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bloss...@lrc.edu

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Feb 3, 1993, 3:29:18 PM2/3/93
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What kind of a sport is darts, anyway?
I see no self-indulgence in throwing pieces of plastic and metal at a board,
but you guys have fun anyways.....


Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen

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Feb 4, 1993, 3:44:46 AM2/4/93
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We will :-) But maybe you would consider the sport of kicking a piece
of dead cow or pig around a green field, whilst being dressed up as
the mutants from hell? Or there's a another sport in which 2 teams beat
eachother up, whilst standing on frozen water! They use sticks to do this
too!

--Ralph

Jeffrey Neau

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Feb 4, 1993, 9:32:21 AM2/4/93
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Makes just a much sense as any of these:

Putting a piece of inflated cow through a metal hoop
Slapping a piece of plastic into a net
Hitting a ball back and forth for 5 hours in 110 degree heat
Pounding the crap out of another human until he is brain dead

My definition of sport:

Direct competion against another player or team where their performance (or
lack of) will physically factor into your performance.

Non-sports
Golf (the other players have no factor in your performance)
Bowling (ditto)
Running (ditto)
Gymnastics (ditto)
Archery

Sports:
Basketball
Football
Hockey
Baseball
Tennis
Wrestling
Boxing
Fencing
(you get the picture)
..
..
And even Darts is a sport!

In cricket (or other popular dart games), the other players' performance
does factor into how you will do.


Jeff

Trevor Taylor

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Feb 4, 1993, 11:08:11 AM2/4/93
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Sorry Ralph, but I've got the perfect self-induldgent sport for
this ..... git. FERRET LEGGING.

First, one puts on a pair of woolen trousers. Under wear is illegal.
Second, rope is secured around the cuffs at the ankle.
Third, two hungry ferrets are dropped down the top of the trousers
Fourth, a belt is pulled tight to seal the waist.
Fifth, the happy contestant has to stand there and see how long
he can take it.

The current world record is about 6 hours.

I think this would be a perfect challenge to set for the gentlemen
looking for a good, intellectual sport.

Trevor

John Penix

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Feb 4, 1993, 2:11:24 PM2/4/93
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In article <1993Feb3....@lrc.edu> bloss...@lrc.edu writes:
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Sounds like someone got their butt kicked at darts over the weekend.

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jpe...@uceng.uc.edu Electrical and Computer Engineering

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Dave Wagner

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Feb 4, 1993, 5:11:34 PM2/4/93
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In article <1993Feb3....@lrc.edu>, bloss...@lrc.edu writes:
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>
I don't know, I'd say any sport you can play while holding and drinking a beer
is a fine sport indeed.
--
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Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen

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Feb 5, 1993, 4:03:38 AM2/5/93
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In article <1993Feb4....@hemlock.cray.com>, je...@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:
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> My definition of sport:
>
> Direct competion against another player or team where their performance (or
> lack of) will physically factor into your performance.
>
> Non-sports
> Golf (the other players have no factor in your performance)
> Bowling (ditto)
> Running (ditto)
> Gymnastics (ditto)
> Archery
>
> Sports:
> Basketball
> Football
> Hockey
> Baseball
> Tennis
> Wrestling
> Boxing
> Fencing
> (you get the picture)

I don't think I agree with you definition. My definition would be that a sport
has to have :
1) The elements of a game (i.e. rules, equipment etc.)
2) A physical or mental effort
3) A competition element.

I would think this is the definition most people use.

--Ralph

Jeffrey Neau

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Feb 4, 1993, 5:58:18 PM2/4/93
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In article <1993Feb4.1...@hemlock.cray.com> da...@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner) writes:
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>In article <1993Feb3....@lrc.edu>, bloss...@lrc.edu writes:
>>
>>
>> What kind of a sport is darts, anyway?
>> I see no self-indulgence in throwing pieces of plastic and metal at a board,
>> but you guys have fun anyways.....
>>
>>
>I don't know, I'd say any sport you can play while holding and drinking a beer
>is a fine sport indeed.
>--
>Dave Wagner


Good point Dave! I've tried doing that with baseball and it doesn't quite
work...

If you REALLY think about it, all sports/games have pretty dumb concepts, but
people think they are fun, so they play them.

"Hey Wilbur, let's slap this petrified cookie around on the ice and punch
each other!"

bi...@kean.ucs.mun.ca

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Feb 5, 1993, 10:41:15 AM2/5/93
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In article <1993Feb4....@hemlock.cray.com>, je...@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:
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> My definition of sport:
>
> Direct competion against another player or team where their performance (or
> lack of) will physically factor into your performance.
>
> Non-sports
> Golf (the other players have no factor in your performance)
> Bowling (ditto)
> Running (ditto)
> Gymnastics (ditto)
> Archery

Wrong wrong wrong. These are sports, by most definitions. The other
player factor is definitely present, especially in running. How can
you say that the other players have no factor? Have you never run in
a footrace, on a track?
....


> And even Darts is a sport!

Well, yes it is, of course, but according to your definition and
above, it can't be... Just how different is Darts from Archery, for
example?

No, your definition is no good.

> In cricket (or other popular dart games), the other players' performance
> does factor into how you will do.

Well, yes, directly, indeed, but not really.... WhatImeantosay is :
sure it affects _what_ you will do, because what you have to do is
_defined_ by what the other player does. Also, when the other player
hits a 140 or 180 in a regular game, that affects your performance, too,
although it shouldn't. But once the other player has shot, and you get
on the line, you should be able to mask out all external influences and
shoot your best shot regardless of conditions. (Hard to do, true...)

Your definition could possibly be used for contact-sports vs non-contact.

There _is_ an "official" definition somewhere in Ontario, I think. Those
Ontarians are very officious. 8^)

It makes a difference to them because they take the voluntary taxes
people pay through government lotteries and give some of it away to
"SPORTS". Darts, in Ontario, can't get any of this money because it
is not considered a sport, because, I am told, there are not enough
muscle groups involved in the game. I think they are full of it.
Bureaucrats sticking their noses into people's games, now. They
should try playing in a weekend competition and _then_ decide if
it a sport. It is only the fit who survive, and a professional dart
player is an athlete just as much as is a professional bowler. Maybe
not in most people's eyes as much as a hockey player, perhaps, but
I disagree. When it comes right down to it, chess is a sport, as
is bridge. Ever try to sit through a weekend bridge tournament and
stay alert, active, and motivated every deal? Athletes survive and
win. Wimps do not. Believe me, I am a fat wimp, I know. But I always
did say that darts is a great game for fat athletes. 8^) 8^) 8^)

> Jeff
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