Ethernet Card Recommendations?
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KC5TJA
Sorry for the last post -- my newsreader wasn't configured to post with an
external editor.
I currently do not have an Amiga, but am seriously considering getting back
into the Amiga software development market after a six year lapse. My last
Amiga was an A500, and am planning on purchasing an A4000T with an Ethernet
card. Due to my lapse, however, and with everything in the Amiga community
changing so fast, I don't know one card from another anymore. *embarrasing
grin* So with that in mind, what 10-base-T Ethernet card is recommended?
Are any 100-base-T cards available as well? Switchable 10/100-base-T?
About how much do that cost, and where can I go to find them?
I'd also appreciate it if some of you could please respond to this little
questionaire I've whipped up off the top of my head, preferably via e-mail.
Like I said: I'm planning on commercially developing Amiga software again,
to provide for additional income for rent, and saving up for a car and
college education (I only have 1 year of college -- can't afford any more...
:( ).
1) What kind of software would you like to see available for the Amiga?
2) How much would you be willing to pay for such software?
3) If freely available and downloadable software is preferred, would you be
willing to pay for a technical support contract? If so, what kind of
technical support packages would you be looking for? NOTE: THIS BUSINESS
MODEL IS NOT SUITABLE FOR ALL TYPES OF SOFTWARE, especially for a one-man
company such as myself -- but I'm open to options and suggestions.
4) Is there a need/desire for an integrated web page authoring tool for the
Amiga?
5) How many people are willing to use Amigas in either an:
a) Internet Service Provider, as one of the main servers (web,
e-mail, etc?), or
b) Corporate Server Environment, where it provides web and mail
services privately to a local organization?
6) How many people see the need for an integrated web server/e-mail
server/FTP server suite, not entirely unlike IIS under Windows NT? (Only
better! ;) )
7) What C compiler and assembler is recommended for commercial grade
software development? How much does such packages cost, and where can I
find them? :)
8) What magazines and/or trade publications do you recommend I advertise in?
Roughly how much does it cost to do so?
Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions above.
John P
We need a VIABLE alternative to SAMBA!
The market would be huge. Think of how many Toaster/Flyer owners
need to share files with both other Amigas and PC's. Besides that,
most people have more than one computer in their home.
NewTek has been pushing Flyer owners toward ethernet HARD lately.
They need a good network solution to satisfy all the people they have
convinced that this is a solution.
For the most part, I don't even think that security is an issue. If you
target
the video market and home market, all they want to do is mount remote
drives and share files. Massive security could be saved for the very few
who want to use their Amiga in an unsecure area.
The problem with samba is that hardly anyone can install it. The
installation
is copying files to odd places, configuring cryptic text files by hand with
only
the slightest of linux documentation. This should be able to figure out or
atleast
ask for your IP address, then with a GUI allow you to pick which drives to
mount
and share, machine name, workgroup, etc.
The Amigas should show up in a Windows Network Neighborhood without
a fuss. Maybe an "Amiga Neighborhood" on the Amiga also?
Mounted drives should be accessable as a real volume, i.e. "NH0:"
This would be worth $100 easy to me. $200 would not make me upset. IF it
worked well. Meaning easy to set up, stable and FAST. This is a MUST
have Amiga soft.
John Perkins
Matrix Video
2 Flyers and 3 PC's half a$$ networked through samba
*Team AMIGA*
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Swiftshadow
>
> Sorry for the last post -- my newsreader wasn't configured to post with an
> external editor.
>
> I currently do not have an Amiga, but am seriously considering getting back
> into the Amiga software development market after a six year lapse. My last
> Amiga was an A500, and am planning on purchasing an A4000T with an Ethernet
> card. Due to my lapse, however, and with everything in the Amiga community
> changing so fast, I don't know one card from another anymore. *embarrasing
> grin* So with that in mind, what 10-base-T Ethernet card is recommended?
> Are any 100-base-T cards available as well? Switchable 10/100-base-T?
> About how much do that cost, and where can I go to find them?
Welcome back. Now as far as an Ethernet card, there are several
options open. First the bad news. There are no 100 BaseT cards
available for the Amiga. A 100 BaseT Ethernet card would probably
require:
a) a Zorro III bus. Zorro II maxes out somewhere in the 2.5Meg/sec,
much to slow to take advantage of 100 BaseT. Good Zorro III
implementations (as in the Picasso IV, CyberVision 64) can reach
around 14-16megs a second.
b) DMA. Current Amiga cards are CPU driven, with the CPU transferring
the data to/from the card. Even with an 060 machine, this would push
the load on your machine to 100%, and you probably wouldn't be getting
near the theoretical 100 megabits. So DMA is probably a necessity.
As far as I know, no manufacturer is thinking about making even a
Zorro III card, much less DMA 100 BaseT card.
As far as 10 BaseT cards, here is the current lineup. Most of this
information has been gathered by Holger Kruse of Miami & ReOrg fame.
(All of the performance numbers are based on a Mark III 060 based
machine with Miami's custom drivers.).
The best card for the Amiga is the A4066. This card does 900-950K/s.
Problem is that the board is no longer available new, and the few
people that have it are not selling them.
Another good card is that Ariadne, by VillageTronic. This one can
still be found at many Amiga mail order stores. However, it has been
discontinued by the manufacturer. Performance is around 750K/s.
The A2065 card is also a decent performer. The card is old, but it
still performs well. Can not be found anywhere but in the used market.
Performance is similar to the Ariadne at 750K/s.
The Connexion board is virtual clone of the A2065 and it uses the
A2065 drivers. Performance is the same. There are reports, however,
that the card will not function with some versions of the A2065 SANA
II driver.
Another option is finding a GoldenGate II board and putting an ISA
Ethernet board. Performance is similar to the Ariadne, A2065 and
Connexion at around 750k/s.
There are other boards, but for the most part you probably should
stay away from them for various reasons.
The Hydra Amiganet: people have reported various problems and *SLOW*
throughput, especially in connection with cable modems. For others
the card seems to work fine.
The LanRover EB920: Very old board, with only 10 Base 2 available
(although this should be fixable with a transceiver). There have been
reports that some boards did not come shipped with a MAC (Media Access
Controller) EPROM, which could make configuration difficult.
Performance is around 670K/s reading 820K/s writing.
QuickNet 2000: This board has some design problems that could lead to
very poor performance.
In brighter news, VillageTronic (of Picasso II/IV fame) are supposed
to be comming out with a new, cost reduced version of the Ariadne some
time this fall. Performance is probably going to be as good or better
than the old Ariadne.
> I'd also appreciate it if some of you could please respond to this little
> questionaire I've whipped up off the top of my head, preferably via e-mail.
> Like I said: I'm planning on commercially developing Amiga software again,
> to provide for additional income for rent, and saving up for a car and
> college education (I only have 1 year of college -- can't afford any more...
> :( ).
>
> 1) What kind of software would you like to see available for the Amiga?
As has been mentioned before, an Amiga-nized version of Samba would be
a godsend. Samba is powerful system, but its configuration is somwhat
daunting. A better interface for Samba could do for Samba what Miami
did TCP/IP & Internet access.
> 2) How much would you be willing to pay for such software?
Somewhere in the neighborhood of $45-$100.
> 3) If freely available and downloadable software is preferred, would you be
> willing to pay for a technical support contract? If so, what kind of
> technical support packages would you be looking for? NOTE: THIS BUSINESS
> MODEL IS NOT SUITABLE FOR ALL TYPES OF SOFTWARE, especially for a one-man
> company such as myself -- but I'm open to options and suggestions.
Well I would prefer a downloadable method at least for updates. Having
to wait for shipment when it could be gotten in seconds over the net
seems like a step backwards.
> 4) Is there a need/desire for an integrated web page authoring tool for the
> Amiga?
Hmm... I personally would prefer something more along the lines of a
video conferencing tool for the Amiga. I know that getting something
*the* RealPlayer ported is a long shot, but there are other protocols
out there. 2 way audio/video communication over the Internet would be
great to have.
> 5) How many people are willing to use Amigas in either an:
> a) Internet Service Provider, as one of the main servers (web,
> e-mail, etc?), or
> b) Corporate Server Environment, where it provides web and mail
> services privately to a local organization?
Not really applicable to me, although a local web server would be nice
to have to post pages on my internal 3 computer LAN at my apartment.
But its not a very driving need. I would still opt for Samba and video
conferencing.
> 6) How many people see the need for an integrated web server/e-mail
> server/FTP server suite, not entirely unlike IIS under Windows NT? (Only
> better! ;) )
I couldn't see using it right now, but I do see it has high potential
> 7) What C compiler and assembler is recommended for commercial grade
> software development? How much does such packages cost, and where can I
> find them? :)
There is only 1 commercial C compiler still supported and that is
StormC, by Haage&Partner.
> 8) What magazines and/or trade publications do you recommend I advertise in?
> Roughly how much does it cost to do so?
I believe that you're appealing to a relatively small portion of
computer users in general and an even smaller number of Amiga users. A
more targetted approach, such as advertising on well traveled Internet
related Amiga sites (Nordic Global makers of Miami or Vaporware,
makers of Voyager, AmFTP, AmIRC etc... ) would probably serve you
better. As to how much such advertisement would cost... I have no real
idea. The makers of the Prelude Sound card have used this same
approach, advertising on the AmigaAMP page.
> Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions above.
You're welcome. Hope this helps.
Carlos
Rhett R. Rodewald
JP> We need a VIABLE alternative to SAMBA!
There are:
==========
1) Siamese allows PC drives to be accessed from the Amiga.
2) Amiga Forever allows Amiga Drives to be accessed from PC
3) There is another networking kit (can't recall the name, but I think its
produced by weird science.)
4) Samba works quite well. It could have a nicer front end.
5) There is also software for Amiga<->Amiga networks (i.e. Envoy)
6) And finally there is a Netware client for the Amiga
JP> The market would be huge. Think of how many Toaster/Flyer owners
I think the Flyer has its own networking built-in. (still needs the hardware)
_Huge_ is an adjective that I don't think applies to the Amiga market, and
even less so to the Toaster/Flyer market. You may get a good percentage of
the market with a good product, but it's not a huge market to begin with.
JP> The problem with samba is that hardly anyone can install it. The
JP> installation
JP> is copying files to odd places, configuring cryptic text files by hand
JP> with only the slightest of linux documentation. This should be able to
JP> figure out or atleast ask for your IP address, then with a GUI allow you
JP> to pick which drives to mount
JP> and share, machine name, workgroup, etc.
Its not too bad with Miami. (But then you have to access the net through a
proxy server on your LAN -- like I do.)
JP> The Amigas should show up in a Windows Network Neighborhood without
JP> a fuss. Maybe an "Amiga Neighborhood" on the Amiga also?
Samba does this. E-mail me if you need help setting it up/getting it to work.
JP> Mounted drives should be accessable as a real volume, i.e. "NH0:"
I don't follow. You mean PC drives accessed from the Amiga? I don't see the
advantage of "NH0:" over "PC:c/" (like Siamese allows)
JP> 2 Flyers and 3 PC's half a$$ networked through samba
Why can't you access you Amigas through NetNeighborhood? What do you dislike
about Samba?
JP> *Team AMIGA*
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Rhett R. Rodewald
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Robert Kidd
<sw...@ieighty.net> wrote:
> > In article <slrn71mee6...@amethyst.axisinternet.com>, KC5TJA wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the last post -- my newsreader wasn't configured to post with an
> > external editor.
> >
> > I currently do not have an Amiga, but am seriously considering getting back
> > into the Amiga software development market after a six year lapse. My last
> > Amiga was an A500, and am planning on purchasing an A4000T with an Ethernet
> > card. Due to my lapse, however, and with everything in the Amiga community
> > changing so fast, I don't know one card from another anymore. *embarrasing
> > grin* So with that in mind, what 10-base-T Ethernet card is recommended?
> > Are any 100-base-T cards available as well? Switchable 10/100-base-T?
> > About how much do that cost, and where can I go to find them?
>
> Welcome back. Now as far as an Ethernet card, there are several
> options open. First the bad news. There are no 100 BaseT cards
> available for the Amiga. A 100 BaseT Ethernet card would probably
> require:
>
The DKB Wildfire 060 for the 2000 has a 100 Base T ethernet port on it,
but it costs $1300.
Robert
Niels Knoop
> Welcome back. Now as far as an Ethernet card, there are several
> options open. First the bad news. There are no 100 BaseT cards
> available for the Amiga.
There is one called Wildfire. It even includes a Fast-SCSI hostadapter,
memory expansion and 060 accelerator. ;-)
> A 100 BaseT Ethernet card would probably
> require:
>
> a) a Zorro III bus. Zorro II maxes out somewhere in the 2.5Meg/sec,
The theoretical limit is ~3.5 MB/s. and the PicassoIV actually reaches
it in my A2000. However, in Zorro-III machines the Zorro-II support
is slower than an original Zorro-II implementation, 3.5 MB/s. are
still a bottleneck and Zorro-II also has the following problem.
> b) DMA. Current Amiga cards are CPU driven, with the CPU transferring
> the data to/from the card.
There is little else the current card could do because as Zorro-II
devices they can't reach the 32-bit Fast-RAM outside the 24bit area
anyhow.
> As far as I know, no manufacturer is thinking about making even a
> Zorro III card, much less DMA 100 BaseT card.
From all we know, a Zorro-III DMA card would be a problem all by
itself, especially if it wasn't the only one in the system.
> As far as 10 BaseT cards, here is the current lineup.
Thanks for the info!
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Klaus Burkert
> but it costs $1300.
No. The ethernet part is based on the DEC 21040 chipset which is clearly
10 MBit/s only.
Ciao, Klaus.
Klaus Burkert
> > options open. First the bad news. There are no 100 BaseT cards
> > available for the Amiga.
> There is one called Wildfire. It even includes a Fast-SCSI hostadapter,
> memory expansion and 060 accelerator. ;-)
The Wildfire is 10MBit/s, the DEC21040 chip is uncapable of 100MBit/s.
> > As far as I know, no manufacturer is thinking about making even a
> > Zorro III card, much less DMA 100 BaseT card.
> From all we know, a Zorro-III DMA card would be a problem all by
> itself, especially if it wasn't the only one in the system.
In fact one coud have done a Z-III PIO card with local buffer, I learned
about a 100MBit/s chipset still support ISA bus (but needs 128KB of fast
SRAM as local buffer) but driving this ober a Z-II bus would only result
in a lot of lost packets as you can't empty the buffer fast enough.
Z-III by itself is much effort and thus costly to implement, I would
have expectd such a card to sell below say, DM 500.- (probably even higher)
and at this pricetag one wouldn't sell much if any at all.
So it stays at 10MBit/s and Z-II unless some PCI equipped Amiga with
mastering capabilities shows up.
Ciao, Klaus.
Allan Duncan
>The A2065 card is also a decent performer. The card is old, but it
>still performs well. Can not be found anywhere but in the used market.
>Performance is similar to the Ariadne at 750K/s.
Note that the A2065 is programmed I/O, and so the rate is highly CPU
dependent. I get about 100K/s with an '030/25, or <30K/s with the base
level '000.
Allan Duncan a.du...@trl.telstra.com.au (+613) 9253 6708, Fax 9253 6776
Infrastructure - Transport Networks
Telstra Research Labs, Box 249 Rosebank MDC
Clayton, Victoria, 3169, Australia
John Six
>worked well. Meaning easy to set up, stable and FAST. This is a MUST
>have Amiga soft.
John Six
>Why can't you access you Amigas through NetNeighborhood? What do you dislike
>about Samba?
Seriously, when it comes to software I am the perfect beta tester.
It took me 6 months to figure out assigns. The Amiga has spoiled me,
click on install keep clicking on the OK, reboot it should work.
Want to know why the other 60% of the population don't own computers?
We want it like a TV. Turn it on, use it, turn it off :)
Hannu Nevalainen
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Swiftshadow
> >The A2065 card is also a decent performer. The card is old, but it
> >still performs well. Can not be found anywhere but in the used market.
> >Performance is similar to the Ariadne at 750K/s.
>
> Note that the A2065 is programmed I/O, and so the rate is highly CPU
> dependent. I get about 100K/s with an '030/25, or <30K/s with the base
> level '000.
That's why at the beginning I stated that the figures were based on
060/50mhz, using Miami's custom Ethernet drivers (which seem to be
*much* more efficient than the SANA II drivers.)
Btw, as far as I know, all Amiga Zorro Ethernet cards are PIO. (Unless
VillageTronic throws us a curve by making the Ariadne II DMA capable
that is.) However, Zorro DMA is problematic. It would work great for
all the Zorro II machines out there, but A3000/A4000's would have a
problem, as the only Zorro II DMA'able memory is Chip RAM. Having
to read from Chip RAM kills almost any speed advantage of doing DMA on
A3000/A4000. Going to Zorro III for A3k/4K class machines is an
option, but that would only work correctly with machines that have at
least SuperBuster 9 (actually I think 11 is required for complete
Zorro III DMA compliance). The number of machines out there with a
Buster 11 implementation are few and far between. All those A4000 with
surface mounted Buster 9's would be out of the race, unless you're
really lucky and can get someone to do SM work for you.
Carlos
AmigaWare
> > a) a Zorro III bus. Zorro II maxes out somewhere in the 2.5Meg/sec,
>
> The theoretical limit is ~3.5 MB/s. and the PicassoIV actually reaches
> it in my A2000. However, in Zorro-III machines the Zorro-II support
> is slower than an original Zorro-II implementation, 3.5 MB/s. are
> still a bottleneck and Zorro-II also has the following problem.
Why can't ZorroII do any better than 3.5 MB/sec. I would understand
3.5MB/sec if it was a 4 bit slot at 7mhz but not a 16 bit slot.
Also keep in mind that ethernet speed ratings are about like hard
drive speed ratings, show me a 33MB/sec IDE drive!
10baseT is rated at 1.25 MB/sec (10Mb/sec) but I have never seen over
500KB-900KB (4Mb-7.2Mb/sec) out of it. If 100baseT keeps the same effeciency
then 5-9 MB/sec (40Mb-72Mb/sec) would work...
Also ethernet doesn't run flat out all the time either. My Quantum
lightning does 3.9 MB second but it still would take a minute to copy
3.9 MB of info. BTW that 3.9 MB sec is on a zorroII bus.
> Thanks for the info!
>
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Heinz Wrobel
>Why can't ZorroII do any better than 3.5 MB/sec. I would understand
>3.5MB/sec if it was a 4 bit slot at 7mhz but not a 16 bit slot.
Z-II, which is basically a plain 68000 bus, does not transfer a
UWORD of data on each clock cycle. Just check any MC68000 User's
Manual.
>Grant
BTW, I still haven't received the payment for the driver I sent
you in May. Could you check on this, please?
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Niels Knoop
> Why can't ZorroII do any better than 3.5 MB/sec. I would understand
> 3.5MB/sec if it was a 4 bit slot at 7mhz but not a 16 bit slot.
~7.1 MHz clock, 4 clocks per bus cycle, 16 bit => ~3.5 MB/s.
> 10baseT is rated at 1.25 MB/sec (10Mb/sec) but I have never seen over
> 500KB-900KB (4Mb-7.2Mb/sec) out of it. If 100baseT keeps the same
> effeciency then 5-9 MB/sec (40Mb-72Mb/sec) would work...
Which would require at least Zorro-III.
> Also ethernet doesn't run flat out all the time either. My Quantum
> lightning does 3.9 MB second but it still would take a minute to
> copy 3.9 MB of info. BTW that 3.9 MB sec is on a zorroII bus.
I don't think so, unless the motherboard is overclocked or the
transfer doesn't really go over the Zorro-II bus, which might
be the case with memory on the hostadapter itself.
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Klaus Burkert
> 3.5MB/sec if it was a 4 bit slot at 7mhz but not a 16 bit slot.
Please do the homework of looking nto the MC68000 specs (the ZorroII
spec states that it's basically an 68000 bus with some sidebnd signals
and autoconfig added). For your convenience, the fastest possible
transaction takes 4 clock cycles (or 8 halfcycles, named S0 .. S7 in
the MC68000 spec) per transaction. At 7.16 MHz clock rate you get a
max. of 7.16 * 10^6 / 4 = 1.79 * 10^6 transactions per second with
16 bit (aka 2 Bytes= per transaction. That makes for a mac throughput
of 1.79 * 2 = 3.58 MB/s which is staed all over.
It's just simple elementary school math and understanding of Motorola's
specs...
> 10baseT is rated at 1.25 MB/sec (10Mb/sec) but I have never seen over
Which is the theorectical physical peak.
> 500KB-900KB (4Mb-7.2Mb/sec) out of it. If 100baseT keeps the same effeciency
> then 5-9 MB/sec (40Mb-72Mb/sec) would work...
Obviously each protocol opposes some overhead on the trnsfer and on the
processing side (both slowdowns add up upon each other), so 900KB/s isn't
that bad, in fact it's really good.
Ciao, Klaus.
Allan Duncan
Swiftshadow <sw...@ieighty.net> wrote:
[...]
>Btw, as far as I know, all Amiga Zorro Ethernet cards are PIO. (Unless
>VillageTronic throws us a curve by making the Ariadne II DMA capable
>that is.) However, Zorro DMA is problematic. It would work great for
>all the Zorro II machines out there, but A3000/A4000's would have a
>problem, as the only Zorro II DMA'able memory is Chip RAM. Having
>to read from Chip RAM kills almost any speed advantage of doing DMA on
>A3000/A4000. Going to Zorro III for A3k/4K class machines is an
>option, but that would only work correctly with machines that have at
>least SuperBuster 9 (actually I think 11 is required for complete
>Zorro III DMA compliance). The number of machines out there with a
>Buster 11 implementation are few and far between. All those A4000 with
>surface mounted Buster 9's would be out of the race, unless you're
>really lucky and can get someone to do SM work for you.
>
>Carlos
There are a couple of errors in the above quote.
The A2091 _is_ DMA, that is why it gets its nickers in a twist if the
destination address falls above the 24bit boundary. The GURU ROM deals
with that by doing PIO to that memory. I don't know if it uses DMA to
24bit buffers first.
Zorro II DMA addresses all 24bit memory, as far as I remember. I
haven't got the docos handy to check, but I'm sure it does better than
chip only.
Allan Duncan a.du...@trl.telstra.com.au (+613) 9253 6708, Fax 9253 6776
Infrastructure - Broadband Networks
joe
> The number of machines out there with a
> Buster 11 implementation are few and far between. All those A4000 with
> surface mounted Buster 9's would be out of the race, unless you're
> really lucky and can get someone to do SM work for you.
Sorry to point this out - A4000s made from '93 on actually have buster
11 installed from the factory. Only the '92s have smt rev 9 buster. My
early '93 A4000 has a socketed rev 11 buster. For those with rev9,
Paxtron is authorized to do smt Amiga work if you can't find someone
local.
The sad fact is that most boards are Zorro2 except graphics cards to
avoid the problem in the first place. That is the case with my DKB
Spitfire SCSI2. I wish the damn thing was Z3 instead since I have all
this unused Z3 bandwidth going to waste :( ........joe
Paul May
> John Six <x...@delphi.com> wrote:
>>"John P" <ami...@usa.net> writes:
>>
>>>We need a VIABLE alternative to SAMBA!
>>
>>
>>>This would be worth $100 easy to me. $200 would not make me upset. IF it
>>>worked well. Meaning easy to set up, stable and FAST. This is a MUST
>>>have Amiga soft.
>>
>> Yes, I agree, it would also be worth 100 dollars easily to me.
> Check for NFS server at http://www.iworks.com/ (client comes with AmiTCP)
Hi Hannu.
i'v got and amiga amd a pc runing win95.
i have also got them working with TCP/IP protocol.
internet
|
---modem--ser1:-PC-ser2:
|
ser0:-AMIGA
i'm useing dune one the PC and miami on the AMIGA
i'm running unreged wingate to do the dialing out to the net
and into the AMIGA.
i have got it (sofar) so that i can connect to the net
from the pc OR have the AMIGA get Wingate to dialout for me
and everything seems fine (i said it could be done useing ser only<G>)
read/write/collect/send email/news with thor on the amiga
while i browse (NS)and check for incoming email (dEYE) with the PC
the thing is though, that i need to run a seperate FTP server prog
(bisonFTP)on the pc so i can ftp from the AMIGA to the pc.
without running bisonftp i can still access the net from eather machine
what i need now is a way to access the amiga from the pc side
(some ftp S/W like bisonFTP ?).
i'm just learning this network stuff although i'm an old time AMIGA user
basicly i'm needing on the amiga side, a TCP/IP stack (miami working fine) ,
an ftp server prog (like bisonFTP), someone to explain how to setup/use
the netFS and related progs that came with the freeware versions of amiTCP,
with the Miami Stack ?.
i dont have a second serial card in the amiga so i'll not be useing
the amiga as the main internet Box, anyways its better to use the
PC as a slave <G>, as it has the faster serial controller and i can
get my net stuff faster on ti and feed the AMIGA at its own pace
from the cached Wingate copys.
if i end up getting the BoXeR or InsideOut card i may then use
the AMIGA side more.
i'v also been considering trying the 2 network cards i have (ISA)
with the C=286 bridgeboard and them AMIGA sana2 bridgboard progs
although i'm short of AMIGA ram right now until i can find someone
selling a 2632 to add to my 2630.
if i put the 286 back in, i'd loose a meg as i cant map anything less
and my zorro2 space is curently full with 4meg fast(2630) & picasso 4
set to 2meg and the 2 meg 16 bit ram card i have now will need to be
pulled to make room for the 1/2 meg zorro2 space the C=286 needs to work.
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Paul May
Team
*AMIGA*
<tsb> User Of The small OS With A BIG Future
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