Various energy DE > ENG

[Alan Johnson]

Hello group,

"Grundsatzuntersuchung"

The further context is a company manufacturing power generation plant,
small and large. The "Grundsatzuntersuchung" is one of their (potential)
customer services. I would like to go for "feasibility study".

"Erstellung von indivduellen *Regelkonzeptionen*"

Here, it's the "Regelkonzeptionen". Control ???concept??? I would assume
that the "Regel" is as in "Regelung" (der Anlage).

"Holzgas"

List item of possible combustibles.

Many thanks and

Best wishes

--
Alan Johnson - freelance translations
http://www.geotrans-online.de
German - English
Geology & Geotechnics / Technical & Engineering

[Klas Törnquist]

"Holzgas" could possibly mean "producer gas" or "wood gas".

I think a variety of this was used for propulsion of motor vehicles e.g.
during WW II. They attached some sort of wood burner to the cars and lead
the gas to the engine.

HTH

Klas

[Alan Johnson]

Klas Törnquist wrote:

> "Holzgas" could possibly mean "producer gas" or "wood gas".
>
> I think a variety of this was used for propulsion of motor vehicles e.g.
> during WW II. They attached some sort of wood burner to the cars and lead
> the gas to the engine.

That's right Klas, I've read about them, but only in German.

[Oliver Walter]

Alan Johnson wrote:
>
> Hello group,
>
> "Grundsatzuntersuchung"
>
> The further context is a company manufacturing power generation plant,
> small and large. The "Grundsatzuntersuchung" is one of their (potential)
> customer services. I would like to go for "feasibility study".
>
> "Erstellung von indivduellen *Regelkonzeptionen*"
>
> Here, it's the "Regelkonzeptionen". Control ???concept??? I would assume
> that the "Regel" is as in "Regelung" (der Anlage).

I would think so. Maybe it could be called a "control plan" -
that would, I suppose, consist of such decisions as which
sensors and actuators to use and where to put them. There's a
newsgroup called (IIRC) sci.eng.control - people there would
know the current jargon for that.

--
Oliver
Real email address (with obvious interpretation)
oliver AT tiara DOT demon DOT co DOT uk

[Alan Johnson]

Oliver Walter wrote:

> Alan Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Hello group,
> >
> > "Grundsatzuntersuchung"
> >
> > The further context is a company manufacturing power generation plant,
> > small and large. The "Grundsatzuntersuchung" is one of their (potential)
> > customer services. I would like to go for "feasibility study".
> >
> > "Erstellung von indivduellen *Regelkonzeptionen*"
> >
> > Here, it's the "Regelkonzeptionen". Control ???concept??? I would assume
> > that the "Regel" is as in "Regelung" (der Anlage).
>
> I would think so. Maybe it could be called a "control plan" -
> that would, I suppose, consist of such decisions as which
> sensors and actuators to use and where to put them.

Exactly.

> There's a
> newsgroup called (IIRC) sci.eng.control - people there would
> know the current jargon for that.
>
> --
> Oliver
> Real email address (with obvious interpretation)
> oliver AT tiara DOT demon DOT co DOT uk

Excellent Oliver, thanks.

[Wolfgang Schill]

Alan Johnson schrieb:

>
> Hello group,
>
> "Grundsatzuntersuchung"
>
> The further context is a company manufacturing power generation plant,
> small and large. The "Grundsatzuntersuchung" is one of their (potential)
> customer services. I would like to go for "feasibility study".

>[...]

Ich kenne nur "Machbarkeitsstudie" als Äquivalent zu "feasability
study".
Möglicherweise findet eine Grundsatzuntersuchung noch vor der
Machbarkeitsstudie statt?

--
Wolfgang Schill

[Alan Johnson]

Wolfgang Schill wrote:

Hmmm, thanks Wolfgang. And to all others. I would appreciate further
suggestions though.

Regards

[Nick Worley]

Hi Alan

This is only a guess, but could the Grundsatzuntersuchung be a
basic/preliminary study/survey/investigation (since Grundsätze can translate
as basics, fundamentals; grundsätzlich fundamentally, basically)?

Konzeption can translate as design. Could "Erstellung von indivduellen
Regelkonzeptionen" be something like "Creating individual control designs"
(designed controls?)?

Ernst and Duden Oxford give wood gas for Holzgas, although I've no idea what
that is.
In any case, I don't use it at home, I use wood electricity, ha ha.

I found this on the net:

http://www.zetatalk.com/energy/tengy14e.htm
"wood gas: if you place normal wood, or even charred wood inside an
air-tight container that includes one outlet and then heat the container
very hot, as putting it in a bed of coals, the wood inside will be converted
to charcoal. During this process and after the water vapor in the wood is
driven off (and out the outlet), many hydrocarbon gases including hydrogen,
methane, and then propane and butane will also be driven out the outlet.
Should this outlet be connected to something like a propane carburetor (used
by many farmers for the last 30 years), the gas produced by heating wood in
the absence of oxygen will easily run the engine.
The carburetor replacements can be easily obtained and are much simpler than
a gasoline carburetor. With such a setup one could easily run a good size
generator with all the charred wood laying around after the firestorms, or
dead trees because of the lack of sufficient sunlight. Also, you end up with
plenty of charcoal that can be used for cooking, heating, and firing the
wood gas maker. Definitely something to follow up."

I saw a programme on TV a few months back about these people on an island
who used coconut oil to run their cars because there'd be a coup or
something and no petrol was being delivered to the island. The could eat the
coconuts, drink the milk, make soap from it, make cooking oil and use the
oil in their cars. I never realized how versatile the coconut is.

Hope this helped a bit
Bye
Nick

[Alan Johnson]

Hi Nick,

Nick Worley wrote:

> Hi Alan
>
> This is only a guess, but could the Grundsatzuntersuchung be a
> basic/preliminary study

preliminary study sounds good

> /survey/investigation (since Grundsätze can translate
> as basics, fundamentals; grundsätzlich fundamentally, basically)?
>
> Konzeption can translate as design. Could "Erstellung von indivduellen
> Regelkonzeptionen" be something like "Creating individual control designs"

That's nice too, I'll work on it

>
> (designed controls?)?
>
> Ernst and Duden Oxford give wood gas for Holzgas, although I've no idea what
> that is.
> In any case, I don't use it at home, I use wood electricity, ha ha.

ha

>
>
> I found this on the net:
>
> http://www.zetatalk.com/energy/tengy14e.htm
> "wood gas: if you place normal wood, or even charred wood inside an
> air-tight container that includes one outlet and then heat the container
> very hot, as putting it in a bed of coals, the wood inside will be converted
> to charcoal. During this process and after the water vapor in the wood is
> driven off (and out the outlet), many hydrocarbon gases including hydrogen,
> methane, and then propane and butane will also be driven out the outlet.
> Should this outlet be connected to something like a propane carburetor (used
> by many farmers for the last 30 years), the gas produced by heating wood in
> the absence of oxygen will easily run the engine.
> The carburetor replacements can be easily obtained and are much simpler than
> a gasoline carburetor. With such a setup one could easily run a good size
> generator with all the charred wood laying around after the firestorms, or
> dead trees because of the lack of sufficient sunlight. Also, you end up with
> plenty of charcoal that can be used for cooking, heating, and firing the
> wood gas maker. Definitely something to follow up."

Well, I know what it is actually, I've just never heard it in english

>
>
> I saw a programme on TV a few months back about these people on an island
> who used coconut oil to run their cars because there'd be a coup or
> something and no petrol was being delivered to the island. The could eat the
> coconuts, drink the milk, make soap from it, make cooking oil and use the
> oil in their cars. I never realized how versatile the coconut is.
>
> Hope this helped a bit
> Bye
> Nick

A lot Nick, as usual!

Many thanks and

best wishes

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.lang.translation that Nick Worley <nickAARDVARKworley@btin
ternet.com> wrote (in <9n7qn1$5nrcr$1...@ID-90070.news.dfncis.de>) about
'Various energy DE > ENG', on Thu, 6 Sep 2001:

>I saw a programme on TV a few months back about these people on an island
>who used coconut oil to run their cars because there'd be a coup or
>something and no petrol was being delivered to the island. The could eat the
>coconuts, drink the milk, make soap from it, make cooking oil and use the
>oil in their cars. I never realized how versatile the coconut is.

Those are *diesel* cars. But the oil, I believe, makes the most
unbelievable gungy mess of the engine.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk
Eat mink and be dreary!