Electric dog collar for human male training?
Laura Goodwin
collars for Bruce. I'm not going to put it around his neck, don't
worry! ;)
I prefer one that's waterproof, and a smaller unit would be better. The
least expense one I have found so far retails for around 130.00 bucks.
Anybody know a wholesaler that might work with me?
--
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Come to my arms, my beamish boy!"
Laura Goodwin
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M. Shirley Chong
> I'm looking for a good deal on one of those remote control training
> collars for Bruce. I'm not going to put it around his neck, don't
> worry! ;)
Why would I worry? I've put the Tri-Tronics one around my own neck with
a number 5 plug and pushed down both buttons (highest possible
intensity). It was an incredibly unpleasant experience but it didn't
kill me. It doesn't kill dogs, either--who usually have much less body
mass than an adult human male.
I've even met a few dogs that were trained with two collars
simultaneously (because they could blow right through a single collar).
> I prefer one that's waterproof, and a smaller unit would be better. The
> least expense one I have found so far retails for around 130.00 bucks.
> Anybody know a wholesaler that might work with me?
With shock collars, you definitely get what you pay for. The cheaper
collars aren't as sturdy or as waterproof (which may not be a major
consideration with a human being--even a rowdy human is rarely as hard
on equipment as the average dog!); they also tend to be more prone to
being triggered by things like garage door openers. The transmitters on
the pricier collars transmit a coded impulse, rather than the equivalent
of a simple "yes," which cuts down greatly on the false triggers (I
train dogs for a living, I don't do electronics... the only remotes I
can operate with total certainty are the ones for my shock collars, the
TV remote is beyond me! <G>).
Innotek makes the smallest (reliable) units. Several of their collars
have internal antennas. The cheapest Innotek is the Free Spirit Basic
Trainer BT-50; the range is 50 yards (which isn't good for dogs but
might be fine for humans), three levels of stimulation, and the collar
is water resistant rather than waterproof. The best price I can find on
it is from The Dog's Outfitter (800-367-3647): $123.19 + shipping.
A step up would be the Innotek Smart Dog Trainer--50 yard range (see
comments above), four levels of stimulation but no mention if the collar
is water resistant or waterproof (which I would guess means that it
isn't either). The Dog's Outfitter has it for $153.99 + shipping.
The lowest end Innotek I would use on a dog would be the Economy Free
Spirit, which has a 300 yard range (the minimum range I would consider
adequate for a dog), seven levels of stimulation, magnetic on/off switch
and waterproof. The Dog's Outfitter sells this one for $214.79 +
shipping (just in case anyone reading this is thinking about getting one
for a dog).
The way the stimulation levels work on the Tri-Tronics, Radartron and
Innotek collars that I am most familiar with is that the very lowest and
the very highest possible settings are pretty much the same from collar
to collar within the same brand. The collars that have three levels of
stimulation cover the same range (from low to high) as the collars that
have 15 or more levels, which means that in the collars with fewer
levels of stimulation, the difference between levels is much greater.
The great virtue of the Innotek collars is that with the ones I've used,
the level of stimulation is set from the transmitter. The Tri-Tronics
collars that I'm familiar with have a plug system, so that the trainer
has to manipulate the collar in order to change the level of
stimulation. Tri-Tronics offsets this disadvantage a bit by putting two
buttons on its transmitters for a total of three possible levels (top
button is level one, bottom button is level two, both buttons together
is level three); combining the three possible levels for each plug gives
them the 15 levels of stimulation.
I do have a catalog from Collar Clinic (800-430-2010), which sells
reconditioned Tri-Tronics and Radartron collars. The prices on the
reconditioned collars appear to be approximately 25% less than the same
collar new. I have not done business with this place personally.
More than you ever wanted to know about shock collars, I'm sure!
Shirley
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MstrssDomi
Laura Goodwin wrote:
> I'm looking for a good deal on one of those remote control training
> collars for Bruce. I'm not going to put it around his neck, don't
> worry! ;)
>>
But..........a fun thing to do with a shock collar is put it around the sub's
leg under slacks or jeans and take him to a restuarant to eat. As you sit
there ordering or what have you, just give him a little "buzz" and watch him
jump!!! The waiter will wonder what in the world is going on!! <g>
My other favorite way to use a shock collar is to again, put it around their
leg, send them off to bed in the evening if they are fortunate enough to be
staying, and when I awake in the morning, give them a little "wake up buzz" to
summon them to my presence.
At any rate, it was well worth the money spent and I have enjoyed mine
tremendously!!!! I bet you will enjoy yours as well.
Wicked regards,
Dominique
mord...@voyager.net
.....a fun thing to do with a shock collar is put it around the sub's
>leg under slacks or jeans and take him to a restuarant to eat. As you sit
>there ordering or what have you, just give him a little "buzz" and watch him
>jump!!! The waiter will wonder what in the world is going on!! <g>
>
>My other favorite way to use a shock collar is to again, put it around their
>leg, send them off to bed in the evening if they are fortunate enough to be
>staying, and when I awake in the morning, give them a little "wake up buzz" to
>summon them to my presence.
>
>At any rate, it was well worth the money spent and I have enjoyed mine
>tremendously!!!! I bet you will enjoy yours as well.
>
Having enormously enjoyed excursions to one restuarant or another with
a Domme friend and her sub (who is often forbidden to use silverware
in public), I can't wait to introduce her to this idea. Come to think
of it, that summoning technique would work on my next visitor just as
well.
Thank you most largely there, MstrssDomi.
muahahhahaha,
Arathorne.
WimpyDom
severe for most people.
They do make some that are adjustable in intensity. If you find one that is
reasonable please post what you found.
--
wimpy dom
"Do it, and do it good, or I'll hold my breath."
Laura Goodwin
>
> Laura Goodwin wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a good deal on one of those remote control training
> > collars for Bruce. I'm not going to put it around his neck, don't
> > worry! ;)
> >>
>
> leg under slacks or jeans and take him to a restuarant to eat. As you sit
> there ordering or what have you, just give him a little "buzz" and watch him
> jump!!! The waiter will wonder what in the world is going on!! <g>
>
> My other favorite way to use a shock collar is to again, put it around their
> leg, send them off to bed in the evening if they are fortunate enough to be
> staying, and when I awake in the morning, give them a little "wake up buzz" to
> summon them to my presence.
>
> At any rate, it was well worth the money spent and I have enjoyed mine
> tremendously!!!! I bet you will enjoy yours as well.
Thanks for your comments. Actually I was planning on strapping the
thing to his genitals, right under his nuts. Since it tends to be a
sweaty area, I want to be sure the unit is waterproof, expecailly since
he is often diapered. I could diaper him, put him to bed in his little
slave cot downstairs, then in the morning I wouldn't have to even turn
over in bed to wake him, I could just push a button. :)
Laura Goodwin
> Why would I worry? I've put the Tri-Tronics one around my own neck with
> a number 5 plug and pushed down both buttons (highest possible
> intensity). It was an incredibly unpleasant experience but it didn't
> kill me.
LOL! What an image!
> With shock collars, you definitely get what you pay for. The cheaper
> collars aren't as sturdy or as waterproof (which may not be a major
> consideration with a human being--even a rowdy human is rarely as hard
> on equipment as the average dog!); they also tend to be more prone to
> being triggered by things like garage door openers.
ROFL! What an image!
> Innotek makes the smallest (reliable) units. Several of their collars
> have internal antennas. The cheapest Innotek is the Free Spirit Basic
> Trainer BT-50; the range is 50 yards (which isn't good for dogs but
> might be fine for humans), three levels of stimulation, and the collar
> is water resistant rather than waterproof. The best price I can find on
> it is from The Dog's Outfitter (800-367-3647): $123.19 + shipping.
Ah, thanks, you just saved me a hell of a lot of investigative work.
> I do have a catalog from Collar Clinic (800-430-2010), which sells
> reconditioned Tri-Tronics and Radartron collars. The prices on the
> reconditioned collars appear to be approximately 25% less than the same
> collar new. I have not done business with this place personally.
>
> More than you ever wanted to know about shock collars, I'm sure!
This was very helpful, thanks a lot. It does seem as if Innotek has a
monopoly of sorts, huh?
=Jaguar=
>I looked into that once and the info I got was that those things are far too
>severe for most people.
Let them *suffer*! [g]
>They do make some that are adjustable in intensity. If you find one that is
>reasonable please post what you found.
I'm not sure what your price range for *reasonable* is,
but most of them cost $130 and UP. You may be looking
for cheaper. Least expensive may do the trick, but the
model we have ... was $190 when we bought it, but is now
$220 ... is one from Innotec and which has a longer range
and 7 intensity levels versus 3 intensity levels for the
basic model which is $160.
It works great -- well for HER it does ... ;*) -- either
around the house or out on the town. Unless you want to
end up in a car accident, I don't suggest using it while
he's driving, but otherwise it's great to use to summon
or correct him in most all other situations.
The longer range of the one we have works great through
walls and floors from anywhere throughout the house or
yard and while shopping in a mall or such if he starts
to stray too far away ... :*). Trying not to overreact
to the shocks and attract attention, especially while in
public, is a major undertaking. Imagine him doing an
impromptu and mysterious Irish jig in the middle of a
mall walk or shop -- hilarious!
It also works great at play parties where, with a little
training, you can have him amaze others by having him
do things for you without even asking ... just a few
short buzzes and voila, he does your unspoken bidding!
If others don't know about it they will think you are
using ESP and telepathy! In our case, she uses 2 short
buzzes to retrieve me to her side, 3 short buzzes means
to get her a drink, and 5 longer buzzes means to "dance"
-- quite involuntarily I assure you!
Here are the descriptions:
FS-50A - Free Spirit (300 Yard Range) $219.95
Trainers and companion pet owners who need basic control and
the ability to reinforce commands in basic obedience and
beginning field work situations rely on the Free Spirit Model
FS-50A. Like the rest of the compact Free Spirit line, the
FS-50A now has no extrenal antenna on the receiver. The
transmitter’s original 6” antenna has been replaced by a
permanent ferrite, whcih allows it to maintain its full
transmitting capacity. The waterproof collar receiver weighs
less than 3 ounces and is potted solid for ruggedness. Like
all Innotek remote training collars stimulation levels are
adjustable from the transmitter. Range: Up to 300 yards in
flat, open terrain.
Features Include:
•1 oz. transmitter with single-button, continuous stimulation
•Seven stimulation levels to match virtually any dog’s temperament
•Compact (3 oz.) waterproof collar receiver with rechargeable NiCad battery.
•Innotek’s patented SMART Charge system to eliminate overcharging
•Up to 300 yards in flat, open terrain.
•1-Year Warranty
Picture at: "http://www.dog-training.com/images/fs50a.jpg"
Model BT-100A - Innotek Basic Trainer $159.95
The Basic Trainer offers everything necessary for the dog owner
who strives for polished obedience. Ultra-compact, with a 1 oz.
transmitter, 2.5 oz. collar receiver and adjustable nylon collar
strap. And there are no antennas to break, snag or lose. The
rechargeable Basic Trainer has a range of up to 100 yards. It
offers three stimulus levels instantly adjustable at the
transmitter so you can tailor the correction to your dog's
temperament. Includes two sets of contact probes, test light
and battery charger.
Features Include:
•Single-button, 1 oz. transmitter
•Rugged, waterproof collar receiver
•Three stimulation levels, instantly adjustable from the transmitter
•Compact (3 oz.) collar receiver with rechargeable NiCad battery
•Innotek’s exclusive SMART Charge system to eliminate overcharging
•Up to 100 yards range
•One-year warranty
Picture at: "http://www.dog-training.com/images/bt100a.jpg"
The entire webpage with additional information is located at:
"http://www.dog-training.com/innotek.htm"
I hope you find one within your preferred price range and with
the capabilities you require.
=Jaguar= ... WOOF! WOOF!
Visit Jaguar's Adult Toy and Apparel web page at:
"http://www.jagworld.com/bdsm/jag-toys.htm"
Laura Goodwin
> The longer range of the one we have works great through
> walls and floors from anywhere throughout the house or
> yard and while shopping in a mall or such if he starts
> to stray too far away ... :*). Trying not to overreact
> to the shocks and attract attention, especially while in
> public, is a major undertaking. Imagine him doing an
> impromptu and mysterious Irish jig in the middle of a
> mall walk or shop -- hilarious!
Thanks very much for this entertaining and informative post. I don't
want people thinking I'm cheap or anything...it's just that we're buying
a house and are set to close next week, so the toy budget isn't all I
would hope for.
I love the idea of being able to signal him from a distance without a
sound (from me). I'll probably lock it on him with some chastity-belt
type device.
M. Shirley Chong
> M. Shirley Chong wrote:
>
> > Why would I worry? I've put the Tri-Tronics one around my own neck with
> > a number 5 plug and pushed down both buttons (highest possible
> > intensity). It was an incredibly unpleasant experience but it didn't
> > kill me.
>
> LOL! What an image!
That experience did make me glad that I had gotten a collar that as soon
as you let up on the transmitter button(s), the shock stops. <G>
<<<snippage>>>
> This was very helpful, thanks a lot. It does seem as if Innotek has a
> monopoly of sorts, huh?
Oh dear, I didn't mean to give you that idea! Tri-Tronics and Radartron
also manufacture very fine collars! The drawback to their collars is
that the receiver unit (the actual collar) is much larger than the
Innotek. Tri-Tronics are greatly favoured by gundog trainers because
they are incredibly rugged and have an incredible range (some of their
models have a 3 mile range!).
But for what I'm guessing your purposes are, the Innotek seems to me to
be the best choice. The collar unit is very small, about the size of two
of those miniature boxes of wooden matches that some restaurants and
bars give out as promotional items. The transmitter is equally small,
which I imagine would be more discreet. Tri-Tronic and Radartron
transmitters are baton-shaped, have antennas and are quite obvious.
Shirley
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M. Shirley Chong
> I looked into that once and the info I got was that those things are far too
> severe for most people.
Well, as in all things, YMMV. What is too intense for one person is a
yawner for another. Before I ever put a collar on one of my dogs, I
tried it out on myself. I wouldn't describe it as a pleasant experience
but it didn't kill me. The lowest level of stimulation on the
Tri-Tronic, Innotek and Radartron collars is a barely perceptible
tingle--to me (yes, I've tried them out on myself).
I do have a funny story about a shock collar. A friend of mine (not a
pervert) had one as part of his dog training business. He is also a
father. One day he was out in the kennel yard and heard gales of
laughter alternating with silence. Being an experienced parent, he
immediately went to investigate.
His two sons were about 10 and 12 at the time. They and four of their
friends were sitting in a circle, playing with the shock collar. They
had progressed up to trying the highest level of shock and were now
competing to see who could hold it to his arm for the full ten seconds
(after which, this particular model would automatically re-set).
> They do make some that are adjustable in intensity. If you find one that is
> reasonable please post what you found.
As far as I know, all of the collars made by Tri-Tronics, Radartron and
Innotek are adjustable in intensity by one means or another. Some of
them have to be adjusted at the collar unit (less convenient,
particularly if said collar is on the dog that is headed off into the
next county), some of them are adjustable in part or fully at the
transmitter.
Some of the cheaper bark collars have only one level of intensity--but a
bark collar does not have a transmitter, so it can't be used as a remote
control collar. If anyone reading this is thinking of buying a bark
collar, look for one that has a built-in re-set period of at least 3
seconds. If the collar doesn't have a re-set period (a period during
which the collar will not shock the dog) what happens is that the dog
barks, gets shocked, yelps in surprise/pain, gets shocked, yelps, gets
shocked... etc, etc. Not nice and some dogs are likely to get hysterical
and do terrible damage to themselves or their surroundings.
If there is more than one dog in the immediate area or if you live in a
noisy area, make sure the collar is triggered via a vibration sensor
rather than a microphone. Otherwise the dog gets shocked for other dog's
barks or cars backfiring, etc. Don't put a bark collar on a dog and turn
the dog loose with another dog. Dogs tend to blame whatever it is that
they were close to when they were shocked and if what they were close to
was another dog, some dogs attack the other dog. The noise of the fight
keeps setting off the collar, which greatly intensifies the fight--Dog
One thinks Dog Two is attacking without warning and Dog Two thinks Dog
One attacked without warning!
There are bark collars on the market that emit an ultra-sonic noise in
response to barks. These are not effective with most dogs but if you
have a dog that is very soft and easily impressed, it may work.
There is a pricy alternative to the electric shock bark collar--a collar
which shoots a mist of citronella. These are often perceived to be more
humane or gentler, which I vehemently disagree with (from my
observations of dogs wearing them, I believe the citronella collar is
perceived by the dog as being far more aversive than an electric shock).
This perception is probably driven by the human's vastly inferior
olfactory sense. However, there is no disputing that the citronella
collars are more effective with a higher percentage of dogs than the
electric shock bark collars.
Laura Goodwin
>
> Laura Goodwin wrote:
> > This was very helpful, thanks a lot. It does seem as if Innotek has a
> > monopoly of sorts, huh?
>
> Oh dear, I didn't mean to give you that idea! Tri-Tronics and Radartron
> also manufacture very fine collars!
That's OK, I got the idea last night when I did an excite search and all
I kept finding was Innotek and people who sold Innotek.
That Innotek salesforce has been *busy*!
what's in a name?
<lal...@altavista.net> wrote:
>
> That's OK, I got the idea last night when I did an excite search and all
> I kept finding was Innotek and people who sold Innotek.
Try http://www.smarthome.com they have a number of "pet" control
products. I haven't done business with them, but do have their catalog.
Radio fence collers (including the stubborn dog version), electrostatic
scat mats (delievers a static type shock if you touch it), a
remote-controlled traing coller and an area control coller that uses a
radio transmitter. All sorts of interesting toys to train that unruly sub
with...
Jerry
>
> That Innotek salesforce has been *busy*!
>
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Laura Goodwin
> There is a pricy alternative to the electric shock bark collar--a collar
> which shoots a mist of citronella. These are often perceived to be more
> humane or gentler, which I vehemently disagree with (from my
> observations of dogs wearing them, I believe the citronella collar is
> perceived by the dog as being far more aversive than an electric shock).
> This perception is probably driven by the human's vastly inferior
> olfactory sense.
Thank you! Just because we as humans don't sense the offense doesn't
mean no offense is given! Dogs do have noses which are unimaginably
more sensitive than ours, and in fact, it's their primary sensory tool.
To zap 'em with a lingering odor is really cruel.
wbo...@my-dejanews.com
Laura Goodwin <lal...@altavista.net> wrote:
> Thanks for your comments. Actually I was planning on strapping the
> thing to his genitals, right under his nuts. Since it tends to be a
> sweaty area, I want to be sure the unit is waterproof, expecailly since
> he is often diapered. I could diaper him, put him to bed in his little
> slave cot downstairs, then in the morning I wouldn't have to even turn
> over in bed to wake him, I could just push a button. :)
Ouch! Is this just a fantasy, or have you done some safety research on this?
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Laura Goodwin
> Ouch! Is this just a fantasy, or have you done some safety research on this?
Actually, we got the idea from some femdom pals of ours who are already
using one this way. I've been taking advice, and am open to more. :)
M. Shirley Chong
note:
> Laura Goodwin <lal...@altavista.net> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your comments. Actually I was planning on strapping the
> > thing to his genitals, right under his nuts. Since it tends to be a
> > sweaty area, I want to be sure the unit is waterproof, expecailly since
> > he is often diapered. I could diaper him, put him to bed in his little
> > slave cot downstairs, then in the morning I wouldn't have to even turn
> > over in bed to wake him, I could just push a button. :)
If you're using the collar on a wet area, figure that each level of
stimulation is equal to the next higher on dry skin. This is true of
dogs, I don't see any reason it wouldn't be true of people. The dampness
or wetness increases the conductivity of the area.
wbo...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Ouch! Is this just a fantasy, or have you done some safety research on this?
I've never strapped a collar to a guy's nuts--but I have used a shock
collar on my own neck. These collars are designed to be used on dogs.
Depending on the brand, the lower limit for the dog's bodyweight is 5 to
15 pounds. I don't know Laura Goodwin or her husband but I think it's
pretty safe to say that he exceeds 15 pounds by a factor of at least
eight or more! The distance between the two electrodes is less than two
inches--there's not much chance of passing current over the heart with
those dimensions.
The only safety concern I would have is in how long the bottom wears the
collar. If you leave a shock collar on a dog too long, the electrodes
can wear sores into the skin. A general rule of thumb for dogs is that
the dog can wear the collar up to 16 hours a day without problems.
The pain from a shock collar is really strange (to me). It doesn't build
up at all, it's just ***THERE*** instantaneously. And it's gone just
about as fast (not quite, but almost). YMMV of course.
wbo...@my-dejanews.com
"M. Shirley Chong" <eit...@forest.avalon.net> wrote:
>
> I've never strapped a collar to a guy's nuts--but I have used a shock
> collar on my own neck. These collars are designed to be used on dogs.
> Depending on the brand, the lower limit for the dog's bodyweight is 5 to
> 15 pounds. I don't know Laura Goodwin or her husband but I think it's
> pretty safe to say that he exceeds 15 pounds by a factor of at least
> eight or more! The distance between the two electrodes is less than two
> inches--there's not much chance of passing current over the heart with
> those dimensions.
>
> The only safety concern I would have is in how long the bottom wears the
> collar. If you leave a shock collar on a dog too long, the electrodes
> can wear sores into the skin. A general rule of thumb for dogs is that
> the dog can wear the collar up to 16 hours a day without problems.
>
> The pain from a shock collar is really strange (to me). It doesn't build
> up at all, it's just ***THERE*** instantaneously. And it's gone just
> about as fast (not quite, but almost). YMMV of course.
>
> Shirley
>
> to reply, take the trees out of my e-mail address
I think electricity has a lot of , errr, potential. <g>
After reading everything I could find on the WWW, though, I still don't think
I know what the risks really are. I did read one story about someone who
apparently fried his balls with a stero. I don't know for sure if this story
is true. I assume the damage in this case (assuming it did actually happen)
was done by burning.
Other warnings I've read point to the dangers of involuntary muscle
contractions. This is probably not a direct problem in this case, though I
can easily imagine Laura's poor husband banging his head on the crib when he
gets zapped while he's sleeping.
Binder
Oh Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! (For the physics impaired reader: potential
describes the total available energy from any given electrical source.
Low voltage and lots of amps or high voltage and low amperage, both with
the same potential.)
> After reading everything I could find on the WWW, though, I still don't think
> I know what the risks really are.
I've never gotten a really clear answer myself. I have followed the
"nothing above the waist" guideline with the TENS unit in play practice,
but I've also taken 110 VAC across the chest without any (apparent) ill
effects. Accidentally, BTW. Not that I'd want to repeat the experience,
but then, I'm not a masochist. Why mention this incident? Across the
chest is the classic electric no-no; the heart is quite susceptible to
outside elctrical stimulation and is easily confused by same. As few as
200 milliamps *may* cause the heart to stop beating.
To reduce the risk of unwanted shock damage assuming "safe" electrical
potential levels (whatever those are: a) *never* play (with electricity,
silly!) barefoot on concrete. In the absence of a path to ground (yup,
same ground we walk on) electricity tends to follow paths on the surface
of the body rahter than pass through it. and b) make sure there are no
paths that cross the heart between the electrode(s) and a potential
ground, as in where a dog collar is around a leg and the opposite (!)
hand touching a faucet, guardrail or concrete wall.
Binder
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Binder <bin...@idjit.jps.net> wrote:
>
>I've never gotten a really clear answer myself. I have followed the
>"nothing above the waist" guideline with the TENS unit in play practice,
>but I've also taken 110 VAC across the chest without any (apparent) ill
>effects.
First a disclaimer. I don't know what I'm talking about. Not
a bit. My nom-de-net is taken as a short form of a philosphers
name, not as the electrical term. Don't take my experience as
anything more than one experience.
I've done TENS above the waist, once or twice. On the lower
back it has done some wonders in terms of persistant tension,
to say nothing of it's scene value. I've also used a TENS unit
on my arms (keeping the contacts on the same arm mind you).
I know a person who uses his TENS units as abdominal exercizer,
and something worked there.
You'd know if you had done it wrong, as the danger is
disrupting the heart, and that's something you'd notice.
It's a yes-no proposition, if you don't get ill effects,
there's no partial failure.
Volt
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=Jaguar=
><lal...@altavista.net> posted:
>>=Jaguar= wrote:
>> The longer range of the one we have works great through
>> walls and floors from anywhere throughout the house or
>> yard and while shopping in a mall or such if he starts
>> to stray too far away ... :*). Trying not to overreact
>> to the shocks and attract attention, especially while in
>> public, is a major undertaking. Imagine him doing an
>> impromptu and mysterious Irish jig in the middle of a
>> mall walk or shop -- hilarious!
>
>Thanks very much for this entertaining and informative post. I don't
>want people thinking I'm cheap or anything...it's just that we're buying
>a house and are set to close next week, so the toy budget isn't all I
>would hope for.
I can understand the tight money supply in your circumstances. We
just moved and closed on a house this past January. Luckily for us
though, our "toy" chest was already filled to overflowing and, other
than some bondage furniture we're holding off on getting on till the
kids 18/20 move out (soon we hope ... :*) we're pretty well-equipped.
>I love the idea of being able to signal him from a distance without a
>sound (from me). I'll probably lock it on him with some chastity-belt
>type device.
That'll work, but it'll probably look like he's either very well-endowed
or wearing a cod piece when out in public. It'd be quite a package for
sure!
=Jaguar=
or out in public.
WimpyDom
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<wbo...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>After reading everything I could find on the WWW, though, I still
>don't think I know what the risks really are. I did read one
>story about someone who apparently fried his balls with a stero.
>I don't know for sure if this story is true. I assume the damage
>in this case (assuming it did actually happen) was done by
>burning.
If verifiable, this is *definitely* a nominee for the Darwin
award {http://www.officialdarwinaward.com}
Check {http://ws.bassengineering.com/electroc.htm} for more on
electrical safety.
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wbo...@my-dejanews.com
-^-^spectrum-^^- <spectrum@red.&.magenta.com> wrote:
> Check {http://ws.bassengineering.com/electroc.htm} for more on
> electrical safety.
Can't find it, even with some alternate spelling attempts. So far the WWW
information that I've found that has the most info is a three part article,
the first part of which is at:
http://www.queernet.org/LeatherOnline/LO_004.html