Nominated programs can be evaluated for inclusion/exclusion on/from the list
at this time.
If anyone notes a glaring omission, please post name of program, category
and link. The program will be included in the vote if there is support for
it.
Links are being double-checked, so please bear with us if any of the ones
listed here are incorrect.
NOMINATED PROGRAMS
(C) indicates a program on the 2002 PL
(S) indicates a seconded program.
Automation:
AutoIt
http://www.hiddensoft.com/AutoIt/
(S) Batchrun
http://www.outertech.com/
(S) EndItAll 1
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/download/0/1405/enditall.zip
(C)(S) EndItAll 2
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,26639,00.asp
MacroMaker
http://members.ij.net/anthonymathews/MacroMaker.htm
(C) MyRun
http://ex-boroda.chat.ru/english.html
(S) PTFB (Push the Freakin' Button)
http://www.bobos.demon.co.uk/par/PTFB.htm
Wonderful Icon
http://www.thewonderfulicon.com/
Back-Up Tools:
(C) BASK
http://freebask.homestead.com/bask.html
(C) MOB (MY OWN BACKUP)
http://www.cyberiapc.com/backup.htm
(S) WinDriversBackup
http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm
(C)(S) xxcopy
http://www.xxcopy.com/
Character Utility:
(C) AllChars
http://allchars.zwolnet.com/
(C) ExtendedCharacterMap
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp
CD Tools:
Burn to the Brim
http://bttb.sourceforge.net/
(S) CDCheck
http://www.elpros.si/CDCheck/
Cdswitch
http://www.verylim.com/index.htm?http://www.verylim.com/CDswitch/index.htm
Clipboard Extenders:
Clipboard Magic
http://www.cyber-matrix.com/clipmag.htm
(S) Clipomatic
http://www.mlin.net/
Hamsin Clipboard
http://www.iisr-cnc.com/hamsin/
(C)(S) Yankee Clipper III
http://www.yankee-clipper.net/index.htm
(S) Yankee Clipper Plus
http://www.levasseur.net/YCP/
Console Utility:
rxvt
http://www.rxvt.org/
Cooler:
(C) Rain 2.0
http://wald.heim.at/redwood/510971/rain20.zip
Waterfall
http://www.coastnet.com/~rcward/programs/wtrfl32.exe
Disk Space Information Tools:
(C) SpaceMonger
http://www.werkema.com/software/spacemonger.html
Scanner
http://www.steffengerlach.de/freeware/
Space
http://www.moontown.net/products/space.php
(C) TreeSize
http://www.jamsoft.net/software.html
Format Tools:
(C) SuperFormat
http://195.241.84.246/zdnet/dlweek0127/sformat.zip
Hardware Monitor:
(S) MotherBoard Monitor (MBM)
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
HEX Editors:
(C) FRHED
http://www.kibria.de/frhed.html
Install / Uninstall Tools:
(C) Add/Remove Pro
http://superwin.com/
(S) InCtrl4
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/download/0/1112/inctrl4.zip
(C)(S) InCtrl5
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,73039,00.asp
(S) Nullsoft Scriptable Install System (NSIS)
http://nsis.sourceforge.net/
(C)(S) Total Uninstall
http://users.rol.ro/g/gmartau/projects/projects.html
(S) UndoREG
http://spazioinwind.libero.it/neutronstar/mysoft.html
Keyboard Tools:
BlueVade HotKey
http://www.bluevade.com/2/bvhk.php
(S) DirKey
http://www.webattack.com/get/dirkey.shtml
(S) Hotkey Detective 2
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1898,00.asp
(S) Hotkeys
http://www.broeze.com/hotkeys/
Insert Toggle Key (ITK)
http://www.mlin.net/misc.shtml
MemoKeys
http://www.interlogic-concept.com/memokeys.htm
(C) WinKey
http://www.copernic.com/winkey/
ZDKeymap
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,35551,00.asp
Memory Utilities:
Cache Booster
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system/cb.htm
(C)(S) Cacheman
http://www.outertech.com/
(C)(S) MemLoad
http://w1.132.telia.com/~u13200034/
Memtest86
http://www.memtest86.com/
RAMpage a RAM manager for windows9x/Me Home Page
http://www.jfitz.com/RAMpage/
Mouse Tools:
(C)(S) MouseImp
http://nonags.siol.net/miscu.html
StrokeIt
http://www.tcbmi.com/strokeit/
Operating Systems:
BeOS
http://www.bebits.com/app/2680
Debian
http://www.debian.org/
FreeBSD
http://www.freebsd.org/
Partition Managers:
(C)(S) Ranish Partition Manager
http://www.ranish.com/part/
(S) Savepart
http://perso.club-internet.fr/guiboure/en/
(S) XOSL
http://www.xosl.org/
Process Managers/Monitors:
(C)(S) Another Task Manager
AppSwat
http://www.ddhomepage.nm.ru/html/appswat.html
(S) FileMon
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/filemon.shtml
(C)(S) PrcView
http://www.prcview.com/
(S) Process Explorer
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml
PV2K
http://www.blehq.org/
(S) Win9x/ME TaskManager
http://www.coralsoftware.com/TaskManager/
Programming:
Adventure Game Studio
http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/
(C) Borland Delphi
http://www.borland.com/delphi/delphi_personal/index.html
Eclipse
http://www.eclipse.org/
FreePascal
http://www.freepascal.org/
(S) Inno Setup
http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php
Gel
http://www.gexperts.com/
GRDB
http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/frindx.htm?grdb.htm
LCC-Win32
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32/
Open Perl IDE
http://open-perl-ide.sourceforge.net/
Registry Cleaners:
(C)(S) Easycleaner
http://www.toniarts.com/ecleane.htm
OleClean
http://www.geocities.com/drdole/ScreenShots/OleClean.html
(C)(S) RegClean
ftp://ftp.rz.uni-kiel.de/pub/1med/Microsoft/Explorer/Reg_Clean_4.1a/regcln41.exe
(C) RegCleaner
http://www.jv16.org/
Registry Editors::
(C)(S) RegEdit plus
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,93433,00.asp
(C) RegEditX
http://www.dcsoft.com/prod01.htm
(C)(S) Registrar lite
http://www.resplendence.com/docs/
RegMagik
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/bguzner/software/
Registry Tools:
(C)(S) Registry Detective
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/download/0/1037/regdet.zip
(C)(S) Regmon
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/regmon.shtml
RegSeek
http://www.tafweb.com/regseek.html
(S) RegSeeker
http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
RegSrch
http://ftp.nchu.edu.tw/cpatch/sysutil/regsrch/regsrch215c.exe
(S) RegShot
http://regshot.ist.md/
Resource Tools:
(C)(S) Quick Resource
http://am-productions.yi.org/getprod.php?pcode=QuickResource
(C)(S) Resource Hacker
http://www.users.on.net/johnson/resourcehacker/rh_history.html
Start-Up Managers:
(C)(S) Startup Control Panel
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
(C) Startup Cop
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,2097,00.asp
System Information Tools:
(S) Aida32
http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php
WinSystem98
http://membres.lycos.fr/bonduel/newtech/us/winsystem.html
System Tools:
(S) Belarc Advisor
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
(S) DAEMON Tools
http://www.daemon-tools.org/main800.htm
(S) jv16 Powertools
http://registry/system/file/network-utility
(S) WCPUid
http://www.h-oda.com/
System Tray Utilities:
Folder Organiser
http://tp.lc.ehu.es/jma/win95.html
System Tray Utilities:
http://www.mlin.net/
(C)(S) TrayBar
http://www.nimation.nl/traybar/
(C) TrayManager
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,22725,00.asp
(C) TrayMin
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,26381,00.asp
System Tweakers:
(C) More Properties
http://www.imaginary.co.za/
(C)(S) TWEAK UI
http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstation/downloads/PowerToys/Networking/NTTweakUI.asp
(C)(S) Xteq X-Setup
http://www.xteq.com/products/xset/index.html
Taskbar Utilities:
BarLaunch
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/kyagi/enu/index.htm
Hidden Menu
http://ideasoft.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.htm
(S) MultiRunner
http://www.personal.u-net.com/~williaj/multirunner.html
(C)(S) PowerPro
http://www.windowspowerpro.com/
(S) RUNit
http://www.magister-lex.at/RUNit/index.html
Tray Commander
http://www.ardamax.com/info_tcl.html
Whiz Launcher MINI
http://wss.hypermart.net/data/down.cgi?wlmini
Unix Tools:
(S) Cygwin
http://www.cygwin.com/
** Please note the following programs nominated under the SYSTEM UTILITIES
category will be moved to the corresponding categories:
DLL Archive - File Utilities
Empty Temp Folders - File Utilities
FileAnalyzer - File Utilities
HDCleaner - File Utilities
(S) HDValet - File Utilities
FreshIcons - Desktop
(S) MultiRes - Desktop
--
Cheers,
Genna
******************************************************
Nominations for 2003 Pricelessware List:
http://2003nominations.pricelessware.org/index.htm
Pricelessware List - best Freeware as selected by acf readers:
http://www.pricelessware.org/
> Discussion will be open through November 25, 2002
> The full list of all nominated programs is published on the
> Pricelessware site:
> http://2003nominations.pricelessware.org/index.htm
>
> Nominated programs can be evaluated for inclusion/exclusion
> on/from the list at this time.
> If anyone notes a glaring omission, please post name of program,
> category and link. The program will be included in the vote if
> there is support for it.
> Links are being double-checked, so please bear with us if any of
> the ones listed here are incorrect.
>
>
> NOMINATED PROGRAMS
> (C) indicates a program on the 2002 PL
> (S) indicates a seconded program.
[snip]
>
> Clipboard Extenders:
> Clipboard Magic
> http://www.cyber-matrix.com/clipmag.htm
> (S) Clipomatic
> http://www.mlin.net/
> Hamsin Clipboard
> http://www.iisr-cnc.com/hamsin/
> (C)(S) Yankee Clipper III
> http://www.yankee-clipper.net/index.htm
> (S) Yankee Clipper Plus
> http://www.levasseur.net/YCP/
> Install / Uninstall Tools:
> (C) Add/Remove Pro
> http://superwin.com/
Add/Remove Pro :)
> Keyboard Tools:
[snip]
> MemoKeys
> http://www.interlogic-concept.com/memokeys.htm
Memokeys should be with the 'Clipboard Extenders'
I was not sure where it went when I nominated it.
793kb
http://www.interlogic-concept.com/memokeys.htm
> Process Managers/Monitors:
> (C)(S) PrcView
> http://www.prcview.com/
PrcView :)
> Registry Cleaners:
> (C)(S) Easycleaner
> http://www.toniarts.com/ecleane.htm
> OleClean
> http://www.geocities.com/drdole/ScreenShots/OleClean.html
> (C)(S) RegClean
> ftp://ftp.rz.uni-kiel.de/pub/1med/Microsoft/Explorer/Reg_Clean_4.1a
> /regcln41.exe (C) RegCleaner
> http://www.jv16.org/
I like all the above Registry Cleaners.
> Start-Up Managers:
> (C) Startup Cop
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,2097,00.asp
Startup Cop :)
>
> System Information Tools:
> (S) Aida32
> http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php
> WinSystem98
> http://membres.lycos.fr/bonduel/newtech/us/winsystem.html
>
>
> System Tools:
> (S) Belarc Advisor
> http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
Belarc Advisor (I've used once) Should this be with the 'System
Information Tools'?
> System Tray Utilities:
> Folder Organiser
> http://tp.lc.ehu.es/jma/win95.html
> System Tray Utilities:
> http://www.mlin.net/
> (C)(S) TrayBar
> http://www.nimation.nl/traybar/
> (C) TrayManager
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,22725,00.asp
> (C) TrayMin
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,26381,00.asp
TrayBar :) Beside just 'liking' the program I like the fact that the
author is open to suggestions and he fixes bugs when reported. Unlike
some programs where you can't even reach the author! :(
>> System Tools:
>> (S) Belarc Advisor
>> http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
>
> Belarc Advisor (I've used once) Should this be with the 'System
> Information Tools'?
It also alerts you to possible problems and gives you the option of
downloading and installing any available patches/fixes.
--
Tiger
*Remove yourclothes. to reply via email
> Boomer <.Boomer.__Baby._.@.hotmaill.com> wrote in
> news:3ddbcbe9$0$68413$892e...@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net:
>
>>> System Tools:
>>> (S) Belarc Advisor
>>> http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
>>
>> Belarc Advisor (I've used once) Should this be with the 'System
>> Information Tools'?
>
> It also alerts you to possible problems and gives you the option of
> downloading and installing any available patches/fixes.
>
Hmmmm. Okay. Thanks. It never did that for me. Wonder what I did
wrong. <shrug>
Nothing. You simply didn't have a problem that it recognized. It's
database is quite limited. I've used it for about a year,
periodically checking to see if there are problems. It's found 4 in
a year...and every one of those had to do with Microsoft security
issues.
It's an "okay" app...but not one I'd vote as "priceless."
>Genna Reeney said:
>
>> Install / Uninstall Tools:
>> (C) Add/Remove Pro
>> http://superwin.com/
>
>Add/Remove Pro :)
I found Add/Remove Pro wouldn't remove a couple of programs and
wouldn't let me delete the entries from Add/Remove Programs. JV16
PowerTools did the job without any problem. If others experience the
same problem, I'd suggest dropping Add/remove Pro.
Larry
> Boomer <.Boomer.__Baby._.@.hotmaill.com> wrote in
> news:3ddbd571$0$68413$892e...@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net:
>
>> Tiger said:
>>
>>> Boomer <.Boomer.__Baby._.@.hotmaill.com> wrote in
>>> news:3ddbcbe9$0$68413$892e...@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net:
>>>
>>>>> System Tools:
>>>>> (S) Belarc Advisor http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
>>>>
>>>> Belarc Advisor (I've used once) Should this be with the 'System
>>>> Information Tools'?
>>>
>>> It also alerts you to possible problems and gives you the option
>>> of downloading and installing any available patches/fixes.
>>>
>>
>> Hmmmm. Okay. Thanks. It never did that for me. Wonder what I
>> did wrong. <shrug>
>>
> Nothing. You simply didn't have a problem that it recognized. It's
> database is quite limited. I've used it for about a year,
> periodically checking to see if there are problems. It's found 4 in
> a year...and every one of those had to do with Microsoft security
> issues.
>
> It's an "okay" app...but not one I'd vote as "priceless."
>
I wouldn't vote it priceless either. At least under "System Tools".
It's okay for "Information Tools" AFAIC.
>>
>
> I wouldn't vote it priceless either. At least under "System Tools".
> It's okay for "Information Tools" AFAIC.
Agree
--
RL
> At any rate, Add/Remove Pro just seems too limited to merit being
> Pricelessware.
>
Agreed.
Sorry Boomer...brain cramp. I was thinking "Big Fix" when I wrote
the above. Belarc is as you described it...and also not priceless
imo. Apparently, I'm not as adept at multitasking as I thought :)
>> I wouldn't vote it priceless either. At least under "System
>> Tools". It's okay for "Information Tools" AFAIC.
>
> Sorry Boomer...brain cramp. I was thinking "Big Fix" when I wrote
> the above. Belarc is as you described it...and also not priceless
> imo. Apparently, I'm not as adept at multitasking as I thought :)
Scissors, Tiger, scissors... :)
--
rhexis
Amazing improvised electric violin. Free
mp3s available. - http://solostring.com/
> Boomer <.Boomer.__Baby._.@.hotmaill.com> wrote in
[snip]
>> I wouldn't vote it priceless either. At least under "System
>> Tools". It's okay for "Information Tools" AFAIC.
>>
> Sorry Boomer...brain cramp. I was thinking "Big Fix" when I wrote
> the above. Belarc is as you described it...and also not priceless
> imo. Apparently, I'm not as adept at multitasking as I thought :)
;-) You're showing your 'old' age. lol
Probably even worse for IE... This is my argument for MyIE2! Try opening 100
windows and enjoy your browsing!!
--
Greetings, Peter Passchier
> Probably even worse for IE... This is my argument for MyIE2! Try
> opening 100 windows and enjoy your browsing!!
Since MyIE is nothing more than an IE-shell I'm a bit puzzled by
this statement.
My comments are above the desired program.
Mike Sa
>My vote.
> (S) EndItAll 1
> http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/download/0/1405/enditall.zip
>
> Clipboard Extenders:
My vote. It belongs here, not in Shell Utilities.
> (C)(S) Yankee Clipper III
> http://www.yankee-clipper.net/index.htm
> Format Tools:
My vote.
> (C) SuperFormat
> http://195.241.84.246/zdnet/dlweek0127/sformat.zip
>
>
> Process Managers/Monitors:
I vote for all below.
> (C)(S) Another Task Manager
> (C)(S) PrcView
> http://www.prcview.com/
> (S) Process Explorer
> http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml
>
> Registry Editors::
My vote.
> (C)(S) RegEdit plus
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,93433,00.asp
>
> Registry Tools:
My vote.
> (C)(S) Registry Detective
> http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/download/0/1037/regdet.zip
>
> Start-Up Managers:
Both of these get my vote.
> (C)(S) Startup Control Panel
> http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
> (C) Startup Cop
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,2097,00.asp
>
> System Information Tools:
My vote.
> (S) Aida32
> http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php
>
> Taskbar Utilities:
This is my favorite, easy to work with, small, reliable.
Bob, do you have a link to Fresh Icons? The one at Moon Software does
not list it.
Thanks,
Mike Sa
Well, it's a very well done shell, and it's been said that it makes proper
use of the tabbed-windows technique, thus reducing system load enormously.
Have you tried?
--
Greetings, Peter Passchier
>> Since MyIE is nothing more than an IE-shell I'm a bit puzzled by
>> this statement.
>
> Well, it's a very well done shell, and it's been said that it makes
> proper use of the tabbed-windows technique, thus reducing system load
> enormously.
Since iexplore.exe is also just a shell, I still don't understand how
it MyIE reduces the load 'enormously'.
> Have you tried?
Yes, but I found it unfinished somehow. The menus (and the Fav. menu
in particular) bugged me since they didn't act like standard Windows
menus. I also couldn't get it to open new tabs when I clicked on a
link using the middle mouse-button.
I don't use IE now though, so it's a moot point for me. Phoenix
doesn't allow my computer to be formated just because someone
included a small piece of javascript on their page... That makes me
happy. ;)
I don't really understand, but I find it awesome that it's so stable and
well-behaved compared to IE, and you can open all your favorites, and it's
all still working! With IE, 30 would be almost impossible. If you're really
interested, I'm sure someone could find the 'explanation' I've read
regarding this.
--
Greetings, Peter Passchier
Thanks, Bob. I will give FI a try, as I've had the situation you've
described with icon changes.
Mike Sa
> (S) jv16 Powertools
> http://registry/system/file/network-utility
:-)
http://www.jv16.org ?
It's not for Win95 so I haven't tried it.
--
Anne
Since Windows needs a restart more often than not, you might as well
restart than fix the icons. Perhaps the icon mess-up is just a symptom of
other bad stuff under the hood?
ps. I recently bought a PowerMac G4 for someone that needs a lot of
tutoring on using a computer. I'll be learning myself to teach her, and
hopefully distancing myself more from Windows.
The windows system resource meter uses a lot of resources! QuickResource I
think uses 1% or so. Hmmm... saved some data once... hold on.
(warning... some payware listed for comparison)
email clients:
outlook express 9%
roundabout 8%
phoenix mail 8%
thebat 6%
foxmail v3.11 5%
vivian mail 4%
pimmy 3%
i.scribe 3%
popcorn 2%
npop 2%
others:
personalbrain 6%
hotkeys 6%
microplanet gravity 6%
metapad 1%
proxomitron 1%
clipomatic 2%
xreminder pro 3%
mouseimp pro 1%
quickresource 1%
I never did get a clear answer as to what system resources are exactly...
or maybe it was above my head. I think it has to do with graphics that
programs use... if an app has lots of fancy graphics then it uses a lot of
system resources (that's probably an over-over-over-simplification).
I just think that with the abuse I give my mouse, I'll probably be giving
out commands left and right by mistake. I've known about this kind of app
for a long time. I think I'd rather use something like Hotkeys... but
given I've never tried StrokeIt, I can't really say, or vote for it for
that matter. Another way is to just tell your computer what to do with
voice recognition. For now I like a mouse with multiple buttons. My mouth
is watering at the Logitech MX700. Xmas is coming up ya know :D
Hello Bob,
Nice write-up. Just downloaded it to try. Should be noted that program
is for WIN95/98 only...
Susan
>>> Mouse Tools:
>>> StrokeIt
>>> http://www.tcbmi.com/strokeit/
>>
>>StrokeIt hasn't been seconded, so it's possible that many of you are
>>not familiar with mouse gestures. Mouse gestures are being used in
>>some of the latest browsers as a new way to input program commands.
>>There are mouse gestures for opening single and multiple links, paging
>>forward and back, adding bookmarks, and so on. The virtue of StrokeIt
>>is that it isn't limited to browsers. Mouse gestures can be configured
>>for any program, or for Windows itself.
>
> I just think that with the abuse I give my mouse, I'll probably be
> giving out commands left and right by mistake.
I have used this program. It is actually a pretty well-designed program.
However, I won't really call it priceless. I don't think the program is
"quite there" yet because it does not recognize or learn well on some new
user-customized stroke pattern (it got confuse sometimes).
If you want it to replace the quick launcher you have, you want it to be
able to recognize patterns that the user can easily remember. That, will
then be "better" than hoc-keys because one limitation about hoc-keys is
that they are hard to remember.
Yet, Strokeit has its limitation on that. It is therefore good only for
certain commonly use commands (because they are more intuitive). But,
the shortcut keys to those "universal" commands themselves (e.g., cut and
paste) are not really hard to remember, anyway, cause all programs use
them. Strokeit is just a matter of preference on how you want to launch
a program or do a command, but does not really offer great advantage over
others (say, if you have a good launchpad with one click to most programs
and if you already know all the command shortcut keys, you don't really
need to use mouse strokes).
--
RL
> On 21 Nov 2002 23:04:00 GMT, bob wrote:
>
> >> Mouse Tools:
> >> StrokeIt
> >> http://www.tcbmi.com/strokeit/
> >
> > StrokeIt hasn't been seconded, so it's possible that many of you are not
> > familiar with mouse gestures. Mouse gestures are being used in some of
> > the latest browsers as a new way to input program commands. There are
> > mouse gestures for opening single and multiple links, paging forward and
> > back, adding bookmarks, and so on. The virtue of StrokeIt is that it
> > isn't limited to browsers. Mouse gestures can be configured for any
> > program, or for Windows itself.
>
> I'll second that if it hasn't been already. Strokeit is IMHO the king of
> freeware utilities. I use it constantly, across just about all the
> programs I have, and the memory footprint on my box is just 84k. There
> seems to be no end to the tasks it can ease for me. Similar to powerpro in
> its value, but easier to use and at the end of the day more useful. Though
> powerpro is a close second.
I have a hard enough time remembering Hotkeys let alone
mouse gestures. Plus my arms don't always go where I want them too so I
think I will pass on this one.
Barnie
>
>> I never did get a clear answer as to what system resources are
>> exactly... or maybe it was above my head. I think it has to do with
>> graphics that programs use... if an app has lots of fancy graphics
>> then it uses a lot of system resources (that's probably an
>> over-over-over-simplification).
>
> I've never gotten a clear answer about resources AND it's over my
> head. But there apparently are three types of system resources. I
> believe (but could be wrong) that one type is more directly related to
> graphics than the others.
>
My knowledge to this is certainly limited, too. But have read once
somewhere on a simply anology on what system resource is (and anyone
should jump in to correct me if I got it wrong).
If I remember correctly: whenever a program is run on an OS, it is
telling the OS to do something. For running program, OS keeps track of
all the commands sent from each program to the OS. The way an OS do
this, is to have a "post-office" system, to assign
"addresses"/"mailboxes" to different running programs and store
coresponding commands according to the "addresses"/"mailboxes".
The system resource issue only matter to MSoperation systems, window98,
ME, or below, because the way these OSs were designed have "limited"
mailboxes (to put it simplier, the "post office" is not big enough in
those OSs). This was because the MS OS designers never thought that
hardware capacity can grow so fast to allow so many applications run at
the same time.
Thus, low on resources crashes have nothing to with hardware, but to the
OS, and defraging RAM does not help.
This "small-post-office" problem (related to kernal design) does not
exist in WinXP and Win2000, because those two use a different kernal
system.
I do not exactly remember quite clearly on which exact usage is for what,
but just remember that GUI, Sys, and User are resposible for commands of
different areas (can be thought of as three different type of
"addresses" in the "post-office") - I remember GUI, for example, was for
"Graphic Interface"
I know nothing more specific than that. I am sure there are others who
could jump in to add more :)
--
RL
>> Cooler:
>> (C) Rain 2.0
>> http://wald.heim.at/redwood/510971/rain20.zip
>> Waterfall
>> http://www.coastnet.com/~rcward/programs/wtrfl32.exe
>
> I use Waterfall as the CPU cooler for my laptop. I once tried Rain,
> but experienced problems. Though, sorry to say, I can't remember
> what those problems were. Would be interesting to hear stories from
> others who use CPU coolers. As yet, neither of these coolers have
> been seconded.
I use Another Task Manager 2.2, which had been pricelessware, for cooling
&killing..!
>> Start-Up Managers:
>> (C)(S) Startup Control Panel
> Startup Control Panel does everything I need. I can view, enable,
> disable and delete the processes that run at startup. I'm so
> completely satisfied with this program, I've never been tempted to
> try it's main competitor, Startup Cop.
I have tried competitors, but I've always stuck with Startup Control Panel!
>> Taskbar Utilities:
>> (S) RUNit
>> http://www.magister-lex.at/RUNit/index.html
> Thanks to whoever first recommended RUNit (rir3760?). I like RUNit so
> much that I switched to it from a shareware program I had been using
> for years. Using RUNit, I just move my mouse to the right side of
> the screen (my "hot area") and my launcher menu pops up. It's easier
> than any other program launcher to configure, because not only does
> it support drag and drop, but you don't have to open the main window
> to do this. Just drag a program to your "hot area", and the program
> automatically is entered into the launcher. This is by far the most
> effortless program launcher I have ever used.
>
> I also like the competing program, TrayBar, but it lacks some of the
> features of RUNit - no "hot area" on the screen, and no ability to
> drap and drop without opening the main program window. Also, I find
> that as a system tray program, it is extremely sensitive to any
> movements near it. When I run my mouse over the system tray to open
> another program, TrayBar inevitably opens up as well. I found that
> behavior annoying. After testing RUNit and TrayBar head-to-head, I
> happily decided upon RUNit.
This looks very similar to Hidden Menu 2.2, have you tried that one? It's my
favorite, but few people know it.
--
Greetings, Peter Passchier
> Learning about the three different "addresses" in the post office
> would be useful. They directly correspond to the three resource bars
> in Quick Resource. The GUI bar is the most stable. The System and
> User bars are the quickest to drop into the "danger zone" in response
> to the opening of programs and windows.
Hey, dug around a bit and found this, could be pretty helpful:
http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Window_memory.htm
> I can "see" these resource
> bars being drained, but don't understand why the GUI bar lags behind
> the rest.
GUI related to program interface. So, try, if you have programs that
have "skin" and "for-look" kind of stuff (and load tones of fonts), the
interface (graphic) will push the GUI way down.
Generally speaking, the only ways to solve the resource problem is to
load less programs, restart window, and make sure there is no resource
leak by having well-written programs (that is when you close the program,
make sure it gives window back the resource).
I am not awared of a whole bunch of utities (or free ones) that claim to
solve the window resource problem. But suspiciously, from I read around
on the descriptions, I think a ceased-developed program, AntiCrash, may
seemingly be claiming to do this:
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?500000004361
I have it on my 98se and I did from time to time fry up my OS to S=7% U=
7% G=44%. I have all my internet utities on (firewalls, webfilter, email
client, xnews, netlaunch, browser, Hampster server), and KeyNote (big
database) and excel, and tclockexe, launchbar, and a few other utities
all on. Still pretty stable, nothing bad happen.
But of course, I don't know if it works for everyone.
--
RL
For the most part, I see how much system resources drop when opening the
program... not including multiple windows or multiple instances of the same
program.
Complications in doing measurements:
-Some resources can be shared among apps (especially operating system
specific stuff... I think the majority of these resources are loaded with
apps you set to run at windows startup)
-Some poorly designed apps do not release all resources they loaded after
being closed down (especially outlook express), so if you start them up
again they appear to use less resources.
---sig---
The passenger-side rearview mirror for my car, sitting on a shelf in the
garage, correctly reads "objects in mirror are closer than they appear".
>
> I have tried competitors, but I've always stuck with Startup Control
> Panel!
Second for this opinion. This is one of the best I have tried.
--
RL
From reading this article, you can start to grasp one more reason why you
need a new OS for newer hardware. The older OS's just don't know how to
harness the new hardware's power. I read somewhere that after 128Mb of
RAM, Windows98 really doesn't really take full advantage of the extra RAM
available.
But rather than move to 2000 or XP, I'd recommend Linux to anyone...
including Darwin (the one on Apple OS X).
>But of course, I don't know if it works for everyone.
works for me... resources can get that low with no problem... just can't go
under zero :)
I use it before defragmenting the hard drive. I think blocks that are
currently being used cannot be moved during defragmentation.
>Macs are great. I'd still be on a Mac if I weren't a freeware junkie.
>Mac has limited freeware; it's mostly shareware and limited offerings at
>that.
>
>That said, once you get a Mac, you no longer NEED all those damn system
>utilities that we Windows folks collect by the dozens!
>
>bob
Limited freeware? With OS X being based on Darwin, which is a version of
Linux, I would think you could use most anything from freshmeat,
sourceforge, etc.
Actually, I was looking forward to having less choices <G>. Finding ACF
was a savior (we can weed stuff out faster as a group).
The only reason I can't drop hotkeys (even if it is a resource hog) is that
I have a key combination in place of Home and End (something I picked up
from using a laptop). When typing I often move around the paragraph,
editing what I've written as I go along. Rather than use my mouse, I use
the arrow keys (with a real fast repetition rate - you can set this in
the Control Panel). I find that quicker than locating the mouse in the
exact spot where I want to make changes in text. For Home and End, I use
the windows key with my pinky in combination with the left or right arrow,
respectively. This is faster to me than moving my hand up to the Home or
End keys, since I have my fingers on the arrow keys anyway.
Ditto for PageUp and PageDown with the up and down arrow keys.
Something else I miss from the laptop with a 90% sized keyboard: being able
to reach all the keys on the edges by stretching out my pinkies or ring
fingers... I have long slender fingers. I wish they made an 90% sized
ergonomic split keyboard.
AHEM!!!
Hidden Menu can use both an edge or a corner; I prefer a corner, can RunIt
do that?
> Also, I didn't see any mention of drag and drop. That's one of the
> great features of RUNit. Drag an icon to your hot zone and it
> automatically is entered into the launcher menu.
It has full drag & drop, which makes it very easy to add items to it. Also,
the color scheme is fullly adjustable, so it can look as you want it. And
the hotkey can be defined with any combination of Win/Ctrl/Alt/Shift and any
key; how about RunIt??
The great thing about Hidden Menu (I don't know about RunIt) is that it is
independent of the Explorer shell. If you shut down the desktop, it still
works, and you can launch Explorer to get your dektop back. Also it's low on
resources and very stable. I'm not sure I tried RunIt, but I've tried so
many and all were not as good as Hidden Menu -which does all I want- so I
quit.
--
Greetings, Peter Passchier
Alex Nichol is an expert, I used to see his posts.
What newsgroup do you see his posts in?
Thanks,
Mike Sa
> Yes, I had seen that program before, but was put off by the large size
> (4.53MB). Probably is a resource hog too. ;)
>
Actually not. Although the measure could vary, depending on how exactly
one would measure it. But on mine, it does not take up more than a few
percentage. The large size come from the component it bundles with (e.g.,
it has a backup manager and other tasks monitor utilities).
--
RL
Did I miss the entry for Context Edit? I've just started using this program
and have had wonderful success with it.
--
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Poet & Writer
http://www.geocities.com/janicechandler/index.html
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Yes, I now remember trying this, and you're right: we're both very happy!
Now how can we make other people aware of the possibility of greater
happiness ;-)
>> Win/Ctrl/Alt/Shift and any key; how about RunIt??
> There IS hotkey support, but I've never used it. It seems
> superfluous. I mean why use a hotkey when just moving the mouse to
> the hot area is so convenient?
Often it's much faster to use a key combination to start an application that
to grab your mouse, move it and click... But I can choose which is most
convenient for the moment.
>> The great thing about Hidden Menu (I don't know about RunIt) is that
>> it is independent of the Explorer shell. If you shut down the
>> desktop, it still works, and you can launch Explorer to get your
>> dektop back.
> Not sure what you mean by "shutting down the desktop", but if I ever
> have an Explorer error and lose the system tray, RUNit is always
> available (since it doesn't use the system tray). I'm not sure how
> else to judge it's independence from Explorer. Maybe you can explain
> that "shutting down the desktop" a little more.
Indeed I like it that I can still use the launcher in case of an explorer
crash like when you lose your system tray; but also if you kill Explorer
totally (with a process manager) ending up with a 'blank' screen without
bars & buttons, Hidden Menu still works (and can eg. restart your desktop).
So, will our enthousiasm get them both pricelessnessware status??
--
Greetings, Peter Passchier
>On 23 Nov 2002 05:28:25 GMT, bob <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>BoB wrote:
>>
>>>bob wrote:
>>>>ms wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Bob. I will give FI a try, as I've had the situation you've
>>>>> described with icon changes.
>>>>>
>>>>For people who've never had the problem of changing icons, they
>>>>probably don't see what the fuss is about. But for those of us who
>>>>do, it IS a big deal! And Fresh Icons is the best solution I've
>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Since I forgot to provide the full download link, here it is:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.moonsoftware.com/files/frico100.zip
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alex Nichol MVP, suggests the effect can happen because the default
>>> value for the max size of the Icon cache is too small. If you are not
>>> familiar with working directly in the registry, make the lines below,
>>> after - - start and before - - end into a file say patch.reg
>>> Don't let it wrap the line [HKEY. . explorer].
>>> Then double click to enter it into the registry.
>>>
>>> - - start
>>> REGEDIT4
>>>
>>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer]
>>> "Max Cached Icons"="2048"
>>>
>>> - - end
>>>
>>> Also refreshing the shelliconcache file in C:\windows, by deleting it
>>> so it will rebuild on the next boot may resolve such problems.
>>
>>Thanks BoB. Actually, I tried changing the value of the icon cache. In
>>fact I downloaded a special reg file to do it. But I didn't notice any
>>effect. I also tried a program that I think deleted the cache because it
>>required a reboot. It worked, but the effect was temporary. So I tried
>>going a different route. That brought me to Icon Fresh.
>>
>>I debated at the time whether a "niche" program like Icon Fresh should be
>>included in the Pricelessware list. But it does it's job perfectly, with
>>no negatives, so I thought I'd give it a shot. If nothing else, it's one
>>of those priceless Boomer apps! But it may be borderline for the
>>Pricelessware list. On the other hand, Quick Resources, another niche
>>program, more realistically deserves consideration for the list IMO.
>>While only some of use may have icon problems, ALL of us have to deal
>>with resource issues at one time or another.
>>
>>bob
>
>IF sounds similar to IconSaver [29k exe and a 49k dll]. On the occasions
>when I have to defrag in safemode my desktop icons get completely
>screwed up. I found IS to resolve my problem. These niche programs do
>need an easy way to locate them if not within Priceless.
>
>BoB
I would note that you may already have a great icon rebuilding program
on your machine already - Themes. It is part of the Win 9x Plus!
package and is built into Windows ME\2K. For Win ME\2K you simply type
"themes" ( no quotes ) into the Run box. Whether you select it that
way or it is in your Start Menu, simply choose to Export Theme and
name it whatever you want. Then if yoursystem icons get screwed-up
you just have to delete ShellIconCache, import the Theme and run
Rebuild Icons in Tweak UI. You can also edit the .theme file manually
with notepad should an icon, or two, change location or you want to
make small changes for individual users as this snippet from a .theme
file shows:
[CLSID\{450D8FBA-AD25-11D0-98A8-0800361B1103}\DefaultIcon]
DefaultValue=D:\Program Files\Object
Desktop\IconPackager\Themes\FauxS-XPCobaltV1-5\FauxS-XP (Cobalt) V1.5
Icon 32.ico,0
[Additional Icons]
Programs=D:\Program Files\Object
Desktop\IconPackager\Themes\FauxS-X(Cobalt)\FauxS-X (Cobalt) Icon
8.ico,0
Favorites=%WinDir%system32\shell32.dll,-173
Settings=D:\Program Files\Object
Desktop\IconPackager\Themes\FauxS-X(Cobalt)\FauxS-X (Cobalt) Icon
11.ico,0
Find=D:\Program Files\Object
Desktop\IconPackager\Themes\FauxS-X(Cobalt)\FauxS-X (Cobalt) Icon
12.ico,0
Help=D:\Program Files\Object
Desktop\IconPackager\Themes\FauxS-X(Cobalt)\FauxS-X (Cobalt) Icon
13.ico,0
>BoB wrote:
>>
>> On 21 Nov 2002 19:21:48 GMT, bob <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >ms<m...@nospa.com> wrote in news:3DDCF819...@teleport.com:
SNIP
>> Alex Nichol MVP, suggests the effect can happen because the default
>> value for the max size of the Icon cache is too small. If you are not
>> familiar with working directly in the registry, make the lines below,
>> after - - start and before - - end into a file say patch.reg
>> Don't let it wrap the line [HKEY. . explorer].
>> Then double click to enter it into the registry.
>>
>> - - start
>> REGEDIT4
>>
>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer]
>> "Max Cached Icons"="2048"
>>
>> - - end
>>
>> Also refreshing the shelliconcache file in C:\windows, by deleting it so
>> it will rebuild on the next boot may resolve such problems.
>>
>> BoB
>
>Alex Nichol is an expert, I used to see his posts.
>
>What newsgroup do you see his posts in?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike Sa
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
alt.windows98
BoB
update...
Resource Tools:
(C)(S) Quick Resource
http://am-productions.yi.org/getprod.php?pcode=QuickResource
site says 95/98 but readme file says:
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: Win9x, Me
Susan
There appears to be many alternatives to handle this problem. For any
collectors out there, I ran across this comment today.
"A great freeware (actually SillyWare) program called "Iconoid" from
SillySot Software, found at http://www.sillysot.com/. The program can
memorize and auto-restore desktop icon locations at various resolutions
as well as provide a number of other useful desktop icon functions."
Haven't tried it yet.
BoB
Actually, have come to find out this isn't true. This is because the
hardware is different (not an x86 box). However... many in the Linux
community have taken a liking to OS X and AFAIK are porting stuff over
feverishly.
Does anyone know of a pricelessware type web page or freeware newsgroup
specifically for OS X?