Does anyone know the difference between the WAP11 and WAP11 ver 2.2?
Chris Pallas
I found a WAP11 in a store the other day on discount. I know that the newer
version of the WAP11 is the ver 2.2. Is there any significant differences
between the two? Anything that a firmware upgrade can't fix?
TIA,
Chris
AJ
are bad no matter what firmware is used. When will good FW be released
for 2.2? Who knows.
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AJ
Panda Cam
http://www.sandiegozoo.org/special/pandas/pandacam/index.html
Hal Sadofsky
>
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I found a WAP11 in a store the other day on discount. I know that the newer
> >version of the WAP11 is the ver 2.2. Is there any significant differences
> >between the two? Anything that a firmware upgrade can't fix?
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> WAP11 versions 1.0/1.1 are great with FW 1.4i.1. WAP11 versions 2.2
> are bad no matter what firmware is used. When will good FW be released
> for 2.2? Who knows.
I'm actually having no problems since I started using firmware 1.010.
Of course maybe things would be still better if I had version 1 with
firmware 1.4i!
Hal
Chris Pallas
> are bad no matter what firmware is used. When will good FW be released
> for 2.2? Who knows.
So.. The WAP11 (with no version number after it) is the better WAP11 to
have then the WAP11 v 2.2? That's odd.
I was thinking about buying two WAP11's. One to use as an access point and
the other to use as a client. If you could only get one of the older
WAP11's, would you use it as the client or the access point? I would guess
the access point because that seems like a bigger job than in client mode.
Thanks again for the info!
Chris
AJ
You can get 1.0 or 1.1 all over the place. My local computer store has
many. It's been posted there are a lot on ebay, also.
AJ
>
>I'm actually having no problems since I started using firmware 1.010.
>Of course maybe things would be still better if I had version 1 with
>firmware 1.4i!
>
> Hal
You are lucky your cards connect, since many will not. It's also lucky
for you that you don't need anywhere near the coverage that's listed
on the box. You can change the output of versions 1.0/1.1 from 1-100
mW. With the 2.2 you are stuck with about 30mw, which will not cut it
for a large portion of WiFi users. ( 8 (0)
Hal Sadofsky
>
>
> >
> >I'm actually having no problems since I started using firmware 1.010.
> >Of course maybe things would be still better if I had version 1 with
> >firmware 1.4i!
> >
> > Hal
>
> You are lucky your cards connect, since many will not.
Yeah. Which cards won't connect besides linksys ones? My wap11s
connect to each other fine, and my airport card was perfectly happy
(once I figured out the magic code to put in the WEP key).
> It's also lucky
> for you that you don't need anywhere near the coverage that's listed
> on the box. You can change the output of versions 1.0/1.1 from 1-100
> mW. With the 2.2 you are stuck with about 30mw, which will not cut it
> for a large portion of WiFi users. ( 8 (0)
I've never really tested the coverage because I have directional
antennas on them anyhow.
Hal
Chris Pallas
> for you that you don't need anywhere near the coverage that's listed
> on the box. You can change the output of versions 1.0/1.1 from 1-100
> mW. With the 2.2 you are stuck with about 30mw, which will not cut it
> for a large portion of WiFi users. ( 8 (0)
What does this mean exactly? Cards connect? As in WAP11's? You can boost
the range of the early WAP11's, but not the newer one's? Is the output
change in the menu or is it a hack?
Also, you mentioned that many still have the version 1.0/1.1 in your store?
Is it a local store? How can you tell that you have a version 1.0 or 1.1 by
looking at the box? Does the 1.0 just have "WAP11" on the box as a model
number?
Are you telling me that I should look for two of the older models instead of
mix the version 1.0/1.1 with the version 2.2?
Thanks again.
Chris
Hal Sadofsky
>
> > You are lucky your cards connect, since many will not. It's also lucky
> > for you that you don't need anywhere near the coverage that's listed
> > on the box. You can change the output of versions 1.0/1.1 from 1-100
> > mW. With the 2.2 you are stuck with about 30mw, which will not cut it
> > for a large portion of WiFi users. ( 8 (0)
>
> What does this mean exactly? Cards connect? As in WAP11's? You can boost
> the range of the early WAP11's, but not the newer one's? Is the output
> change in the menu or is it a hack?
There is a hack to boost the output of the WAP11 v1 to 100 milliwatts.
I think they ship at aroundd 30 milliwatts, but it isn't as if it says
something like that in the documentation.
The hack doesn't work on the v2.2s. I have heard, but have no way of
verifying, that they also ship at 30 milliwatts of power (about). There seems to be no known way to adjust this.
On this forum, I've readh complaints about people having trouble
connecting to WAP11 v2.2s with certain wireless cards. I can't
remember which, and I don't know if these problems persist with the
1.010 firmware.
Hal
Kevin Webb
dialogue in tech forums that would indicate that. Nothing on the Linksys
data sheet about power output.
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AJ
>> You are lucky your cards connect, since many will not. It's also lucky
>> for you that you don't need anywhere near the coverage that's listed
>> on the box. You can change the output of versions 1.0/1.1 from 1-100
>> mW. With the 2.2 you are stuck with about 30mw, which will not cut it
>> for a large portion of WiFi users. ( 8 (0)
>
>What does this mean exactly? Cards connect?
At some point you might want to use it as an AP and some WiFi cards,
WPC11 v3.0 and some Symbol related cards among others, won't connect
using any current firmwares. Yes, some will but not all. Many of these
people have indepth computer knowledge. So others shouting "user
error" are off on this one. Linksys tells many customers now, that
they must buy another brand of card.
> As in WAP11's? You can boost
>the range of the early WAP11's, but not the newer one's?
Yes. It is a 100mW transmitter and you can change the settings from
1mw to 100mw on anny or all channels.
> Is the output
>change in the menu or is it a hack?
It's painless and only takes 5 minutes using free software. Just
raising the output 10mW can make a world of difference.
>Also, you mentioned that many still have the version 1.0/1.1 in your store?
>Is it a local store?
Yes, but they are everywhere.
> How can you tell that you have a version 1.0 or 1.1 by
>looking at the box? Does the 1.0 just have "WAP11" on the box as a model
>number?
The 2.2 boxes have the year 2002 in several places on the box. The
others do not.
>Are you telling me that I should look for two of the older models instead of
>mix the version 1.0/1.1 with the version 2.2?
I'm saying to avoid 2.2 at all costs. I would hope most reading this
will get another device.
>Thanks again.
>
>Chris
AJ
>I was under the impression 2.2 WAP11's shipped at 100 mW. Plenty of
>dialogue in tech forums that would indicate that. Nothing on the Linksys
>data sheet about power output.
>
The Linksys 2.2 PDF manual lists the output at 100mW. This is a flat
out lie. The FCC in the license lists it at 32mW. That explains all
the coverage complaints of that model.
The Linksys's website says the WAP11 has a power output of 20dBm. That
translates to 100mW.
DonChicago at DSLR writes:
"What Linksys appears to mean is that the WAP11 ver 2.2 has an EIRP of
100 milliwatts (20 dBm) at the 2.1 dBi antenna."
Chris Pallas
> WPC11 v3.0 and some Symbol related cards among others, won't connect
> using any current firmwares. Yes, some will but not all. Many of these
> people have indepth computer knowledge. So others shouting "user
> error" are off on this one. Linksys tells many customers now, that
> they must buy another brand of card.
Well.. I plan on buying WiFi cards and using the wireless function. When
you say WiFi cards, you mean a wireless client, correct? I'm getting lost
on the terminology being a relative newbie. Are you saying that the WAP11
only likes Linksys cards? Do you know what brands do connect with the
WAP11?
So far, I have a Linksys WUSB11 USB Client and a Orinoco USB Gold Client
that I'm trying out with a SMC7004AWBR router/wap. Both cards connect fine.
Are you saying that I will have more trouble with a WAP11?
Geez... It seems like all of this stuff is trial and error and like a big
ole' jigsaw puzzle.
Thanks again.
Chris
Chris Pallas
> WPC11 v3.0 and some Symbol related cards among others, won't connect
> using any current firmwares. Yes, some will but not all. Many of these
> people have indepth computer knowledge. So others shouting "user
> error" are off on this one. Linksys tells many customers now, that
> they must buy another brand of card.
Wow.. You are basically saying that the new Linksys WAP11 v 2.2 is junk
then. I know what you mean by getting your cards to connect now. I thought
you were talking about the WAP11's being cards. I see that you were saying
that you find it surprising that Hal got any client cards to connect.
I'll tell you one thing. I know of a guy that just bought a Linksys WAP11 v
2.2 and a D-Link PCI Wireless card and it works fine for him. It works so
well that I decided to look into the WAP11 myself.
> > Is the output
> >change in the menu or is it a hack?
>
> It's painless and only takes 5 minutes using free software. Just
> raising the output 10mW can make a world of difference.
If it's easy, I'm all for it. Do you have any links on where I can find the
software and how to do it? They locked out the new v. 2.2's?
> > How can you tell that you have a version 1.0 or 1.1 by
> >looking at the box? Does the 1.0 just have "WAP11" on the box as a model
> >number?
>
> The 2.2 boxes have the year 2002 in several places on the box. The
> others do not.
I know how to identify a v 2.2. That's all I pretty much see at the stores
now. I just wanted to know if there was a way to identify the 1.0 from the
1.1. Does the 1.1 have the "1.1" after the model number Linksys WAP11? The
package that I saw simply had the "WAP11" written on the box without a
version after it and the box was green and orange instead of the newer boxes
that are green and blue.
> I'm saying to avoid 2.2 at all costs. I would hope most reading this
> will get another device.
Wow! That's some advice. It sounds like you think the v 2.2 is total junk.
Thanks again.
Chris
Kevin Webb
mW, just didn't care enough to dig deeper on their site beyond the pdf data
sheet. Hard to imagine they're advertising a bogus power output. Perhaps,
but that would be extremely ballsy. My guess would be that the FCC
information is in regard to the original version of the WAP11. Frankly it
doesn't matter one way or the other since I don't have the product and don't
have any intent on purchasing. just an interesting story if they are
actually shorting their customers like that.
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AJ
>> At some point you might want to use it as an AP and some WiFi cards,
>> WPC11 v3.0 and some Symbol related cards among others, won't connect
>> using any current firmwares. Yes, some will but not all. Many of these
>> people have indepth computer knowledge. So others shouting "user
>> error" are off on this one. Linksys tells many customers now, that
>> they must buy another brand of card.
>
>Wow.. You are basically saying that the new Linksys WAP11 v 2.2 is junk
>then. I know what you mean by getting your cards to connect now. I thought
>you were talking about the WAP11's being cards. I see that you were saying
>that you find it surprising that Hal got any client cards to connect.
>
>I'll tell you one thing. I know of a guy that just bought a Linksys WAP11 v
>2.2 and a D-Link PCI Wireless card and it works fine for him. It works so
>well that I decided to look into the WAP11 myself.
>
He might have zero security even with WEP enabled. People believe they
are secure until a friend stops by and starts surfing the web without
any special log ons or knowing any passwords.
>> > Is the output
>> >change in the menu or is it a hack?
>>
>> It's painless and only takes 5 minutes using free software. Just
>> raising the output 10mW can make a world of difference.
>
>If it's easy, I'm all for it. Do you have any links on where I can find the
>software and how to do it?
http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/Wap11Hack
http://www.wi2600.org/mediawhore/nf0/wireless/docs/802.11/WAP11/fun_with_the_wap11.txt
http://www.maokhian.com/wireless/wap11.txt
> They locked out the new v. 2.2's?
No one has posted a way to change the output.
>
>> > How can you tell that you have a version 1.0 or 1.1 by
>> >looking at the box? Does the 1.0 just have "WAP11" on the box as a model
>> >number?
>>
>> The 2.2 boxes have the year 2002 in several places on the box. The
>> others do not.
>
>I know how to identify a v 2.2. That's all I pretty much see at the stores
>now. I just wanted to know if there was a way to identify the 1.0 from the
>1.1. Does the 1.1 have the "1.1" after the model number Linksys WAP11? The
>package that I saw simply had the "WAP11" written on the box without a
>version after it and the box was green and orange instead of the newer boxes
>that are green and blue.
1.0 and 1.1 are so close to being the same, it doesn't matter. They
are basically the same. 2.2 uses an entirely new chipset. only the box
and antennas are the same.
>> I'm saying to avoid 2.2 at all costs. I would hope most reading this
>> will get another device.
>
>Wow! That's some advice. It sounds like you think the v 2.2 is total junk.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Chris
>
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Hal Sadofsky
>
>
>
> >> At some point you might want to use it as an AP and some WiFi cards,
> >> WPC11 v3.0 and some Symbol related cards among others, won't connect
> >> using any current firmwares. Yes, some will but not all. Many of these
> >> people have indepth computer knowledge. So others shouting "user
> >> error" are off on this one. Linksys tells many customers now, that
> >> they must buy another brand of card.
> >
> >Wow.. You are basically saying that the new Linksys WAP11 v 2.2 is junk
> >then. I know what you mean by getting your cards to connect now. I thought
> >you were talking about the WAP11's being cards. I see that you were saying
> >that you find it surprising that Hal got any client cards to connect.
> >
> >I'll tell you one thing. I know of a guy that just bought a Linksys WAP11 v
> >2.2 and a D-Link PCI Wireless card and it works fine for him. It works so
> >well that I decided to look into the WAP11 myself.
> >
> He might have zero security even with WEP enabled. People believe they
> are secure until a friend stops by and starts surfing the web without
> any special log ons or knowing any passwords.
Do you know of cases where someone has enabled WEP on a v 2.2 with
relatively recent firmware and found that it wasn't really running? I
haven't heard of this. It certainly doesn't match my (admittedly
limited) experience.
Also, I've read about people having trouble with a particular card and
the WAP11 v2.2 under early firmware. But I don't know examples where
people have been unable to use a specific WIFI card with firwmware
1.010. Have you had such an experience or read about it? Which cards?
Hal
AJ
>
>Do you know of cases where someone has enabled WEP on a v 2.2 with
>relatively recent firmware and found that it wasn't really running?
Yes.
>Also, I've read about people having trouble with a particular card and
>the WAP11 v2.2 under early firmware. But I don't know examples where
>people have been unable to use a specific WIFI card with firwmware
>1.010. Have you had such an experience or read about it? Which cards?
>
WPC11 V3.0 and Symbol cards. Compaq uses that chipset and some other
manufacturers. I have dozens of emails from people who can't connect
WPC11 V3.0 cards, no matter what. . The beta firmware updates have
been an improvement but only help some cases. If you call their tech
support there is a good chance the tech will say you must buy another
type of card. They denied that for months but have finally caught
on.The latest firmware on their site does not allow ESSID to be turned
off, or no cards connect. Some can't even log on to secure sites
without turning off WEP.
--------------------------------
AJ
http://www.dslreports.com/information/media
Hal Sadofsky
>
>
> >
> >Do you know of cases where someone has enabled WEP on a v 2.2 with
> >relatively recent firmware and found that it wasn't really running?
>
> Yes.
Which firmware?
> >Also, I've read about people having trouble with a particular card and
> >the WAP11 v2.2 under early firmware. But I don't know examples where
> >people have been unable to use a specific WIFI card with firwmware
> >1.010. Have you had such an experience or read about it? Which cards?
> >
>
> WPC11 V3.0 and Symbol cards. Compaq uses that chipset and some other
> manufacturers. I have dozens of emails from people who can't connect
> WPC11 V3.0 cards, no matter what. . The beta firmware updates have
> been an improvement but only help some cases. If you call their tech
> support there is a good chance the tech will say you must buy another
> type of card. They denied that for months but have finally caught
> on.The latest firmware on their site does not allow ESSID to be turned
> off, or no cards connect. Some can't even log on to secure sites
> without turning off WEP.
The latest firmware on their site, however, seems to be 1.01c, which
is not a real improvement over 1.009. Certainly 1.010 (which I'm
using) allows SSID to be turned off.
The WPC11 are also the cards I've seen complaints about too. Absurd that
they don't work with WAP11s since they are also linksys cards.
The other ridiculous thing about them (Linksys) is that they aren't
making the 1.010 firmware available on their website. It seems to fix
security related problems at least, though I don't know about the
problem with WPC11s. The 1.01c (most recent firmware on the website)
seems to address no real issues at all. I remember reading somewhere
that 1.01g (unlike 1.01c) actually fixed some problems too - but it is
also unavailable from their website.
Hal
IVAN KORSHUN
than WAP11 ver 1.1/1.0
-Ivan
Rod Holland
Currently using the WAP11 v2.2 with my linksys dual access point with no
problems. Range is great (i.e. solid connection throught-out my three story
house). In fact, I also have the 5 GHz (802.11a) pc card and get better
performance and range from the WAP11 v2.2 than from the 802.11a pc card when
alternating between the two on my Toshiba 1955-S801 laptop. Very pleased
with the WAP11 v2.2. But have to admit, I have only used as a client so far
and not as access point. The WEP feature or rather secuirty is not a major
concern on mine since I live in a very rural area. Nevertherless, my step
step is to test the WEP functionality and determine for myself whether the
functionality works as precribe by Linksys.
Rod
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Chris Pallas
> >relatively recent firmware and found that it wasn't really running?
>
> Yes.
FWIW.. I bought a Linksys WUSB11 v 2.6 usb client to test out. The client
works fine with my SMC7004AWBR router/wap when WEP is disabled, but as soon
as I try enabling encryption, it doesn't work. I know that this is
different than the WAP11. I just had a similar problem.
I just got an email back from Linksys and they told me to use the WET11 in
infrastructure mode instead of the WAP11 as a client because it's more
stable. The tech didn't elaborate on my other questions. I guess I'll have
to call their 800 number.
Oh.. She did say that the differences between the older WAP11 and the
version 2.2 is that the version 2.2 has USB ports and an onscreen menu. No
mention of the range. ;) Of course, she wouldn't tell me that. ;)
I don't know what to do here. I have a couple of Linksys WAP11's (1 early
version and 1 v. 2.2). My original plan was to use the SMC7004AWBR
router/wap and then connect to the remote area with USB clients (Orinoco USB
Gold Client and Linksys WUSB11 v 2.6), but now I like the idea of running a
remote access point as a client and running it to a switch for other wired
pc's.
Should I dump the SMC7004AWBR and usb client cards in favor of a set of
WAP11's? Should I keep the old version WAP11 and then grab a WET11 like
Linksys suggests? If I use a wireless access point, I'm going to need a
router. Any suggestions for a good router (without a built in wap)? Any
other suggestions?
Thanks so much again.
Chris
Hal Sadofsky
>
> > >Do you know of cases where someone has enabled WEP on a v 2.2 with
> > >relatively recent firmware and found that it wasn't really running?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> FWIW.. I bought a Linksys WUSB11 v 2.6 usb client to test out. The client
> works fine with my SMC7004AWBR router/wap when WEP is disabled, but as soon
> as I try enabling encryption, it doesn't work. I know that this is
> different than the WAP11. I just had a similar problem.
>
> I just got an email back from Linksys and they told me to use the WET11 in
> infrastructure mode instead of the WAP11 as a client because it's more
> stable. The tech didn't elaborate on my other questions. I guess I'll have
> to call their 800 number.
But does using the WET11 in infrastructure mode address your needs
(i.e., can you do that without plugging it into your LAN)? I don't
know what the WET11 does, so I'm just curious.
> Oh.. She did say that the differences between the older WAP11 and the
> version 2.2 is that the version 2.2 has USB ports and an onscreen menu. No
> mention of the range. ;) Of course, she wouldn't tell me that. ;)
No, she wouldn't. But you also have to realize people who are
complaining about the range of the v1 vs. the v2.2 are comparing the
v1 that has been hacked to 100 milliwatts with the stock v2.2.
Unfortunately, no one here knows a way of hacking the v2.2 to 100
milliwatts if necessary.
> I don't know what to do here. I have a couple of Linksys WAP11's (1 early
> version and 1 v. 2.2). My original plan was to use the SMC7004AWBR
> router/wap and then connect to the remote area with USB clients (Orinoco USB
> Gold Client and Linksys WUSB11 v 2.6), but now I like the idea of running a
> remote access point as a client and running it to a switch for other wired
> pc's.
>
> Should I dump the SMC7004AWBR and usb client cards in favor of a set of
> WAP11's? Should I keep the old version WAP11 and then grab a WET11 like
> Linksys suggests? If I use a wireless access point, I'm going to need a
> router. Any suggestions for a good router (without a built in wap)? Any
> other suggestions?
>
> Thanks so much again.
Just keep us posted as to your experiences once you start trying things!
Hal
Chris Pallas
> (i.e., can you do that without plugging it into your LAN)? I don't
> know what the WET11 does, so I'm just curious.
Yes.. According to the tech, the WET11 does have infrastructure mode and
that's what she suggested setting it to for my application. She said it
would be more stable than using a WAP11 in client mode.
> No, she wouldn't. But you also have to realize people who are
> complaining about the range of the v1 vs. the v2.2 are comparing the
> v1 that has been hacked to 100 milliwatts with the stock v2.2.
> Unfortunately, no one here knows a way of hacking the v2.2 to 100
> milliwatts if necessary.
I don't think she would either. Get this. I posted the differences in the
networking forums at Anandtech and someone replied saying that the new
version 2.2 is 100mW out of the box, where the older one has to be hacked to
get 100mW. He also said that Administration via the web was so much easier
than SNMP, which also happened to be riddled with security flaws. He
wouldn't touch a WAP11 that wasn't a version 2.2.
When I see stuff like this, I don't know what to believe being a relative
newbie to wireless networking.
> Just keep us posted as to your experiences once you start trying things!
Will do. I think I will just keep the SMC router/wap because I got a
fantastic price on it ($69 after rebate shipped, no tax). It's almost as
cheap as a regular "wired" router. As long as I can disable the built in
WAP and hook up the WAP11 to it, I think I'll keep it. I can always use it
later as a standalone router/wap.
I think I will return the Orinoco because I really didn't get a deal on it
and I can just rebuy it later. I don't even think I'll need a USB client if
I get the network set up the way I want.
Chris
AJ
>
>Should I dump the SMC7004AWBR and usb client cards in favor of a set of
>WAP11's? Should I keep the old version WAP11 and then grab a WET11 like
>Linksys suggests?
Many people are unhappy with the WET11. Most if not all are shipping
with sleep mode. Others say they are too quirky. No matter what you
get make sure the store has a good return policy, just in case. Some
people get 2.2's and WET11's and are satisfied. The trouble is many
are not .
> If I use a wireless access point, I'm going to need a
>router. Any suggestions for a good router (without a built in wap)? Any
>other suggestions?
>
I have the award winning Linksys 4 port DSL/cable router and it's
great. For under $80 it is a super deal.
http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.asp?grid=23&prid=20
>Thanks so much again.
>
>Chris
>
>
Chris Pallas
> with sleep mode. Others say they are too quirky. No matter what you
> get make sure the store has a good return policy, just in case. Some
> people get 2.2's and WET11's and are satisfied. The trouble is many
> are not .
Linksys support is so screwed. I just got done talking to someone that
started off saying that I needed the WET11 and then when I got done talking
to him about the set up that I want, he admitted that I didn't need it. He
also told me that I needed 3 WAP11's at one point. He also said that it's a
toss up whether the SMC router/wap will work with the WAP11 set up in client
mode in the remote room. I'm going to try it anyway.
Heh.. I asked him frankly about the output adjustment on the older models
and he couldn't answer that. He couldn't even tell me what the true output
was on the version 2.2. He didn't have any documentation on that. ;)
> > If I use a wireless access point, I'm going to need a
> >router. Any suggestions for a good router (without a built in wap)? Any
> >other suggestions?
> >
> I have the award winning Linksys 4 port DSL/cable router and it's
> great. For under $80 it is a super deal.
>
> http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.asp?grid=23&prid=20
Heh.. Figures. I got some super prices on Linksys stuff recently on
closeout at Office Depot and sold that router to a friend because I already
had the SMC router/wap. I think I'll just keep my SMC7004AWBR. It's a
highly rated router as well and I only paid $69 shipped after rebate, no
tax. That's cheaper than the $80 Linksys router and I have a wap to boot in
case I ever want to use it as a router/wap.
Thanks again.
Chris
Hal Sadofsky
>
> > But does using the WET11 in infrastructure mode address your needs
> > (i.e., can you do that without plugging it into your LAN)? I don't
> > know what the WET11 does, so I'm just curious.
>
> Yes.. According to the tech, the WET11 does have infrastructure mode and
> that's what she suggested setting it to for my application. She said it
> would be more stable than using a WAP11 in client mode.
>
> > No, she wouldn't. But you also have to realize people who are
> > complaining about the range of the v1 vs. the v2.2 are comparing the
> > v1 that has been hacked to 100 milliwatts with the stock v2.2.
> > Unfortunately, no one here knows a way of hacking the v2.2 to 100
> > milliwatts if necessary.
>
> I don't think she would either. Get this. I posted the differences in the
> networking forums at Anandtech and someone replied saying that the new
> version 2.2 is 100mW out of the box, where the older one has to be hacked to
> get 100mW.
This is a claim others have made. I haven't heard this claim from anyone
who has actually measured though.
> He also said that Administration via the web was so much easier
> than SNMP,
This I do believe. Plus, you don't have to be running windows.
> which also happened to be riddled with security flaws. He
> wouldn't touch a WAP11 that wasn't a version 2.2.
>
> When I see stuff like this, I don't know what to believe being a relative
> newbie to wireless networking.
Well, we've all had different experiences. Read the linksys group at
dslreports.com too, and you'll get more (non-unanimous) opinions.
Hal
Fabio Muzzi
sado...@darkwing.uoregon.edu says...
> The hack doesn't work on the v2.2s. I have heard, but have no way of
> verifying, that they also ship at 30 milliwatts of power (about).
> There seems to be no known way to adjust this.
Yes, and coverage sucks.
> On this forum, I've readh complaints about people having trouble
> connecting to WAP11 v2.2s with certain wireless cards. I can't
> remember which, and I don't know if these problems persist with the
> 1.010 firmware.
Some Linksys cards (!!), Symbol wlan card with wep enabled, 3com with
ssid broadcast disabled.
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Hal Sadofsky
>
> In article <pl9wuon...@darkwing.uoregon.edu>,
> sado...@darkwing.uoregon.edu says...
>
>
> > The hack doesn't work on the v2.2s. I have heard, but have no way of
> > verifying, that they also ship at 30 milliwatts of power (about).
> > There seems to be no known way to adjust this.
>
> Yes, and coverage sucks.
>
> > On this forum, I've readh complaints about people having trouble
> > connecting to WAP11 v2.2s with certain wireless cards. I can't
> > remember which, and I don't know if these problems persist with the
> > 1.010 firmware.
>
> Some Linksys cards (!!), Symbol wlan card with wep enabled, 3com with
> ssid broadcast disabled.
With the beta 1.010 firmware?
AJ
>
>With the beta 1.010 firmware?
YES.
Hal Sadofsky
>
>
> >
> >With the beta 1.010 firmware?
>
> YES.
I'm just trying to find out what people know - there are so many
firmware versions out there.
I searched google groups under linksys+1.010+symbol and came up with
three entries. One is in this thread, one is from September and is
asking for the 1.010 firmware, and one is from August and says his
symbol card does work, badly, but with WEP, with the 1.010 firmware
(but can't get a DHCP lease).
I couldn't find anything about the 3com cards with the 1.010. Or for
that matter about the WPC cards with firmware 1.010.
Mind you, I have no experience myself with any of these things, so I
can't contradict you, I'm just trying to understand how many bugs are
left in the beta 1.010 firmware.
AJ
Krustyvt, moderater at betatesters.com writes:
WAP11 2.2 - Detailed Problem List! => SOLUTIONS!
I just spoke to Linksys tech support and relayed a detailed list of
problems that we are having with the WAP11 2.2. I know they are
definitely problems with the 2.2 because if we place a 1.0 in the
position of the 2.2, everything works fine. I'll go ahead and detail
the list below, please feel free to add to it!
EDIT: All of our client adapters are Orinoco Gold PCMCIA cards -
These are the problems we have encountered so far on our wireless
network that utilizes (4) WAP11 2.2's:
1) Wireless clients are only able to ping the access point that the
client is currently associated with. Ping requests to other access
points come back as "timed out". [UPDATE: NOT fixed with new beta
firmware 1.010! When only one access point was updated with the new
beta firmware and the rest were running 1.009, I could ping every
access point while associated with the upgraded AP. Now that all AP's
are upgraded to 1.010, we are back to our original situation where we
can only ping the AP the client is associated with!]
2) Encryption in general is broken .. both these problems were
immediately fixed when encryption was toggled OFF - read subpoints
below.
[UPDATE: BOTH issues below are fixed if you change the "Transmission
Rates" option on the WAP11 to "1-2 Mbps" instead of "1-2-5.5-11 Mbps".
If you leave the Transmission Rates option at "1-2-5.5-11 Mbps" but
change your Orinoco Gold driver to the Spring 2001 release (Before
they implemented the fragmented packets encryption change .. see other
post) issue 2A is resolved but issue 2B is not.]
[UPDATE #2: Anyone having problems with encryption between the WAP11
and the Orinoco Gold card should try this! The Orinoco Gold driver
fragments encrypted packets (INCORRECTLY!) being transmitted at 11
Mbps at 564 bytes. Edit the registry (Using DrTCP) and set the MTU for
your wireless card to 540. This will cause Windows to fragment the
packet itself at 540 bytes, and it will never hit the limit to be
fragmented by the Orinoco driver. It took 8 hours of testing today,
and this solution resolved BOTH problems listed below! Orinoco has
been notified of the problem with their driver ...]
2A) With encryption turned on, users are unable to login into any
website that requires a username and password. After submitting the
login information, the connection simply sits there with no response
from the remote website.
2B) You are unable to spool any wireless print job with encryption
enabled. Jobs will eventually error out after a period of one or two
minutes. No data is ever transmitted to the remote printer, and the
remote printer never acknowledges any kind of job.
3) MAC Address Authentication does not work .. period. I removed a
client's address from the table, and then disabled and re-enabled the
wireless connection. The connection established fine, and data was
being transmitted normally.
[UPDATE: Fixed with new beta firmware 1.010!]
It is clear that there are definitely some issues between Linksys
WAP11 2.2 AP's and Orinoco Gold client adapter cards. The latest
driver release from Orinoco seems to break some features, or at the
very least, change some things that Linksys will also need to modify
in order for these products to work together.
-=K=-