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Xinoehpoel

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Jun 15, 2001, 1:11:07 AM6/15/01
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Sonny I had you all wrong. You are not as hopeless as all the skeptics here,
but I still sense you are in denial concerning "the time."

You think like a skeptic. You reason within yourself: "Is it easier to
believe that nature has gone out of her course or that a man would tell a
lie?" -Thomas Paine

You mock like an atheist. You jest the Watchtower like Carl Sagan. "Oh, did
we say 1914? So sorry, we meant 2014. A slight error in calculation. Hope
you weren't inconvenienced in any way."

Why do your eyes not work? Can you not discern the time? Read:

Jesus replied: "When you see stormclouds in west, you say: 'Rain is coming,'
and so it does.
When you see the wind blow from the south, you say: 'It'll be a hot one,'
and so it is.
Hypocrites! You predict the weather, why can you not predict the end of the
times?"

First of all, you have the right foundation if you believe in a personal
Creator God, the kind that would be responsible for all the cool stuff in
the Old Testament, and the future apocalypse in the book of Revelation. But
if you do not, you greatly err.

If you can even believe the flood, that is great. Why do you not believe me?
You question whether I am christian because, as you say, "[I] pick and
choose scriptures, disregarding those ones that [I] don't agree with..."
Well hypocrite. Do you not also do the same thing? Do you not also disregard
the words of my teachings that come from the bible, because you "pick and
choose" ones that disagree with them? Do you not choose Paul's teachings and
reject the teachings of Jesus? No wonder I call Paul a liar, according to
him, the law of my God is dead! Well, as Peter L pointed out, how can I say
he lies all the time? As Paul himself said in 1Cor 9:20-22,

"To the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are
under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the
law; to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law
toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are
without law; to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have
become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some."

Two-faced Paul will pretend to believe in agreement with whoever he is
preaching his strange ideas to, that he might "have some" by all means...
This is messed up. Paul just wants to have his say, and he don't care about
being rejected for teaching truth (as Jesus taught us) but he will "conform"
and "compromise" to anyone's evil standards and lustful desires, just so
they will hear him out. The guy didn't preach repentance, he just added to
what they already believed, even the false security of "just believe and you
will saved."

Sonny, you strike me as an immature christian. Don't you know friendship
with the world is being an enemy to God? Why? Because the world (even the
christian churches) persecute God's people! Do you go to church? Why? Jesus
rebuked fellowship. He called gathering together to pray in churches
hypocrisy! As well as in public... (see ya at the pole lamer) Why do
Christians not keep his teachings? Go read *.christian.hypocrisy newsgroups.
There are lots of examples. Did you know Christian churches are REQUIRED to
provide for abortions because of their tax-free government liscense? Forgot
to tell you that did they? Now you know what thousands upon thousands of
brainless christians are providing for when give offering on Sunday morning.

"Behold, they are of the synagogue of satan!"

Christians basically do whatever the hell they want, evil or good,
regardless of truth andor what is taught in the gospels let alone the old
testament. They remind me the Pharisees in Jesus' day. You are a pharisee
Sonny?

Jesus groaned and said: "Why does this generation seek after a sign? I tell
you, No sign will be given to it."

Oops! Jesus forgot the resurrection! Do you really believe all the miracles
in the gospels really happened? Complete horse-poo. Jesus didn't cast out
evil spirits, or raise the dead. All that was ADDED INTO the gospels later.
You say the pre-flood population had "no reason to doubt the power of God."
Whatever. It is always the same. No signs are done out in the open to
encourage repentance. They are only done in secret, TO HINDER REPENTANCE!
God doesn't want to give these people a sign! You say "the ark Noah built
was a visible sign to them all...as well as the sight of countless animals
coming before the ark...In general the prophets of God have always come with
a sign of some kind. Some were even able to heal the sick and raise the
dead."

You are so deluded! Rarely is even the slightest sign given to anyone. And
you might say, what about the exodus? Well, it was PROBABLY not as obvious
as the bible makes it out to be...and even so, God STILL hardened Pharaoh's
heart. Jesus, like I said, only healed a few sick, and in private usually,
did not raise the dead, save HIMSELF ONLY, and in general, most prophets DID
NOT have any sign at all. In fact, most of the "signs" of God's prophets
turned out to be false... yet they, like Isaiah, are still considered true
prophets.

2Chr 18:22
The LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of his prophets, because the
LORD has intentioned evil against [his people].

But am I lying? No, that is why no one believes me. It is all those who are
saying, "2012 peace on earth, dawn of the new age, global warming oh no" who
God has put a lying spirit in the mouth of, that he might deceive all to
believe in the antichrist and great deception. I speak the truth, yet why am
I not doing what God wants me to, that is, lie? Because I guess he still has
a heart for some of you, that some of you might still REPENT and be saved.
Oh well, 99.99%+ will not believe me.

> Are you saying we should become Anarchists?

Duh!

> Tell me how do I offend God? How does God wish us to live?

Everytime you are a hypocrite, which is by far the worse sin. Also, do not
preach your false security bs "just ask Jesus into your heart you will be
saved." Do not call the bible the word of God. Do not have idols, that is,
anything in the form of any lifeform under heaven, or in heaven. Protest the
statue of liberty, protest government imposition, seat belts, and every
other injustice they perpetrate on the people. Do not live in pleasure, but
live in sorrow, for the day is near. AND ABOVE ALL, DO NOT LOVE MONEY. Care
more about those who get ripped off than your own gain. This is for
starters. When you want more, I can provide more.

X


Mark

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Jun 15, 2001, 6:11:30 AM6/15/01
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"Sonny" <fake...@address.com> wrote in message
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> I am a result of all my experiences and all my knowledge. I am a
> product of my society. I can be no more and no less. If I am to be
> more then that will take divine intervention. If I were to be less
> than that would be a betrayal of myself.

Don't forget your genes... they give ya the 'Potential' to rise above the
'product of society' and 'experiences' delimiter (among other things).

;)


ke...@tiscali.se

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Jun 15, 2001, 5:16:26 PM6/15/01
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Sunday school: Love outscores law.

"Xinoehpoel" <tes...@psl.moc> skrev i meddelandet
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