available on code-free DVD?


C.

Regina H.

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Nov 19, 2002, 7:42:52 PM11/19/02
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What a pity. . .:-)

Regina

Alan E Hill

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Nov 20, 2002, 11:14:05 AM11/20/02
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:05:36 GMT, CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> wrote:

>Are you available on code-free DVD?

R (18) rated DVD, for sure ...

Donnie

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Nov 20, 2002, 11:35:10 AM11/20/02
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:05:36 GMT, CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> wrote:

Well, I can sit on one naked if you really want me to.

Donnie " That Was A Joke" Falcone *

* It's an English legal thing.


Paul Hyett

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Nov 20, 2002, 2:35:37 AM11/20/02
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Alan
E Hill <ny...@u-v-y-y.arg> typed this -

>On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:37:04 +0000, Paul Hyett
><pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I don't see why they'd be cut though, AFAIK the videos weren't (unless
>>anyone here knows different)? The TV broadcasts are uncut too.
>
>It would appear that there are things like music rights (ie: Great
>Balls of Fire) where the copyright holders in the US may be different
>from the copyright holders in the UK/Europe, say.
>
>I recall that the GBoF episode was shown on C4 complete, but I can't
>recall that scene being repeated on ParamountComedy.
>
I remember seeing it on my tapes, which were made from the PCC
transmissions.

Exactly which episode was that in, anyway?

CPJ_II

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Nov 20, 2002, 4:40:23 PM11/20/02
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Alan E Hill wrote:

> CPJ_II wrote:
>
> >Are you available on code-free DVD?
>
> R (18) rated DVD, for sure ...

Whaaaaat........?

Not NC-17...?

<g>

C.

CPJ_II

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Nov 20, 2002, 4:54:10 PM11/20/02
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Donnie wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Gee, Donnie, if this makes you swoon, I hate to see how fast you'd
> >> >faint over some serious erotic banter. . .
> >> >
> >> ><VBG>
> >> >
> >> >Regina
> >>
> >> 00-44-01555-674549
> >>
> >> Donnie "So Easy To Test" Falcone*
> >
> >Are you available on code-free DVD?
>
> Well, I can sit on one naked if you really want me to.

If your butt fits on a DVD you must be incredibly trim and
slight-physiqued. I expect many people would be interested in seeing
the photo (for wide-ranging reasons......).

> Donnie " That Was A Joke" Falcone *

C. "me too..."

> * It's an English legal thing.

Is it illegal in the UK to strip with a DVD in the room?

C.

CPJ_II

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Nov 20, 2002, 4:55:19 PM11/20/02
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Paul Hyett wrote:
>
> >I recall that the GBoF episode was shown on C4 complete, but I can't
> >recall that scene being repeated on ParamountComedy.
> >
> I remember seeing it on my tapes, which were made from the PCC
> transmissions.
>
> Exactly which episode was that in, anyway?

"Daphne's Room" (S2)


C.

Donnie

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Nov 20, 2002, 5:23:15 PM11/20/02
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:54:10 GMT, CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> wrote:

>Donnie wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Gee, Donnie, if this makes you swoon, I hate to see how fast you'd
>> >> >faint over some serious erotic banter. . .
>> >> >
>> >> ><VBG>
>> >> >
>> >> >Regina
>> >>
>> >> 00-44-01555-674549
>> >>
>> >> Donnie "So Easy To Test" Falcone*
>> >
>> >Are you available on code-free DVD?
>>
>> Well, I can sit on one naked if you really want me to.
>
>If your butt fits on a DVD you must be incredibly trim and
>slight-physiqued. I expect many people would be interested in seeing
>the photo (for wide-ranging reasons......).

How much in $ are we talking about?

>
>> Donnie " That Was A Joke" Falcone *
>
>C. "me too..."
>
>> * It's an English legal thing.
>
>Is it illegal in the UK to strip with a DVD in the room?

No, (well I don't think so <g>) but there have just been some new laws
outlined, in the UK, to help catch paedophiles on the Internet. The
offence of "grooming" has been, well, sorry, made an offence and I
didn't want any lurker or newbie to think I was in anyway whatsoever
making fun of such a subject.

For the record I frown on trials for Paedophiles. Turn them over to
the parents and let them sort them out.

Donnie "If I've Offended Anyone In The 'Personal Rights Business' Then
Fuck You" Falcone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>C.


CPJ_II

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Nov 20, 2002, 5:26:41 PM11/20/02
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Donnie wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Donnie "So Easy To Test" Falcone*
> >> >
> >> >Are you available on code-free DVD?
> >>
> >> Well, I can sit on one naked if you really want me to.
> >
> >If your butt fits on a DVD you must be incredibly trim and
> >slight-physiqued. I expect many people would be interested in seeing
> >the photo (for wide-ranging reasons......).
>
> How much in $ are we talking about?

Ask Herb Ritts.

> >Is it illegal in the UK to strip with a DVD in the room?
>
> No, (well I don't think so <g>) but there have just been some new laws
> outlined, in the UK, to help catch paedophiles on the Internet. The
> offence of "grooming" has been, well, sorry, made an offence and I
> didn't want any lurker or newbie to think I was in anyway whatsoever
> making fun of such a subject.
>
> For the record I frown on trials for Paedophiles. Turn them over to
> the parents and let them sort them out.
>
> Donnie "If I've Offended Anyone In The 'Personal Rights Business' Then
> Fuck You" Falcone

I'm afraid to ask what "grooming" now means!

C.

Donnie

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Nov 20, 2002, 5:36:53 PM11/20/02
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:26:41 GMT, CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> wrote:

?
>>
>> No, (well I don't think so <g>) but there have just been some new laws
>> outlined, in the UK, to help catch paedophiles on the Internet. The
>> offence of "grooming" has been, well, sorry, made an offence and I
>> didn't want any lurker or newbie to think I was in anyway whatsoever
>> making fun of such a subject.
>>
>> For the record I frown on trials for Paedophiles. Turn them over to
>> the parents and let them sort them out.
>>
>> Donnie "If I've Offended Anyone In The 'Personal Rights Business' Then
>> Fuck You" Falcone
>
>I'm afraid to ask what "grooming" now means!

It means making "friends" of a young boy or girl via the Internet
whilst pretending to be of the same age and thence urging them to meet
in real life and...guess the rest.

Don.
>


CPJ_II

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Nov 20, 2002, 9:38:04 PM11/20/02
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Donnie wrote:

> CPJ_II wrote:
>
> >> The offence of "grooming" has been, well, sorry, made an offence and
> >> I didn't want any lurker or newbie to think I was in anyway whatsoever
> >> making fun of such a subject.
> >>
> >> For the record I frown on trials for Paedophiles. Turn them over to
> >> the parents and let them sort them out.
> >>
> >> Donnie "If I've Offended Anyone In The 'Personal Rights Business' Then
> >> Fuck You" Falcone
> >
> >I'm afraid to ask what "grooming" now means!
>
> It means making "friends" of a young boy or girl via the Internet
> whilst pretending to be of the same age and thence urging them to meet
> in real life and...guess the rest.

Learn something new every day -- I guess I should be watching more of
the latest UK TV series!

C.

Alan E Hill

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Nov 21, 2002, 3:19:34 AM11/21/02
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:40:23 GMT, CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> wrote:

>Whaaaaat........?
>
>Not NC-17...?

Is that what I meant?

Alan E Hill

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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:35:10 +0000, Donnie
<don...@NOSPAMdinonino.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Well, I can sit on one naked if you really want me to.

Is that the Royal "one"?

Paul Hyett

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Nov 21, 2002, 2:34:50 AM11/21/02
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as

CPJ_II <CP...@rogers.com> typed this -
Thanks - checked my tape of that episode, and it was there.

Donnie

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Nov 21, 2002, 2:45:15 PM11/21/02
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>> >
>> >I'm afraid to ask what "grooming" now means!
>>
>> It means making "friends" of a young boy or girl via the Internet
>> whilst pretending to be of the same age and thence urging them to meet
>> in real life and...guess the rest.
>
>Learn something new every day -- I guess I should be watching more of
>the latest UK TV series!
>
I think we're at cross purposes. This is the Law (or will be) and the
phrase is "new" in the legal context. It has nothing to do with TV
programmes.

Don.

Laura Brown

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Nov 24, 2002, 7:43:01 PM11/24/02
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>Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
>for
>the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
>Spring.
>
>D.

I stare at my current tv screen, a crappy recording on a The Gift Horse, and at
my floor, flooded with radomnly recorded tapes, all mixed up in order and not
one a first run (before season 8), and I sigh a great deal of relief.
Haleluyah! And many hugs... :0)

~Laura (who can confidently throw out her hastily collected episodes now)

Laura Brown

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Nov 24, 2002, 7:46:15 PM11/24/02
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>> Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
>for
>> the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
>> Spring.
>>
>> D.
>
>Spring? My birthday is in April. Should I be adding DVDs to my list?

LOL! I have just finished running into the bathroom to inform my mother that I
have my birthday list set up. May it be here in time for your birthday, and
mine, on the 11th. Oh heck, I'm sure we could wait a month for it.

~Laura

Kathrynethegreat

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Nov 24, 2002, 8:46:42 PM11/24/02
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>>Just in case anyone is interested, tomorrow we are filming cast interviews
>>for
>>the FRASIER DVDs. The first two seasons will be released in the US this
>>Spring.
>>
>>D.

If the first two seasons do not sell well, will the following seasons be
released? I have noticed that Friends has its season one out on DVD, but has
yet to release any other seasons. I am somewhat hesitant to toss my Frasier
tapes if there is a chance that the other seasons on DVD will not follow.
Anyone have any idea?

Katie

Mike and Dorcie

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Nov 24, 2002, 9:00:52 PM11/24/02
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Kathrynethegreat wrote:

Season 2 came out several months ago and Season 3 should be out in a couple of
months.


Dorcie

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