Electronic Pest Repeller
Dana Carpender
truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
(Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
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Author, How I Gave Up My Low Fat Diet -- And Lost Forty Pounds!
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Nick Spalding
> Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
> truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
> I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
> (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
The one I bought certainly did NOT work on mice; so far as I could see
they totally ignored it. Brand name 'Attack Wave Pestrepeller', made in
Taiwan. Plenty of mouse traps was the answer.
--
Nick Spalding
Doug Yanega
<dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
> Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
> truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
> I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
> (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
They are proven NOT to work on insects, at least, and the FDA has issued
consumer warnings that they are fraudulent. Theoretically, it's illegal to
advertise them.
Doug Yanega Dept. of Entomology
Entomology Research Museum Univ. of California
Riverside, CA 92521 909-787-4315 (opinions are mine, not UCR's)
http://entmuseum9.ucr.edu/staff/yanega.html
"There are some enterprises in which a careful disorderliness is
the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick
Bill Diamond
Yanega) irgendwie gejammert:
>In article <3A7C5F0D...@kiva.net>, Dana Carpender
><dcar...@kiva.net> wrote:
>
>> Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
>> truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
>> I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
>> (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
>
>They are proven NOT to work on insects, at least, and the FDA has issued
>consumer warnings that they are fraudulent. Theoretically, it's illegal to
>advertise them.
Sheesh. You're such an innocent. I'd market these devices in a flash,
sloganing them as "The secret technology the government doesn't want
you to have!"
I'd make a zillion bucks off the rubes.
Rich Clancey
+ Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
+ truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
+ I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
+ (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
Based on anecdotes from other people who've tried em, I'd say
they don't work on raccoons or deer.
--
rich clancey r...@world.std.com rcla...@massart.edu
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Rick B.
> + Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
> + truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
> + I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
> + (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
"Some ultrasound firms say their products will also repel mice, rats,
roaches, bats, fleas, spiders, and the like. The evidence to date
suggests these claims are greatly exaggerated. At best they work only
when used in conjunction with a concerted anti-pest program involving
traps, improved sanitation, elimination of entry points and nesting
places, and so on."
--C.A. (http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_068.html)
Good thing you don't have the roaches, though, because they don't work
at all on insects.
Rick B.
Don Middendorf
>
> Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
> truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
> I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
> (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
Anectodes say they're useless, what science that's been done suggests
they're useless. Get a cat, if you can't get a cat, get a pack of
Victor(TM) mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter, and just close
your eyes when you're emptying them. (They're cheap enough to throw away
if you're really squeamish about dead or dying rodents.)
Don Middendorf
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
>truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
>I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
>(Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
They don't work on flying squirrels, I can assure you of that. We
trapped two in the kitchen last night & had a full house in the
Hav-a-harts or we would have gotten the 3rd who ran behind the stove.
If you look on the net carefully, you find info that says, basically,
save your moola. We had read it & tried anyway.
The dog & birds do not seem to be bothered in the slightest, tho.
boron
Michael Lorton
> Dana Carpender (dcar...@kiva.net) wrote:
> + Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
> + truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
> + I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
> + (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
>
> Based on anecdotes from other people who've tried em, I'd say
> they don't work on raccoons or deer.
They work on ME! They drive me absolutely berzerk. My neighbor was
using one in a futile effort to scare raccoons off his walnut tree.
Of course, it's an open question in some minds whether I count as
vermin.
M.
Boron Elgar
<mlo...@civetsystems.com> wrote:
Um....you pick up vibes on your bridgework, or what?
Boron
mje
> truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets.
So
> I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
They don't work on insects at all, and they generally do not work on
rodents, either.
You *can* repel rodents with certain high frequencies... until they
become used to the sound. But these cheap boxes aren't terribly
frequency stable, and generally they have no effect at all.
Best way to get rid of mice is to seal up all openings where they can
get in, and trap the ones who remain. That's it.
--
Michael Edelman
http://www.foldingkayaks.org
http://www.findascope.com
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Michael Lorton
It sounds like a high-pitched hissing. It drove me crazy trying to
find the source of the noise. I thought there might be something
wrong with the wiring in my house (I know, I know, but I couldn't
think of anything else), until on a very quiet night I wandered around
my backyard carefully triangulating.
Fortunately, my neighbor was a sport about getting rid of it (since it
wasn't working anyway...)
M.
Shotgun Mosquito
>they're useless. Get a cat, if you can't get a cat, get a pack of
>Victor(TM) mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter, and just close
>your eyes when you're emptying them. (They're cheap enough to throw away
>if you're really squeamish about dead or dying rodents.)
Or, if you're not into cats, a rat terrier.
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Lalbert1
<mlo...@civetsystems.com> writes:
>It sounds like a high-pitched hissing. It drove me crazy trying to
>find the source of the noise. I thought there might be something
>wrong with the wiring in my house (I know, I know, but I couldn't
>think of anything else), until on a very quiet night I wandered around
>my backyard carefully triangulating.
>
>
How do you triangulate for a noise source in a backyard? Or were you just
milling around randomly until the noise got louder?
Les
Lalbert1
>Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
>truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
>I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
>(Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
I don't know about rodents, but they definitely work on mosquitoes. I bought a
key chain sized ultrasonic thingy at The Nature Company, and I was able to
smash a mosquito on the wall with it. Didn't even have to put in batteries.
Les
Michael Lorton
No, I stood in one place and the sound came from THAT direction, I
stood in another place and it came from THAT direction. After a few
places and a few THATs, it became clear where the source was.
Louder and softer didn't seem to help much (in retrospect, because the
source was further away than I was expecting).
M.
N Jill Marsh
Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> wrote in message
news:3A7C5F0D...@kiva.net...
> Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
> truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
> I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
> (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
I was given one a few years ago. My 13 year old blind arthritic doggie did
a better job with the rats (though maybe they was stunned by the whiner).
The one I had warned that it would bother pets like guinea pigs, rabbits,
rats & possibly FERRETS! I could hear it when I was in the garage, although
it wasn't particularly annoying (though it might have been if it was in the
house.)
nj"don't your ferrets work for a living?"m
--
"See, here he comes stealing through the undergrowth, his face shining with
the light of pure intelligence. There are no limits to Jeeve's brain power.
He virtually lives on fish."
rob...@bestweb.net
>> >> + Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various
>>pests find >> + truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it
>>won't bother pets. So >> + I need to know -- do they work?
>>Specifically, do they work on mice? >> + (Don't have roaches, or
>>anything like that.) >>
>> >> Based on anecdotes from other people who've tried em, I'd say
>> >> they don't work on raccoons or deer.
>> >They work on ME! They drive me absolutely berzerk. My neighbor
>>was >using one in a futile effort to scare raccoons off his
>>walnut tree. >Of course, it's an open question in some minds
>>whether I count as >vermin.
>> Um....you pick up vibes on your bridgework, or what?
>It sounds like a high-pitched hissing. It drove me crazy trying to
>find the source of the noise. I thought there might be something
>wrong with the wiring in my house (I know, I know, but I couldn't
>think of anything else), until on a very quiet night I wandered
>around my backyard carefully triangulating.
>Fortunately, my neighbor was a sport about getting rid of it (since
>it wasn't working anyway...)
Uncle George said they did make people irritable in business buildings where
they'd been set up. People couldn't figure out why for a long time, not
associating it with any sensation, because they couldn't hear it, but it was
happening subliminally.
However, he said they ARE effective on pests, just that they've no
specificity. He also described early attempts at such devices, before
transistors; the vibration destroyed the tube elements. Possibly ones that
are sold now are people-friendly and also pest-friendly, i.e. ineffective.
Robert
Dana Carpender
Y'know, Mike, this would be a good reason for me not to get one even if
they worked fairly well. I can hear the ultrasonic whine off a TV set,
and if it's pretty loud, it makes me nuts and I can't watch that TV. So
if you can hear the ultrasonic off the pest repeller, I bet I could
too. And would *hate* it.
Dana Carpender
Shotgun Mosquito wrote:
>
> >Anectodes say they're useless, what science that's been done suggests
> >they're useless. Get a cat, if you can't get a cat, get a pack of
> >Victor(TM) mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter, and just close
> >your eyes when you're emptying them. (They're cheap enough to throw away
> >if you're really squeamish about dead or dying rodents.)
>
> Or, if you're not into cats, a rat terrier.
I have both a dog and a cat; still have mice. Lots of mice.
I have ferrets, too, and I've toyed with the idea of letting them loose
in the walls, but I have no idea how I'd get them back out again, and
I'm not at all sure they wouldn't find their way outside and get lost,
which would break my heart.
Dana Carpender
N Jill Marsh wrote:
>
>
> nj"don't your ferrets work for a living?"m
>
Yes. They're cuddly, adorable, and amusing. However, were I to allow
them free run of the house -- needed, I suspect, for ferret rodent
control -- they'd get into things that they could damage, or that could
damage them. Plus they might well get lost. We only let them out to
run if we have time to watch them; other than that they run in one
closed room, or we put them in Happy Ferret Fun Land (tm), the *huge*,
multi-level cage in the back yard.
Nick Spalding
> I have ferrets, too, and I've toyed with the idea of letting them loose
> in the walls, but I have no idea how I'd get them back out again, and
> I'm not at all sure they wouldn't find their way outside and get lost,
> which would break my heart.
When ferrets are used for rabbiting they are put on a long leash, like
50ft or so.
--
Nick Spalding
Mirhanda Sarko
>
>
>Michael Lorton wrote:
>>
>> r...@world.std.com (Rich Clancey) writes:
>>
>> > Dana Carpender (dcar...@kiva.net) wrote:
>> > + Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests
>> > find + truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother
>> > pets. So + I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they
>> > work on mice? + (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
>> >
>> > Based on anecdotes from other people who've tried em, I'd say
>> > they don't work on raccoons or deer.
>>
>> They work on ME! They drive me absolutely berzerk. My neighbor was
>> using one in a futile effort to scare raccoons off his walnut tree.
>> Of course, it's an open question in some minds whether I count as
>> vermin.
>
>Y'know, Mike, this would be a good reason for me not to get one even if
>they worked fairly well. I can hear the ultrasonic whine off a TV set,
>and if it's pretty loud, it makes me nuts and I can't watch that TV. So
>if you can hear the ultrasonic off the pest repeller, I bet I could
>too. And would *hate* it.
>
I know that sound/sensation. It *hurts*...hurts my ears and my back teeth.
Ick!
Mirhanda
--
Decapitate my addy to email me
I am not being personally critical...no, not at all to the woman with the
most beautifully spelled name in the world, but I just do not get it.
boron about me, on afc-a 1-28-01
Michael Lorton
> Michael Lorton wrote:
> >
> > r...@world.std.com (Rich Clancey) writes:
> >
> > > Dana Carpender (dcar...@kiva.net) wrote:
> > > + Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests find
> > > + truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't bother pets. So
> > > + I need to know -- do they work? Specifically, do they work on mice?
> > > + (Don't have roaches, or anything like that.)
> > >
> > > Based on anecdotes from other people who've tried em, I'd say
> > > they don't work on raccoons or deer.
> >
> > They work on ME! They drive me absolutely berzerk. My neighbor was
> > using one in a futile effort to scare raccoons off his walnut tree.
> > Of course, it's an open question in some minds whether I count as
> > vermin.
>
> Y'know, Mike, this would be a good reason for me not to get one even if
> they worked fairly well. I can hear the ultrasonic whine off a TV set,
> and if it's pretty loud, it makes me nuts and I can't watch that TV. So
> if you can hear the ultrasonic off the pest repeller, I bet I could
> too. And would *hate* it.
Yeah, isn't that annoying? I used to work at company where people
would turn of their computers after work but not the monitors. I
often worked late and would prowl the halls, finding the idle monitors
by sound and turning them off. People who couldn't hear it thought I
was imagining things, but couldn't explain how I *found* all the
monitors.
You all think I'm a lunatic now, don't you....
M.
Michael Lorton
> I have both a dog and a cat; still have mice. Lots of mice.
Wow, you must have either the laziest pets or the the boldest vermin
in the world. We had a mouse problem and my wife got a dog -- a
Maltese puppy (heh-heh Mirhanda) scarcely larger than a mouse, but he
did the trick.
> I have ferrets, too, and I've toyed with the idea of letting them loose
> in the walls, but I have no idea how I'd get them back out again, and
> I'm not at all sure they wouldn't find their way outside and get lost,
> which would break my heart.
Well, if the ferrets *can* kill mice, they would have no reason to
come back to their cage; if they *can't*, you would have no reason to
let them out in the first place.
I think the fine products of the Waterloo Alumni Research Fund are in
your future.
M.
rob...@bestweb.net
>Y'know, Mike, this would be a good reason for me not to get one
>even if they worked fairly well. I can hear the ultrasonic whine
>off a TV set, and if it's pretty loud, it makes me nuts and I can't
>watch that TV. So if you can hear the ultrasonic off the pest
>repeller, I bet I could too. And would *hate* it.
>--
Which means that for you they're sonic, not ultrasonic.
Chris
<midde...@mad.scientist.com> said:
<snip>
>..., get a pack of
>Victor(TM) mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter,...
And use *real* peanut butter, something like Adam's (how appropriate ;) ), not a
petroleum by-product like Jiffy or Skip. Mice can smell the difference.
Oh, and loop a foot or two of thread around the trigger, or the mice will *lick*
all the PB off w/o tripping the trap. I speak from experience. :/
--
The world is too much with us; late and soon,/Getting and spending, we lay waste
our powers;/Little we see in Nature that is ours;/...for everything, we are out
of tune;/It moves us not--...I'd rather be/A Pagan...So might I,.../Have sight
of Proteus rising from the sea/Or hear old Triton blow his wreathéd horn.
Chris
<kaya...@my-deja.com> said:
<snip>
>Best way to get rid of mice is to seal up all openings where they can
>get in, and trap the ones who remain. That's it.
Use hardware cloth and/or steel wool, alone or as backing behind whatever you
patch with. They'll chew through wood or plaster alone, in exactly the same spot
as before.
Chris
<dcar...@kiva.net> said:
>
>
>N Jill Marsh wrote:
>>
>>
>> nj"don't your ferrets work for a living?"m
>>
>
>Yes. They're cuddly, adorable, and amusing. However, were I to allow
>them free run of the house -- needed, I suspect, for ferret rodent
>control -- they'd get into things that they could damage, or that could
>damage them. Plus they might well get lost. We only let them out to
>run if we have time to watch them; other than that they run in one
>closed room, or we put them in Happy Ferret Fun Land (tm), the *huge*,
>multi-level cage in the back yard.
I've been told that ferret droppings will scare mice away. You could try dumping
some droppings near the mice holes, see if it works. :)
N Jill Marsh
Chris <Chri...@nwlink.comment> wrote in message
news:3a7dd4fc...@news.nwlink.com...
> I've been told that ferret droppings will scare mice away. You could try
dumping
> some droppings near the mice holes, see if it works. :)
It scares the bejeezus out of them, at least. I've the neurochemical
results to prove it. But it might not make them move out. Mice get pretty
attached to their home territories.
nj"and I've the results to prove that, too"m
--
"Put the thing squarely up to Jeeves and let Nature take its course."
GrapeApe
>Is 15K+ really ultrasonic?
Only if you can't hear it.
Most people with unimpaired hearing have no trouble hearing the frequency
however.
The can't hear above 15k bit is often spread by particular schools of thought
that should know better , such as some audiologists, whose slavish attention to
the spectrum occupied by the fundamental frequencies of the human voice has
them spreading ULs about hearing in that range not existing at all. (really
only because it is not something they choose to measure, and it is something
they do not want to waste their attention on during classtime if training
others)
Maybe its a bit like the old split infinitive rule.
Shotgun Mosquito
>
>Wow, you must have either the laziest pets or the the boldest vermin
>in the world. We had a mouse problem and my wife got a dog -- a
>Maltese puppy (heh-heh Mirhanda) scarcely larger than a mouse, but he
>did the trick.
Yeah, I think Dana's vermin must be extremely bold.
No roaches - eaten by dog.
No mice - eaten by dog.
No shoes - eaten by dog.
Amy Gleason
> It scares the bejeezus out of them, at least. I've the neurochemical
> results to prove it.
Multiple piercings and data on ferret poo? You're a wild and crazy gal!
L & k,
Amy (I like that in a person)
N Jill Marsh
Amy Gleason <glea...@purdue.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.31.010204...@herald.cc.purdue.edu...
> Multiple piercings and data on ferret poo? You're a wild and crazy gal!
To get technical, it's ferret pee and rats. The mice, we use rat pee. Same
effect.
And I'm really very conventional and boring, comparatively speaking.
nj"and I remember ALL of it"m
--
"I'm as fond of a laugh as anyone, but there is such a thing as cruelty to
animals. Imagine the feelings of horses at Ascot when they see that hat."
Briar Rose
I've found that the best mice controllers are cats,
unless you're allergic. In which case, they're still
the best mouse control, but you probably can't use
them.
Many mice can get out of both the humane and inhumane
traps; often what happens is that you catch the stupid
ones, but the smart ones just get free meals out of it
until you give in.
We had to call the city once to get rid of rats in
the ivy of the palm trees in the front yard (they
were technically on city property). The exterminator
came out, and did all of his exterminaty things, but
then he said, "you have cats, right lady?" "yes."
"Then they'll probably take care of the rat problem
fairly quickly. They're better than any of this
stuff I use."
My current set of three kitties endeared me to my
new neighbors when the first thing they did was
clear all the rats out of the alley.
:) Connie-Lynne
--
"Thank God for Frito-Lay. It did not market Chee-tos as 'dangerously
cheesy' until after, and ONLY after, it had developed a Chee-to whose
cheesiness exceeded acceptable safety standards."
-- The Onion
Briar Rose
>I have both a dog and a cat; still have mice. Lots of mice.
Dang. Well, I suppose you could stop feeding the dog
and cat, and _force_ them to hunt their dinners.
That wouldn't be nice, though.
:) Connie-Lynne
It's a joke! I wasn't serious! I'd never do that
to a pet!
Jay R. Ashworth
Perry Farmer <perry....@thefarm.tzo.com> wrote:
> Is 15K+ really ultrasonic?
15,734.264.
I'd call it transonic. Whether it's ultrasonic depends on how old you
are. I can still here sloppy flybacks, but not as well as when I was
younger.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
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GrapeApe
>
>-> Only if you can't hear it.
>
>Why? If I could not hear below 50 hz. would that put it in the subsonic
>range?
Because if it were 50hz, it wouldn't be 15khz. Thats why.
A. Gore
<midde...@mad.scientist.com> wrote:
>
>Anectodes say they're useless, what science that's been done suggests
>they're useless. Get a cat, if you can't get a cat, get a pack of
>Victor(TM) mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter, and just close
>your eyes when you're emptying them. (They're cheap enough to throw away
>if you're really squeamish about dead or dying rodents.)
What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
Would rats prefer something different? I've always thot the little
wedge of cheddar was a holdover from the cartoons. Is peanut butter
better? I can see that. I also distinctly remember reading that some
scholarly study a few years back showed that, of all commonly
available items, *lemon gumdrops* attracted mice the best.
Or Tweety-pies.
A. Gore
<mlo...@civetsystems.com> wrote:
>
>They work on ME! They drive me absolutely berzerk. My neighbor was
>using one in a futile effort to scare raccoons off his walnut tree.
>Of course, it's an open question in some minds whether I count as
>vermin.
I'm working on a Dutch Courage version. Orders, anyone?
Tales to Dutch Courage
Better make out of kryptonite, punk.
Dutch "blue kryptonite!" Courage
"While Iron Man, all jets ablaze, he fights and fights with repulsor rays"
Nick Spalding
> Hey, remember back on Sat, 03 Feb 2001 16:55:12 -0500, when Don Middendorf
> <midde...@mad.scientist.com> said:
>
> <snip>
> >..., get a pack of
> >Victor(TM) mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter,...
>
> And use *real* peanut butter, something like Adam's (how appropriate ;) ), not a
> petroleum by-product like Jiffy or Skip. Mice can smell the difference.
>
> Oh, and loop a foot or two of thread around the trigger, or the mice will *lick*
> all the PB off w/o tripping the trap. I speak from experience. :/
The trick with mouse traps is to leave them out baited but unset for a
couple of days so that the mice get used to eating off them; then you
set them.
--
Nick Spalding
Nick Spalding
> What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
> Would rats prefer something different? I've always thot the little
> wedge of cheddar was a holdover from the cartoons. Is peanut butter
> better? I can see that. I also distinctly remember reading that some
> scholarly study a few years back showed that, of all commonly
> available items, *lemon gumdrops* attracted mice the best.
> Or Tweety-pies.
I have had great success with cat food. I tried it more or less as a
joke and found that it worked.
--
Nick Spalding
Don Middendorf
I've heard both of those bits of advice before, and they clearly seem
sound, however I've never had any problem catching mice with just JIF
(crunchy, I know I like it better dunno about the mice) but then again
what I'm catching are usually field mice (voles?) the little brown ones
that come inside in the fall, not the grey and white critters who do
usually seem to be more reclusive and paranoid. Cats are no doubt the
superior method for mouse control however.
Don Middendorf
Boron Elgar
wrote:
Peanut butter is fine. It works not only becuase the vermin like the
stuff, but because it has to be licked off, increasing the liklihood
of triggering, rather than arising the next day 7 finding a snathc &
grab.
Mini marshmallows work, too. I dunno about the lemon gundrops, but the
marshmallows & gumdrops are soft & can be impaled on the bait area,
again, improving odds of triggering.
I am reporting once again on the recent invasion of my kitchen - SIX
flying squirrels in two days. We have now moved beyond the
hav-a-harts, folks. If the snows & ice ever go away & we can get a
ladder on the hillside upon which one side of my house is perched, we
will try once again to patch any openings up the side of the chimney.
I have 180 acres of woods next door that is being developed. Wildlife
is all over the neighborhood. The hardware store cannot keep up with
trap demand.
Boron
boron
mje
perry....@thefarm.tzo.com (Perry Farmer) wrote:
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> -> Newsgroups: alt.fan.cecil-adams
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> -> >
> -> >Is 15K+ really ultrasonic?
>
> -> Only if you can't hear it.
>
> Why? If I could not hear below 50 hz. would that put it in the
subsonic
> range?
>
> -> frequency however.
>
> -> The can't hear above 15k bit is often spread by particular schools
of
> -> thought that should know better...
When I was 17 I was a valuable helper in an electronics shop, as I could
hear something none of the middle aged guys in the hsop could here- a
television horizontal oscillator humming at 15750 Hz. Don't know if TVs
have all improved in the solid state era, or if my hearing has declined,
but I can't hear them any more ;-)
There is experimental evidence that infants can hear as high as 40KHz,
and even some adults can hear beyond 25KHz; the biggest problem is
masking noise all around us.
Michake Edelman
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Dana Carpender
Not me; it took me a long time to realize that other people *couldn't*
hear the ultrasonics off of a cathode ray tube. Furthermore, I've been
known to hear ultrasonics from unidenitified sources; pretty odd. Oh,
and there was a department store in Northbrook Court Mall -- I'm
thinking it was Field's, but I may be remembering wrong -- where the
whine from the security system near the entrance into the mall was loud
enough to make my damn teeth hurt. I couldn't shop there.
--
Dana W. Carpender
Author, How I Gave Up My Low Fat Diet -- And Lost Forty Pounds!
http://www.holdthetoast.com
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Dana Carpender
Michael Lorton wrote:
>
> Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> writes:
>
> > I have both a dog and a cat; still have mice. Lots of mice.
>
> Wow, you must have either the laziest pets or the the boldest vermin
> in the world.
Definitely have bold vermin; I've had a mouse run across the top edge of
the backsplash while I was standing at the sink.
Cat is old, dog has a malformed leg and isn't as fast as some. Would
get another cat, but cat isn't so old that he wouldn't try to kill it;
he already swipes at the dog fairly often.
ctc...@my-deja.com
azz...@bellsouthCAPITATE.net (Mirhanda Sarko) wrote:
>
> I know that sound/sensation. It *hurts*...hurts my ears and my back
teeth.
> Ick!
Is your TV tuned to something having Maria Carey or Whitney
Houston on?
Xho
James Andrews
: On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 08:04:44 GMT, dice@-primenet++.com (A. Gore)
: wrote:
: > What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
: Peanut butter is fine. It works not only becuase the vermin like the
: stuff, but because it has to be licked off, increasing the liklihood
: of triggering, rather than arising the next day 7 finding a snathc &
: grab.
: Mini marshmallows work, too. I dunno about the lemon gundrops, but the
: marshmallows & gumdrops are soft & can be impaled on the bait area,
: again, improving odds of triggering.
What I used that worked well was the stringy ends of a cooked sweet
potato or yam. Work it in there, and they have to kind of chew and pull
on the stuff, which almost guarantees that the trap will go off.
Jas.
--
James Andrews
Philadelphia, PA
Lalbert1
Gore) writes:
>What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
>Would rats prefer something different? I've always thot the little
>wedge of cheddar was a holdover from the cartoons. Is peanut butter
>better? I can see that. I also distinctly remember reading that some
>scholarly study a few years back showed that, of all commonly
>available items, *lemon gumdrops* attracted mice the best.
>Or Tweety-pies.
The current print ad for Columbian coffee shows a mouse trap baited with a
teeny-tiny cup of coffee.
Les
Shotgun Mosquito
<m3bssic...@civetsystems.com>:
>Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net> writes:
>
>> Michael Lorton wrote:
>> >
>> > r...@world.std.com (Rich Clancey) writes:
>> >
>> > > Dana Carpender (dcar...@kiva.net) wrote:
>> > > + Supposedly these things set up an ultrasonic that various pests
>> > > find + truly nasty, so they leave. Also claims that it won't
>> > > bother pets. So + I need to know -- do they work? Specifically,
>> > > do they work on mice? + (Don't have roaches, or anything like
>> > > that.)
>> > >
>> > > Based on anecdotes from other people who've tried em, I'd
>> > > say
>> > > they don't work on raccoons or deer.
>> >
>> > They work on ME! They drive me absolutely berzerk. My neighbor was
>> > using one in a futile effort to scare raccoons off his walnut tree.
>> > Of course, it's an open question in some minds whether I count as
>> > vermin.
>Yeah, isn't that annoying? I used to work at company where people
>would turn of their computers after work but not the monitors. I
>often worked late and would prowl the halls, finding the idle monitors
>by sound and turning them off. People who couldn't hear it thought I
>was imagining things, but couldn't explain how I *found* all the
>monitors.
>
>You all think I'm a lunatic now, don't you....
Dang. I thought I was the only one with this super power.
Dana Carpender
N Jill Marsh wrote:
>
> Chris <Chri...@nwlink.comment> wrote in message
> news:3a7dd4fc...@news.nwlink.com...
>
> > I've been told that ferret droppings will scare mice away. You could try
> dumping
> > some droppings near the mice holes, see if it works. :)
>
> It scares the bejeezus out of them, at least. I've the neurochemical
> results to prove it. But it might not make them move out. Mice get pretty
> attached to their home territories.
Yeah, and do I really want ferret shit in my kitchen?
Dana Carpender
Nah, Dutch and I are buds. But I'll take a Gilmer version, and one that
works on the cascades crowd.
GrapeApe
>superior method for mouse control however.
Not always. Often cats seem more interested in beating it senseless then
letting it go for more chasing fun until they are bored.
Dana Carpender
Tweety-pies? Little statues of the bird? Actual birds? Or is there a
candy called "Tweety-pies"?
Boron Elgar
Must be mice from Seattle.
Boron
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>
>
>"A. Gore" wrote:
>>
>> On 03 Feb 2001 15:59:00 -0800, Michael Lorton
>> <mlo...@civetsystems.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >They work on ME! They drive me absolutely berzerk. My neighbor was
>> >using one in a futile effort to scare raccoons off his walnut tree.
>> >Of course, it's an open question in some minds whether I count as
>> >vermin.
>>
>> I'm working on a Dutch Courage version. Orders, anyone?
>
>Nah, Dutch and I are buds. But I'll take a Gilmer version, and one that
>works on the cascades crowd.
Shh. You spoke the name of "He Who Should Not Be Mentioned." Spit
three times & run around in a circle under the full moon.
Boron
Dana Carpender
Just what I need -- mice that run around making noise inside the walls
all night...
GrapeApe
>-> >
>-> >
>-> >Why? If I could not hear below 50 hz. would that put it in the subsonic
>-> >range?
>
>-> Because if it were 50hz, it wouldn't be 15khz. Thats why.
>
>And 15k is in the range of human hearing as well. Just because it is
>above what some may hear doesn't change that.
Which is what the "Only if you can't hear it" phrase references, of course.
I have no problem with 15k. I do start to notice a precipitous drop somewhere
nearing 17k, I have to boost volume to hear above that. It is the audiology
profession that I have noticed to inexplicably want to draw the reins in
tighter to the point of falsehood. This is more along the lines of telling the
folks on the production line not to pay attention, merely ignore that which
isn't part of their job description, it ain't their job, which is to sell
hearing aids to hear the vocal range of frequencies.
But there the slightly different take, the slightly more technical question as
to where "ultrasonic' might fall on a scientific spectrum or chart. Merriam
Webster gives 20k, just like the speaker manufacturers. The General rule of
thumb is we can hear 20hz to 20khz, sub and ultra would apply outside that
range.
The FCC seems to want to compare sonics to the electro magnetic spectrum, just
for jollies, in the legend at the bottom of this chart. They are probably
snacking it down around 20k as well.
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf
Mirhanda Sarko
When peanut butter failed us, we used the red-plastic ring from bologna,
twining it around the trigger of the trap. Worked like a charm and was
good for multiple hits. (I mean, you're trying to kill them so you don't
care if they get an impacted colon, right?)
Mirhanda
--
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I am not being personally critical...no, not at all to the woman with the
most beautifully spelled name in the world, but I just do not get it.
boron about me, on afc-a 1-28-01
Dana Carpender
You mean Gilmer is really Voldemort? I hadn't given him that much
credit.
Rich Clancey
+ I am reporting once again on the recent invasion of my kitchen - SIX
+ flying squirrels in two days. We have now moved beyond the
+ hav-a-harts, folks. If the snows & ice ever go away & we can get a
+ ladder on the hillside upon which one side of my house is perched, we
+ will try once again to patch any openings up the side of the chimney.
Do flying squirrels have any natural enemies you might be able
to encourage? Mongoose or something?
(Russian Spies don't count)
--
rich clancey r...@world.std.com rcla...@massart.edu
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Dana Carpender
Rich Clancey wrote:
>
> Boron Elgar (Kalk...@bwu.edu) wrote:
>
> + I am reporting once again on the recent invasion of my kitchen - SIX
> + flying squirrels in two days. We have now moved beyond the
> + hav-a-harts, folks. If the snows & ice ever go away & we can get a
> + ladder on the hillside upon which one side of my house is perched, we
> + will try once again to patch any openings up the side of the chimney.
>
> Do flying squirrels have any natural enemies you might be able
> to encourage? Mongoose or something?
Ferrets are related to mongeese!
--
Dana W."Just love them weasels!" Carpender
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>
>
>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:38:38 -0500, Dana Carpender <dcar...@kiva.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"A. Gore" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 03 Feb 2001 15:59:00 -0800, Michael Lorton
>> >> <mlo...@civetsystems.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >They work on ME! They drive me absolutely berzerk. My neighbor was
>> >> >using one in a futile effort to scare raccoons off his walnut tree.
>> >> >Of course, it's an open question in some minds whether I count as
>> >> >vermin.
>> >>
>> >> I'm working on a Dutch Courage version. Orders, anyone?
>> >
>> >Nah, Dutch and I are buds. But I'll take a Gilmer version, and one that
>> >works on the cascades crowd.
>>
>> Shh. You spoke the name of "He Who Should Not Be Mentioned." Spit
>> three times & run around in a circle under the full moon.
>
>You mean Gilmer is really Voldemort? I hadn't given him that much
>credit.
Nah...nothing as awful as ( ) comes out of Harry Potter books.
Boron
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>Boron Elgar (Kalk...@bwu.edu) wrote:
>
>+ I am reporting once again on the recent invasion of my kitchen - SIX
>+ flying squirrels in two days. We have now moved beyond the
>+ hav-a-harts, folks. If the snows & ice ever go away & we can get a
>+ ladder on the hillside upon which one side of my house is perched, we
>+ will try once again to patch any openings up the side of the chimney.
>
> Do flying squirrels have any natural enemies you might be able
>to encourage? Mongoose or something?
>
Rikki-tikki tavi. Hmmmmmm
So far, the only known enemy is a Victor rat trap, a rather large
mother which includes instructions along the lines of: "rats carry
disease. do not handle rats with bare hands."
And the squirrels aren't afraid of Bichons, either, nor are they the
slightest bit shy of humans. Some people keep them as pets. Of course,
there are some people that will keep virtually anything. I mean, I
have children.
There is a word of warning...when coaxing them out of a hav-a-hart
trap, be sure to do so directly next to a tree to give them a place to
run up. Otherwise, tape your socks to your pants.
I have sounded out the professional pest eliminator folk...they can
trap them & release them on my property (thanks, boys) or kill them on
the property (thanks, boys). Frankly, we're gotten caught enough in
the release traps that we're thinking of tagging them or re-making
"The Incredible Journey."
Boron
Boron Elgar
(Mirhanda Sarko) wrote:
>spal...@iol.ie (Nick Spalding) wrote in alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>>A. Gore wrote, in <3a815c6c...@news.primenet.com>:
>>
>>> What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
>>> Would rats prefer something different? I've always thot the little
>>> wedge of cheddar was a holdover from the cartoons. Is peanut butter
>>> better? I can see that. I also distinctly remember reading that some
>>> scholarly study a few years back showed that, of all commonly
>>> available items, *lemon gumdrops* attracted mice the best.
>>> Or Tweety-pies.
>>
>>I have had great success with cat food. I tried it more or less as a
>>joke and found that it worked.
>
>When peanut butter failed us, we used the red-plastic ring from bologna,
>twining it around the trigger of the trap. Worked like a charm and was
>good for multiple hits. (I mean, you're trying to kill them so you don't
>care if they get an impacted colon, right?)
What red plastic ring? Your lunchmeat comes with jewelry?
Boron
Briar Rose
>I have sounded out the professional pest eliminator folk...they can
>trap them & release them on my property (thanks, boys) or kill them on
>the property (thanks, boys). Frankly, we're gotten caught enough in
>the release traps that we're thinking of tagging them or re-making
>"The Incredible Journey."
I have a copy of "River Road Recipes" published by the
Baton Rouge Junior League which has several pages on cooking
squirrel. I'm sure the flying variety could be used in
these recipes, as well.
I could copy them for you, or you might want to just
contact them yourself and buy the whole cookbook; it's
very good, especially the eggnog in the "How Men Cook"
section.
:) Connie-Lynne
--
"Thank God for Frito-Lay. It did not market Chee-tos as 'dangerously
cheesy' until after, and ONLY after, it had developed a Chee-to whose
cheesiness exceeded acceptable safety standards."
-- The Onion
Mirhanda Sarko
Well, Oscar Mayer doesn't have it, but just about every other brand of
bologna around here had a red, plastic "rind" on it, which you pull off in
preparation for making your sandwich.
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>Boron Elgar <Kalk...@bwu.edu> wrote:
>>I have sounded out the professional pest eliminator folk...they can
>>trap them & release them on my property (thanks, boys) or kill them on
>>the property (thanks, boys). Frankly, we're gotten caught enough in
>>the release traps that we're thinking of tagging them or re-making
>>"The Incredible Journey."
>
>I have a copy of "River Road Recipes" published by the
>Baton Rouge Junior League which has several pages on cooking
>squirrel. I'm sure the flying variety could be used in
>these recipes, as well.
>
>I could copy them for you, or you might want to just
>contact them yourself and buy the whole cookbook; it's
>very good, especially the eggnog in the "How Men Cook"
>section.
>
Squirrel eggnog?
These critters, having a cute factor of about 98 on a 100 pt scale
might be hard to stomach psychologically. Still...I could feed a small
army on what's taken up residence here...(real small army.)
Thanks for the tip, Connie-Lynne
Boron
Dana Carpender
Briar Rose wrote:
>
> Boron Elgar <Kalk...@bwu.edu> wrote:
> >I have sounded out the professional pest eliminator folk...they can
> >trap them & release them on my property (thanks, boys) or kill them on
> >the property (thanks, boys). Frankly, we're gotten caught enough in
> >the release traps that we're thinking of tagging them or re-making
> >"The Incredible Journey."
>
> I have a copy of "River Road Recipes" published by the
> Baton Rouge Junior League which has several pages on cooking
> squirrel. I'm sure the flying variety could be used in
> these recipes, as well.
>
> I could copy them for you, or you might want to just
> contact them yourself and buy the whole cookbook; it's
> very good, especially the eggnog in the "How Men Cook"
> section.
It's a bit late in the winter for this, but here's my dad's recipe for
eggnog:
1/2 gallon B&R eggnog ice cream, thawed
1/2 gallon B&R French vanilla, ditto
1 quart rum
1 pint cream sherry
Stir together, sprinkle with nutmeg, and serve. This is *very* strong;
you might try it with half the liquor if you don't want a bunch of
people sleeping on the couches. OTOH, it doesn't go bad after even a
month in the fridge.
--
Dana W. Carpender
GrapeApe
>>
>
>Well, Oscar Mayer doesn't have it, but just about every other brand of
>bologna around here had a red, plastic "rind" on it, which you pull off
>in
>preparation for making your sandwich.
Yes classic Boloney is actually a giant weinie which has been put through a
slicer, that usually ships in a protective casing of some sort.
As far as I know Oscar Meyer might be making bologna the same way Lisa Douglas
made automotive V8 gaskets out of pancake batter.
Boron Elgar
(Mirhanda Sarko) wrote:
>Kalk...@bwu.edu (Boron Elgar) wrote in alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>>
>>>
>>>When peanut butter failed us, we used the red-plastic ring from
>>>bologna, twining it around the trigger of the trap. Worked like a
>>>charm and was good for multiple hits. (I mean, you're trying to kill
>>>them so you don't care if they get an impacted colon, right?)
>>
>>What red plastic ring? Your lunchmeat comes with jewelry?
>>
>
>Well, Oscar Mayer doesn't have it, but just about every other brand of
>bologna around here had a red, plastic "rind" on it, which you pull off in
>preparation for making your sandwich.
Ah...I havne';t bought balogna in years & years. They kids prefer
Hebrew National salami which looks like a giant dog weenie. YOu peel
it before you slice it, so no ring.
Boron
Dana Carpender
I'd just like to say -- and I'm sure I speak for at least a few of us --
huh?
Mirhanda Sarko
Hey though, if you cut those things into strips, it might make good mouse
bait :)
GrapeApe
>Douglas
>> made automotive V8 gaskets out of pancake batter.
>
>I'd just like to say -- and I'm sure I speak for at least a few of us --
>huh?
Lisa Douglas had allergic smelling hay. She moved to Hootersville with her
deranged lawyer husband Oliver Wendal Douglas, to live off the land. Lisa never
had cooked much before, but as a homekeeper for a farm, she learned.
One day if it wasn't the tractor going bad, there may have been car trouble, a
blown gasket, near a diner. They had no cash on hand to pay to call for help at
the diner, So she made her famous panscakes, this time using a coffee can as a
cookie cutter to cut the panscakes out. It just so happened the leftover batter
made a perfect gasket for the engine, and they were able to go along their way.
The End.
Oscar Meyer could be filling up a bag with a peelable rind to create a bologna
to be sliced later, but since they prefer packaging that doesn't have the
peel'em and eat'em aesthetic, it is theoretically possible for them to roll out
the pate like so much cookie dough, or panscake batter, and cut the bologna out
like so many cookies. We could have bread shaped bologna, the way we
mystically have bread shaped ham, or we could have them shaped like little
Santa Clauses and Christmas trees if we prefered.
Amy Gleason
> I am reporting once again on the recent invasion of my kitchen - SIX
> flying squirrels in two days. We have now moved beyond the
> hav-a-harts, folks. If the snows & ice ever go away & we can get a
> ladder on the hillside upon which one side of my house is perched, we
> will try once again to patch any openings up the side of the chimney.
Wanna borrow my dog for a week or two? She'd beat their little squirrelly
butts, and still be hungry enough for kibble.
L & k,
Amy
Amy Gleason
> Rich Clancey wrote:
> > Boron Elgar (Kalk...@bwu.edu) wrote:
> >
> > + I am reporting once again on the recent invasion of my kitchen - SIX
> > + flying squirrels in two days. We have now moved beyond the
> > + hav-a-harts, folks. If the snows & ice ever go away & we can get a
> > + ladder on the hillside upon which one side of my house is perched, we
> > + will try once again to patch any openings up the side of the chimney.
> >
> > Do flying squirrels have any natural enemies you might be able
> > to encourage? Mongoose or something?
>
> Ferrets are related to mongeese!
Dana, she's trying to catch squirrels, not diaphragms!
L & k,
Amy
Amy Gleason
> These critters, having a cute factor of about 98 on a 100 pt scale
> might be hard to stomach psychologically. Still...I could feed a small
> army on what's taken up residence here...(real small army.)
>
> Thanks for the tip, Connie-Lynne
Put 'em in macaroni and cheese and tell the kids it's ground beef. What
do they know?
L & k,
Amy - mmmmmm! Squirrel Helper!
Amy Gleason
> Cat is old, dog has a malformed leg and isn't as fast as some. Would
> get another cat, but cat isn't so old that he wouldn't try to kill it;
> he already swipes at the dog fairly often.
I'd be happy to bring Max down when I come for the Oliver sale, and we can
turn her loose on your vermin while we go shopping. 75 lbs of hyperactive
puppy vs. 3 ounces of mouse? No contest. She's got a long nose, too, so
she can get into clever places.
Hell, I could bring the cat and we could have a REAL party!
L & k,
Amy - I feel like a pet pimp!
Amy Gleason
> Yeah, and do I really want ferret shit in my kitchen?
I dunno, when given a choice between the shit you know and the shit you
don't know, it's best to go with the shit you know.
I mean, you're pretty confident that your weasels are healthy, right? Can
you say the same for the mice?
L & k,
Amy - Oh Mickey you're so fine!
Sean Houtman
>> Do flying squirrels have any natural enemies you might be able
>> to encourage? Mongoose or something?
>
>Ferrets are related to mongeese!
>
Er, just about as closely as they are related to cats, they are in different
families, Mustelidae for ferrets, Viverridae for mongeese.
Sean
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James Andrews
: It's a bit late in the winter for this, but here's my dad's recipe for
: eggnog:
: 1/2 gallon B&R eggnog ice cream, thawed
: 1/2 gallon B&R French vanilla, ditto
: 1 quart rum
: 1 pint cream sherry
: Stir together, sprinkle with nutmeg, and serve.
Wow. I don't usually say this about most any foodstuff that people post,
but that sounds disgusting.
Jas.
--
James Andrews
Philadelphia, PA
GrapeApe
>
>but that sounds disgusting.
Seems like it would taste like egg nog. Which like many ice creams, is merely a
custard.
Alan Hamilton
<mlo...@civetsystems.com> wrote:
>Yeah, isn't that annoying? I used to work at company where people
>would turn of their computers after work but not the monitors. I
>often worked late and would prowl the halls, finding the idle monitors
>by sound and turning them off. People who couldn't hear it thought I
>was imagining things, but couldn't explain how I *found* all the
>monitors.
I used to have that problem, but with the advent of higher refresh
rate monitors (and probably me getting older too) it's not any more.
Occasionally I do encounter a screen with a loose flyback transformer
winding that really shrieks.
--
/
/ * / Alan Hamilton
* * al...@primenet.com
rob...@bestweb.net
>> Cat is old, dog has a malformed leg and isn't as fast as some.
>>Would get another cat, but cat isn't so old that he wouldn't try
>>to kill it; he already swipes at the dog fairly often.
>I'd be happy to bring Max down when I come for the Oliver sale, and
>we can turn her loose on your vermin while we go shopping. 75 lbs
>of hyperactive puppy vs. 3 ounces of mouse? No contest. She's got
>a long nose, too, so she can get into clever places.
>Hell, I could bring the cat and we could have a REAL party!
Home team: 1 dog, 1 cat, undetermined number of mice.
Visitors: 1 dog, 1 cat.
Yeah, that sets things up for Ben Fur, as my friend John called it.
Throw in the ferret if things get dull. (Or is Max the ferret? I forget.)
How many Olivers you plan on buying?
Rober
rob...@bestweb.net
Alan Hamilton
wrote:
>Tweety-pies? Little statues of the bird? Actual birds? Or is there a
>candy called "Tweety-pies"?
Sufferin' succotash, Dana, you've got to watch more TV*. You missed
the "Green Acres" ref, and now the "Loony Tunes" ref as well.
*I realize that the Sylvester and Tweety cartoons started as
theatrical shorts, but anyone under 50 has seen them only on TV.
Rich Clancey
+ Squirrel eggnog?
+ These critters, having a cute factor of about 98 on a 100 pt scale
+ might be hard to stomach psychologically. Still...I could feed a small
+ army on what's taken up residence here...(real small army.)
+ Thanks for the tip, Connie-Lynne
If you squint, you can see them as glorified rats, with better
tails. Most of the cuteness is the damned hands, which look almost human.
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+ What red plastic ring? Your lunchmeat comes with jewelry?
Sure, haven't you had your prociutto pierced?
Chris
<midde...@mad.scientist.com> said:
>Nick Spalding wrote:
>>
>> Chris wrote, in <3a7dd365...@news.nwlink.com>:
>>
>> > Hey, remember back on Sat, 03 Feb 2001 16:55:12 -0500, when Don Middendorf
>> > <midde...@mad.scientist.com> said:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> > >..., get a pack of
>> > >Victor(TM) mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter,...
>> >
>> > And use *real* peanut butter, something like Adam's (how appropriate ;) ), not a
>> > petroleum by-product like Jiffy or Skip. Mice can smell the difference.
>> >
>> > Oh, and loop a foot or two of thread around the trigger, or the mice will *lick*
>> > all the PB off w/o tripping the trap. I speak from experience. :/
>>
>> The trick with mouse traps is to leave them out baited but unset for a
>> couple of days so that the mice get used to eating off them; then you
>> set them.
Ah, yes. Forgot that part.
>I've heard both of those bits of advice before, and they clearly seem
>sound, however I've never had any problem catching mice with just JIF
>(crunchy, I know I like it better dunno about the mice) but then again
>what I'm catching are usually field mice (voles?) the little brown ones
>that come inside in the fall, not the grey and white critters who do
>usually seem to be more reclusive and paranoid. Cats are no doubt the
>superior method for mouse control however.
The only kind we have here is the deer mouse (aka white-footed mouse)--genus
_Peromuscus_. They're clever and cautious.
--
The world is too much with us; late and soon,/Getting and spending, we lay waste
our powers;/Little we see in Nature that is ours;/...for everything, we are out
of tune;/It moves us not--...I'd rather be/A Pagan...So might I,.../Have sight
of Proteus rising from the sea/Or hear old Triton blow his wreathéd horn.
Chris
<dcar...@kiva.net> said:
>
>
>N Jill Marsh wrote:
>>
>> Chris <Chri...@nwlink.comment> wrote in message
>> news:3a7dd4fc...@news.nwlink.com...
>>
>> > I've been told that ferret droppings will scare mice away. You could try
>> dumping
>> > some droppings near the mice holes, see if it works. :)
>>
>> It scares the bejeezus out of them, at least. I've the neurochemical
>> results to prove it. But it might not make them move out. Mice get pretty
>> attached to their home territories.
>
>Yeah, and do I really want ferret shit in my kitchen?
Well, *you're* deciding where it goes, and (hopefully) you'll remember where
you put it. Mice, OTOH, go everywhere the go, IYKWIM, and they get *everywhere*
in your kitchen, if they get in it.
Chris
(A. Gore) said:
>On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 16:55:12 -0500, Don Middendorf
><midde...@mad.scientist.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Anectodes say they're useless, what science that's been done suggests
>>they're useless. Get a cat, if you can't get a cat, get a pack of
>>Victor(TM) mouse traps, bait them with peanut butter, and just close
>>your eyes when you're emptying them. (They're cheap enough to throw away
>>if you're really squeamish about dead or dying rodents.)
>
> What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
Anything high in fat.
Back when we had a *bad* problem with them in the kitchen, they'd even eat the
hand-soap: we had a no-perfume, good & natural kind.
>Would rats prefer something different?
Thank goddess, I have no idea.
>I've always thot the little
>wedge of cheddar was a holdover from the cartoons. Is peanut butter
>better? I can see that. I also distinctly remember reading that some
>scholarly study a few years back showed that, of all commonly
>available items, *lemon gumdrops* attracted mice the best.
::Boggle::
>Or Tweety-pies.
I t'ought I saw a mousie!
Chris
<Kalk...@bwu.edu> said:
<snip>
>>"A. Gore" wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm working on a Dutch Courage version. Orders, anyone?
My order: *work faster*!
>Shh. You spoke the name of "He Who Should Not Be Mentioned." Spit
>three times & run around in a circle under the full moon.
Or, run in a circle around the moon.
Yes, it's silly. Your point? ;)
Chris
<dcar...@kiva.net> said:
>
>
>Lalbert1 wrote:
>>
>> In article <3a815c6c...@news.primenet.com>, dice@-primenet++.com (A.
>> Gore) writes:
>>
>> >What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
>> >Would rats prefer something different? I've always thot the little
>> >wedge of cheddar was a holdover from the cartoons. Is peanut butter
>> >better? I can see that. I also distinctly remember reading that some
>> >scholarly study a few years back showed that, of all commonly
>> >available items, *lemon gumdrops* attracted mice the best.
>> >Or Tweety-pies.
>>
>> The current print ad for Columbian coffee shows a mouse trap baited with a
>> teeny-tiny cup of coffee.
>
>Just what I need -- mice that run around making noise inside the walls
>all night...
Hey, that's their job. ;)
I'm sure they've never done anything else.
N Jill Marsh
Tales to Dutch Courage <mutigho...@aol.comFOOM> wrote in message
news:20010206230104...@ng-fx1.aol.com...
> "N Jill Marsh" njm...@bigfoot.com.TOENAILS writes:
>
> >nj"haven't inhaled /enough/ moose pee to become allergic"m
>
> You might reconsider this particular affectation, what with you being
Canadian
> and all.
Noted. I have done with inhalation of moose pee, and am now looking for a
different line of work. Though who knows, the denizens of that underworld
might very well reach up and drag me back under.
nj"and as long as the pay was good, bring on the mus pee"m
--
"'Yes, it's beautiful,' she said, panting a little like a girl who has
discovered a dismembered corpse in the attic."
Dana Carpender
Chris wrote:
>
> Hey, remember back on Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:02:00 -0500, when Dana Carpender
> <dcar...@kiva.net> said:
>
> >
> >
> >Lalbert1 wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <3a815c6c...@news.primenet.com>, dice@-primenet++.com (A.
> >> Gore) writes:
> >>
> >> >What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
> >> >Would rats prefer something different? I've always thot the little
> >> >wedge of cheddar was a holdover from the cartoons. Is peanut butter
> >> >better? I can see that. I also distinctly remember reading that some
> >> >scholarly study a few years back showed that, of all commonly
> >> >available items, *lemon gumdrops* attracted mice the best.
> >> >Or Tweety-pies.
> >>
> >> The current print ad for Columbian coffee shows a mouse trap baited with a
> >> teeny-tiny cup of coffee.
> >
> >Just what I need -- mice that run around making noise inside the walls
> >all night...
>
> Hey, that's their job. ;)
>
> I'm sure they've never done anything else.
Sure they have. If they'd stick to running around inside the walls, I
wouldn't mind. It's running around my kitchen that annoys me.
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>Hey, remember back on Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:47:47 -0500, when Boron Elgar
><Kalk...@bwu.edu> said:
>
><snip>
>>>"A. Gore" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm working on a Dutch Courage version. Orders, anyone?
>
>My order: *work faster*!
>
>
>>Shh. You spoke the name of "He Who Should Not Be Mentioned." Spit
>>three times & run around in a circle under the full moon.
>
>Or, run in a circle around the moon.
>
>Yes, it's silly. Your point? ;)
I was referring to Gilmer, not Dutch.
Boron
sillywabbit
"Chris" <Chri...@nwlink.comment> wrote in message
> Hey, remember back on Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:02:00 -0500, when Dana Carpender
> <dcar...@kiva.net> said:
>
> >
> >
> >Lalbert1 wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <3a815c6c...@news.primenet.com>, dice@-primenet++.com
(A.
> >> Gore) writes:
> >>
> >> >What makes the best mouse bait, for a 'classic' mouse trap?
> >> >Would rats prefer something different? I've always thot the little
> >> >wedge of cheddar was a holdover from the cartoons. Is peanut butter
> >> >better? I can see that. I also distinctly remember reading that some
> >> >scholarly study a few years back showed that, of all commonly
> >> >available items, *lemon gumdrops* attracted mice the best.
> >> >Or Tweety-pies.
I have a pet Rat and I cant tell you that guy really loves his cheese lol
SillyWabbit
< theres one in everybox >
Lars Eighner
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