Bachynsky is corrupt so report HIM to the DOJ
WoodTick
99.9% of what Bachynsky does is unethical....
99.9% of what Bachynsky does is unconsciousable...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion of this slime and while you are
free to post your praises (albeit misdirected & unworthy in my
opinion) I am also free to post my opinion based on knowledge of him
and his lack of principles, ethics, morals, respect, etc.
In the end, the truth will be known.
ElMar
DOJ would be pretty familiar with him without anyone needing to report
him.
Chuck P Adams
>Date: 5/14/2003 1:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Is this the same doc from Texas who was in prison? It would seem the
>DOJ would be pretty familiar with him without anyone needing to report
>him.
If he is a LLMD he could be in prison... We need to report as many LLMD's as
we can!
JWissmille
".........The Westchester Medical Center, 15 miles north of New York City, has
been
trying to position itself as a topflight medical center. It is a major
transplant center and has recently ventured into robot surgery. It suffered a
setback in March when an accreditation team caught the staff altering a
patient's chart and automatically gave it a ranking that was among the lowest
in the country..........."
AP Regional
07-31-01
Investigators probe child's MRI machine death
by JIM FITZGERALD
Associated Press Writer
VALHALLA, N.Y. (AP) - A state health department team on Monday was
investigating the scene at Westchester Medical Center where a 6-year-old boy
was fatally injured while undergoing an MRI exam.
Health Department spokesman Robert Kenny said investigators were checking
records and interviewing staffers in the wake of the boy's death, which came
after his skull was fractured by a flying metal oxygen tank that was pulled
through the air by the MRI machine's powerful magnet. The hospital and the
Westchester District Attorney's office also are reviewing the case.
The boy, Michael Colombini, of Croton-on-Hudson, died Sunday, two days after he
was hit by the tank, which is about the size of a fire extinguisher. The county
medical examiner's office said the boy's death was caused by blunt force
trauma, a fractured skull and a bruised brain.
Westchester Medical Center, in Valhalla, said the tank had been accidentally
''introduced into the exam room'' after the boy was in the magnetic resonance
imaging machine and the 10-ton electromagnet was switched on.
The oxygen tank was ''immediately magnetized and drawn to the center of the
machine, causing head trauma to the child,'' the medical center said in a news
release. The boy, who had undergone surgery before the MRI exam, was sedated
when he was struck, the hospital said.
He reportedly was recovering from an operation to remove a brain tumor, which
was discovered last week after he fell down at home, relatives said. The MRI
was scheduled to check Michael's progress.
Neighbors of the Colombini family said Michael was a great kid.
''What can you say? It's every parent's worst nightmare,'' neighbor Jenny Anson
told the New York Post. ''Especially in a place where you expect them to be
cared for.''
Edward Stolzenberg, president and chief executive officer of the medical
center, said in a statement that the hospital assumes full responsibility and
''will do anything it can to ease the family's grief.''
''The trauma was due to what can only be described as a horrific accident, and
the entire medical center is grieving,'' Stolzenberg said.
An MRI generates images of the body using an electromagnet, radio waves and a
computer. It is conducted eight million times each year in the U.S. to diagnose
many diseases, including brain tumors, spinal disorders and heart disease. It
is considered nearly risk-free, but no metal objects are supposed to be in the
testing area.
Carin Grossman, a spokeswoman for the medical center, would not say who took
the oxygen tank into the MRI area.
''It was brought into the area of the field of the magnet and it went through
the air,'' she said.
In Rochester last year, an MRI magnet yanked a .45-caliber gun out of the hand
of a police officer, and the gun shot a round that lodged in a wall.
The Westchester Medical Center, 15 miles north of New York City, has been
trying to position itself as a topflight medical center. It is a major
transplant center and has recently ventured into robot surgery. It suffered a
setback in March when an accreditation team caught the staff altering a
patient's chart and automatically gave it a ranking that was among the lowest
in the country.
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ElMar
Bowen
to work for Bachynsky and ICHT?? Pretty amazing, huh? Doc's pulling
out the Big Guns now isn't he?
Rita Stanley
http://204.65.101.19/OnLineVerif/Phys_ReportVerif.asp?ID_NUM=51620&Type=LP ?
If this is still true, how can one practice medicine without a license?
If this is NOT the case, please let us know.
What are the legalities involved in this instance and for anyone who
solicits business for that person? Are there ways for a person w/o a medical
license to work around the system? I'd like to know how this is all done.
I have yet to see these points addressed directly. I have seen lots of
rationalizations and suppositions invectives and guesses, but no factual
answers. I have seen people who say they do not care. That is just opinion
and misdirects from the intended quesions.
Please clarify with facts.
Rita
WoodTick
all his criminal activities. He has not regained it.
He gets around this by claiming this magisterial prescription
authority. I read a post from last year on lymenet where "Doc" faxed a
letter verifying his status in Switzerland to someone (Jill?) but it
was written in German. Why would Switzerland recognize magisterial
prescription authority from Germany? Does anyone know?
I have never said that the DNP therapy doesn't work - I have only
maintained that Bachynsky is a con man. DNP is Bachynsky's baby and he
has been looking for a way to make big money with it since the early
80s. He tried it for weight loss,and was shut down by the government,
but not before he amassed a small fortune (of which the government
recouped alot of through forfeiture).
Since he has no license to practice in the U.S. he has been forced
to move his criminal enterprise overseas. So many are impressed by his
knowledge of DNP, but if any of you had 10 years to sit in prison with
absolutely nothing to do but read and research, you could be just as
informed.
WoodTick
this without a medical license. He pays a real medical doctor a fee to
be the treating physician of record, while he has the title of
consultant.
The problem with this is that all the posters have been physically
treated by Bachynsky and not this other doctor. I doubt they have ever
seen the other guy. Bachynsky is totally hands-on, believe me.
He boasts of the magisterial prescription authority as if it was his
permission slip from the Italian government, when in actuality, it has
zero to do with a non-licensed doc treating patients. My understanding
of it, and please someone correct me if I'm wrong, is that it
authorizes use of medications, etc. that are intended for one purpose
to be used for another.
jill ellen
Bern. I studied German in college but I can't translate it perfectly.
So what is your problem.
It is not from Germany.
Woodt...@aol.com (WoodTick) wrote in message news:<94d2171b.03052...@posting.google.com>...
Rita Stanley
"WoodTick" <Woodt...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:94d2171b.03052...@posting.google.com...
So what I am reading is that someone without a medical license can prescribe
medications - or use chemicals since DNP is not considered a legit
medication - to patients if they have this magisterial authority in Italy.
Is that right, assuming one has this authority to begin with? If one does,
I would expect a paper trail and the ability to find it if the correct
authorities are contacted. I would not accept nor believe someone having
seen a piece of paper - much too easy to make up stuff. But why bother with
this at all if one has a doctor fronting for oneself to begin with?
And you have established then, that Bachnisky is NOT a doctor for a fact?
One would not want to accuse someone of this if it is wrong. He has no
medical license anywhere at all? There ought to be a paper trail on that for
sure.
Back to the magisterial authority - how does one obtain this title to begin
with? Do you take a course or present past documents or pay a large fee or
what? What oversight is there by authorities?
And, here's another one I am curious about - can one get one's medical
licencse back in the US if one has been convicted of a felony? If so, how,
and what would one have to do to get it back? If the felony is related to
one's medical practice, would that make it more difficult to get one's
license back assuming one can get it back after having doing time?
And what are all the possible legal implications in all of this? I can't
even imagine where to start..........If what is being done would be
considered illegal in the U.S., can soliciting business from the U.S. be
considered illegal? What authorities would investigate?
Rita
Rita Stanley
Assuming THAT is legit.
This is all so confusing - is it meant to be so?
How does all this work?
I expect forthrigthness from medical practitioners if that is what they are.
Lay it all out in black and white, good and bad, and let the people decide.
Facts. That's what the people I know want. We see the subjective stuff.
That's fine, but this pulling teeth to try and find out what is legit and
not is ridiculous.
Rita
WoodTick
your smart-alecky, I-know-everything-about-everything tone.
If something's written in German, I assume it's from Germany. Common
assumption, I'd say. Sort of like if it was written in Italian, I'd
assume it was from Italy. I just think it's quite funny that he faxed
that to you, as proof of ... what?
Other posters have stated quite emphatically that Swiss Medic has
given no authority whatsoever for the legal use of DNP in their
country. Why don't you check that out for us all, J., since you have
nothing more to do than try to constantly one-up people and prove
others wrong.
If I posted the sky was blue, you'd spend an entire week trying to
prove that it's not always blue, but sometimes various shades of gray,
black, white, etc. God, you expend so much time and energy always
being right.
Rita Stanley
"Rita Stanley" <rlst...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:...
> So what I am reading is that someone without a medical license can
prescribe
> medications - or use chemicals since DNP is not considered a legit
> medication - to patients if they have this magisterial authority in
Italy.
> Is that right, assuming one has this authority to begin with?
Opps, I see I got it all wrong. I was confused.
Apparently then, this magisterial authority by Swiss Medic (assuming
Bachnisky even has it) has nothing at all to do with giving DNP to patients
in Italy by a non-doctor.
What a tangled web.
Rita
Rosesisland
doen't make him not a doctor. Prehaps I don't understand. Many
people work for doctors who are not doctors. What comes to my mind is
a Bone Marrow Transplant Coordinator, of which I was one. I am not a
doctor, but worked for a very large US transplant center and was the
first person the patient spoke to before coming to our institution
with was a part of a large university medical system.
As I understand it, Dr. B is working there as a consultant. The
people over here working toward helping patients to get to Italy are
lay people in a volenteer capacity trying to help people as they were
helped through the process. There's a whole lot more than doctoring
that goes on in order for a patient to get treatment.
I have not been to Italy or done the procedure. I have no affiliation
with Dr. B or the Italy clinic. I think what they are doing is great.
Most cutting edge medical procedures are experimental, ie. bone marrow
transplants were considered experimental by the insurance companies
just as recent as 15 years ago.
It upsets me when a person is being helped for others to try to knock
them down. Why? What is their particular agenda in putting this
treatment down.
If anything new helps us LD patients...then, so be it. I don't care
if he has decleared bankruptcy or even been arrested. So what, do
those things really have anything to do with or negate his medical
education? I don't think so.
What do they have to do with people going there and getting better if
not well?
"Rita Stanley" <rlst...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<SRMya.408296> > Is that right, assuming one has this authority to begin with?
WoodTick
to do with using DNP in a capacity other than that which it was
originally intended. It certainly does NOT authorize Dr. Bachynsky, as
a non-licensed physician, to administer it. One has nothing to do with
the other.
Bachynsky simply hides behind the cloak of a local Italian doctor
he has on board who IS licensed. There is often discussion on this
board, as well as Lymenet, giving detailed descriptions of Bachynsky's
direct administering and treating of the patients who go to Italy.
There is a very lively one going on right now on Lymenet. I can't
remember the thread topic, but I believe it was began by sky king or
something similar and is about his experience in Italy.
Bachynsky is all over him, hands-on. I have never seen mention of
any other physicians involved in the care/treatment of patients
receiving ICHT in Italy.
The consultant of record is the treating (non)physician and the
treating physician of record is a beard.
Rita Stanley
"Rosesisland" <rosesis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
> What do they have to do with people going there and getting better if
> not well?
From the git go, the background of Bachnisky and what he was using to treat
patients was kept well hidden. When people started digging and finding out
about this person's past - very serious legal troubles- and what he appeared
to be using (DNP - took foreve to pull that tooth) anyone who put out the
details for people where chastised and the facts were called " vicious
rumors". Anytime anyone would ask questions or question the reputation of
Bachnisky, they were hammered. Use of invectives, character denigrations,
misdirection and all sorts of "yelling" and subjective thought were used to
keep people from finding out facts and details........A classic study in
group thought control. Of course, in every group there are those who don't
give in to such brow beating..............
"Knocking a person down" is what you call pointing out facts about a
person's past esp or questioning to find out details that would appear to
influence his future actions. Keeping those facts hidden because you don't
like them or refuse to believe them is unethical and wrong. You can choose
to ignore them; others will not. Censorship is merely another manipulative
tool to control thought.
Really, if I hire a contractor to work on my house and find out that he was
fined and jailed (and not properly licensed) for having done what I want him
to do for me, then, most likely I will not let him near my house. Of course,
I could fall for his line and be insulted by others into accepting that
reality is not what it seems and hire him. Same deal. My choice. But I want
the details.
As for getting better - so many did not - and those few who posted that were
denigrated, also, or were patronized to "go back" and get more treatment.
What smallness. So controlling. Such obvious manipulative nonsense.
No matter what though. Facts are facts. They can be denigrated, those who
put out the information can be damned, but in the end facts, are still facts
and people will get them. And draw their own conclusions.
To work hard at keeping Bachnisky's past hidden, to muddy the picture so
that people are not given the whole story, to tell people that the facts DO
NOT MATTER is small thinking. People should be given the entire picture and
they will make up their own minds.
I find all of this a fascinating. The way people react to a charismatic
confidence man is almost classic.
The story, of course, will continue, and I will continue to have more
questions.
Rita
Rita Stanley
> he has on board who IS licensed. There is often discussion on this
> board, as well as Lymenet, giving detailed descriptions of Bachynsky's
> direct administering and treating of the patients who go to Italy.
> There is a very lively one going on right now on Lymenet. I can't
> remember the thread topic, but I believe it was began by sky king or
> something similar and is about his experience in Italy.
Yeah, I found it at http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016682.html
Interesting stuff about Mexico. Of course, that is not a "nice" thing to put
out...........the person who put it out had guts. I suspect he cares that
some folks do want to know the past of this person in order to draw their
own conclusions.
I am waiting for this person to be accused to being a "troll" - that always
seems to be the fallback - the reasoning - of this crew. misdirect by
calling names instead of verifying information....................
I would be called a troll, too, only I use my real name. Other names are
more appropriate for me, right? I was called some good ones the other day,
and it made for convincing argument. Very impressive. I guess the logic is
that one is supposed to "heel" (go along), and, as a reward, one will not be
called names and be "accepted" by the group. Ah, peer pressure - so fine.
In all of this though, no one has even found out that any of these legal
facts are false...............that is what I am interested in. Details,
facts, truths, falsehoods.
I await another lecture on how this guy is curing people and is a saint.
Rita
Frank Andreas de Groot
"Rita Stanley" <rlst...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:156za.683861$OV.641412@rwcrnsc54...
>
>
> From the git go, the background of Bachnisky and what he was using to treat
> patients was kept well hidden. When people started digging and finding out
> about this person's past - very serious legal troubles- and what he appeared
> to be using (DNP - took foreve to pull that tooth) anyone who put out the
> details for people where chastised and the facts were called " vicious
> rumors".
The only reason DNP was banned is that the LD50 dose is only 4 to 6 times the dose for hyperthermia.
100,000 people have used DNP to loose weight in the 1930's, and because some morons took too many and OD-ed, it was banned.
DNP is just a highly lethal drug in naive hands. It doesn't mean that it won't do exactly what it's supposed to do when taken
correctly: Hyperthermia.
It is the safest of all uncoupling agents and the most potent. It is easy to speed up metabolism by 30-50% with it.
It can be taken orally and there is no reason why you couldn't do such treatment at home, self-medicating.
So I am by no means advocating going to Dr. Bachynsky, but I think there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to attack him on
providing heperthermia. I think the guy's great.
Anytime anyone would ask questions or question the reputation of
> Bachnisky, they were hammered. Use of invectives, character denigrations,
> misdirection and all sorts of "yelling" and subjective thought were used to
> keep people from finding out facts and details........A classic study in
> group thought control.
How do you call your incessant (baseless) attacks on the guy? He isn't even defending himself here.
You NEVER come with scientific arguments why his treatment is useless. What you are doing is pure demagogy.
> Really, if I hire a contractor to work on my house and find out that he was
> fined and jailed (and not properly licensed) for having done what I want him
> to do for me, then, most likely I will not let him near my house. Of course,
> I could fall for his line and be insulted by others into accepting that
> reality is not what it seems and hire him. Same deal. My choice. But I want
> the details.
Really, if I am bleeding from a major artery and someone comes along and offers to stop the bleeding for a hundred bucks I am not
going to research his credentials. Especially not if others tell me that indeed this guy is know to have stopped bleeds before.
Indeed, Roseanne and Henriette are nutcases andn I don't trust their "I am cured" one bit, but fact is that Hyperthermia does have a
beneficial effect on Lyme, fact is that abx. work much better at higher temperatures, fact is that quite a few people roport to have
ben 100% cured or tremendously improved for a long while.
Bachynsky listens to patients who say they relapse. He greatly increased treatment duration and he reduced the price of treatment.
People who have not much money get reductions. People who want to take their spouse with get free accomodation. It's not that the
guy is getting super-rich with this you know. Letting someone live in a staffed hospital is not exactly cheap. Especially not when
you look at the high level of care necessary (and given).
Where were you when people said that "Zappers" cured them?
Jealous that Bachynsky makes a bit of cash on REAL treatment,
and your HBOT endeavors still don't generate enough profit?
Afraid people will go to him instead of your friends with the hyper-expensive Hyperbaric chamber who you helped funding and have
been heavily promoting and for wich people say "It helps" but not a single one claims to be cured and several reported irreverable
damage to the optic nerve?
Frank Andreas de Groot
But what about those people who say they owe their lives to him, doesn't that count?
The people with cancer who get cured, the people with Lyme who tried everything and get cured?
I tell you what I think of this guy Bachynsky.
He is like me.
Highly intelligent, known to violate a law here & there as long as it doesn't hurt people,
innovative, enterprising and TRULY interested in curing people in cool new ways that really work.
Of course he is very interested in money as well, and I don't blame him.
He takes risks with his hyperthermia.
But if he gets shut down, the people who had a hand in that will have caused quite a number of deaths that could have been prevented
with his treatment, perhaps.
I wouldn't mess with this guy anyway, if I were you. As you noticed, he has violated a law before. (whatever it is, I'm not
interested, it must have been some bureaucratic crap).
"Rita Stanley" <rlst...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:pq6za.422102$Si4.3...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
WoodTick
with Lyme who tried everything and get cured?
What about the people who owe their deaths to him?
Bragging about being like Bachynsky is a most inadmirable quality.
You may want to boast that on this board, but I wouldn't go to
Houston, TX flaunting that.
Although I'm not afraid to mess with him, I'd rather sit back and
watch the federal government mess with him. Believe me they already
are -- in Houston right now.
I'm mainly curious to see which country he will flee to next, once
Italy becomes wise to his scam. Does anyone out there know why he left
Switzerland for Italy in the first place?
Rita Stanley
true or not? I wouldn't want this said about me if it were false.
Taken from LymeFlash at:
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Posts: 11
From: Eureka Springs,Ark. USA
Registered: May 2003
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A little history on 2,4,dinitrophenol(DNP)& Dr. Bachynsky. DNP was
developed in the early thirties by MERCK pharmaceutical Co. for weight loss.
It was an "over the counter" pharmaceutical and it was abused by the public
and the instructions were not followed and deaths occurred from overdoses.
The reason the FDA was formed by Congress in 1939 was to control DNP
use. Merck took it off the market at the request of the FDA.
In the early eighties a NASA scientist by the name of Cone filed a
patent for use of DNP and diet to help with severe agressive cancers. Here
is where Bachytnsky enters the seen. He steals Cones idea and sets up weight
loss clinics everywhere in the U.S. and starts giving out DNP pills like
candy with no labelling or information to the unsuspecting patients about
what they were taking. In fairness to Bachynsky all the criminal and civil
cases in the eighties against him only one was for a death from its use. He
had over 150 lawsuits against him and he filed bankrupcy. He then went to
prison for ten years and all his illgotten gain was forfeited under the RICO
sentencing guidelines( organized crime statute).
In 1997 Bachynsky was released from prison. This where it gets fuzzie
from 1997-1999 he disappears. He was on supervised release from August
1997-August 2000. He shows an Arkansas state drivers license with an Address
in Texarkana, Ark.
In 1999 - 2000 he is in Mexico treating people with DNP for cancer.
Convicted felons on supervision are not allowed to leave the country- so he
was in violation of prison release agreement.
Criminal papers filed on Bachynsky in Monterrey, Mexico in 2001 state
all this and more. It lists the patients killed and and the violation of
U.S. supervised release. There is an arrest warrant on file for Bachynsky in
Mexico that is current.
He then goes off supervised release in August 2000 and shows up in
Europe.
An interesting point is he stated in his web site that it is illegal
to use DNP in Mexico-Why was he doing it? It couldn't be for money could it?
On May 7, 2003 the United States of America filed suit against
Bachynsky in Federal court in Houston, Texas. I don't have those details yet
but you can only guess what he did to have the Gov't sue him.
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From: Eureka Springs,Ark. USA
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Semper-fi
Have no fear the only way to shut Bachynsky down would be to arrest
him and he seems to slippery for that:
MEXICO 1999-2000
GERMANY 2000-2001
SWITZERLAND 2001-2002
ITALY 2002-present
Where to next???????????
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From: Eureka Springs,Ark. USA
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Jen 13
I know the right way to do things. Semper_fi says he wants the pro's &
con's. Here they are.
There is no pharmakenetics being done on DNP, No toxicology screens
being done on DNP, no thermal imaging being done, No organ ( Liver, Lung,
Kidney,Cardiac) evaluation studies being done on any of these patients in
Italy.
It takes an act of God to change a prodocal in a credible University
setting, Bachynsky changes it everytime he feels like it or a patient wants
something different.
If Semper_Fi's wife needed treatment and he loves her as I am sure he
does he would not subject her to this experiment of Bachynsky's without
knowing the Pro's and Cons.
Would Semper_Fi inject GUN POWDER in his wife, or a HERBICIDE, or a
PHOTO DEVELOPER, or a CLOTHING DYE and not worry whether it was safe to do.
I doubt it. For your interest 2,4,dinitrophenol is one of the main
components of all four of these very toxic products.
One more topic. The Italian Physician is never mentioned in anyones
web site WHY? and if this chemical is a cure of cures WHY is Bachynsky using
it in a remote area and not in the big cities such as Milan. The answer is
simple, he doesn't want to draw attention of the Italian authorities or the
main stream medical community in Italy.
Don't be fooled by "Magisterial Prescription" he used the same BS in
Mexico and they are after him.
Frank Andreas de Groot
Second, it's pure demagogy to say that DNP is weed killer and all that.
Nitroglycerine is the active ingredient in explosives used by terrorists to kill Yanks,
but still it saves thousands of life as a cardiac medicine!
Botulism toxin is the most toxic chemical on earth, yet it is used to clear wrinkles.
I forgot the name of that widely used anesthetic that is also a potent poison.
Everything is toxic, it only depends on the dose.
DNP will definitely not kill you if you are not a stupid dieter who thinks: "More is better".
"Rita Stanley" <rlst...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:gnrza.957906$F1.117730@sccrnsc04...
WoodTick
> > Is this true? Can anyone verify this? Has Bachnyski been asked if this is
> > true or not? I wouldn't want this said about me if it were false.
My computer keeps messing up, but as I said seconds ago before I got
knocked off, ARE YOU KIDDING??? Give me a break! Ask Bachynsky? For
real? You should sooner ask Sadam Hussein (or Uday) if they torture
people in Iraq; or ask Heidi from Survivor if she has fake tits; or
ask Bush if his daughters indulge.
Let me save you all the trouble.....YES, YES, YES.
I wouldn't want this said about me if it were TRUE either,
but..........WHICH PART?? That he killed people in Mexico? That the
government has issued a temporary restraining order against him in
Houston? That the bear was hibernating?
THEY'RE ALL TRUE! Except that part about why he left his
wife.....WER knows, I think. Maybe she'll come on this board and toss
things about. WER is the KEY to NB. Can anyone find her?