A Critical Analysis of the Captain N Fandom (Part 2)
Mark Moore
Written: Thursday, April 4, 2002, 1:30 PM - 5:20 PM; Saturday, May 18,
2002, 10:34 AM - 6:43 PM
To understand how big of a disaster Season 7 was, you must first learn
of its origins.
On Friday afternoon on April 3, 1998, at about 2:35 PM, Matt Slater
and I were standing around outside school, waiting for his ride to
show up. We talked about past and future Captain N fanfics, and I came
up with a cool idea: What if Season 7 was all one huge story arc? Matt
liked it, so we began tossing around ideas. We needed something with a
lot of story potential, a lot of background, that could be stretched
through an entire season, and that could still be kept interesting.
Matt came up with a cool idea. It involved a new enemy, named Brain
Child, whose goal was the destruction of every world in Videoland.
(Matt's a big fan of "The Transformers: The Movie".)
So, we got to work. We started coming up with some ideas, as well as
getting some from other people. On Monday, April 27, 1998, Matt
brought Ellen Brand on as our third writer. I tried to get T.J.
Rappell of The Metroid Database on board as well, but I got no
response from him.
On Monday, July 20, 1998, Matt withdrew himself from writing for
Season 7, due to not having enough time. He also stopped writing
"Captain N: The Machine Wars" (the title at the time), the Season 6
finale, and gave it to me. I wrote it, since it set the stage for
Season 7 and was pretty much vital.
On Wednesday, July 22, 1998, I asked Mandi Ohlin to replace Matt, and
she accepted. On Sunday, August 30, 1998, Matt decided to come back on
board and co-write two episodes.
I created a special hidden, password-protected page for our ideas.
Matt created a page to promote Season 7. We hyped it up. Mandi
suggested that the episodes would be as if they're airing on pay cable
- be 30 minutes long and have cussing. We came up with ideas for 16
episodes. This was going to be awesome.
This all sounded good, right? Well, it was at first. The N Team, at
that point, consisted of 12 regular members and some honorary members.
Building upon the inspiration by and similarities to the TF movie, I
thought that Season 7 would be a great opportunity to kill off some of
the old N Team members, such as Kid Icarus and Duke. The other writers
didn't like the gruesome deaths I had planned, and we got into
arguments.
I got the first draft of Matt's part of the Season 7 premiere episode
on Monday, May 25, 1998. I got the second draft on Thursday, March 18,
1999. I wrote my original contribution to the episode from Saturday,
March 20, 1999, 9:00 PM to Tuesday, March 23, 1999, 6:03 PM. I
finished the final draft of the episode on Wednesday, March 22, 1999,
at 11:49 AM.
During the summer of 1999, Matt, Mandi, and Ellen left the writing
staff. I was alone. Still, with Season 6 ending soon and all the work
already put into Season 7, I was determined that the stories would
happen - even if I had to write them all by myself. During the summer,
I wrote most of the episodes for Season 7.
Message board post (This is turning into Civil War...) by Mike Pinto:
Posted by Admiral Michael Pinto of GRADIUS V on September 20, 1999 at
19:00:32 in 205.188.198.39:
I think that the Message Board has been turning into a battle site
between Mark Moore and Chris Blair. The intesity of these struggles is
alarming, as it is pulling more and more of us into it's inevitable
grasp.
So, I think It's about time we find out who's loyal to who.....
Everybody must choose a side, are you with Moore? Or with Blair?
Either way, there is NO escape or chance of peaceful mediation.
Message board post (A Friday Meeting) by Webster Sterling Swenson:
Posted by Captain N on September 22, 1999 at 05:02:13 in
171.214.125.49:
There will be a meeting at 8:00 PM EST (7:00 PM CST) on #Captain_N on
DALNet.
All N-fans are welcomed but a special invitation goes off to
Spartacus, Dragonicus, Zabgoth, Rashind, mega_man, and, Simon_B.
I'd also like to send out an even larger greeting to Mr. Moore.
Without you, Mark, none of this would have been possible. We do hope
that you'll join us!
Captain N,
CNN
Season 7 premiered on Wednesday, September 22, 1999, with the episode
"Brain Storm".
Message board post (Note of Meeting Tonight, Friday the 24th, 1999 CE)
by Webster Sterling Swenson:
Posted by Captain N on September 24, 1999 at 14:20:53 in
208.23.225.155:
As I have mentioned before, tonight there will be a meeting on DALNet
at 8:00 PM EST until a point yet to be defined. We all hope that you
can be there. There will be Spartweiser, Quefty Pop, and Video Chip
Cookies for all who attend!
Spartacus, Simon_B, mega_man, and myself all look forward to your
being there!
Sincerely,
Captain N
I wrote my original contribution for the second episode on Thursday,
April 29, 1999, from 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM. When the other writers quit,
I wrote most of the rest of the episode from Thursday, August 12,
1999, 1:20 PM to Friday, September 24, 1999, 3:00 PM. I finished the
final draft on Wednesday, September 29, 1999, at 2:49 PM. I put it up
on that same day. The episode was called "Alliance", and it was the
one story that pretty much split the Captain N fandom into two camps.
There was a scene in that episode where Lana masturbated. It wasn't
plot-related. I wrote it in a filler to get the episode up closer to
30K in size. Also, I wrote it to show that Lana does indeed
masturbate. It was a "pay cable" season, and I had a disclaimer on the
Season 7 page on my site, so I thought "Why not?"
Pretty soon, the message board was flamed. People hated me!
Message board post (Season 7 eps so far.) by Chris Blair:
Posted by Chris on September 30, 1999 at 16:49:25 in 207.99.255.131 :
My opinion(note OPINION only) on Mark's work with season 7 so far....
His admitted sick mind is WAY to obvious.
Come on, if you're going to write fanfics based on a KID'S show, then
write it, LIKE a kid's show.
I mean, the extremely detailed Lana in the bed scene in ALLAINCE was
WAY unnessesary.(Mark seems to be making Lana a straight lesbian
instead of just bisexual.)
All in all, it's a good thing that we can't say Matt, Mandi, and
whoever else was going to write season 7 can be linked to the porno
stuff we're getting.
BTW, Mark, as to the Alliance deal.... Wasn't VideoLand ALREADY in a
permenant Alliance, and didn't the Second War last longer than just
your Changes? Wily was still around after that.
Message board post (The rise and fall of N) by Charley Smart:
Posted by Simon B on October 01, 1999 at 05:07:28 in 208.168.151.5:
Well now, where do I start.. how about with these new 'seasons' here..
If anyone here remembers me, you know it's been a while since I left
the Captain N scene, and I had my reasons for leaving. To be blunt, it
was due majorly to how Mark was handling the new fan-written seasons.
At first, I thought it would be an awesome project.. fans across the
internet writing a chain of fanfics to create *entire* seasons of
Captain N.. A pretty impressive undertaking, and at first I thought
it'd bring N back into popularity..
Season 4.. I knew it had some weird restrictions.. You all know about
Lana and the short hair and all that, and all else that Mark decided
was canon, based upon who knows what.. but the one and only N-fic I
wrote somehow made it into Season 4.
"Metal Threat" it was. I had feelings that it wouldn't be accepted
quite as well as the others.. I mean, Kevin and Lana got transported
to Metal Gear, and the soldiers used real guns.. "Maybe a bit too
much?" I thought..
But *NOW*, I see what Mark decides to pass off as his Season 7, (and I
mean *his* Season 7) and I think any worries I had about my fiction
being too graphic were completely ludicrous.. To anyone that has read
any of it, I hope you're feeling better.
I don't call myself a writer in any sense of the word, but I at least
kept the characters as close to their original personalities as I
could. So since no one was killed and no children were conceived in my
story, does that mean it's too "Disneyish" for the new seasons? As far
as N goes, I'd take Disney over late night HBO.
Maybe I'm taking an old 80's kid's show too seriously. But I really
liked that show, and if anyone's reading this, you probably did too.
(I used to like Archie comics too, but let's not open *that* can of
worms)
The law of entropy states that all systems will eventually reach a
state of maximum disorder.. or something to that effect. I think this
system is near chaos.
Ok, that's my rant. If you agree, you don't have to reply, don't even
have to let me know.. just let Mark know. I fear he's destroying what
N used to be.
The 1 B
Simon B
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Message board post (A Call To The N-Fans) by DefeNder N:
Posted by DefeNder N on October 03, 1999 at 05:44:33 in 12.10.18.45 :
My fellow N-fans, I must now say, that I did report Mark's site today.
I could not stand it anymore: Reading of sex, nudity, and gore. This
is a kid's show it is true, but I do believe this report was due.
I remember Mr. Moore, back when it was just Season 4. Back then it was
okay, but it is not today.
Now I must request a call to arm: Stop Mr. Moore from doing more harm!
Save Captain N: Stop Mark Moore!
Message board response post (A message to Mr. Moore) by Charley Smart:
Posted by Simon B on October 03, 1999 at 06:51:09 in 208.168.145.203:
In Reply to: A Call To The N-Fans posted by DefeNder N on October 03,
1999 at 05:44:33:
I remember Season 4 too, because I was a part of it. But no more.
Mark Moore, I know you'll eventually read this, so listen, I don't
like to repeat myself..
I am formally requesting the removal of my Season 4 episode, "Metal
Threat", from your Season 4 archive. Take the story down. I don't want
to be associated with your 'continuation' of the series anymore. It's
an insult to Captain N, and it's now an insult to me. The first domino
has fallen.
Suggestions? Hah!
The 1 B
Simon B
Charley Smart had told me to remove his three-part episode, "Metal
Threat", from Season 4. Those three episodes had been up for over one
year, and I was going to include a character from that episode in a
Season 7 episode. I didn't remove "Metal Threat".
Message board post (Message to N-Fans) by Ben Acha:
Posted by WarLord Cancer on October 03, 1999 at 14:00:40 in
24.30.60.232:
I know thier have been a lot of complaining a bout season 7 content up
to this point. But the reason I think this is because the series
probibly evolves from what fans are left and being ages older than we
thought we would be when we were young during the years it was still
on. We deem the quality of CN as what anyone in our age group deems
new and exciting so it is no longer like a kids show. I finally did
get around to reading that story and I thought that the excerpt in
that episode is probibly more descriptive than other porn stories I
have read in the past (I really don't read them any more that was when
I was 15 and immature even though I am only a year older now.)
But the point is that I pretty sure people who have seen CN in the
past would like to have it to thier level for thier entertainment
because we are all a lot older now. I am having regrets about CN my
favriot show but if everyone pitches in and starts writing CN fanfics
in thier own words no matter what they contain then we will all be a
bit more tolerent of each others work and effort to tell CN the way we
see it and feel it be.
Message board post (OPEN REVOLT!!!!) by Mike Pinto:
Posted by Admiral Pinto on October 04, 1999 at 01:13:52 in
152.163.197.84:
It seems the Season 7 got ya some BAD publicity, eh, Mark?
Looks like your empire of lesbian cartoon characters is coming to a
quick and abrupt end.
We, the TRUE N-Fans, shall bring our leader, Kevin Keene back from the
depths of degradation and back on the road to GLORY!!!
I thought this would turn into a war between Mark and Chris, but
instead, it turned into a full-scale Fan Armageddon!
Alls I gotta say is, Hold on Folks, this is gonna get UGLY!!!
Message board post (A Place to Relive The Good Times) by Webster
Sterling Swenson:
Posted by Captain N on October 04, 1999 at 01:59:55 in 12.15.123.46 :
Season 4... I could stand that. I even wished to write for Mark back
then. But slowly times have changed and I wish nothing more but for
the Good Times of N to be again... without Lana and Kristen making out
every story... or even more. Now I'll admit that I used to support
Mark making Lana and Zelda bi. I was actually the one that pointed out
the infamous 'breast scene' to Mark. I have made my mistakes and now I
wish to try to correct them.
I welcome you to come see CNN and the messageboard. We are a site run
by many of the old writers and fans of Captain N and of #Captain_N on
DALNet back when Mark used to run it. We have decided it is time to
come back and write, work, and try to save N again. This time, though,
we are saving it from the very person that we helped save Captain N
with before: Mark Moore.
Sincerely,
Captain N,
CNN
Message board post (An Alternative) by Adam Stout:
Posted by Mega_Man on October 04, 1999 at 02:30:38 in 207.42.55.113:
Fellow Captain N fans. I am gonna get straight to it. Mark used to be
a good guy. He relieved the whole captain n experience for most of us.
But he took it to far. I mean the changes mini series (as I belive to
be his best work) was awesome except for the lesbian vibes you get
from Lana but that can be over looked. But when I first read the
season 7 episode 2 I was astonished. Captain N doesn't deserve this
smut. I want you to all know that there is an alternative for you to
hang on to the captain n expericence. Me and my affiliates at CNN
"Captain N Network" want to be that alternative. So please join us,
write fanfics for us, send in fanart, post messages on our message
bored, join the new captain n community. Thankyou for your time and
long live captain n.
CNN The Captain N Network
Message board response post (I WANT TO F****ING PUKE!) by Beth:
Posted by Roll Light-Hibiki on October 04, 1999 at 04:27:01 in
4.16.165.19:
In Reply to: An Alternative posted by Mega_Man on October 04, 1999 at
02:30:38:
Now having read Alliance,I feel the title expresses how I feel.What in
the hell was the point of that masturbation scene other than to give
Mark an excuse to be a freakin' pervert?Did it advance the plot?Not at
all!Why did we have to know that?Why did it have to be so graphic?Is
Mark getting off writing this stuff???There was no point to it other
than to be a pervert,no point at all.Mark..quit watching Captain N
with your pants around your ankles for all our sakes!QUIT IT!GEESH!
That was COMPLETELY uncalled for,unnessesary and ill thought
out.Sick,repugnant and vile.Did I mention COMPLETELY
UNNESSESARY??Ugh.......PLEASE if you want to write Lemons,PUT THEM
ELSEWHERE and put a WARNING on them.
Message board post (Now, my side of the story....) by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 04, 1999 at 19:10:53 in 207.65.99.34:
Well, allow me to introduce myself. My name is Eric42 and I am what
you call a fanfic writer. I am going to take the time here for a
moment to rant on about a few things and then plug a couple things,
that will include stuff for myself. Anyways, on with the show.
I am a friend of the guy most of you know as Simon B. and I have been
for quite a while now. This whole time, me and Simon have agreed upon
quite a number of views, including that Pokémon hentai is just plain
sick. Well, we all know that he has put a message here on the board
saying...no, TELLING Mark Moore to take down his story, Metal Threat,
from off the Season 4 episodes. I am behind him 110% on this. What
Mark Moore has done is the unthinkable in most of us.
I have always enjoyed Captain N. I remember that the first time I
watched the show, which was the first time it was ever aired. I ended
up watching it religiously, you could say. I also watched shows like
the Super Mario Bros. Super Show (except it's last season, which was
they dropped Captain Lou and that other guy and put in two guys that
just sucked). I tuned into the Super Show every Friday to see the
Legend of Zelda cartoons, yes. It was in fact about the only thing,
besides the live action scenes which was funny at times, that I wanted
to see.
But Mark Moore has gone that step too far. I consider myself a
straight man and I do believe that I enjoy the company of the female
kind, but using a cartoon's fanfiction as an outlet for it is not the
way I work. Yeah, I downloaded porn when I was younger... who didn't?
I consider myself human most of the time. But like I said, Mark Moore
has gone that step TOO far.
First, it was bad enough that he had to actually include something
like this within his stories. But then to completely change the show
as we knew it.... by having Princess Lana become "bisexual" as he
calls it as well as Princess Zelda and that other girl that was almost
completely his own character. Third, for him to set down these rules
and then break them himself? No. Someone should tell Mark Moore that
rules aren't made to be broken, even by the person who set the rules.
Even in the United States, there is no one that is immune to any of
the rules that have been set.
And with me, it is more than what Mark Moore has done in Season 7 that
has me somewhat steamed. I will give Mark Moore his one credit, he is
the one that *IS* responsible for the Captain N Internet fandom as we
know it. Unfortunately, his legacy includes stories such as the
"Changes" mega-series, which I consider to be complete crap since it
is layered with tons of spelling errors and grammar mistakes, as well
as other things, I am sure. His "rule" over the so-called
"Fan-Written" episodes is basically his showing people that no matter
what you wrote, it would changed to whatever he wanted. I have heard
quite a few jokes on this, but this is quite serious in nature. In
fact, you could say that what Mark Moore has done in changing these
stories is a breach of the copyright rules.
The so-called "movie" was pure crap, worse than the "Changes"
mini-series. The few pages that I have read of the "movie" were crap.
I finally decided that there was NO WAY I would force myself to finish
reading it. But you know what now bothers me? I knew he would be this
way from the beginning but yet, never said anything. I remember when I
first was pointed to his page, I emailed him with an episode
suggestion for me to write, but it was based upon the relationship
(that was built in the actual show, though not much) between Princess
Lana and Kevin Keene. He replied that his plans were to not have Lana
and Kevin together but to have Lana with someone else. I wish I still
had that email, but I lost in a crash a little over a year ago. DO'AH!
Though that there a few things that I feel he did right in the
beginning (which includes the "rules" he set), he has not done a good
job at all. Note that there are quite a few episodes that are good and
a couple that are above average, just none of them are by Mark Moore.
I am not trying to say that everything by Mark Moore was bad, it just
that most of what he has done has come out to be bad. He did couple
things right in the beginning....
But I think it all goes to show that perhaps we have put to much faith
in such a man. The man responsible for the Internet fandom is also the
man that has gone and done this thing. I could point out a million
more things that are on his pages that will show just how sick he
really is, but it would be just complete monotony. So what we should
do is learn from this and do it ourselves and do it RIGHT. Not the way
that we feel is right, but what we KNOW it right. If we set rules,
there will be NO immunity. The rules apply the everyone, includes the
ones that set them. If there is suppose to be nothing with a sexual
theme to it in the stories, then THERE ISN'T SUPPOSE TO BE ANYTHING
WITH A SEXUAL THEME TO IT IN THEM!
So, this brings me to the plugs that I want to do. The group that
basically originally helped Mark in the beginning, including my good
friend Simon B, have started up a brand new page that is located at
http://thunder.prohosting.com/~captainn/index.html and is called the
Captain N Network. These guys have done what I consider a damn good
job of organizing this new section of the Captain N fandom. This page
includes everything for the recipe of success calls for. A message
board, sections dedicated to fanfiction and fanart, AND pages that are
for the show itself. Overall, the page looks great. In a way, I would
love to help them start a "fan-written" season like Mark Moore has
done himself, but for the time being, I will be just doing my own
thing.
Oh, and that reminds me, CNN (The Captain N Network) will also be the
home of my brand new fanfiction series called "Next Step". I believe
that the "Prelude" will be included in the next update so it should be
up soon. And also, some big news which will include me and my generous
offer to help CNN will be announced as soon as it takes place. And
this news will be somewhat big. It because of my recent actions to
help CNN that they have as off last night made me an official member
of the Captain N Network and I was highly honored. Guys, the Captain N
Network is a great place to go. I would have said that last night, and
was somewhat planning to, even though as you notice, I didn't. The new
era of the Captain N fandom is among us.
My name is Eric42. I am a fanfic writer.
The Captain N Network
Message board post (Time To Mediate) by Ben Acha:
Posted by WarLord Cancer on October 04, 1999 at 20:08:58 in
24.30.60.232 :
It seems as though there is alot of people against the CN revival at
hand because it is like someone about to come out of coma then goes on
the verge of death due to Heart Failure. And guess who is causing CN
to fail is people who want it ousted because that content would not be
in a kid's show. Well wake up it is not a show anymore but a story
written on the computer and kids don't find this site because they do
not know who Captain N, for it is actually people in this age group
who have and probibly have been the only ones to have viewed
this(16-26) which is the age of all N-Fans as currently as now. Also
in Japan kids view content close to that so it doesn't matter to that
maybe us americans ought to get a bit of education and tolerence about
what could happen and what really goes and I say that should happen at
an early age.
no more wars or anything like that lets just pick-up where we left off
as writting Captain N
left off Season 7. If it continues like then Zannen Desu ne. We got to
get our concentration to what is more important and just have this
"sex act" roll off our backs and be prepared for what may come from
this.
However it means starting over then it might be subject to that in
that fashion. However if it continues like that to bad....Lana is not
perfect, neither is no one else from what I have read in that series
is and it makes it a bit more interesting that way that way they have
charcter and have different feelings and are not all thinking on the
same pace politics/clergy/and the media want them to.
Time to Mediate everyone! we need to get mark in a chat room with two
other people that represent us and get this all under water.
doomo arigato,
Warlord Cancer
Message board post (Mark Moore Ruined Captain N) by Kyle Rieger:
Posted by Kyle R Captain 64 on October 04, 1999 at 23:55:03 in
171.217.108.46:
Everyone knows it now. Mark Moore Ruined our once great show Captain
N: The Game Master. Now it is common Trash like Howard Stern and Jerry
Springer. He started with the Lesbian angle well Mark i hate to tell
ya but this ain't the WWF. Then it was the Admitting Lana Masterbates.
Listen Mark Captain N was G or PG and U turned it to Rated R.
also one Thing some people missed is on his errors page. First he says
Metroid sweet Metroid he says Lana doesn't wear underwear. Why he
would point this out i have now idea. Then in THE LOST CITY OF
KONGOLAND he says word for word this
After Simon and Lana land on the ground, Lana takes out the map from
somewhere below her chest. Not really a mistake, but it's something to
think about. ^_^
What is Screwed up in his head?
I am Kyle Rieger
I am Captain 64
I am the New Game Master
I am For the Captain N Network
The Captain N Network This site has wholesome Captain N
Message board post (-id's final thought) by -id:
Posted by -id on October 05, 1999 at 02:10:35 in 209.30.228.41 :
I've gotten to thinking about this whole Captain N thing. You know
what I came up with? I don't think this is worth arguing so much over.
I don't care if you report Mark's site, I don't care what tripod does
if they do anything, and I don't care about his new stories.
If you don't like his stuff, don't read it. Simple as that. You don't
need to make sure everyone else knows your opinion (which is likely
the same as just about everyone else's) on Mark's newest scene. Get on
with your life and concern yourself with other evils in the world than
two paragraphs in an isolated corner of the internet. Like organized
religion, for example, but I won't go into that.
I've decided to not be a hypocrite about this, and stop posting
anything about it. I'm also not going to read any more of Mark's fics,
not because of their 'content issues,' but because I highly dislike
his writing style. No continuity whatsoever, no thought behind some
actions (like the removal of Romeo and Julius), and most of all, he
doesn't show us what happens, he tells us. He needs to write a
description, not a script.
But I digress.
You people should realize just how small the entire Captain N movement
on the internet is. I would be willing to bet there is more interest
in basket-weaving online than Captain N. And what is it with all these
people naming themselves Captain N or Captain 64 and writing
themselves into their fanfics? Perhaps loosely basing a character on
themselves would be alright, but throwing yourself as the main
character of your fanfic? Personally I think a story with me as the
main character would be very boring indeed, unless it focused on my
thought processes. Then it would be just plain confusing.
My original defense of Mark was just to make the arguements
interesting. I mean, what fun is a debate without an opposing side?
But this is just too much. I've decided I don't care enough. So I'd be
surprised if my name showed up on this message board again.
I will do people the kindness to read any replies they might decide to
post, but I won't reply. Unless, of course, there are any personal
attacks at me. Then I will use you as a person to vent anger upon.
Believe me, it won't be pretty, but it sure will relieve a lot of
stress from me.
-InsaneDream
I must add, however, that if you wish to see me on any message board,
I will probably be somewhat active at the Captain N Network. Someone
else can post the URL again if they must.
Message board post (A correction) by Adam Stout:
Posted by Mega_Man on October 05, 1999 at 02:21:06 in 207.42.55.190:
Just wanted to let you all know that the site CNN is not just my site.
I am just one of the few affiliates that include N-Finity, Sparticus,
Eric42, Simon_B, and myself. Thanks.
Message board response post by Kyle Rieger:
Posted by Kyle R Captain 64 on October 05, 1999 at 03:29:46 in
171.217.224.220:
In Reply to: A correction posted by Mega_Man on October 05, 1999 at
02:21:06:
Yes i am also an affilate For the Captain N Network
Message board post (I really don't care ...) by Cynthia Chan:
Posted by Cynthia Chan on October 05, 1999 at 17:52:07 in
141.117.243.223:
... about what you do with Mark and his stuff anymore. What he does is
his business and there's nothing you can do but complain to his ISP.
I'm just going to sit back and watch you all as you try to pulverize
the guy, and he tries to pulverize you all. This has gotten so out of
hand, that I won't join in unless I too have something to say.
Warning: Mark updates his site every Wednesday. Be sure that he will,
or already has, read our posts, and will be armed to the teeth when he
dives into this board again.
Cynthia Chan
Message board response post by Dark Emperor Freeza:
Posted by Dark Emperor Freeza on October 05, 1999 at 19:48:14 in
205.188.198.58 :
In Reply to: I really don't care ... posted by Cynthia Chan on October
05, 1999 at 17:52:07:
Oh, really? Well, I for one am going to the Captain N Network from now
on, thank you. It's not actually the sex scene that bothers me, it's
that man's insufferable whims of "My way or the highway....." Thank
you Mr. Moore, but I am going to get my kicks on Route 66.
On Tuesday, October 5, 1999, I shut off my computer, planning on
finishing the third story the next day and putting it up. When I
turned my computer on Wednesday, my hard drive crashed. The original
draft of the story was lost.
I was devestated. Not only had I lost all of the Season 7 episodes,
but I had lost all of my files. I lost e-mails from friends. I no
longer have a record of how I met Mandi Paugh or the development of
our friendship over the past three years. It was a big loss for me.
Still, I was determined to not let this stop Season 7. Once I got my
new hard drive, I rewrote most of the episodes. Due to time
constraints and my memory, I knew that I couldn't rewrite everything
that I had lost. I got rid of story plots, removed episodes, combined
some episodes into one, and added in a bunch of filler. One example of
filler was in episode 8, "Separation Anxiety". I was writing an essay
at the time about the Biblical canon for my Survey Of Christian
Theology I class, so I had Kristen teach a class about the Biblical
canon and copied-and-pasted large paragraphs of my essay into the
fanfic.
Message board post (Die by my cluck) by Michael Lee Rohm:
Posted by DISCO DUCK on October 07, 1999 at 00:35:14 in 209.208.9.126:
Are you people so pathetic that you care about honor in fanfics about
a poorly animated 90s cartoon?
I want more sex in Captain N stories. Naked women are my cup of tea. I
guess you're all closet HO MO SEX UALS.
Mike had made that post, but everyone believed it was me.
Message board response post (I know its hard to come out...) by
Webster Sterling Swenson:
Posted by Captain N on October 07, 1999 at 04:44:44 in 12.10.18.190:
In Reply to: Die by my cluck posted by DISCO DUCK on October 07, 1999
at 00:35:14:
Mark, I just want you to know that it's hard to come out and, when
this is all over with, you'll be happy that you have.
Remember: "It's okay to be gay."
Webster S. Swenson,
Happy With His Orientation
Message board post (If Mark wants things to be canon ...) by Cynthia
Chan:
Posted by Cynthia Chan on October 09, 1999 at 04:10:46 in
216.154.30.87:
... he would keep Captain N as a kid's show and introduce those new
characters that we've seen in Seasons 4-6. There would be no sex
stuff, as kids are too young to understand. There would be no silly
things as pilots jumping out at the last second before the plane
explodes, make them jump at the last hour.
Mark, if what people say is true, and you are sick, then get well
soon. Otherwise you'll lose your fandom.
Cynthia Chan
Message board response post by Ben Acha:
Posted by WarLord Cancer on October 09, 1999 at 21:05:10 in
24.30.60.232:
In Reply to: If Mark wants things to be canon ... posted by Cynthia
Chan on October 09, 1999 at 04:10:46:
True, Mark is being a bit of a jerk.I just wish he would leave us a
message explaining why he fekt the sheer need to put that up there and
upset us or change the general mood of it. On a different note I will
respond to this message, this is no longer a kid's show however.
Captain N in it's current state is not a show nor do kids know to come
to this site or either care. Which leaves the hands of this site in
the age group of (16-26). How many times do I have to stress that fact
it is not a show nor do kids read it....I am tired of hearing it as a
kid's show!!! However from Mark I need an explaination of one of two
things.
1.) why he wrote that stuff in CN.
2.) Why he is somewhat of a dictator of this site.
Message board response post (Re: If Mark wants things to be canon ...
(AHEM!)) by Webster Sterling Swenson:
Posted by Captain N - You Know He's Fifteen, Don't You? on October 10,
1999 at 06:25:40 in 12.10.18.187:
In Reply to: Re: If Mark wants things to be canon ... posted by
WarLord Cancer on October 09, 1999 at 21:05:10:
Sixteen to twentysix? I do take offense every time I do see those
numbers for I am only fifteen. Captain N is a kids' show. The fanfics
written after it are not.
Now I hate Mark as much as the next N-Fan (assuming the next N-Fan
hates Mark as much as I) but I do hate even more when people say that
it is...
1) ...not a kids' show.
2) ...bad.
3) ...a horrible cartoon.
4) ...with an age group of sixteen to twentysix.
Lets keep it a kid show for one more year... shall we?
Captain N
On Tuesday, October 12, 1999, I put up episode 3, "Knee-Deep in the
Dead". It was mostly a novelization of the first Doom game, but it
also dealt with Stacey having to kill a human being for the first
time. It also introduced a recurring storyline of Stacey becoming
romantically attracted to Lana. Fans didn't like that last part.
I posted the following (Season 7) to my message board:
Posted by Mark Moore on October 12, 1999 at 23:51:09 in 209.26.98.34:
The next episode, "Knee-Deep in the Dead" is up. See the "What's New
in Videoland" section for details.
As for Season 7 (especially "Alliance"), I have this to say:
I started this continuation of Captain N. I make the ultimate
decisions of what happens.
I write these stories for my own enjoyment. I put them up in case
someone wants to read them.
I write what I want to happen. I don't listen to fans' demands.
If you don't like the stories, don't read them. Plain and simple.
As for accusations of me breaking my own episode writing rules, I have
this to say:
I wrote the episode writing rules for other writers, not myself.
When I say I'm "excempt", I say that I expect to be able to break that
rule and not get yelled at. That means I follow the other rules, but
only because I want to. I have no obligation to. It's my continuity.
Finally, in Season 7, I decided to drop a bunch of rules.
But look for more rules in Season 8.
Message board response post (Mark Moore Is Always Right) by Squealer
the Pig:
Posted by Squealer the Pig on October 13, 1999 at 01:42:01 in
12.15.123.7 :
In Reply to: Season 7 posted by Mark Moore on October 12, 1999 at
23:51:09:
Let us remember: "Mark Moore is always right." just like Napoleon.
Napoleon was always right, wasn't he?
Let us praise that which our Leader, Comrade Mark Moore, has turned
from wonderful, generally non-sexual writings into horribly written,
badly dialoged, smut! Let us praise him! Let Mark Moore be our leader
forever! Chant with me, fellow N-fans!
Moore! Moore! Moore! Moore! Moore!
After all, we don't want good authors and quality writings to come
back, do we, my fellow N-fans?
Message board response post (Mark Moore Is Always Right) by Webster
Sterling Swenson:
Posted by Captain N on October 13, 1999 at 01:47:51 in 12.15.123.7:
In Reply to: Season 7 posted by Mark Moore on October 12, 1999 at
23:51:09:
Mark, look at what you've done: You've turned it into pornography. I
miss the good old days when, even though you had made Lana and Zelda
bi, they were still for the most part not touching sexually and the
such. I really do miss those days, Mark. I wish you could somehow
return to them.
BTW: Squealer is right. You are much like Napoleon from Animal Farm.
You change the commandments whenever you wish so that it suits your
needs. It is sad what has become of our own 'Animal Farm'.
Hmm... that gives me an idea. An... N...
Mark. Please, change what you do before it's too late to go back.
One of Many,
Captain N
Message board post (Ownership) by Charley Smart:
Posted by Simon B on October 14, 1999 at 04:04:59 in 208.168.145.189:
To all past, present, and aspiring authors..
Just thought you'd like to know that Mark seems to think that any
story submitted to him that he uses for the new Seasons is *his*
property. At least for Metal Threat anyway. Doesn't look like he's
removing it anytime soon..
Wait, I'm the original author.. Hmm, I wonder.. oh wait! Copyright
law?
I'll be right back..
- Simon B
Message board post (Quote) by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 16, 1999 at 06:18:06 in 207.65.110.44:
I thought I'd share a quote I found...
"I have yet to come across so much self-righteous bullshit as when I
gaze upon the massive heap of crap that is the Mark Moore web
experience."
Who knew, eh?
Message board response post by Ben Acha:
Posted by WarLord Cancer on October 16, 1999 at 11:36:36 in
24.30.60.232 :
In Reply to: Quote posted by Eric42 on October 16, 1999 at 06:18:06:
You think you're pushin it a bit to far I think...it is dumb to keep
this going I am personally not a fan of Mark Moore either but it is
dumb to keep this rolling over two fukking paragraphs!!!! I have
already explained why.
On Monday, October 18, 1999, I put up episode 4, "Star Light, Star
Bright". It was a follow-up to Season 6's "Star-Crossed", and it set
in motion events that would change the series. I'll get to that in a
bit. As for this episode, fans again didn't like the Lana / Kristen
romance - or the scene where Stacey got naked and lay down next to
Lana on a bed.
Also, October 18 was my 21st birthday. A few days earlier, I had
discovered the Season 1 episode of "The Transformers" titled "Roll For
It" in a small video rental store in another town. Since I got a
double-deck VCR as an early birthday present, I decided to drive back
there on the 18th, rent that episode, and copy it. While I was there,
I came across a video cassette containing "Truly Outrageous!", the
original "Jem" miniseries. I loved "Jem" while I was growing up. I had
watched it every weekday afternoon after school. So, I rented that and
copied it, too. This will have significance later on. For the moment,
"Jem" brought some joy to my life and helped me get my mind off of the
hard drive crash.
Message board post (to Eric42) by Ben Acha:
Posted by WarLord Cancer on October 19, 1999 at 19:30:02 in
24.30.60.232 :
I would definatly say you have a lot of problems to try to combat Mark
Moore's style of writing with your method it just doesn't work. You
are not going to get anywhere complaining about how much you or other
people hate him. An easier way of putting it is that by just
complaining or giving out estimated statistics you are not
accomplishing your real goal. I know you strongly dissagre with Mark
but if you don't like his way the best method is to start writing your
own fanfics which are different. By starting your own you are
expressing CN the way you want it and would thereforebring attention
to your stories making everyone abanded Mark. You got that I hope you
at least give this thought.
WarLord Cancer
Message board response post by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 19, 1999 at 22:55:31 in 207.65.110.225:
In Reply to: to Eric42 posted by WarLord Cancer on October 19, 1999 at
19:30:02:
Okay, where do I start? "My style" of writing is howso? Are you
talking about the way I am posting here on this board? Okay. Allow me
to explan my actions.
Mark Moore is canon foder to me. He means nothing to me but has become
a target of my insults, yes. (That qoute ISN'T mine, so don't think I
came up with it. k?) BUT, I am hopping on over to another leaf. He
will remain a target, but of stuff like my reviews (which ARE done,
just not sure where they'll crop up.) I have been a fanfic reviewer
for quite some time now in other areas of fanfiction and I have now
felt the urge to do them here. But do beware that Mark isn't the sole
target of mine in these. If only it was fair, I myself would also
become a target, but I will not review myself (guest reviewers,
perhaps?). But of course, there's more. I am also going to start some
"MiSTings" of Season 7! Yes, some brand new Mark Moore-inspiried
MiSTings! That means, the current four that are posted and any more
that will be posted will be MiSTed in the traditional MST3K way. Of
course, I have never MiSTed a story before, so they may come off rough
for a while until I get the hang of it.
Oh yeah, I've already started my own fanfic series. I guess that if
you would have visited CNN , you would have known this already. I have
planned alot of stuff. But I have also somewhat started on a gag-fic
that will star key people in the Captain N fandom going against the
evil overlord, Mark Moore! Muhahahah... (ok, I haven't really, but I
have been wanting too...)
My story on CNN can be found by heading to [link removed] and looking
at N: Next Step by Eric Richardson. That's me, Eric Richardson.
Anyways, do tell me what you think of the story. I am working on "book
one" though it keeps going through rewrites and edits so I dunno when
I'll actually finish it ;)
Message board response post by Ben Acha:
Posted by WarLord Cancer on October 19, 1999 at 23:49:59 in
24.30.60.232 :
In Reply to: Re: to Eric42 posted by Eric42 on October 19, 1999 at
22:55:31:
That's great. I like Mark Moore's writing (except if he was horny
while writing.) But he isn't as bad writer as everyone says...I am
starting a FanFic of my own and it probibly doesn't even measure up to
other fanfics. However I just hate how he breaks his own rules....I
mean this is the USA and not china, so the governing forces can't
violate thier own rules.....(except for Bill Clinton.) well thats all
I haveto say I hope to read your work later on...My work will be on
both sites if possible. I won't get mad at Mark for two scenes and the
only real p roblem is that those scenes are out of place...but at
least it was very descriptive......but yet still out place I think
that is dumb. But for the most part I am pretty much liberal as far as
CN is concearned.
Message board response post by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 20, 1999 at 00:33:49 in 207.65.99.133:
In Reply to: Re: to Eric42 posted by WarLord Cancer on October 19,
1999 at 23:49:59:
It's more than just TWO scenes. The sexual scenes that Mark has put in
his Season 7 spans a total of FOUR stories, with the fourth story just
posted. The scenes are very much so out of place and don't belong
ANYWHERE in Captain N fanfiction. Well, I guess you can have your
opinions, and my on this case is that Mark's stories are pretty much
lame to begin with. I always think I am reading the stories of a forth
grader. Allow me to quote something here....
"He cursed, forcing a good deal of mud from his mouth."
That's from "Brain Storm", the first story in Mark's "Season 7 ". Now,
explain this to me.... How could one curse with a mouth full of mud?
How could cursing help force up mud from the throat? I would think one
would "choke" up mud or something like that but to curse up mud?
Okay.... (Note to Mark Moore: Use common sense, please!)
This is the story that proves that Mark is a dirty, sick old man. (old
just being there for effect....)
The funny thing is that the part of the story that Eric42 had quoted
was written by Matt Slater, not me.
The link at the end of his post was to an Archie story that I had
written where Betty kills Archie in self-defense.
Message board post (Are you prepared?) by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 21, 1999 at 22:08:33 in 207.65.110.63:
A new era of the Captain N fandom and The Captain N Network has begun.
ARE you prepared?
.....Coming Soon, a brand NEW Captain N Network.....
...You best come prepared, else you'll left behind...
(A press release on this whole thing will be posted soon within the
pages of The Captain N Network.)
The Captain N Network - Coming soon... A NEW Captain N Network....
Message board post (*sigh*) by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 26, 1999 at 05:53:18 in 207.65.110.28:
(This message is being posted to both the CN/Z Message Board and the
CNN Message Board.)
*sigh* Boy, times around the areas of Captain N fandom are getting
rough. Battles and wars are raging, debates becoming these battles
main source of fuel. One wants to debate simple items, instead of
using the energy to make something better. To those that are writing
fanfiction and the such, you are just among the first step. They are
those that are writing fanfics that also among those in the battles.
Let's just do something: Stop Battling. Sounds much more simple than
it really is, I guess, because there have been efforts to stop the
battles by people and most of them were unsuccessful. "Let's stop Mark
Moore!" Fine, most of us have done that, but yet, why is the fire
still raging? What's fueling it? When one posts their opinion, they
are ridiculed for doing so, almost as if their opinions are the
opinions of the Keeper himself.
"To each their own" is something that I like to say.... now. Yes, I
was a one of those that attempted to keep the fire going to put
pressure on Mark Moore, but alas I figured something out. Mark Moore
wouldn't budge and I of all people should have realized that. But I
didn't know the character that was Mark Moore. I did some research and
came of the information that I had figured out to begin with. So I
stopped and regained the attitude that instead of bickering, help
those that want to become something become something. That's why I
came to join with The Captain N Network, but now ever after trying to
help out there for a while, I have become dissatisfied with the way
it's ran. Unfortunately, CNN is now being plagued by no updates and an
war-fueled message board.
I have already admitted in a message over on the CNN message board
that I have become a Captain N purist and I gave an argument about
that as well. Yes, I want Captain N to basically remain like it was,
but as a writer and a intelligent person, I realize that change is
evident. I am writing my own Captain N fanfic series (the "prelude"
can be found on CNN) and within it I will be making some drastic
changes to the N-Team and Captain N. But no where in my stories will
be find items and situations of adult nature. I'm sorry if you are
among those that enjoy such material. Perhaps my stories are not for
you. There are other people out there that are 100 times better at
writing such material to begin with. Find them. I am trying not to
sound completely rude, but one of the things I do stand for is no
"sex" in Captain N.
Yes, I realize the arguments that can be made about why there
should/could be sex in a Captain N story. "How else is Kevin Keene
going to have children?" and "Just because it's a cartoon doesn't mean
that they don't." are two of the main ones that I have seen in debates
such as this one. Some of us out here don't thrive on the stuff. Yes,
I'm human and having been on the Internet for about five or so years
now, I've downloaded my share of porn, I will admit. But I also
considered myself an intelligent person that can think about other
things. Sex is never the first thing on my mind. I love video games,
computers, and yes, I do like to take women out when I find the
chance. I am human and I am a male. I also consider myself to be
somewhat of that guy that protects women and attempts to keep them
safe. But when I find/see a beautiful woman, sex is most of the time
the farthest thing from my mind.
And on to a related subject about stories with men and/or women that
are "gay/bi-sexual". Should they be allowed in stories? "Why?" asks
one group. "But why not?" asks the other. Here's my question: Why? I
am not going to go on record saying that they shouldn't be there. I
just feel that the subject when it is related to Captain N fanfiction
lays out there in the middle of a mine-field. If you can write a story
with the subject in a good, clean way, more power to you. But most of
the time, when an author writes a story that deals with the sexuality
of a character, sexual themes are doomed to become the topic of a
future story. That's where I draw my line. To even declare a character
a certain sexuality is suggesting sexual themes, even if it's dealing
with Gay/Bi characters or just plain "straight" characters.
And that brings me to yet another related subject, relationships. With
what I said in the previous paragraph, it would sound as if I am
against relationships as well. Well, I am not. Read the previously
mentioned "prelude" and you will see a relationship between Kevin
Keene and Lana that I am trying to build on. It leads to some
emotional turmoil for the duo. But anyway to continue, Relationships
in my opinion can help build the storyline. Of course, if done right,
sex can as well. But Relationships are clean and doesn't often make
people winch in fear as they read about them. Sex often does.
SO what does this whole thing really mean? Nothing. It's just a rant
by me. I had to get something off my chest about what's going on. I
have been trying to do some offline reading (yeah, you know those
things called books, don't ya?) to help me keep a focus on things. I
have been writing a good bit more recently. I hope to have something
else in the way of fanfics out soon. Perhaps the first "book" of my
series will be out soon, and I hope that it'll be doozy. ;) I have
also started on what I am considering my third "book" in the series,
but it will not be released until at least the first two are released,
of course. Of course, by the time I make it to the third "book", you
guys will hopefully be wondering what's left for me to do. I do have a
lot of tricks up my sleeve on this one. ;)
For now, I am Eric42 (eri...@planetc.com) signing off. I am going to
be taking a break from the activities on these message boards. I will
be checking them often, but unless I see that it requires a response
by me, I will not respond to anything. I hopefully will be writing on
my stories and not playing around like I do sometimes. Who knows, btw,
what I will do when I return. For now....
On Wednesday, October 27, 1999, I put up episode 5, "Valiant Heroes".
It was a crossover between the Captain N TV series and the Captain N
comic book series. I added Samus Aran to the TV series' N Team. Fans
pretty much liked it. Stacey finally told Lana about her feelings for
her. Lana told Stacey that 4 relationships would be too much for her,
but she could dump someone. I guess that left fans wondering who Lana
would dump.
Message board post (Valiant Heros? Oh! I get it (I'm dumb)!) by Kelly
Lea Harris:
Posted by KLH on October 28, 1999 at 03:36:09 in 162.42.18.198:
Except for the cussing and asking Stacey the million dollar question,
the latest episode reminds me of certain Star Trek: Deep Space 9
episodes that take place in the mirror universe.
I liked the "wrestling" scene. Samus cheating doesn't surprise me.
Message board response post by Hanichi:
Posted by Hanichi on October 28, 1999 at 20:11:25 in 24.30.60.232 :
In Reply to: Valiant Heros? Oh! I get it (I'm dumb)! posted by KLH on
October 28, 1999 at 03:36:09:
all in all a great effort I say....much better than ep#4 ep#2 and #1
it had action charcter development and not a bad concept even though I
hate star trek.
Message board post (Note about Mark's page) by Tony Piazza:
Posted by Dorito316 on October 29, 1999 at 13:27:11 in 147.226.61.111:
I'll make this quick...
I know everyone is slamming Mark's fiction work. I happen to agree
with most in saying that it doesn't live up to the standards we've all
come to expect from Captain N.
However, let's not forget that Mark also still has the main Captain N
page, which is based entirely on the show. I still happen to like this
site.
So, while we may all hate Mark's season 7, let us not forget that he
still has given us a very good general captain n page and a place to
share our own captain n stories.
-Tony Piazza
Message board response post by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 29, 1999 at 20:56:39 in 207.65.99.72:
In Reply to: Note about Mark's page posted by Dorito316 on October 29,
1999 at 13:27:11:
Okay, so you are saying that Mark has done what only he has done? You
are saying that no one else can make a Captain N website, that's
better or even at equal with Mark Moore's page? Well, now, I never
thought of it that way, ALL HAIL THE LORD MARK MOORE. [/sarcasm]
In other words, Mark Moore has only bee the first real guy to complete
a page like such. Anyone with the want to and know how can make a page
even better than this crap.
Message board response post (To Eric42) by Hanichi:
Posted by Hanichi on October 29, 1999 at 22:01:22 in 24.30.60.232 :
In Reply to: Re: Note about Mark's page posted by Eric42 on October
29, 1999 at 20:56:39:
If you don't like it then you can just get your silly ass off of this
page clear and simple...you have an attitude problem....I respect the
CNN and this page as equals in the battle to get CN back on. So stop
being such a extremist toward Mark. His writing isn't all bad he has
set up a nice site....is probibly a nicer person than you anyway.
Message board response post by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 29, 1999 at 23:43:36 in 207.65.110.54:
In Reply to: To Eric42 posted by Hanichi on October 29, 1999 at
22:01:22:
Attitude problem? Me? Uhm, well, perhaps, but no where near what it
seems you have. First off, I as well do respect what Mark has done on
his Tripod site. All I pointed out with what I said was that despite
what Mark has done, it CAN be done by someone else, either it be CNN
or somewhere else and can be done better. I am being an extremist
towards idioticy and ignorance towards those that wish claim that Mark
is the god of Captain N fandom, when all he really is in the possible
founder of the Internet fanfom.
Oh and btw, I do wish I had all the email I have received from Mark
that were replies to my questions, etc that I had sent him at one
point. If I compared those with the way I am currently writing, then I
would carry to guess that he's an asshole. I am quite a nice guy to
know, real-life and online, until someone pisses me off. I wouldn't
doubt that if I met Mark in real life that he could be a nice-guy. The
same could be said about you. But guess the fuck what. I'M NOT
JUDGEING ON THAT, ASSHOLE. I personally don't care what Mark writes in
his stories anymore. In fact, my current position is fuck Mark. I am
writing my own stories at this point in time. I have even left CNN for
the time being because of it. I haven't been bashing Mark for quite a
while now, but yet you act as if I have been posting one bash after
another. How about *YOU* getting a life this time, ok? *calms down*
And I'm not pissed off yet, but I'm not going to get this way. Oh
please remember something: Here, I express my own OPINION. If you
don't like it, don't worry about it. My opinion isn't yours and I'll
never try to force my opinion on to you. Instead of name calling and
cussing people out, how about next time you using the empty head of
yours?
Message board response post by Tony Piazza:
Posted by Tony Piazza on November 01, 1999 at 12:30:29 in
147.226.61.111:
In Reply to: Re: Note about Mark's page posted by Eric42 on October
29, 1999 at 20:56:39:
No no no....
I'm saying that Mark Moore was the first really noticable site out
there. I mean, there are others now. But, you have to admit, he does
have a lot of stuff on the TV series site. Like I said before, I'm not
that fond of the guy because of his stories, but you have to admit
that he has done a lot of good work when it comes to strictly TV
series related material.
Message board post (Oh man, this is good...) by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on October 30, 1999 at 23:09:00 in 207.65.110.189:
Gee, have I been the center of attention. People have been cussing me
out in improper Japanese AND German. Oh well. It's not like I care to
much anyways. Actually, I think I gave the message board life. ;)
hehehe...
Allow me to explain something.
1) I don't care about Mark. He's an idiot and I'll leave it at that. I
do respect Mark on what he did on his Tripod page. He has created a
pretty comprehisive Captain N fan site. I did post my opinion to this
board about how despite what Mark has done, anyone else can do it if
they wanted. So far, the closet that I've seen anyone do is CNN and I
think it's somewhat dying. Posting my opinion, I am guessing, was a
mistake to more than half of this board's regulars, because it angered
them. My opinion clashed with theirs so I became the bad guy.
2) About this "war" that has started because I replied in "bad" way to
Doctor Arcade's flame towards those that posted blank messages....
It's funny to me. To be cussed out improperly in many different
languages is kinda funny. Of course, the whole thing started because
Doctor Arcade acted childish and "demanded" an apology. An apology,
mind you, for something simply trivial. If he asked me to apologize,
perhaps I would have. "demanding" something from me is something that
only our lord can do. But now, if the ol' Doc wants an apology, I will
but only after he apologizes to me for starting this crap. And since I
don't see that happening anytime soon.....
3) My situration with CNN is really unknown, espeically by me. I "was"
taking a break from everything, but as you noticed that break never
happened. CNN could a good place but only if they get off their butts
and actually put content on the site. Right now, the site is pretty
bare and the fancyish design doesn't make up for that. In my month
abancse, I would love to see CNN really grow into something other than
a message board and a second home to Fanfiction. Some more content is
needed and I do believe Web knows what there is that needs to be done.
We all went over that one night and I even was hyped up about helping,
but then Web stopped. So I dunno if I will return to CNN or not. When
I return, I will see then.
4) Oh yeah, now to the point of this entire message. Starting Monday,
November 1st., I will be taking a month's absance from the entire
Internet. Yup, that means no IRC, no WWW surfing, and no message
boards. This isn't because of anything that's been going on. I really
don't want to leave this message board in particular because it's just
making me laugh everytime I read the stupid messages of flamage. I
will be able to be reached via email if anyone wants to contact me and
have an intellient email debate, of which I have participated in
before and have loved doing them since I started since I usally end up
winning. And no, I am not talking about a debate on how much I suck or
something. Intelligent, I said. Anyways, I will be here one more day
and then I'm gone until December. I will return, unless the board's
taken down. ;) That's not a threat... that's a promise.
For now, I am Eric42.
Message board post (Okay, Who wrote this?) by Chris Blair:
Posted by Chris on November 01, 1999 at 19:47:43 in 207.99.255.131 :
Either someone speak up and admit to this, or I'll assume it was Mark.
Just who said for a Captain N Movie, "Lana nd Zelda should be in
love"?
That's just wrong for a new generation of N ideas.
On Wednesday, November 3, 1999, I put up episode 6, "Instruments of
Destruction". It was pretty much a Samus episode. Fans didn't like how
i had Samus get drunk and kiss Lana. They thought I would pair them
together. I wouldn't.
On Monday, November 15, 1999, I put up episode 7, "The Shadow of Our
Night". It caused outrage (again) on the message board, because it
appeared as though Kevin had been murdered. However, some fans saw the
clues I had inserted that indicated that he wasn't dead. Lana was now
Captain N. Filler in this episode included lots of praying at Kevin's
memorial service. I kept copying and pasting the Hail Mary. Still, one
reviewer actually gave the episode a 7/10.
On Monday, November 29, 1999, I put up episode 8, "Separation
Anxiety". It dealt with a vampire-hunting mission to Castlevania. Fans
didn't like Kristen's class on the Biblical canon or the general plot.
On Wednesday, December 8, 1999, I put up episode 9, "The Touch". It
involved Kevin's rescue. Filler included Samus reciting the plot of
all 3 Metroid games. In this episode, I had Lana, claiming seniority,
remain Captain N, despite the fact that they rescued Kevin. The way I
see it, Lana had a right to do this, since she was the original leader
of the N Team prior to Kevin's arrival. However, the fans didn't see
it that way. They said that Captain N was more than just a title; he
was the prophecied savior of Videoland. I argued that it didn't
matter, since Kevin had long since fulfilled the prophecy. Fans hated
that I had Lana and Zelda caressing each other's breasts while
relaxing after a stressful day. Fans didn't like that I had Duke die
of old age. One fan claimed that Duke was still young for a dog. Where
did he get Duke's age from? Other fans hated that Kevin had the body
burned. One fan called Duke's death "lame". Oh, well. One fan even
said that, since I had named the episode after the title of one of the
songs in "The Transformers: The Movie", it was an insult to the song.
Message board post (MARK MOORE'S FLIPPED HIS LID!) by Mercenary:
Posted by Mercenary on December 09, 1999 at 18:42:15 in
209.179.148.138 :
OK, I, personally CAN understand fanfics and their reason for
continuing the story. I CANNOT understand changing the entire story!
He made Lana a lezbo!!! A frickin' LEZBO! He used to say she was bi, I
could live with that. But no...Episode 9 showed us she IS a lezbo
because she dumped Kevin and went with Kristin, Zelda, and STACY. I
say get rid of one of them(preferable Kristin who's character is bull
s*** anyway).
I can understand why Kevin was brought back...because he IS Captain N.
I don't approve of the way Mark brought him back though because he's
used the same way out before.
Also, Lana ASSUMING the title of Captain N?! That is completely BULL
S***. To agree with Chris' reason, i quote "according to the first
episode, the prophecy says, 'HE is Captian N, the GAME MASTER,'
meaning that Captain N is the name of a warrior who would arrive from
another dimension. Also, the prophecy said nothing about Mother Brain,
but that, 'He shall lead VideoLand to Victory' not 'Defeat the evil
leader, then be done with his destiny' end quote.
That my friends is a really good point!
So to recap:
1.Mark Moore is pervert who must live out his fantsies in a cartoon
because he doesn't get any in real life.
2.He should learn how to follow the STORY that was set up in the first
place and not b**** about it later when people say his stories are
bull.
3.He should not use the same way out over and over again(believe me
Mark, it gets boring)
4.Come up with something new when it comes to writing a story
because-Brain CHILD?-where did you get that one.
5.Also screw the "Don't use big name stuff because it would cost to
much if it was actually filmed" because with the way you write 'em,
Nintendo won't touch 'em with a 50' stick!
Message board post (episode#9 rating 0.8/10) by Hanichi:
Posted by Hanichi on December 09, 1999 at 22:02:29 in 24.30.60.232:
Alright you people out there who have read this bullshit that is more
about meaningless sex scenes and promotions of christianity than about
CN and the story with brain child....lets start shall we.
1.)Who the fuck other than a insane person(Mark Moore) would make a
nasty lesbian bitch Captain N.
2.)C'mon Mark we don't need to hear about baptizing or unnessary
religous discussion. It just clutters everything up.
3.) Kevin goes from 1st in order to 6th....why would his friends in
which Lana hasn't known as long as kevin...and never saved her life or
devoted much of thier time towards her and videoland be ahead of him.
4.)Lana/Zelda sex scene....If your really that horny Mark Moore go to
a bar and meet some women.
5.) congratulations! Lana is now completly a lesbo.
6.) Li Shiroshi a christian convert.....promoting
christianity....couldn't Mark have her explore the religon of her race
first(shinto, Buddahism)
7.)Kevin our hero is found alive looking like shit and being treated
just like that.
8.)Duke dies I don't give a fuck.
9.) I hope Mark doesn't do this to make Kevin CN 64.
That would suck. Because the N 64 is the worst system ever made. I say
Videoland should represent EVERY videogame after all it isn't
Nintendoland.
10.) Now I know I am stepping out on Limb for doimng this but here is
a personal statment to Mark.
"Ananta no Fakku"
The end of the school semester was approaching, and I wouldn't have
Internet access over Christmas break. I felt that a great way to start
off Captain N fan fiction in 2000 would be with pretty much a fresh
start in Season 8. So, Season 7 ended on Saturday, December 11, 1999,
the last day of the school semester, with episode 10, "Game Over". In
that episode, I had Samus defeat Brain Child, and I had a lot of
members leave the N Team, leaving only Lana, Samus, Mike, Rick,
Stacey, and Kevin, with Gameboy as a possibility and Mega Man as an
ally. The episode ended on an unsettling note. Some fans were pleased,
but others felt that the final battle was lame. They also didn't like
the fact that Lana, Zelda, and Kristen were, apparently, brought to
orgasms by the Goddesses of Hyrule.
This is the message that I posted to the board right after I put the
Season 7 finale up:
Posted by Mark Moore on December 11, 1999 at 17:41:52 in
209.26.200.20:
The last episode of Season 7 is up!
After you read it, please fill out the survey.
Then you can sign up for a Season 8 episode if you want.
I'm going on Christmas Break. I'll be back on, I think, January 4.
Have a Happy New Year (cuz that's all it'll be).
Mark
That was it. The nightmare of Season 7 was over. I went to the mall
with my mom, drove back to CFCC by myself, saved a bunch of songs from
Jem's Starlight Jukebox to floppy disks, went back to the mall to meet
my mom, and we drove home.
Message board post (episode10#) by Hanichi:
Posted by Hanichi on December 12, 1999 at 00:18:50 in 24.30.60.232:
Alright so Mark did straitin up and fly right...but the episode isn't
really so straight but just kinda..uhhhh. Lets Start.
1.)Religous preaching down-good point.
2.)Pretty good action and emotional setting-good point.
3.Cliffhanger-good point
4.However Captain N as N 64 doesn't make sense because thier *IS*
other systems that are equally as popular by this time. And besides it
was only all Nintendo because that was the only system worth showing.
5.NOW you have the godddeses as lesbians...I think that is dumb but
because I am a Interist(name given to 'Interi' shintoism...because it
is different from traditional Shinto in many ways.)
anyways it is dumb because the head Diety in my religon is the star
GODDESE Amatersu-OmiKami and no godesse would be a lesbian like that.
6.It would have been cool if like Lana and Kristen would have died on
the crosses and form a Jesus like figure for Videoland.
7.Pak uses the power glove-----"I love the power glove...it's so bad"
(Lucas Barton in The Wizard)
8. Still didn't right some of those wrongs.
Other crap
notice how under Mark Moore has Kevin's initials as "KKK"
Kev shouldn't be in 6th position because he is a hothead. The point is
that all of the other charcters suck compared to him.
NOTE to Moore: Season 8 should be more than some of the content of
season 7....Imagine a morning prayer show where all the females are
doing it. Not to thrilling or intelligent either. N should be N There
nothing wrong with the occasional prayer or relationships but it
should be cut to a minimal because it takes out from the actual story.
As well zelda's religon seems similar to Interism I will set up a
link.
Message board post (Episode 9 & 10 Review and a Season 7 Overall
review) by Eric42:
Posted by Eric42 on December 12, 1999 at 03:17:35 in 207.65.110.40:
Oh man, first off, my net connection has been really faulty for past
couple days so I have NOT been on as much as I would like to have
been. Plus, I just got Xenogears, the one Squaresoft RPG I missed, so
I have been somewhat playing on it. Anyways, I've skimmed through
"Episode 10" and I want to comment on a few things real quick.
* Episode 9:
First, Kevin returns from the dead! Ugh! And pitifully, too. But
everyone knows that.
Duke's death. (sarcasm) Gee, I guess Kevin handled that well, didn't
he? (/sarcasm) Come on, Kevin had a connect to Duke just like any
normal Teenager. I think Kevin would have done more than he did....
Geez...
Lana's pissy attitude. If I was Kevin (aka The Chosen One) and Lana
talked to me that way and called herself "Captain N", I would have
left that place quicker than Mark could write a piss-poor lemon (and
that's quick!). Plus, Lana would never act like that. I could see Lana
with a demanding attutude, but not like that.
* Episode 10:
Again, Mark writes a story where someone kills someone by just
"shooting" at them. Doesn't Samus kill this "Mega-Villian" mightly
easy? And I qoute: "Samus fired at Brain Child a few more times and
killed it." Gee, anti-clamatic. (sarcasm) Gee, I would never have
expected that from Mark. (/sarcasm)
"Zelda, Lana, and Kristen felt tingling between their legs. They
moaned in pleasure. Their bodies shook. Soon, the three of them
climaxed and had the most powerful orgasms of their lives. Their
bodies spasmed with pleasure. Streams of *** ran down their legs." -
MEGA-UGH. Again with the pornographic scenes. WHY MARK WHY? Do you
really get off writing this? But even if you really had to put this
crap in the stories, couldn't you write the scenes better? Poorly
written, like the rest of the story and makes even less sense to the
plot and story of "Season 7".
Hmmm... The ending has the orginal members leaving. Why not go ahead
and have Kevin leave, Mark? Then you could have no one but the
lesiban's in the "Mark Moore N-Team". THEN what you should have done
was introduced yourself and show "us" why you insist on calling them
BI. Uhoh... you know what? I just thought of something, I might
accidently give him some ideas! I better watch out.
* Season 7 Overall
Mark Moore, how do you sleep at night? You are a sick, twisted, and
demented "man". Season 7 was completely stupid and pointless to the
concept that you had orginally led down for it. Brain Child had barely
any involvement in the stories that I had actually completely read and
what did happen was pointless.
Also, why the long "rants" by some of the characters in the stories? I
keep my resolution at a HIGH resolution and these long "paragraphs"
still remained HUGE. Also, in Episode 9, "The final death toll of the
war stands at 245,849,266,558,047 people." <- Don't you think that's
kinda VAUGE? Pretty much exact, huh? Heck, the US doesn't even known
the EXACT numbers they lost in most of it's wars, but you seem to have
this ammount down to the exact one....
Season 7 sucks. What will Season 8 become? If there are people that
will actually write for him, I expect Mark to edit in some sexual
scenes, not unlike the one I quoted from Episode 9. I think everyone
should be aware of that, btw. Mark edits ANY story submitted to him
and really does BAD things with it. I've seen originals of some of the
"fan"-written episodes of this crap. I think Mark should rename the
project to "Mark-written Episodes". If he doesn't get that many people
to write for him, I see "Season 8" being completely wrote by him.
Mark, you are in collage, try taking a couple English classes. If you
really want to learn to write better, take some Journalism classes.
Heck, if you want to know how sex is done properly, watch some REAL
porn, for crying out loud. Btw, did I say your stories suck?
This is Eric42, signing out.
Message board response post by Stryker:
Posted by Stryker on December 12, 1999 at 04:48:47 in 152.163.195.178
:
In Reply to: Episode 9 & 10 Review and a Season 7 Overall review
posted by Eric42 on December 12, 1999 at 03:17:35:
Finally, season 7 is over!!! After reading the whole damn thing, I
havta throw my 2 cents in:
Duke's Death: What the hell?!!? He licks Kevin's hand (was it his
hand?) and then just dies? Come on! And then, Kevin barely cares! Read
the next line! Dr. Right askes him what to do with the body, and Kevin
tells him to burn it! Like Eric said, they had a connection, and
that's just not how something like the can end.
Lana as CN: She sucks. Wait... let me rephrase that... doen't wanna
give Mark any ideas. Mark has completely destroyed her character (and
Zelda's). Didn't he say somewhere he wanted to give her an edge or
something? Yeah, whenever I give a character an edge, I also make them
a lesbian (or, sorry, I mean bisexual) and make them have sex with a
bunch of other lesbians. Also, when she demoted Kevin to 6th place, I
don't think I was the only one wanting Kevin to leave it. Kev
shouldn't take this crap. He is the true Captain N.
Brain Child's Death & Climax of Season 7: Bullshit. Firstoff, sure
there was more action than usual, but for a climax to a full season
that was supposed to be about somesort of Videoland Armegeddon (not an
excuse to turn everyone into a lesbian), just a few bullets to kill BC
ain't gonna cut it. Not enough action!
The Goddesess: Here, I'm hopin' those 3 are gonna die finally, and out
of nowhere, the goddesess have sex with them!! Where the hell did that
come from?!?!!? At least there used to be some sort of warning,
letting use know a retarded porn scene was comming up!
Original Members Leaving: Bullshit. They wouldn't leave the team. But,
since this is now Captain Lesbian, I'm surprised Kevin didn't leave.
He should have left with Mike & Rick and joined up with Pak or
something. No, wait, that would be too cool, and anyways, Mark would
probably them make them all gay.
Other Stuff: Kevin's Initials are KKK?!!?!? I noticed this when he
"established" Kev's middle name right away, and was deeply offended.
His middle name is Christopher, which is spelled with a C, and he went
out of his way to change it to a K... gee... I wonder..... Also, Pak
left like a chicken. Yeah right! He should have killed Lana or
something. Pak is too much of a bad ass (or was) to be leaving like
that.
Well, that's all I gotta say for now.
-Stryker
Now, I'll try to list the problems with Season 7:
1) Lack of writers.
2) Loss of material due to hard drive crash.
3) Filler.
4) Spelling errors due to not enough time to check for them.
5) A self-imposed deadline for the season finale.
However, all of those things considered, I believe that I did a decent
job with Season 7. I wrote most of the season by myself, though I did
use ideas contributed by Matt, Mandi, and Ellen. I lost a lot of fans,
but I wrote 10 episodes that, slowly, changed the situation in the
series, perhaps even moreso than "Changes", but perhaps not.
The one negative thing that came out of Season 7 was the creation of
factions within the Captain N fandom. These were Captain N "purists"
that believed that I had "perversed", "defiled", and "lesbianized"
Captain N. They believed that, since Captain N was a children's
cartoon, all fan fiction based on Captain N had to be written at a
child's level - no swearing, no nudity, no death, no homosexuality, no
sexual behavior, no controversial topics, etc.
Season 7 led to the formation of a website that would become a very
big problem for the Captain N fandom later on. I'll get to it later.
Now, when Season 7 started, I had put a disclaimer on the Season 7
page on my site:
"This season is pretty dark, as it deals with a major war. Sometimes
the mood is depressing. The episodes are longer (about 30K / 30
minutes), as if they are being shown on a premium channel. This was
Mandi Ohlin's idea. A word of caution: There is plenty of cussing and
a few sexual situations. If you read it and get in trouble, it ain't
my fault."
I felt that I had done my part. Did this satisfy the fans? Nope. They
argued that most people don't read the info that I post regarding the
fanfics. So, the fans were essentially telling me that I shouldn't
write scenes in my fanfics that couldn't have been done on the TV
series, because the fans didn't take the time to read the warnings.
Season 7 consisted of 2 writers (including myself) writing 10
episodes. The originally-planned 16 episodes were reduced to only 10
episodes. Still, I considered Season 7 to be a success.
Season 7 authors: Matt Slater, Mark Moore.
I went on Christmas break. 2000 would be the beginning of a "new
millennium" (ha!) and new, light-hearted Captain N stories in Season
8.