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Word 33

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Jun 2, 2001, 2:29:53 AM6/2/01
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Rosa Crusian-What is it. I been trying to look it up I cant find it on the web
now I am trying newsgroups. I heard it is a universal spiritual plane you
achieve by intence study of Metaphysics and buddhism.

Please anyone with info into this please lead me to the right path to get an
understanding.

Thanks
Email wor...@aol.com

Foon

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Jun 2, 2001, 6:42:48 AM6/2/01
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"Word 33" <wor...@aol.com> wrote in message
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It's a misspelling. Read Umberto Eco's "Focault's (sp?) Pendulum" to read
about every conspiracy theory all combined, including the Rosicrucians (the
Order of the Rosy Cross). ;)
- Foon
"Save the Whooping Snails!"

greengables

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Jun 2, 2001, 8:33:26 AM6/2/01
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That would be Foucault's Pendulum if I recall and Rosicrusians. Great book by
my favorite semiologist.
Greenie

Foon

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Jun 2, 2001, 10:43:08 AM6/2/01
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"greengables" <uma913...@aol.commimetic> wrote in message
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Sorry about the spelling. And I don't even know what a "semiologist" is.
But Eco is a hell of a writer. Very subtle. His "The Name of the Rose" is
a fave... but so is "The Last of Sheila" (Sondheim & Perkins, a whole other
discussion).
- Foon

Fred Wolff

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Jun 2, 2001, 11:02:08 AM6/2/01
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>Sorry about the spelling. And I don't even know what a "semiologist" is.

That's someone who deals in the art (or science, if you will) of sign language,
or different methods of signalling (i.e., semaphore).

I didn't know what it was either till I looked it :-))


greengables

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Jun 2, 2001, 6:41:26 PM6/2/01
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Off topic, perhaps. he is one of my favs.

Umberto Eco is a literary theorist and before he started writing novels he
wrote an elaborate theory and was one of the founders of the new literary
theory of semiology following.
The new literary ideas grew largely out of the work of Ferdinand de Saussure (
1857-1913) credited as the founder of modern linguistics and structuralism. His
work consisted of trying to analyze how language makes sense to us,
concentrating on how it works as a self-governing system in the present rather
than concentrating on how it evolved over time. ( etymology).
For example: saussure implise that there is no direct causal relation between a
rose and the ltters R-O-S-E, it is purely a matter of social convention rather
than a natural bond between words and things.
he belived that all culture is made up of signs. Or social life is
characterized by the exchange and circulation of forms which have an agreed
upon meaning.
Semiology deals with the social and politcal dimensions of signs as a branch of
structuralism to put in into basic terms.
In 1984 Eco wrote an essay called ' A guide to the Neo-Television of the
1980's" and argued that Tv is so absorbed with itself that it has now turned
its back on the real world (and probably the same could be said of movies).
Eco observes as a result of what he sees as the current pessimism in the
present historical movement a return to the attitudes of the middle ages and
the preoccupation with the middle ages is ubiquitous in his fictional works.
However, he is much better known for his grand theories which are long, very
long and very clear.
" Once upon a time there was the mass media, and they were wicked, of course,
and there was a guily party. then there were the virtuous voices that accused
the criminals. And art (ah, what luck!) offered alternatives, for those who
were not the prisoners of the mass media. Well. it's all over. We have to start
again from the beginning, asking one another what's going on"
(Umberto Eco, travels in Hyperreality,p.150.)

As for semiology, here is a little joke we used to tell about it in grad school
because it is a science that demands participation from every reader and
speaker and in that sense has no principles--you must discover them and study
your environment-- but it is a sort of methodology to use in your everyday
life.

What is the difference between a mafioso and a semiologist?
A mafioso will make you an offer you can't refuse.
And a semiologist will make you one you can't understand.

Greenie.
I am a latter day semiologist by the way.
Greenie

greengables

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Jun 2, 2001, 6:42:32 PM6/2/01
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Sorry, not in this context.
Greenie
Greenie

Doppelganger39

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Jun 2, 2001, 9:42:31 PM6/2/01
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>Subject: Re: Rosa Crusian a spiritual plane of laws of the universe????
>From: uma913...@aol.commimetic (greengables)
>Date: 6/2/01 6:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010602184126...@ng-cr1.aol.com>
>AB.....CD Goldfish? LMNO Goldfish! OSAR Goldfish? sometimes I'm a semi
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greengables

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Jun 2, 2001, 9:47:14 PM6/2/01
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Don't get the OSAR goldfish but I like the cracker concept.
Luv U.
Greenie

Derek N.P.F. Juhl

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Jun 3, 2001, 2:56:30 AM6/3/01
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fredwin...@aol.comnocrap (Fred Wolff) wrote in message news:<20010602110208...@ng-fc1.aol.com>...

> >Sorry about the spelling. And I don't even know what a "semiologist" is.
>
> That's someone who deals in the art (or science, if you will) of sign language,
> or different methods of signalling (i.e., semaphore).

Alternative definitions for "semiologist":

1. Half a scholar
2. One who studies large trucks

...Not to be confused with "demiologists," who analyse Demi Moore.

N.b. Just silly late-night joking here, with no implications or offence intended to anyone. :)

Derek

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