Are Shi'a Muslims ?

[Khadija Zafar]

Bismillah Ir Rahman Ir Raheem

As-Salaamu Alaikum Waramatullah Wabarakatuh..
Part 1 Are Shi'a Muslims ?
How powerful can propaganda be in this age?Flooded by publication in so
many language, the Shi'a, for so many years, continously uttered falsehood
as truth. For those who are ignorant of the Shi'a Beliefs, as every
Muslim's duty, Sipah-e-Sahaba-USA intend to enlighten our brothers and
sisters especially the REVERT MUSLIMS trying to understand the difference
between being a Muslim and being a Shi'a.
Shi'a Beliefs according to their own BOOKS.
1. Belief of the Immamat. The standard of Immamat is higher than the
Prophethood. ( Hayatul Qaloob Vol. 3 pg. 10)
2. Angels bring WEHI to the Immamas:every Friday, they go to MIRAJ (
Asool-e-Kaafi pg. 135, 155)
3. Every year the BOOK reveals on the Immam of the Time of the night of
the Qadr ( Comt. Asool-e- Kaafi Vol. 2 pg.229)
4. Their Immams got higher status, that can't be achieved by the Angels
nor the Prophet. ( Khomeini . Hakoomatil Islamia pg.52)
5. Alteration in the Qur'an. A big part of the Qur'an is missing (Sani
Comt. Asool-e-Kaafi Vol. 6 pg. 75)
6. Like the Torah and the Bible, they claim that the Qur'an is also
corrupted and there were changes made in it. (Fazal-ul-Katab pg.70 )
7. Shi'a beliefs of 17,000 ayats (verses) in Qur'an ( Asool-e-Kaafi pg
671)
8. Hazrat Abu Bakr and Hazrat Umer were never became true Muslims
according to the Shi'a. ( Jal'l Ayuoon pg. 45 )
9. After the Prophet ( Sallalahu Alayhis Wasallam) passed away, all the
Sahabas left Islam except for three. ( Qur'an Kaafi Vol. 3 pg. 115 )
10. Mutt'a ( temporary marriage) In the name of Mutt'a, Shi'a faith
allows its followers to commit adultery. They allow man and woman to have
sexual relations without having the NIKKAH. Mutt'a is a temporary Nikkah
whereby you do not need witnesses. If the man and woman agreed, they can do
Mutt'a. Mutt'a could be performed for ONE hour, ONE day, ONE month or
whatever time limit was agreed upon by the two consenting parties. Mutt'a
could be done with any women even professional prostitutes. (Froaiy Kaafi
Vol.2 pg.189) Mutt'a is higher than SALAT, FASTING, and HAJJ. When after
performing Mutt'a , man and woman take Ghussul ( bath) , Allah(swt) forgive
their sins in the amount of the hair in their bodies those became wet
during the Ghussal ( Minal Yahderul Faqih pg. 431)
11. TAQIYYAH (lying) is an act of IBADAH ( worship ) in SHI'ASM. One who
hides the faith (Shi'a), will be disgraced by Allah(swt). (Asool-e-Kaafi
pg. 485) Taqiyyah is wajib(mandatory) . One who does not do Taqiyyah has no
iman (faith) (Asool-e-Kaafi pg484)

Who can say these above mentioned aquaid (beliefs) to be Islamic? This is
nothing but KUFR... Do not be mislead ! To the Muslim Ummah ,
SIPAH-e-SAHABA-USA, Inc. ( guardians of the SAHABA) urge all Believing
Muslims to participate in this GREAT JIHAD, that Shi'a are not MUSLIMS...

In service to Allah (swt),
K.Zafar

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[Ali Abbas]

Khadija Zafar (FirstLadyOfSIP...@msn.com) wrote:
: Bismillah Ir Rahman Ir Raheem

: As-Salaamu Alaikum Waramatullah Wabarakatuh..

Wa 'alaykum as salams wr wb.

: Part 1 Are Shi'a Muslims ?

As I compose this message, I was ambivalent if I should respond to it
in the first place. Perhaps my silence, will serve as a stimulant to
further encourage postings from your side/end. How-ever, I will take
the first step and propose this: Since you have accused us, the Shi'a
of deviation, I will not do pursue the same line of action. This is
a position that is contrary to the teachings of the Qur'an, as Allah,
Praise and Glory be to Him says in His word:

O you who believe, let not a folk ridicule another folk who may
be better than they are; nor should women ridicule other women
who may be better than them. Neother defame one another nor insult
one another by calling names. That is the name of lewdness after
faith and whoso turns not in repentance, such are evil doers. (49:11)

I know, that I can not speak for the many other Shi'a readers, perhaps
we do not share the same views. I how-ever encourage my readers and in
particular my Shi'a brothers and sisters to refrain from posting a
follow up to the article, till we read what the sister has to offer us
vis a vis our position. I think that is fair, and we shall proceed
from there, insha 'Allah.

This ends the matter.

In peace

-- Ali Abbas

[Navali]

Salaamu alaykum,

Very Interesting. However, will you please care to prove your
VERSION OF [Sunni] ISLAM from the Holy Qur'an ONLY? Please leave aside
your socalled ahadith and let's see how far you can go WITHOUT the latter?

Tell us, for instance:

1. Why do you turn towards the Kabah and pray 5 times/day when there is
NOT a single command in the Holy Qur'an asking you to do so?

2. Why do you PRAY times per day when there is NOT a single command in
the Holy Qur'an asking you to do so?

3. Why DON'T you follow and Imam-e-Zaman -- the Imam of the age when the
Holy Qur'an ASKS you to so HQ. 17:71,72?

Anything contrary to the above, were the INNOVATIONS introduced by your
forefathers and you, their direct descendant are only following that path
WITHOUT any knowledge or guidance! So please, look before you leap.

Salaam,

Navali

[D A Rice]

Assalamu alaikum,

I just wish to remind those who might post on this thread, that saying
someone else is a non-Muslim is a great sin if it is untrue.

Abu Dharr reportes that he heard the Prophet (s.a.w.) say, "Nobody
should call his brother an unbeliever or transgressor, because if
he is not like that then his reproach would rebound upon the
person who has said it."

[Bukhari]

I, personally, do accept the _majority_ of the Shi`ah as my brothers
and sisters in faith, although I have some differing views from them
(I am Sunni). I hope that, in these troubled times, we can at least
support each other, if not work together.

I have known personally some Shi`ah, and those who I have known seemed
to me to be good people.

Wassalam,

Fariduddien Rice

[Compaq User]

Assalam ala man itaba' alhuda

You just called the prophet Mohamad (s), Imam Ali, Hussain and Hassan and
many many more kuffar.

I am sure that you are backed up by an evil movement. At this time Islam
needs more unity, and less garbage from people like you.
Go read Sahih moslem and Bukhary about the stuff you wrote. Read the many
books written by shia's as they show you proofs from books of the Sunna.

Educate your self.
At least you should have read the Qura'an about the stuff you wrote about.
Read Surat al-nisaa' about Mutaa it is very clear just open your mind.

ALI Nehme

respond to me..I may help you read proof that Shia's are on the right path
using sunna refrences. That's if you are interested to know the right path.

[Kavosh Soltani]

On 27 May 1997, D A Rice wrote:

> Assalamu alaikum,
>
> I just wish to remind those who might post on this thread, that saying
> someone else is a non-Muslim is a great sin if it is untrue.

Indeed, and we are advised against hurting a Muslim's feeling in the Holy
Quran and are warned not to become sects (we are all one Ummah).

> I, personally, do accept the _majority_ of the Shi`ah as my brothers

> and sisters in faith, ...

I am a Muslim (no sects) and I accept all of them as Muslims (they
believe in La Ilaha EllAllah and other prerequisits mentioned in
al-bagara). Natually, among them - as among Muslims living in other
countries - are uneducated people who commit sins - including minor
shirk. My job is not to divide the Ummah but to guide and warn (as
ordered in Quran): Allah will pass judgement and there is no guarantee I
will be among the fortunate ones....

PS. Is it not strange that the knowledgeable scholars from all sides
recognize all our schools of thought as Muslim (except Qadianis)?

[Kavosh Soltani]

On 27 May 1997, Compaq User wrote:

> I am sure that you are backed up by an evil movement. At this time Islam
> needs more unity, and less garbage from people like you.
> Go read Sahih moslem and Bukhary about the stuff you wrote. Read the many
> books written by shia's as they show you proofs from books of the Sunna.

I agree with the fact that Muslims should put aside the divisive side
issues. Quran is clear on who is a believer and who goes to Heaven...

> Read Surat al-nisaa' about Mutaa it is very clear just open your mind.

I have a problem with the concept of Mutaa. I'm going to study this
further; but all the arabs I talk to translate the word in Quran (which
is actually not Mutaa) as "give extra" [the discussion is about giving
the Muhir to the women when you are divorcing....

Howver, I know of one hadith that says it is OK to do Mutaa and one that
says not to do it any longer...

>From quranic verses (of course indirectly) and everything I can think of
(Allah possibly does not want to increase the chance for prostitution), I
do not feel that the concept of Mutaa can have any place in Islam. I
have been promised - by a scholar - some information this weekend.
EnshaAllah, I will share the information with all Brother and Sisters -
if one can have Mutaa then I can potentially have a different Wife every
week?!!!

(No where in Quran or hadith we are told to have a minimum term for
marriages)

No, this can't be right! Can it?

[brad]

Bismillahi Rahmaan Iraheem

Khadija Zafar wrote:

> . We are speaking of religious sense>>>Islamic Monotheism ( Thauhid),
> Shahada(declaration of faith),Ash-Shirk ( polytheism and its various
> manesfestation), Al-Kufr ( Disbelief and its various manifestations),
> Al-Nifaq( Hyprocrisy and its various manifestation),

It seems to me that you are not well aware of the beleif of Shia school
of thought (the first school 'of' Islam).

Monothiesm in a religious sense is ONESS OF GOD (read the article posted
by that name where ALi (as) gives his view of Tawhid).

Keep in mind that the Shia of ALi follow ALi.

Furthermore, your propoganda beliefs have been facbricated and twisted
to "cleanse" Islam by wiping it out! ..."..yet you donot percieve it.."

Shirk or polytheism is ascribing partners to ALLah(swt). Suplicating
other than to Allah(swt) is NOT shirk (unless you think that this is
against Islam). "Allahuma Salli 'alaa Muhammad wa aale Muhammad"
-according to you, saying this would be shirk but the PRophet(pbuh+hf)
tauhgt otherwise and ordered us to say this in our prayers.

Every muslim believes and worshipps one God (Allah(Swt)) - i think you
and you party really need to learn basics of Islam:

eg such as what is MOnotheism
what is Shirk
what is Fasiq
what is Kafir
what is good Muslim.

>.Check the context first.

Really now. You need to check the content since most of it that you
illustrated is not in there or either twisted.... with the intention of
damaging Islam.

I wonder, have you read any book written BY a Shia authoritive, or do
believe what is written ABOUT them?

Please ensure that you accurately quote and post articles on ISlam in
the near future.

Thankyou

Peace

[Kavosh Soltani]

On 29 May 1997, brad wrote:

> Bismillahi Rahmaan Iraheem

>
> Keep in mind that the Shia of ALi follow ALi.

Of course you mean as a source of information (like the Ahle Sunnah
follow four scholars who organized the major schools of thought...).
They still believe in Allah, Quran, and Muhammad (S).

Although, I must mention there is a very small minority
who actually think Ali was more than a man (if you know what I mean).
Before you misunderstand, this is not in Shi'a authorative teachings, but
I am disappointed that in Islamic Republic no one talks and rebukes it...

But, what is this thing about if you do not have a Marjae Tagleed (A
scholar that you follow blindly) everything is haram to you: You
property, your wife, etc.? Is this in authorative Shi'a teachings or is
this created by Mullahs to keep power?

Wassalam.

[doo...@hooked.net]

As Salaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullah,
The answer to any questions of "are ___ Muslims?" can be answered by
investigating a few simple points. If a person or a group of people
believe in the unity of Allah and the day of judgement, believe in the
prophethood of Muhammad, believe in the angels, if they keep up Salat,
pay Zakat, fast in Ramadan, and perform the Hajj if they're able to,
they are Muslims.
They can believe things completely contradictory to the Qur'an, or the
words of any of the prophets and still be Muslim. They can commit any
imaginable sin and still be Muslim, so long as they still fulfill the
aforementioned items.
Accusing a Muslim or a Muslim group of disbelief is in itself an act of
disbelief. The prophet never accused even the individuals he knew to be
hypocrites of disbelief, nor did he treat them in a way any different
from other Muslims. No good can come from Muslims accusing Muslims of
disbelief; this can only lead to arguement, resentment, and further
division. If you find a Muslim saying something which you believe to be
in error, present to him/her your reasons for believing them to be in
error and try to help them see the truth. Don't waste your time
squabbling over petty differences.

Salaam,
Mr. Mujahid