Wives of Geoffrey I of Anjou
Matman
Apologies if this has already been covered before.
Geoffrey I Grisegonelle (Greycloak) married twice:
1. Adela of Vermandois, dau of Robert of Troyes/Meaux (d. fl. 967)
She died in 974. She was the mother of Fulk the Black etc.
2. Adelaide, widow of Lambert of Chalons (d.978). By her he
had a son called Maurice.
Now ES II, 49 seems to have Adelaide as the daughter of Giselbert
of Chalons etc, marrying first Robert, then Lambert (d.979),
then Geoffrey; and Adela marrying Lambert (d.978) then Geoffrey.
Which would mean Adela married both her stepfathers.
So my question is: who was the mother of Adela, and what is the
correct order of these marriages?
Matt
Alan B. Wilson
The mother of Adela of Vermandois was Adelaide of Burgundy who was
later to marry her son-in-law, Geoffrey Greymantle.
The *approximate* dates of the marriages are (all from ES):
950 Robert of Meaux and Troyes m. Adelaide of Burgundy
965 Geoffrey Greymantle m. Adele of Vermandois
967 Lambert of Chalon-sur-Saone m. Adelaide of Burgundy
979 Geoffrey Greymantle m. Adelaide of Burgundy
In addition to ES iii, 49 see ii, 189 [rev. in iii(1)], and iii, 116
and 433.
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Alan B. Wilson
abwi...@uclink2.berkeley.edu
D. Spencer Hines
At 04:08 AM 4/19/97 +0000, you wrote:
<snip>
> The mother of Adela of Vermandois was Adelaide of Burgundy who was
>later to marry her son-in-law, Geoffrey Greymantle.
>
> The *approximate* dates of the marriages are (all from ES):
>
>950 Robert of Meaux and Troyes m. Adelaide of Burgundy
>965 Geoffrey Greymantle m. Adele of Vermandois
>967 Lambert of Chalon-sur-Saone m. Adelaide of Burgundy
>979 Geoffrey Greymantle m. Adelaide of Burgundy
>
> In addition to ES iii, 49 see ii, 189 [rev. in iii(1)], and iii, 116
>and 433.
>
>--
>Alan B. Wilson
>abwi...@uclink2.berkeley.edu
What relationship, if any, do you hold between this Adelaide of Burgundy
and the Adelaide of Burgundy who was reportedly the daughter of Rudolf I of
Burgundy and Wila (I)?
I'd appreciate the links in the genealogical chain between them, if they
exist, and you have them.
Merci beaucoup.
D. Spencer Hines----"City life breeds a mass mind 'hostile to reason,
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(1996), p. 39
Alan B. Wilson
>At 04:08 AM 4/19/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> The mother of Adela of Vermandois was Adelaide of Burgundy who was
>>later to marry her son-in-law, Geoffrey Greymantle.
>>
>> The *approximate* dates of the marriages are (all from ES):
>>
>>950 Robert of Meaux and Troyes m. Adelaide of Burgundy
>>965 Geoffrey Greymantle m. Adele of Vermandois
>>967 Lambert of Chalon-sur-Saone m. Adelaide of Burgundy
>>979 Geoffrey Greymantle m. Adelaide of Burgundy
>>
>> In addition to ES iii, 49 see ii, 189 [rev. in iii(1)], and iii, 116
>>and 433.
>>
>>--
>>Alan B. Wilson
>>abwi...@uclink2.berkeley.edu
>
>
>What relationship, if any, do you hold between this Adelaide of Burgundy
>and the Adelaide of Burgundy who was reportedly the daughter of Rudolf I of
>Burgundy and Wila (I)?
>
>I'd appreciate the links in the genealogical chain between them, if they
>exist, and you have them.
>
>Merci beaucoup.
>
>
>D. Spencer Hines
The only relationship between these two Adelaides of
Burgundy that I am aware of is a remote link by marriage. It
can be seen in Schwennicke (ed.) Europaische Stammtafeln ii, 189
[rev. in iii(1)].
Louis III Bosonides, king of Provence, Italy, and the Roman
Empire, who first married Anna of Byzantium, married secondly
Adelheid of Burgundy, dau. of King Rudolf I and Willa. Buvinus,
Count of Metz, was grandfather to this Louis III, and
great-grandfather to the Adelaide of Burgundy who made the three
marriages to Robert of Meaux and Troyes, Lambert of
Chalon-sur-Saone, and Geoffrey Greymantle which were the
original subject of discussion.
The immediate ancestry of Adelaide, dau. of Rudolf I can be
found in ES i, 57. For some reason which I do not know she has
been dropped from the largely redundant table in ES iii, 736.
(But you can find more Adelaides of Burgundy to pique your
curiosity.)