Macross series..Order?
Kevin Lighton
> Can anyone tell me the correct order for all of the Macross
>series? 1st, I know, is "Macross", but I've heard they didn't finish it.
>I want to know the correct chronological order for the series.
I'm not sure I've understood this question correctly, but here goes:
Macross (36 eps, TV series, it was finished).
Macross: Love, Do You Remember? (Movie, retells the TV series with several
changes. The rest follow this timeline).
Macross: Flashback 2012 (Movie, apparently a compilation of songs from the
TV series with new animation).
Macross II (6 eps, OAV series).
Macross III (Rumored to be being worked on).
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Michael Liu
In a previous article, lig...@eden.rutgers.edu (Kevin Lighton) says:
>Macross III (Rumored to be being worked on).
So far, it's just a rumour. I haven't seen anything from Bandai that
indicates another sequel to Macross yet. I should get info on their next
quarter's products soon within a week or two, though.
However, there is something new coming for Masked Rider. ^_^ It's
anticipated as a TV series so far, but it could be a movie. However, if
it's scheduled for early next year, a non-SD Masked Rider new product would
almost have to be a TV series.
Unless they mean "early" as the first five months.
Michael Liu
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Randall Miyashiro
>In article <2edvvj$6...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
>:
>:Anyone wants to do the timeline for the video games?
>there are some TV-series pulls. But it mostly follows the movie.
>
>Anyone have the background history behind the S-CD Eternal Love Song,
I don't, but I do know the old Famicon Macross game takes place during the
movie.
-Tokio Randall Miyashiro
Alan Lee
>In article <2edh1u$3...@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>,
>Michael Savenelli <ev047x@unix1> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Can anyone tell me the correct order for all of the Macross
>>series? 1st, I know, is "Macross", but I've heard they didn't finish it.
>>I want to know the correct chronological order for the series.
>>
>
>The correct chronological order would be:
>
>Super Dimension Fortress Macross
>The Sentinals (which is unfinished .. exept in comics .. I guess)
>Super Dimension Calvery Southern Cross
>Genesis Climber Mospeada
The above is the ROBOTECH chronology. I think that it is a big
deal to keep Macross and Robotech separate.
Robotech II: The Sentinels was indeed unfinished. Chornologically,
the whole thing spans from when Dana is about 7 until she is
about, geez, I don't know, 19 or so? when she meets her parents
back on Tirol after the Sentinels campaign...the very end of
the Sentinels novels have the SDF-3 folding to go home. But as
you know, it never materialized at the end of the New Generation.
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Michael Savenelli
Haro-chan
The first TV series was pretty much finished.... IÕm a little confused
about your question. Do you mean the original Japanese series?
Super Dimension[al] Fortress Macross TV Series
October 3, 1982-June 26, 1983 [Story: July 1, 1999 to January 2012]
Super Dimension[al] Fortress Macross: Love, Do You Remember? Theatrical Film
July 8, 1984 [Story: 2009-2010]
Super Dimension[al] Fortress Macross: Flashback 2012 OAV Special
1987 [Story: 2012]
Super Dimension[al] Macross II: Lovers Again OAV Series
Summer/Fall 1992-1993 [Story: ~80 years after the film]
The film, the Flashback OAV, and the Macross II OAVs essentially occur in
the same timeline. The TV series exists in another timeline.
Anyone wants to do the timeline for the video games?
Just being me,
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The correct chronological order would be:
Super Dimension Fortress Macross
The Sentinals (which is unfinished .. exept in comics .. I guess)
Super Dimension Calvery Southern Cross
Genesis Climber Mospeada
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Profess'nal Agitator
>In article <2edh1u$3...@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>,
>Michael Savenelli <ev047x@unix1> wrote:
>>
>>
>The correct chronological order would be:
>Super Dimension Fortress Macross
>The Sentinals (which is unfinished .. exept in comics .. I guess)
>Super Dimension Calvery Southern Cross
>Genesis Climber Mospeada
(Keep reading, there is Macross material after all the 'TECH spew.)
No, it's not. That's sort of the chronological order of ROBOTECH.
However, for ROBOTECH, the absolute correct response, including the
Eternity side projects, would be:
ROBOTECH Genesis (Eternity side comic)
Macross Saga (SDF Macross-derived segment)
ROBOTECH II: Malcontent Uprisings (Eternity side comic)
almost all of The Sentinels
ROBOTECH II: Cyberpirates (Eternity side comic)
Robotech Masters (SDC Southern Cross-derived segment)
ROBOTECH Invid War (Eternity side comic)
ROBOTECH Firewalkers (compilation of a four-part side series in
Eternity's Captain Harlock: Fall of Empire)
New Generation (Genesis Climber Mospeada-derived segment)
concurrent with the post-Battle for Optera part of The Sentinels
The Sentinels story has been finished in the five "McKinney" novels.
Eternity is fleshing out the story by roughly dedicating two comics to
one "episode". (The novels do not distinguish eps, though.)
Firewalkers actually takes place after Invid War started, but ends
before Invid War does. Invid War is also concurrent with New
Generation after Invid War 14 and ROBOTECH 64 ("Survival").
As for post-Symphony of Light, there are three alternate timelines.
There's "McKinney"'s End of the Circle, Siembieda's Second Coming of
the Invid to facilitate post-Symphony rpg campaigns that just don't
want to quit, and the newly released Eternity series, Invid War:
Aftermath. To complicate matters, all three are "official" according
to Harmony Gold.
But, back to the original poster, who was asking specifically about Macross.
Macross tv and Macross '84: Love, Do You Remember? are separate
stories. Everything afterwards follows the Macross '84 timeline. The
music video Flashback 2012 is in the movie timeline, and the six-part
OAV series, Macross II, takes place eighty years after the end of
Macross '84.
Hope this helps,
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Jim Miller
The novel series is finished... 5 books of Sentinals + a good sized
tie together novel rounding out the whole Robotech series. I liked
them.
)The above is the ROBOTECH chronology. I think that it is a big
)deal to keep Macross and Robotech separate.
I agree as them seem to be quite a bit different. 8-)
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>Eternity is fleshing out the story by roughly dedicating two comics to
>one "episode". (The novels do not distinguish eps, though.)
"McKinney's" End of the Circle defines the end of Robotech for me.
There were some holes here and there. (Did you notice that in
one of the New Generation novels, Breetai had a chapter quote but
chronologically he was toasted long ago on Optera? OOPS)
The bit with the SDF-1's fold drives was very cute. Truly the end
to the circle. However, I still don't quite understand the stuff
about Minmei, Rem, the Pollinators, and the SDF-3 drive whereever
they are and how Zor would come from all this. I mean, how would
Zor get to real time and space? I still have no clue on this one.
>
>As for post-Symphony of Light, there are three alternate timelines.
>There's "McKinney"'s End of the Circle, Siembieda's Second Coming of
>the Invid to facilitate post-Symphony rpg campaigns that just don't
>want to quit, and the newly released Eternity series, Invid War:
>Aftermath. To complicate matters, all three are "official" according
>to Harmony Gold.
>
Have you been following Invid War: Aftermath? I picked it up by
accident one day. The art is very undesirable, but the story seems
to be very interesting. I guess Mospeada lovers would appreciate
this since The End of the Cirlce really short changed them. But
I'd still go with the "McKinney" stuff. It was complete and sweet.
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Profess'nal Agitator
>>The Sentinels story has been finished in the five "McKinney" novels.
>>Eternity is fleshing out the story by roughly dedicating two comics to
>>one "episode". (The novels do not distinguish eps, though.)
>"McKinney's" End of the Circle defines the end of Robotech for me.
>There were some holes here and there. (Did you notice that in
>one of the New Generation novels, Breetai had a chapter quote but
>chronologically he was toasted long ago on Optera? OOPS)
Well, obviously neither Daley nor Luceno had seen Sentinels plot
briefs when they wrote the first twelve books of the original series.
>The bit with the SDF-1's fold drives was very cute. Truly the end
Cute? This is the part that most people find most objectionable about
EotC. While I generally like EotC, I must concur here.
"Ro-bo-tech, Ro-bo-tech!"
Oh, please.
>to the circle. However, I still don't quite understand the stuff
>about Minmei, Rem, the Pollinators, and the SDF-3 drive whereever
>they are and how Zor would come from all this. I mean, how would
>Zor get to real time and space? I still have no clue on this one.
One word, Haydon.
>Have you been following Invid War: Aftermath? I picked it up by
>accident one day. The art is very undesirable, but the story seems
>to be very interesting. I guess Mospeada lovers would appreciate
>this since The End of the Cirlce really short changed them. But
>I'd still go with the "McKinney" stuff. It was complete and sweet.
I'm working on a review for the 'TECH list. I'll probably put it up
here, too. Because of my initial reaction to #1 and my general
nature, I was probably going to wait for #2 to give the series a
better chance.
I doubt Mospeada lovers would appreciate Aftermath because the
characters were radically changed, particularly Rook and Scott. And
after being accustomed to the recognizable work of Bill Spangler
(Invid War and Malcontents), this new artist needs some "sinking in"
time. Lunk and Lancer are barely recognizable. Rand isn't. And I
certainly couldn't pick Sera out of a crowd!
Add in new lettering style, heavy-handed politics, and a radical shift
in "philosophy" behind this post-Symphony setting, and Aftermath has a
tough road ahead of it.
After the almost always brilliance of Invid War (IW 14 is about the
only one that really annoyed me and that was for auxiliary reasons.),
the new Aftermath looks like it's desinted to flop.
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Alan Lee
>In article <2eiqla$8...@agate.berkeley.edu>, Alan Lee <ala...@haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>>The bit with the SDF-1's fold drives was very cute. Truly the end
>
>Cute? This is the part that most people find most objectionable about
>EotC. While I generally like EotC, I must concur here.
oh. I didn't know that. I've never discussed Robotech before. the
part I don't like is the fact that the kids have these weird powers
to call up fold drives. But accepting that fact, why not SDF-1's?
It's already weird.
>
>>to the circle. However, I still don't quite understand the stuff
>>about Minmei, Rem, the Pollinators, and the SDF-3 drive whereever
>>they are and how Zor would come from all this. I mean, how would
>>Zor get to real time and space? I still have no clue on this one.
>
>One word, Haydon.
Right, I understand that Haydon plucked them out of real space
and stuck them on the asteroid thing. What I was wondering was
how Zor could get to his proper place in time and space. Haydon
at this point was off to his own dimensions and stuff (right?
I haven't read this in about 3 years now)
>time. Lunk and Lancer are barely recognizable. Rand isn't. And I
>certainly couldn't pick Sera out of a crowd!
Actually, Sera was one of the ones I was more readily to "accept"
by the new artist. She has long hair just like the Mospeada video
(love, live, alive) has her. Heck, never mind, it's all unrecognizable.
I kind of feel that the artist either didn't care to draw it
carefully or can't. Well, I never know when the Robotech stuff
comes in so I'll probably miss the rest of the series...
Ryo-oh-ki Lee
Haro-chan <ega...@uclink.berkeley.edu> wrote:
:
:Anyone wants to do the timeline for the video games?
Only played the first S-CD for the PC-Engine. Given the VAGUE nature
of the introduction, the story (set in the year 2036) is a strange
synthesis of some TV series and mostly movie. The art designs are
definitely from the movie, but the main character Komillia Malia Genius
(daughter of Max and Millia) is micron-sized! The background story
behind her does not indicate what physical size she spent her childhood
(and her parents' pressure not to become a Valkyrie pilot), so maybe
there are some TV-series pulls. But it mostly follows the movie.
Anyone have the background history behind the S-CD Eternal Love Song,
and the Super Famicom version?
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Profess'nal Agitator
>In article <CI4At...@kaiwan.com> agit...@kaiwan.com (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
>>In article <2eiqla$8...@agate.berkeley.edu>, Alan Lee <ala...@haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>The bit with the SDF-1's fold drives was very cute. Truly the end
>>Cute? This is the part that most people find most objectionable about
>>EotC. While I generally like EotC, I must concur here.
>oh. I didn't know that. I've never discussed Robotech before. the
>part I don't like is the fact that the kids have these weird powers
>to call up fold drives. But accepting that fact, why not SDF-1's?
>It's already weird.
Pay close attention. You're giving the same arguments most of us are
about this segment. See? You're against it, too.
>Right, I understand that Haydon plucked them out of real space
>and stuck them on the asteroid thing. What I was wondering was
>how Zor could get to his proper place in time and space. Haydon
>at this point was off to his own dimensions and stuff (right?
>I haven't read this in about 3 years now)
Well, if Haydon can take people out of ordinary spacetime, it seems
reasonable that he can also place them back in spacetime at any point
he wishes.
>>time. Lunk and Lancer are barely recognizable. Rand isn't. And I
>>certainly couldn't pick Sera out of a crowd!
>Actually, Sera was one of the ones I was more readily to "accept"
>by the new artist. She has long hair just like the Mospeada video
>(love, live, alive) has her. Heck, never mind, it's all unrecognizable.
Ah, haven't seen Love, Live, Alive. It's one of those things I keep
my eyes out for since I don't have an LD player.
>I kind of feel that the artist either didn't care to draw it
>carefully or can't. Well, I never know when the Robotech stuff
>comes in so I'll probably miss the rest of the series...
Well, apparently there are enough people at Eternity who are satisfied
with his style/interpretation. It's such a radical departure from
Spangler and Waltrip, though, that it makes you wonder.
Series seems to be coming out about the same time as the previous
Invid War, end of the month, 'bout two weeks before Animerica. (yeah,
yeah, different publishers, but they're all [supposedly] on monthly
release schedules)
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