BVM confirms events are about to begin NOW
T. R.
Dan Millar,
You quoted:
"I am Mary Immaculate, the Co-redemptrix."
First of all, nowhere in the Bible is Mary refered to as a
"Co-Redemptrix" She gave birth to Jesus, the Son of GOD, and that was
and is a part of her reward, besides eternal life. The Concept of
Co-Redemptix is a totally Catholic notion and totally NOT SUPPORTED by
the Bible.
Secondly you quote this:
"if you really pray hard and offer sacrifices"
Jesus was the LAST sacrifice, where in the New Testament does it say we
should continue the sacrifices ?
Sorry but I dont buy it.
Jean Guernon
Come on Hook,
How would that be in reality? Do you think Bob Dylan passed him a neurotoxin
while shaking his hand? (U know - with all they say about arms dealing
investments or junk connections)... BTW, is HOOK about fish?
Don't mind me, it's just been a long (hard day's) night... You know the
song... I'm soo tired, I haven't slept a wink... The curse of Sir Walter
Raleigh!
J.
Hook wrote:
> Hey Dan,
>
> Dr. Turdi has a window open for this period, the brain dead's gave a
> specific date for popes death, and along with yours, I think old JP is up
> against it this Oct.
>
> Maybe somebody up there says it payback time for the inquisition!!! Or
> getting in Bed with the Nazi's in WW twice. However I will refrain from
> marching down to the federal building and mooning the IRS.
>
> My all time favorite bumper sticker:
>
> "When the Rapture comes, can i have your car?"
>
> In Brotherly Love
> Hook
>
> #
> >"I give you one indication that the time is ripe. When you see, when
> >you
> >hear, when you feel the REVOLUTION IN ROME, when you see the Holy
> >Father
> >fleeing, seeking a refuge in another land, know that the time is
> >ripe."
> > (Jesus, September 14, 1976)
> >
> >--A quote from the Church-condemned Bayside messages, concerning the
> >timing of the Warning.
> >
> >As you may recall from the e-mails I sent to you, I predicted the
> >following as occurring for the end of September, and first part of
> >October;
> >
> >
> >"1. Rebellion in Rome: The Antichrist’s forces within the Vatican,
> >including many Cardinals and Bishops will plot an assassination/coup
> >attempt against the Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, but he will
> >probably escape and apparently find exile in another nation (France,
> >or possibly even Russia). They will install the False Prophet antipope
> >(probably Cardinal Carlo Martini) on the throne of St. Peter. (Will
> >just precede Event #’s 2 and 4 below, thus probably before October 2,
> >1997.)
>
> This would fit Turis window of dramitic happenings!!!
>
> >
> >2. Maitreya’s ‘Day of Declaration’: This message from the Antichrist
> >will come to you whether you are awake or asleep, whether you are
> >listening to your radios and TV’s or not. He will most likely fill you
> >with feelings of peace and inexpressible joy as you hear his message.
> >Do not listen to it! (Any time between now and October 11, 1997-Must
> >precede Rapture/Judgment Day)
>
> >3. Major earthquakes in three separate continents simultaneously:
> >This is a questionable prediction. Possible flooding attendant with
> >these as well, creating havoc for those living along the coastlines.
> >(Probably occurs as part of the Warning; by October 13, 1997 at the
> >latest)
> >
> >4. ‘The Warning’: (Any time between now and October 2nd)
> >
> >5. ‘End of Church Age’: (October 1, 1997) If true, then at the very
> >least, this implies that the ‘Age of Mercy’, insofar as through the
> >sacraments of reconciliation and confession via the Church, will end.
> >However, remember that this comes by way of only one alleged
> >visionary/locutionist. (via Ilori)
> >
> >6. The first ‘Day of the Lord’: (October 2, 1997): Rosh HaShanah,
> >first day of Jewish New Year, 5758. According to Ola Ilori, this is
> >when the Holy Spirit will inspire believers around the world to pray
> >to God to avert the coming wrath. (via Ilori)
> >
> >7. One or Three Red Crosses in the Sky (The First Miracle): This is
> >a questionable prediction. ( If true, then look for it to occur either
> >just before the Warning, and/or between October 1st and 11th)
> >
> >8. The Rapture: (October 11, 1997) Most, if not all children under
> >the ‘age of reason’ will be taken along with all those in a state of
> >grace with the Lord, and who have the Holy Spirit within. (via Ilori)
> >
> >9. First (Trumpet) Judgment Day: ( Probably to begin October 11th;
> >contingent upon whether mankind repents or not.) If it does occur,
> >then at least two billion people will be killed by these Judgments,
> >when all Hell literally breaks loose upon our world. (Revelation 8 &
> >9)
>
> World is overpopulated already, heck hope he goes for 3 Billion.
>
> >
> >10. 80th Anniversary of the ’Miracle of the Sun’ in Fatima, Portugal:
> >(October 13, 1997) This is not a coincidence, folks. Depending on
> >whether humanity repents before October 11th or not, this may or may
> >not prove to be the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Pray that
> >it is. According to some current rumours, it will be on this date that
> >Americans will be urged to pray to God to spare their nation from
> >annihilation from God's wrath, but this is uncorroborated as of this
> >point.
> >
> >11. Final Day of the Feast of Tabernacles (October 23, 1997) Very
> >small possibility that this will be the beginning of the Seventh
> >Sabbath Millenium. Same conditions as #10 above.
> >
> >(End of self-quote from 'The Final Equinox-2000')
> >
> >
> >What is about to take place in Rome is as necessary as it is imminent.
> >The Mystery that is Babylon is also the mystery behind the Third
> >Secret of Fatima, and explained previously at La Salette.
> >
> >By following the instructions of Our Lady above, we might be able to
> >at least mitigate these series of events that are NOW bearing down
> >upon the Church, Israel, and thus ourselves, if not delay them. If we
> >don't take it upon ourselves to fulfill Her wishes, as well as urge
> >others to do so immediately, then who will?
> >
> >Among other things, you will read about how to prepare yourselves
> >spiritually and physically (to at least some minimal degree) for the
> >Antichrist Maitreya's 'Day of Declaration', and the 'Warning'. Whether
> >their occurrence depends on certain events in Rome to happen first or
> >not, I don't know, but they would seem to be next in line to happen,
> >most probably within the next week at the latest, from the sound of
> >things. (See 'Epilogue-Chapter 20' for a summary of these events.)
> >
> >But until they happen, I will do my best to follow the Blessed
> >Mother's advice below to a 'T', and pray for the best outcome. We
> >won't know the full value of our prayers, penances, fasts and
> >sacrifices until we reach Heaven, but I believe that they really can
> >suspend natural laws, events, as well as averting God's wrath from
> >ourselves and others. Miracles rarely occur without them, and I
> >believe and trust in miracles just as much as I do in God's
> >neverending Grace, Love and Mercy.
> >
> >In case events DO escalate out of control in the next few days, and we
> >are thus unable to contact each other, I just want you to know that
> >all of you will be in my prayers along with our Holy Father, and that
> >Jesus and Mary will keep you and yours firmly and safely in their
> >United Hearts, now and forevermore.
> >
> >May His Divine Mercy be with us all,
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >P.S. I hope the Catholics among you made a good confession recently as
> >I advised you; your time to do so *may* be running out rapidly.
> >
> >
Dan Millar
Greetings,
I received the following Marian message on Sunday evening from Dr.
William Zambrano, who in turn received it from Armando Munera of
Colombia.
It consists of the Blessed Virgin Mary basically confirming that the
events that I outlined to occur in September and October are now about
to begin, within a matter of days;
"On September 10, the following message was received in the Ave
Maria House. Before this one, another one was received from Our
Lord Jesus, but that one did not come out in the recording.";
(Message)
"I am Mary Immaculate, the Co-redemptrix. Our Lord God wanted me
to come to you, as a last resort, to save as many souls as we can
before the events My Son described to you start to happen. But be
aware that this is just a matter of days. My Divine Son has told
you that this is imminent. I tell you the same, as He commands me
to. I repeat what He has just said. It is now in the spiritual
and will later be in the physical, the great and terrible things
that will happen in the Church, which I foretold in the name of My
Divine Son, in many apparitions, but especially in La Salette and
Fatima.
I urge you to follow me unconditionally, without regard for
sacrifice or self denial. Do not worry about details. Learn to
deny yourselves. It will be immediate, it will be now. I need you
to follow me. We have put in our son R...'s heart the pain of the
warning, of the imminent persecution and exile of your Holy Pope,
my beloved son John Paul II.
It breaks my heart to see his suffering, his sacrifice, the way he
is persecuted. Oh! if any of you would just know what a Mother's
heart feels to see my child, my beloved, apparently defeated,
persecuted, suffering all kinds of insults and ridicule. I assure
you the only pain I've felt greater than this was the Passion of
My Divine Son, my Beloved Jesus, when they took Him from my tender
loving hands to put Him through such torture.
In your spiritual way, I've let you follow feel sometimes my
suffering at the foot of the cross, crying bitterly each and every
moment of the passion of my Jesus. Because of what you have
already learned to suffer, I want you to try to understand what I
am suffering for my son John Paul, my beloved son, the work of my
hands, because the Creator put him in my hands and allowed me to
mold him, as I was inspired by His Holy Spirit. It was My Divine
Spouse, through my hands who shaped John Paul.
Now your evil world wants to take him away from me, as it took my
Jesus... and I will have to allow it once more, in spite of the
almost infinite power the Lord has given me. I will have to
abstain from using that power and I will have to cry once more at
the foot of the cross of my son John Paul. I will cry. I will
seek consolation, very difficult, but possible, in the resurrection
of my son John Paul and in the resurrection of my Church, just as
it was with the resurrection of my Son Jesus.
But I want you as my apostles. I want holy disciples and holy
women to walk with me to the passion of my Pope, the gift of God
for all of you in these terrible times, by the intercession of my
Immaculate Heart.
Love him, keep him in your prayers, engrave him in your minds and
hearts, suffer and make reparation for him, for my John Paul.
My beloved child, I know I have to cry for your sacrifice, but I
can't stop from crying even now. Oh, if only you knew how I feel,
my son, when I see the way your hands tremble, when I see your
beloved face wrinkled - more by suffering than by age. Oh! if you
could know, my child, how my Immaculate Heart breaks when I see
you walk with shoulders bent and apparently defeated in the cynical
and unfeeling eyes of the world.
But you are not defeated. Just like my Son Jesus, your sacrifice,
your apparent defeat, will be your biggest victory. You will
Glorify the Father with your tears and your blood. Walk on, my
son. Take your cross and start your short but difficult climb to
calvary. And the rest of you, go with him. You will not be with
him physically, but if you really want to, if you really pray hard
and offer sacrifices, I will grant your soul the grace to go up
with him and see his passion and his sacrifice.
There is nothing left to do but pray and make reparation. Continue
with your physical preparations, but concentrate every day on
prayer, reparation, fasting and penitence. Be flooded with the
Father's love, with My Son's love, with the love of My Divine
Spouse, with the love of My Immaculate Heart, with the love of my
angels and my saints, with the love of my victim souls. Be full of
the love of my Church in all its plenitude, even when you see it
submerged in crisis.
I don't want to ask anything else from you, but those that I have
already asked and I repeat: prayer, denial of yourselves,
sacrifice, penitence, reparation, mortification, love, love, love.
I Bless you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit,
Amen."
(End of Marian Message)
I'm glad that I was able to send you my essay in time, so that you
would know through it that these events were inevitable as occurring
very soon, and so could take the appropriate measures to prepare for
them, spiritually as well as physically, since it is now almost too
late for either. I just hope that you were able to pass off the vital
information to others while you had the chance.
As for what we can expect after the events in Rome;
"I give you one indication that the time is ripe. When you see, when
you
hear, when you feel the REVOLUTION IN ROME, when you see the Holy
Father
fleeing, seeking a refuge in another land, know that the time is
ripe."
(Jesus, September 14, 1976)
--A quote from the Church-condemned Bayside messages, concerning the
timing of the Warning.
As you may recall from the e-mails I sent to you, I predicted the
following as occurring for the end of September, and first part of
October;
"1. Rebellion in Rome: The Antichrist’s forces within the Vatican,
including many Cardinals and Bishops will plot an assassination/coup
attempt against the Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, but he will
probably escape and apparently find exile in another nation (France,
or possibly even Russia). They will install the False Prophet antipope
(probably Cardinal Carlo Martini) on the throne of St. Peter. (Will
just precede Event #’s 2 and 4 below, thus probably before October 2,
1997.)
2. Maitreya’s ‘Day of Declaration’: This message from the Antichrist
10. 80th Anniversary of the ’Miracle of the Sun’ in Fatima, Portugal:
Sandy Kear
In article <3430d...@hades.ndirect.co.uk>, lem...@pembrokeshire.co.uk wrote:
>
>And should any or all of this fail to come true, what will that say
>about its various sources - including the alleged Marian prediction?
What I'd like to know is how the death of pope John Paul II would in any way
constitute the "loss" of a son, since Mary is ostensibly in Heaven?! Wouldn't
she be far more likely to say that the pope would go "home" to her after
suffering at the hands of man? This stuff implies that John Paul won't quite
make it there, which is actually something of an indictment against the
papacy.
I'm kind of surprised that this particular Marian apparition is getting any
credence among Catholics, to tell the truth.
Sandy
Hook
From: Hook <Geo...@mail.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:16:05 -0400
There was a Pope who was greatly loved by all of his followers, a man who
led with gentleness, faith and wisdom. His passing was grieved by the
entire world, Catholic or not. As the Pope approached the gates of heaven,
it was Saint Peter who greeted him in a firm embrace.
"Welcome your holiness, your dedication and unselfishness in serving your
fellow man during your life has earned you great stature in heaven. You may
pass through the gates without delay and are granted free access to all
parts of heaven. You are also granted an open door policy and may at your
own discretion meet with any heavenly leader, including the Father without
prior appointment.
Is there anything which your holiness desires?"
"Well, yes," the Pope replied. "I have often pondered some of the
mysteries which have puzzled and confounded theologians through the ages.
Are there, perhaps, any transcripts which recorded the actual conversations
between God and the prophets of old? I would love to see what was actually
said, without the dimming of memories over time."
Saint Peter immediately ushered the Pope to the heavenly library and
explained how to retrieve the various documents. The Pope was thrilled and
settled down to review the history of man's relationship with God.
Two years later, a scream of anguish pierced the stacks of the library.
Immediately several of the Saints and Angels came running. There they
found the Pope pointing to a single word on a parchment, repeating over and
over...
"There's an 'R', there's an 'R' -- it's celibrate, not celibate!
Dekin Blue
Dan Millar wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I received the following Marian message on Sunday evening from Dr.
> William Zambrano, who in turn received it from Armando Munera of
> Colombia.
>
> It consists of the Blessed Virgin Mary basically confirming that the
> events that I outlined to occur in September and October are now about
> to begin, within a matter of days;
SNIP!
Dan,
I hope you have a Nomex suit...
The whole diatribe smacks of catholic hogwash. No other religion places
so much credence into one person that being the "Virgin" Mary. Like
MRE's there is more than one false statement there. Most non-catholics
look at disdain as to how the wide world of catholics ketows to this
figment of worship. Not to mention the recent trial that went on in
Dallas with a priest that was getting his kicks with altar boys. Not an
isolated incident and we all know that. Where was the virgin mother
then? Or where was the blessed virgin when the catholics were killing
off people in the name of God? Forcing indians et al into involuntary
servitude to build their forts and missions?
I hope you're right and I hope you're wrong. I think the latter is the
answer.
Deke
Peter Lemesurier
mil...@max-net.com (Dan Millar) wrote:
>Greetings,
>(End of Marian Message)
>Dan
And should any or all of this fail to come true, what will that say
about its various sources - including the alleged Marian prediction?
--
Peter Lemesurier
Hook
Hey Dan,
Dr. Turdi has a window open for this period, the brain dead's gave a
specific date for popes death, and along with yours, I think old JP is up
against it this Oct.
Maybe somebody up there says it payback time for the inquisition!!! Or
getting in Bed with the Nazi's in WW twice. However I will refrain from
marching down to the federal building and mooning the IRS.
My all time favorite bumper sticker:
"When the Rapture comes, can i have your car?"
In Brotherly Love
Hook
#
>"I give you one indication that the time is ripe. When you see, when
>you
>hear, when you feel the REVOLUTION IN ROME, when you see the Holy
>Father
>fleeing, seeking a refuge in another land, know that the time is
>ripe."
> (Jesus, September 14, 1976)
>
>--A quote from the Church-condemned Bayside messages, concerning the
>timing of the Warning.
>
>As you may recall from the e-mails I sent to you, I predicted the
>following as occurring for the end of September, and first part of
>October;
>
>
>"1. Rebellion in Rome: The Antichrist’s forces within the Vatican,
>including many Cardinals and Bishops will plot an assassination/coup
>attempt against the Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, but he will
>probably escape and apparently find exile in another nation (France,
>or possibly even Russia). They will install the False Prophet antipope
>(probably Cardinal Carlo Martini) on the throne of St. Peter. (Will
>just precede Event #’s 2 and 4 below, thus probably before October 2,
>1997.)
This would fit Turis window of dramitic happenings!!!
>
World is overpopulated already, heck hope he goes for 3 Billion.
>
Jean Guernon
I don't really think that the mother of Jesus comes back from the deads but the
pain those good people describe is very real... Of course all this depends upon
the veracity of the imminence of the actual situation... Not many very powereful
people are behind this mirror everyone sees everyday... And being behind it
doesn't necessarily warrant any possibility for interaction in the course of the
fate of the world...
This neurotoxin nobody knows about is really a bitch... First it enter your
body... A tiny amount is sufficient... Only mark ever, the size of the pin of a
needle... Then for a definite amount of time (between 2 and 3 weeks I don't know
the exact number of days but it's exact... I'd have to see how long it took
between the hand shaking of René Levesque and it's death to know for sure... he
was too honest... he was going to speak about the special powers high ranking
politicians have... amongst other things... but back at the description:) the
excruciating pain on site goes deeper and deeeper in the body... Although the
site is still painful the pain crawls up the forearms, slowly, day by day and
then the arm... and then the shoulder... and then and goes inside... It attacks
all the sensor neuron so the motor neuron are not affected... neurologists don't
see anything... then it hits the spinal chord... that's when most die of an
heart attack (a so called natural death... the rest from unnamable pain... even
legist doctors don't see the difference... but, if you've been "lucky" enough to
have been warned in advance, and if you sucked most of the poison out, you'll
just be completely out for a week or so... after that, no more beta waves! Your
welll done... Because of the damage to the sensitive cells, your whole body on
the side of the attack will be in unnamable pain for decades to come. And it
will be the exact half, as if cut by a razor blade, that will hurt... every
organ will hurt... Nothing is thinkable because of this... But... after 1 to two
decades it becomes more tolerable... Don't think that until then you'll get any
relief from doctors! or whatever...
But these things are usually given in only very few cases to very high
dignitaries... very few people know about these... So don't worry. I say all
that for the ones who may really know what's going on down there... All those
quatrains about the cardinals and the archbishops plotting... And all this
sudden outburst of doom and gloom predictions about JP... We may be able to sort
it out before it happens... who knows... For once...
But I doubt it.
J.
John P. Boatwright
Dan Millar wrote:
> Greetings,
Hello,
> I received the following Marian message on Sunday evening from Dr.
> William Zambrano, who in turn received it from Armando Munera of
> Colombia.
How did you receive it? Telephone, letter, newspaper clippings,
usenet, email, ect...????
> It consists of the Blessed Virgin Mary basically confirming that the
> events that I outlined to occur in September and October are now about
> to begin, within a matter of days;
Well, I'm going to be blunt here Dan, there's NO
prophecy in the bible to back up Mary giving messages
in the "end times".
Or do you have one to back it up?
I've noticed a large number of "Mary said" messages lately, one
not long ago said that LAST JUNE (middle of the month) that
the sun would brighten extremely and many would then head
to church...
John Luezon posted that message AND IT WAS WRONG (of course).
Why?
Why did John post such a message??? Who knows.
He's also posted messages where he said "Jesus requests
statues of saints be put back in churches". This is bunk,
since Jesus knows that STATUES ARE ROCKS, they have NO LIFE,
they are simply IDOLS (if anyone prays to them or puts their
hopes in them). God is the one to pray to, not a rock. JESUS
KNOWS THIS AND WOULD NEVER SAY TO PRAY TO A ROCK.
(but the devil would say to pray to a rock)
So what's John Luezon up to? Who knows.
I'd like to FOR ONCE see some scripture backing up this
"Mary says" stuff. Where's the prophecy that says the
mother of Jesus would forgive sins and give messages to
the world???
Well?
> "On September 10, the following message was received in the Ave
> Maria House. Before this one, another one was received from Our
> Lord Jesus, but that one did not come out in the recording.";
Odd, I remember quite a few verses where Jesus will show up
when no one expects. And Jesus himself DID NOT say he'd be
giving recorded interviews prior to showing up.
> (Message)
> "I am Mary Immaculate, the Co-redemptrix.
This is RETARDED Dan, think about it. Jesus NEVER ONCE
mentioned asking his mother for forgiveness.
Isaiah 53 specifically details Jesus dying for the sins
of the world... NOTHING WAS MENTIONED ABOUT HIS MOTHER
(other than she'd give birth to Jesus).
> Our Lord God wanted me
> to come to you, as a last resort, to save as many souls as we can
> before the events My Son described to you start to happen. But be
> aware that this is just a matter of days. My Divine Son has told
> you that this is imminent. I tell you the same, as He commands me
> to. I repeat what He has just said. It is now in the spiritual
> and will later be in the physical, the great and terrible things
> that will happen in the Church, which I foretold in the name of My
> Divine Son, in many apparitions, but especially in La Salette and
> Fatima.
Hmmm... and just last June the sun exploded in intense heat,
(or) God changed his mind and now expects rock worship, (or)
Mary now forgives sins, (or) Jesus talks prior to showing up
unexpectedly (though now it's expected) since God changed his
mind again ...
Odd, NONE OF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
Doesn't anyone read the bible anymore???
> I urge you to follow me unconditionally, without regard for
> sacrifice or self denial.
Get a brain LOSER, I am to ONLY ask Jesus to forgive my sins,
Mary is Jesus's mother and that's all. Heck, Joseph was Jesus's
father, where's his "follow me unconditionally" statements??
eh??
What about Jesus's bother James, where's his "follow me
unconditionally" statements???
What about Peter (upon this rock I build my church), where's
his "follow me unconditionally" statements???
eh??
It's all bunk, and you know it.
Mary is ONLY Jesus's mother, nothing more.
> Do not worry about details. Learn to deny yourselves.
What???
Get a grip.
The idea is to ASK JESUS TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS, not follow
any flake claiming to know some "CO-REDEMPTRIX"...
ha ha ha...
Where do these guys come from anyway?
> It will be immediate, it will be now. I need you
> to follow me.
Nah.
I'll follow Jesus, it's fairly easy. Most all the
stuff he said is right there IN THE NEW TESTAMENT,
all you have to do is:
* READ IT
* BELIEVE IT
* ASK JESUS TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS
* THANK GOD FOR SENDING JESUS
Pretty simple.
No special "CO-REDEMPTRIX" garbage to "oh, what's
she saying now... last month she was wrong... what
gives... is the guy getting a clear signal now?..."
> We have put in our son R...'s heart the pain of the
> warning, of the imminent persecution and exile of your Holy Pope,
> my beloved son John Paul II.
eh?
Uhm.... The pope believes he's God, therefore Mary would
be his daughter...
Odd...
Both can't figure out the SIMPLE TRUTH of it:
* The pope is just another man.
* Mary is Jesus's mother, not the pope's.
* Neither Mary nor the pope are God.
> It breaks my heart to see his suffering, his sacrifice, the way he
> is persecuted.
Huh???
The pope lives in relative style, lots of income,
real estate holdings, eats fairly descent food, etc...
A far cry from Jesus, and quite a far cry from say
early Christians, or Jews, or Blacks, or ect...
I really doubt the pope has any problem with anyone
"persecuting" him.
Sounds like a HUGE LIE throughout this entire post.
What's with trying to DRUM UP sympathy for the pope
when NONE IS NEEDED??? Are you trying to AGAIN set
the pope up as God???
ha ha ha...
The pope is DUST compared to God, just like all other
men.
God is the one who holds all the cards and he'll only
accept Jesus's forgiving of your sins prior to judgement.
That's the ENTIRE TRUTH of it.
> Oh! if any of you would just know what a Mother's
> heart feels to see my child, my beloved, apparently defeated,
> persecuted, suffering all kinds of insults and ridicule.
What???
Are you trying to get the pope WORSHIPPED as God AGAIN???
ha ha ha...
I could tell.
> I assure
> you the only pain I've felt greater than this was the Passion of
> My Divine Son, my Beloved Jesus, when they took Him from my tender
> loving hands to put Him through such torture.
Odd.
"Passion of My Divine Son" <<< what is this???
> In your spiritual way, I've let you follow feel sometimes my
> suffering at the foot of the cross, crying bitterly each and every
> moment of the passion of my Jesus.
Grow up clod.
Jesus raised from the dead LONG AGO.
He paid the price, that suffering is OVER, there's only
happiness and joy now, remember??? Remember the verse
about angels rejoicing over one sinner who repents???
eh???
> Because of what you have
> already learned to suffer, I want you to try to understand what I
> am suffering for my son John Paul, my beloved son, the work of my
> hands, because the Creator put him in my hands and allowed me to
> mold him, as I was inspired by His Holy Spirit. It was My Divine
> Spouse, through my hands who shaped John Paul.
ha ha ha...
Gosh, now Mary is supposed to be "becoming God" eh???
Mary is forming the pope as "the work of her hands"???
ha ha ha...
That's pretty standard fair for a RAMBLING DISCOURSE, yet
if it's true, then it's fairly clear that the DEVIL is
molding the pope in his hands through a "marian apparition".
Take your pick, either:
1. The above is a RAMBLING DISCOURSE (or)
2. The pope is being controlled by the devil
I think #1 is correct (and that the pope is just a man).
> Now your evil world wants to take him away from me, as it took my
> Jesus... and I will have to allow it once more, in spite of the
> almost infinite power the Lord has given me.
ha ha ha...
Mary has infinite power now???
ha ha ha...
What a boron.
> I will have to
> abstain from using that power and I will have to cry once more at
> the foot of the cross of my son John Paul.
ha ha ha...
Then if you have infinite power and have to abstain, then
you really have NO POWER right???
ha ha ha...
What a pile.
> I will cry. I will
> seek consolation, very difficult, but possible, in the resurrection
> of my son John Paul
What???
The pope is going to raised from the dead???
ha ha ha...
So now the pope is Jesus???
What a tweeker.
> and in the resurrection of my Church, just as
> it was with the resurrection of my Son Jesus.
> But I want you as my apostles. I want holy disciples and holy
> women to walk with me to the passion of my Pope, the gift of God
> for all of you in these terrible times, by the intercession of my
> Immaculate Heart.
This is pure GARBAGE.
NONE OF THIS IS BASED IN THE SCRIPTURES... NONE OF IT.
What's this "Immaculate Heart" crap???
eh?
Is this "heart" some kind of "please HEART, forgive my sins..."???
This is the most absurd GARBAGE I've ever seen.
Again, NONE OF IT IS BASED IN SCRIPTURE.
> Love him, keep him in your prayers, engrave him in your minds and
> hearts, suffer and make reparation for him, for my John Paul.
Blow off bozo.
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We are to WORSHIP GOD, and ASK JESUS TO FORGIVE OUR SINS.
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There is NO COMMAND to worship a pope.
Again, the pope is JUST A MAN and he'll die in his sins
if he doesn't ask JESUS to forgive him.
Mary has NOTHING to do with it (and YOU KNOW IT).
> My beloved child, I know I have to cry for your sacrifice, but I
> can't stop from crying even now. Oh, if only you knew how I feel,
> my son, when I see the way your hands tremble, when I see your
> beloved face wrinkled - more by suffering than by age. Oh! if you
> could know, my child, how my Immaculate Heart breaks when I see
> you walk with shoulders bent and apparently defeated in the cynical
> and unfeeling eyes of the world.
What a whiner.
> But you are not defeated. Just like my Son Jesus, your sacrifice,
> your apparent defeat, will be your biggest victory. You will
> Glorify the Father with your tears and your blood. Walk on, my
> son. Take your cross and start your short but difficult climb to
> calvary. And the rest of you, go with him. You will not be with
> him physically, but if you really want to, if you really pray hard
> and offer sacrifices, I will grant your soul the grace to go up
> with him and see his passion and his sacrifice.
More rambling.
> There is nothing left to do but pray and make reparation. Continue
> with your physical preparations, but concentrate every day on
> prayer, reparation, fasting and penitence. Be flooded with the
> Father's love, with My Son's love, with the love of My Divine
> Spouse, with the love of My Immaculate Heart, with the love of my
> angels and my saints, with the love of my victim souls. Be full of
> the love of my Church in all its plenitude, even when you see it
> submerged in crisis.
What are you talking about???
Best bet is that you're drunk and need to sober up a bit.
> I don't want to ask anything else from you, but those that I have
> already asked and I repeat: prayer, denial of yourselves,
> sacrifice, penitence, reparation, mortification, love, love, love.
Sheeze, where's Jesus eh???
Where's that asking JESUS to forgive sins stuff??
eh???
Where's BELIEF in what Jesus said???
> I Bless you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit,
> Amen."
ha ha ha...
And you say Mary is infinitely powerful and is somehow
the "CO-REDEMPTRIX"...
ha ha ha...
Keep your blessing.
And take a look at:
Ro 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning
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the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed
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for ever. Amen.
Ya, see that?? It says specifically that Jesus is OVER ALL.
There is NO CO-REDEMPTRIX.
You're pushing a LIE and will most probably endure all those
plauges given in revelation.
> (End of Marian Message)
Let's hope so.
> I'm glad that I was able to send you my essay in time, so that you
> would know through it that these events were inevitable as occurring
> very soon, and so could take the appropriate measures to prepare for
> them, spiritually as well as physically, since it is now almost too
> late for either. I just hope that you were able to pass off the vital
> information to others while you had the chance.
I guess we'll all have to set back our clocks or something???
Or is this some kind of calendar shifting where June reappears
again on Oct 11th???
ha ha ha...
My best guess is that the Devil is TWEEKING a pile of people
having them dump loads of FLAKE messages just to SCATTER
the SHEEP and confuse them to the highest extent possible.
Typical.
(snip remainder of "Jesus" and "Mary" messages)
Look Dan, this stuff is absurd. The raw fact that Mary
is being said to be equal and in some of those statements
"infinitely powerful", just reeks of STUPIDITY.
NONE OF IT IS BASED IN THE SCRIPTURES.
God is the creator, God is infinitely powerful, and God
set up ONLY ONE METHOD for forgiveness of sins, that method
is simple:
* repent of your sins and ask Jesus to forgive you
* believe what Jesus said to be true
This is VERY easy to understand and it's FULLY explained
in the New Testament and TRACKS BACK to Isaiah 53 where
God himself calls Jesus the "ARM OF GOD" who would die for
the sins of the world. God made this prediction through
the prophet Isaiah >>> 750 years <<< prior to Jesus showing
up. Only God could have PREDICTED a global event like this
and ensured that it would come true.
Yet notice Dan, God didn't predict Mary being a "CO-REDEMPTRIX".
Mary has NO scriptures basing her as anything similar or
even close.
Think about it, you're being DUPED by Satan's group.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
TomandSuny
I wish to address you seriously.
It's posts like these that cause great distress amongst Christians. There is
absolutely no basis for any belief that Mary, the mother of Jesus, ever
appeared before mankind. Scripture does not support this anywhere. The only
Marian theology stems from gradual development by the Roman Catholic church
over centuries.
It is now Oct 14 and your prophetic utterances have proven false. Scripture
tells us that false prophets should be cast out from the presence of the
church. It's clear that your post is a grave deception intended for self
gratification.
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tomandsuny