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None of Your Business

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Subj: new energy source?
Date: 8/5/01 11:22:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: krissaxx...@offshore.ai (krissa)
To: adminxxx...@rebusfoundation.com (PT)

Forwarded to me:

Aaron :::) Please forward to Rob Grantham

Hi Everyone:

This looks very interesting. Our own government has been covering up
what they also have developed along these lines. Probably the same or
similar technology as was revealed by the Disclosure Project held May 9
at the Washington DC press club. I highly recommend getting the tapes
and viewing them. The US government hiding the technology has back
engineered from crashed UFO's, possibly shooting some of them down, They
have let the Russians beat them to the punch with this announcement.
Order the videos of the Disclosure Project Press Conference at:
http//www.disclousreproject.org

Regards Frank

Subj: [SO] Reported Sensational Russian Materials Science Breakthrough
???
Date: 8/3/01 8:27:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: orb...@iinet.net.au (Harry Mason)
To: Sky...@yahoogroups.com (SKYOPEN Post Message)


Has this been on the newswires yet ? If it has, I appear to have missed it.
Here's a copy FYI. If you guys have any data on this I'd appreciate
hearing more. If you can plough through the Pravda Russian-English
translation it gets more informative further in - but still lacks specifics
..............

Regards Harry Mason


Story originally published by Pravda / Russia - July 25 2001
Russian Sensation: New Energy Source To Power Everything - Pravda Releases
[Original headline: A NEW WAY TO PRODUCE ENERGY DISCOVERED BY RUSSIAN
SCIENTISTS. USING NUCLEAR FUEL, GAS, OIL AND COAL CAN BE REFUSED]
Russian scientists have made a sensational discovery. Some fundamental
investigations realized by them could entail a real revolution on the field
of industry and power engineering and allow to make series of new
inventions.
Traditional ways of producing energy are becoming now unworkable.
Completely new materials and technologies are being created. In particular,
it is possible today to build so-called airborne vehicles of non-supported
moving, like UFO.

According to the Russian Academy of Science member, Doctor of Technics
Valeri Sobolev, a special electrochemical process has been discovered -
"exhausting process" - which results in appearing high-temperature materials
in a new condition". Therefore a new condition of a material, a new power
source and a new superconducting matter have been received and magnetic
charge has been discovered.

Scientists are intending now to work out completely new current sources for
domestic and industry aims, which could continuously produce energy without
using any kinds of fuel. It would allow to renounce using nuclear fuel, gas,
oil and coal. Environment's condition could be bettered too. On the basis of
"exhausting process" new ultrastrong materials are supposed to be created,
which could be used in producing cars, planes and rockets. Metals and other
constructing materials could be replaced with them.

The group of scientists has already sent a letter addressed to the Russian
President, which informs about their discoveries. Now is the state's turn to
give a government contractual work

Info On Sensational Energy Source Discovery
http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/nrussen.htm

Our site published the information yesterday about the new sensational
discovery made by the Russian scientists. The head of the group of those
scientists was academician Valerian Sobolev. The published material caused a
wild discussion on the Forum of PRAVDA.Ru, there were some appeals to give
more details about that discovery. We admit that we had more general phrases
in that material than the actual facts.

Today we have an opportunity to give more details regarding Sobolev's
discovery. RIA Novosty distributed the statement released by academician
Valerian Sobolev:

The statement from academician Valerian Sobolev, the head of the group of
scientists who made several scientific discoveries.

"The group of scientists which I am the head of made 7 discoveries. This
was a breakthrough in the knowledge. We discovered the new objectively
existing regularities of the material world which were not known to the
humanity before. This opens new horizons to our country in terms of economy
and social field. The discoveries make it possible to get cheap electric
power, create new aircrafts with the new engines, produce the new
construction materials that will be very strong but much lighter. These
discoveries will surely become the property of the people from all
countries,
they will make their life easier, more comfortable, they will improve the
quality of life fundamentally. However, for the time being our group of
scientists would like those discoveries to be realized on the territory of
Russia. We let the Russian President know about that.

These discoveries will be the ground for the principally new technologies,
they will have a huge impact on development of technology and energy. We
believe our discoveries have a fundamental significance for profound
understanding of the material world around us. For instance it will be
possible to create the new technologies for production of sources of the
extremely cheap electric power without using conventional energy carriers
like nuclear fuel, oil, gas or coal. When manufacturing the new aircrafts
there can be used the new ways for them to move both in the air and in the
outer space like UFO.

These discoveries are connected with an opportunity to create the
principally new materials which have not existed before.

I will enumerate those discoveries. There are 7 of them:


THE NEW SUBSTANCE CONDITION was discovered which is characterized with
the nonstoichiometric nature of the composition. Qualitative and structural
nature of these substances can not be explained from the point of view of
chemical laws which are known nowadays. The substance in this condition may
radiate the time-changing magnetic flux;
- THE NEW CLASS OF MATERIALS was discovered uniting the mentioned
substances in the new condition. Owing to the new composition they possess a
wide range of new qualities: they can generate electric power or have a
possibility to generate the low-temperature-plasma which is easy to get
under
the usual productive procedures. They can also become the ground to create
superconductors working in positive low temperatures. Some of them can have
several of the mentioned qualities at once;

- THE SPECIAL SELECTIVE ELECTROCHEMICAL PROCESS was discovered. This
allows to produce the new class of materials from a number of oxide melts.
We
called that influence on conventional materials as "DEPLETION PROCESS". As a
result of such processing the electrons from oxide melts come off the outer
orbits or get removed which provides for forming the unusual structures with
a line of absolutely new qualities;

- THE MAGNETIC CHARGE WAS EXPERIMENTALLY DISCOVERED This was
theoretically forecasted by several scientists earlier - in 1931. It was
believed it could be a magnetic monopole - some magnetic particle with a
micro-charge. We discovered and experimentally proved with 100 per cent
recurrence rate that not a particle but the substance in the new condition
had that quality, i.e. the entire environment and the generally organized
structures in it;

- THE NEW ENERGY SOURCE was discovered. The materials (entire
environment) having the magnetic charge are the new energy source. Radiating
the magnetic flux, they create the electromotive force in conductors, to be
more precise - in the conductive circuit. Such materials together with those
circuits make up the new physical current source. We called that current
source contrary to the chemically received current source. The power of the
physical current is replenished owing to the power of the natural force
fields of the Earth. Therefore, the source does not require the traditional
hydrocarbon, nuclear energy carriers or the power of the Sun, wind and the
like. It can work under any climate conditions. Such a source can be
manufactured in the form of the autonomous device of the household or
industrial purpose, producing free electric power.

A little bit of explanation. The substance in the NEW CONDITION, like any
other one is in the natural force fields of the Earth (electric, magnetic,
temperature - exterior towards the substance). But unlike conventional
substances this one has the magnetic charge. It can change its shape, kind
and type of the fields surrounding it. For example, the directional magnetic
field of the Earth can be accumulated to the distributed magnetic field
which
possesses power like any other field. That is why these new materials are
capable of replenishing their power from the environment which is different
from the conventional substances around us. We proved that mechanism
experimentally: the substance which produced the 300 volt current was
working
on the level of 300 volts again after the 4-hour disconnection. The
substance
restored its "voltage" because it took the power from the natural fields of
the Earth around it.

Thus the discovered phenomenon does not break the law about energy
conservation. This energy is not taken from "nowhere" and does not go
"nowhere" either. It only changes its shape. The substance becomes the
source
of the electromotive force for a long period in any conductor introduced in
the space of that substance. This substance has a transitional, I would like
to emphasize it - the non-standard magnetic field.

For a start we plan to produce autonomous devices on the ground of the
new substance condition - the 3 kilowatt current source;

- METHOD TO GENERATE THE LOW-TEMPERATURE PLASMA was discovered. On the
ground of the "depletion process" we derived the substances capable of
generating the low-temperature plasma of the charged particles. They carry
the charge of one character and that is why it is real to produce the
SUPERCONDUCTROR on the ground of the new plasma generating devices. This
will
allow to create the new movers for aircrafts for example, including the
so-called "unsupported" movement like UFO has.

REFERENCE: Valerian Markovish Sobolev. Academician of the Russian Academy
of Natural Sciences, Lenin and State prize winner, Doctor of Technical
Sciences, professor. The director of the Research Institute Science of
Materials of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences. The author of more
than
300 scientific works and inventions.

PRAVDA.Ru invites our readers to discuss this issue. We have already
informed academician Sobolev will give a press-conference in Moscow and our
correspondent will be present there. Which questions would you like to ask
to
the author of those discoveries? Which of those 7 discoveries would you like
to learn more about? Please feel free to send your questions to the Letters
to the Editor from this moment till 9:00 a.m. July 26, 2001 (Moscow time).
We
will try to ask academician Sobolev our readers' basic questions at his
press-conference tomorrow.

<end forwarded message>

Regards,
JW

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force!
Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
--- George Washington

"That's all very nice Mr. Tesla but where do we put the meter?"
J.P. Morgan


fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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Sounds just conspiratorial enough and weird enough to appeal to your addled
so-called brain, Junior Wanker.
It could be almost any misconception or mismeasurement craziness considering
the garbled language.

And here it is, August 6, 2001 and we have not heard the total huzzahs from
the world wide press for the spectacular revelations at the press conference
arranged by Pravda. Why no follow up? I know the governments of all the
other countries in the world are in a vast conspiracy to hide this stuff
from their citizens. But niether really can get past the Junior Wanker.

Why don't you go back to harassing that Santa Barbara policeman.

BTW I noticed your carefully avoided correcting someone's assumption that
you were taking classes as the U of C Santa Barbara as opposed to what you
originally admitted was Santa Barbara City College (a community college not
a university.)

OK, duck everybody, here comes the electronically propelled filth from the
Junior Wanker.

FK


None of Your Business

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Aug 7, 2001, 2:29:12 AM8/7/01
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In article <9kn3ng$t1q$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>BTW I noticed your carefully avoided correcting someone's assumption that
>you were taking classes as the U of C Santa Barbara

I took all my higher level accounbting courses there to be able to sit for the
CPA exam I passed ALL 4 parts of in the first sitting.

>as opposed to what you
>originally admitted was Santa Barbara City College (a community college not
>a university.)

I noticed your reading comprehenion still sucks as I said I went to both
schools.

fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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And never corrected the assumption by the reader that you lectured at the U
of C Santa Barbara as opposed to being a student in a class in Santa Barbara
City College. Not that some community colleges don't provide good education
(depends on the instructors) but what about one who would let you use his
class to lecture about stuff you don't understand ...
FK


fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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And I notice you have not gotten that CPA. Can't get an accounting firm to
hire you to finish the requirements for the CPA. Rather like the person who
says they almost have a Ph.D. (just didn't get around to doing the
research.)

FK

You're a loser, Junior Wanker.

None of Your Business

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In article <9kq97u$g0l$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>And never corrected the assumption by the reader that you lectured at the U

>of C Santa Barbara.

Liar.
You can't read. That has been clearly established.

None of Your Business

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In article <9kq9bl$gou$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>And I notice you have not gotten that CPA. Can't get an accounting firm to
>hire you to finish the requirements for the CPA.

Fred you are a Moron.
Everyone who passes the CPA exam does not get a certificate and go into PUBLIC
practice in some seat shop working 60-80 hours a week doing mostly tax work
acting as an unpaid bill collector for the gooberment. Then after all the
ulcers from office pollitics and your wife and 3 kids leave you because you are
a workaholic and forgot for what life was really living.

Gee why didn't I get that government benefit certificate so I could audit
PUBLIC financial statements of PUBLIC firms created as a benefit by the
gooberment so they can tax the profits from the gooberment sanctioned entity
and all it's shareholders?

Couldn't be because I dn't want to do PUBLIC accounting could it?
Or as I said, maybe I have no arms or hands and cannot hold down a real job.

Fred, did you call that stupid copper yet to find out who I really am?
You been having your underwear in a bunch over it for years and now is your
chance to find out.

fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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Why bother. Sooner or later we'll see it in the newspapers after you are
sent away for tax fraud.
FK


fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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Not true at all. The person who remarked on it referred to it as U. of C.
Santa Barbara. That was as plain as could be. But you never corrected him.
Why, because you wanted people to think that you were a lecturer at that
university as opposed to a student at a community college.
The truth is not in you at all, Junior Wanker.
FK


None of Your Business

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Aug 9, 2001, 2:31:41 AM8/9/01
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In article <9kt7er$h05$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>Not true at all. The person who remarked on it referred to it as U. of C.
>Santa Barbara. That was as plain as could be. But you never corrected him.
>Why, because you wanted people to think that you were a lecturer at that
>university as opposed to a student at a community college.
>The truth is not in you at all, Junior Wanker.
>FK
>

Good night Gracy.

None of Your Business

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In article <9kt7a5$g97$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>> Fred, did you call that stupid copper yet to find out who I really am?
>> You been having your underwear in a bunch over it for years and now is
>your
>> chance to find out.
>>
>> JW
>>
>>
>

>Why bother. Sooner or later we'll see it in the newspapers after you are
>sent away for tax fraud.
>FK

Oh brother.
You welch on even finding out who I am from a real copper.
You choke LIKE A YOU GOT A DICKIN YOUR MOUTH.
You are the biggest woos on the net Fred.
You have taunted and called me a fraud for 4.5 years here and now, you and ALL
your cronies choke, choke, choke.
You are a piece of lazy dirt Fred.
Hahahaha, is the kind of science you do?
You have a copper that will ID me for you and you go chicken.
All of you are chicken shit.
You won't try Meyer's circuit because you are afraid it works and you will have
to change your antiquated paradigm and that will just make you hack.
You are all the most pitiful bunch of panty waists I ever MET.

Don Widders

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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We pitiful panty waist chicken shits are probably incapable of constructing
such a magnificent example of advanced technology as Meyer's circuit, so
would you please take care of that for us, JW? It should be easy for you,
JW, after all that time you spent with the master himself. You're not a
pitiful panty waist chicken shit are you, JW?

Don Widders


Nonnaho

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Aug 9, 2001, 3:43:48 PM8/9/01
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Then why the hell did you spend the time pursuing this line of work in
college?

Do you always waste your time pursuing things you don't intend to use?

Me thinks this sounds like sour grapes!

> >
> > Fred, did you call that stupid copper yet to find out who I really am?
> > You been having your underwear in a bunch over it for years and now is
> > your
> > chance to find out.
> >
> > JW

Every one of your insane post tells us all exactly who you are. A
name is not required to understand how mentally disturbed you are.

> Why bother. Sooner or later we'll see it in the newspapers after you are
> sent away for tax fraud.
> FK

That's only because he'll be a victim of a world wide conspiracy! :-)


Nonnaho

None of Your Business

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Aug 9, 2001, 6:27:23 PM8/9/01
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The Fred Krasner Straight Man Clone writes:

Ever heard of PRIVATE accounting Einstein?
The ONLY thing a CPA can do that a regular accountant cannot do "is audit the
financial staements of PUBLIC Companies." Capital C, a legal entity created by
the government which is a benefit that requires a certificate in order to
benefit by it's use.

>Do you always waste your time pursuing things you don't intend to use?
>

I use most all knowledge I have collected at one time or another and together.
You obviously have little knowledge to use or contribute as you have shown here
incessantly.

>Me thinks this sounds like sour grapes!
>

I like grapes.
What about them?

>> >
>> > Fred, did you call that stupid copper yet to find out who I really am?
>> > You been having your underwear in a bunch over it for years and now is
>> > your
>> > chance to find out.
>> >
>> > JW
>
>Every one of your insane post tells us all exactly who you are. A
>name is not required to understand how mentally disturbed you are.

Yea right.
"You can't handle the truth!!!"
JN

>> Why bother. Sooner or later we'll see it in the newspapers after you are
>> sent away for tax fraud.
>> FK
>
>That's only because he'll be a victim of a world wide conspiracy! :-)
>
>
>Nonnaho
>

Later Einstein.

fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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Anything YOU want me to do is almost certainly a very bad idea. Why are you
so intent on having me call that police sergeant? Is he some kind of shill
for you?

As for your sense of humor, why do you laugh at your own very unfunny jokes?
Who else is laughing with you as opposed to about you?

The most hilarious thing about you is your insistence that I must build one
of those Meyer cells to prove your claim. Why instead don't you build the
cell to prove your claim. Haven't you read enough science yet to find out
that it is the responsibility of the claimant to do the experiments of
unusual claims to provide the unusual proof and not the responsibility of
the critic to do the experiments to disprove the unusual claims. Answer
that. I doubt that you will even attempt to answer it.

FK


None of Your Business

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In article <9kvm96$4gg$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
>news:20010809023142...@nso-fi.aol.com...
>> In article <9kt7a5$g97$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner"
><fka...@enteract.com>
>> writes:
>>
>> >> Fred, did you call that stupid copper yet to find out who I really am?
>> >> You been having your underwear in a bunch over it for years and now is
>> >your
>> >> chance to find out.
>> >>
>> >> JW
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Why bother. Sooner or later we'll see it in the newspapers after you are
>> >sent away for tax fraud.
>> >FK
>>

Chickenshit.

>> Oh brother.
>> You welch on even finding out who I am from a real copper.
>> You choke LIKE A YOU GOT A DICKIN YOUR MOUTH.
>> You are the biggest woos on the net Fred.
>> You have taunted and called me a fraud for 4.5 years here and now, you and
>ALL
>> your cronies choke, choke, choke.
>> You are a piece of lazy dirt Fred.
>> Hahahaha, is the kind of science you do?
>> You have a copper that will ID me for you and you go chicken.
>> All of you are chicken shit.
>> You won't try Meyer's circuit because you are afraid it works and you will
>have
>> to change your antiquated paradigm and that will just make you hack.
>> You are all the most pitiful bunch of panty waists I ever MET.
>>
>> JW
>>
>

>Anything YOU want me to do is almost certainly a very bad idea. Why are you
>so intent on having me call that police sergeant? Is he some kind of shill
>for you?
>

Chickenshit.

>As for your sense of humor, why do you laugh at your own very unfunny jokes?
>Who else is laughing with you as opposed to about you?
>

Chickenshit.

>The most hilarious thing about you is your insistence that I must build one
>of those Meyer cells to prove your claim. Why instead don't you build the
>cell to prove your claim. Haven't you read enough science yet to find out
>that it is the responsibility of the claimant to do the experiments of
>unusual claims to provide the unusual proof and not the responsibility of
>the critic to do the experiments to disprove the unusual claims. Answer
>that. I doubt that you will even attempt to answer it.
>
>FK
>

Chickenshit.

fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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Ah so that's it. Your name is chickenshit. And all the while we thought it
was based on the initials JW. Is that your family name "Chickenshit"? Or is
that your given name "Chickenshit W."?
Naw I can't believe that your mother would marry a guy named "Chickenshit."
However that could very well be your given name.

I see how why you keep interspersing the text with Chickenshit. You are
merely putting your stamp on the text.

And all I ask now is why you haven't built a Meyer cell instead of asking
others (especially your critics) to build one for your purposes.

Just answer that one question, Chickenshit, why haven't you built one?

FK


None of Your Business

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In article <9l40f5$9cp$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>Just answer that one question, Chickenshit, why haven't you built one?
>
>FK

Where did I say I didn't?
Why would I believe my own ressults if you wouldn't?
Why would I not want INDEPENDENT verification?
Why do you incessantly disrupt threads by peole WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT?

John Riley

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On 12 Aug 2001 06:09:20 GMT, h2o...@aol.comic (None of Your Business)
wrote:

>Where did I say I didn't?

So you did?

>Why would I believe my own ressults if you wouldn't?

Self-confidence?

>Why would I not want INDEPENDENT verification?

You have something to hide?

>Why do you incessantly disrupt threads by peole WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT?

Where do these "EXPERIMENTERS" publish the results of their
experiments?

Regards John Riley West Oz

fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
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Nonsense, Junior Wanker. Not only do you not have the foggiest notion of the
meaning of the word incessantly but you also have embarrassed yourself again
with a round of blather. Once again why haven't you actually made a cell
that does what you claim it can do. And why haven't you done this yourself
instead of expecting your critics to verify your claim? Prove your claim.
Don't expect your critics to prove it for you.

Still waiting for you to stop lying about that wonderful "nice guy banker"
J.P. Morgan. You can't prove that "quote" so I am free to insist it is a
lie, Junior Wanker.

FK


None of Your Business

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Aug 13, 2001, 1:41:31 AM8/13/01
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In article <1oucnt8r54l5svasr...@4ax.com>, John Riley
<john...@iinet.net.au> writes:

Who asked you?
Perfect snippage too ass.

None of Your Business

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In article <9l7088$qti$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
>news:20010812020920...@nso-fc.aol.com...
>> In article <9l40f5$9cp$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner"
><fka...@enteract.com>
>> writes:
>>
>> >Just answer that one question, Chickenshit, why haven't you built one?
>> >
>> >FK
>>
>> Where did I say I didn't?
>> Why would I believe my own ressults if you wouldn't?
>> Why would I not want INDEPENDENT verification?
>> Why do you incessantly disrupt threads by peole WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT?
>>
>> JW
>>
>

>Nonsense, Junior Wanker. Not only do you not have the foggiest notion of the
>meaning of the word incessantly but you also have embarrassed yourself again
>with a round of blather. Once again why haven't you actually made a cell
>that does what you claim it can do. And why haven't you done this yourself
>instead of expecting your critics to verify your claim?

Pea brain.
I don't expect "critics" to do anything Moron.
They are critics, NOT experimenters.


>Prove your claim.
>Don't expect your critics to prove it for you.
>

You haven't a clue.

>Still waiting for you to stop lying about that wonderful "nice guy banker"
>J.P. Morgan. You can't prove that "quote" so I am free to insist it is a
>lie, Junior Wanker.
>
>FK
>

I notice NO answers to any of the questions.
Fraud.

John Riley

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Aug 13, 2001, 3:28:00 AM8/13/01
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On 13 Aug 2001 05:41:31 GMT, h2o...@aol.comic (None of Your Business)
wrote:

>In article <1oucnt8r54l5svasr...@4ax.com>, John Riley
><john...@iinet.net.au> writes:
>
>>On 12 Aug 2001 06:09:20 GMT, h2o...@aol.comic (None of Your Business)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Where did I say I didn't?
>>
>>So you did?
>>
>>>Why would I believe my own ressults if you wouldn't?
>>
>>Self-confidence?
>>
>>>Why would I not want INDEPENDENT verification?
>>
>>You have something to hide?
>>
>>>Why do you incessantly disrupt threads by peole WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT?
>>
>>Where do these "EXPERIMENTERS" publish the results of their
>>experiments?

>Who asked you?

You did! Remember? You posted on a public forum - UseNet.

>Perfect snippage too ass.

I don't recall I snipped anything. What did you have in mind?

fkasner

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Aug 13, 2001, 3:57:41 PM8/13/01
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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
news:20010813014131...@nso-md.aol.com...

Still believe that invective filth is an appropriate answer to a scientific
criticism? I also believe that you never built any Meyer type cell or you
would have already profited from the results if they really were what you
claim they are. With all your political blather about taxes and other things
that get you so exorcised you should have already started your commercial
exploitation of what you claim for the Meyer water cell. You haven't. You
can't. It doesn't exist. You are either a total fantasist or an outright
liar. I suspect both.

Duck people, incoming turds.

FK


None of Your Business

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Aug 14, 2001, 1:42:38 AM8/14/01
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In article <f50fnt4hftr3lhd1f...@4ax.com>, John Riley
<john...@iinet.net.au> writes:

>>>>Why do you incessantly disrupt threads by peole WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT?
>>>
>>>Where do these "EXPERIMENTERS" publish the results of their
>>>experiments?
>
>>Who asked you?
>
>You did! Remember? You posted on a public forum - UseNet.
>
>>Perfect snippage too ass.
>
>I don't recall I snipped anything. What did you have in mind?
>
>Regards John Riley West Oz
>

Another FKSRC graduate strikes.

None of Your Business

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Aug 14, 2001, 1:44:46 AM8/14/01
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In article <9l9bej$f4u$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com>
writes:

>You are either a total fantasist or an outright
>liar. I suspect both.
>
>Duck people, incoming turds.
>
>FK

Good.
You've stated your OPINION now go away.

John Riley

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Aug 14, 2001, 2:36:33 AM8/14/01
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On 14 Aug 2001 05:42:38 GMT, h2o...@aol.comic (None of Your Business)
wrote:

>In article <f50fnt4hftr3lhd1f...@4ax.com>, John Riley


><john...@iinet.net.au> writes:
>
>>>>>Why do you incessantly disrupt threads by peole WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT?
>>>>
>>>>Where do these "EXPERIMENTERS" publish the results of their
>>>>experiments?
>>
>>>Who asked you?
>>
>>You did! Remember? You posted on a public forum - UseNet.
>>
>>>Perfect snippage too ass.
>>
>>I don't recall I snipped anything. What did you have in mind?
>>
>>Regards John Riley West Oz
>>
>
>Another FKSRC graduate strikes.

Explain where I have misunderstood you.
I think your problem is that I've understood you too well, and this
tired old retort is the best you can do.

fkasner

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Aug 15, 2001, 12:07:59 AM8/15/01
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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
news:20010814014238...@nso-ch.aol.com...

Still publishing the lie above? What a hopeless self deluded Junior Wanker.
FK


fkasner

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"None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
news:20010814014446...@nso-ch.aol.com...

But at least it is clear that I have opinions rather than fantasies. In such
cases it is more appropriate for you to go away.

FK


lvhippy

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Aug 18, 2001, 12:29:04 PM8/18/01
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nice to see fuck face Riley wankering another group....

"fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com> wrote in message news:<9lcshq$n7n$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...

fkasner

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Aug 19, 2001, 2:36:19 PM8/19/01
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"lvhippy" <lvh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9687965.01081...@posting.google.com...

> nice to see fuck face Riley wankering another group....
>
>
>
> "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com> wrote in message
news:<9lcshq$n7n$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...
> > "None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message
> > news:20010814014238...@nso-ch.aol.com...
> > > In article <f50fnt4hftr3lhd1f...@4ax.com>, John Riley
> > > <john...@iinet.net.au> writes:
> > >
> > > >>>>Why do you incessantly disrupt threads by peole WHO WANT TO
> > EXPERIMENT?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Where do these "EXPERIMENTERS" publish the results of their
> > > >>>experiments?
> >
> > > >>Who asked you?
> > > >
> > > >You did! Remember? You posted on a public forum - UseNet.
> > > >
> > > >>Perfect snippage too ass.
> > > >
> > > >I don't recall I snipped anything. What did you have in mind?
> > > >
> > > >Regards John Riley West Oz
> > > >
> > >
> > > Another FKSRC graduate strikes.

Gee now he has me running a school. This from the guy who couldn't figure
out how to get a CPA certificate even though he insists he is an accountant.
He, of course, has a political reason for not having a CPA certificate.
FK

Nonnaho

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Aug 20, 2001, 10:52:29 AM8/20/01
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fkasner wrote:

<snip>

> > > "None of Your Business" <h2o...@aol.comic> wrote in message

<snip>

> > > > Another FKSRC graduate strikes.
>
> Gee now he has me running a school. This from the guy who couldn't figure
> out how to get a CPA certificate even though he insists he is an accountant.
> He, of course, has a political reason for not having a CPA certificate.
> FK
>
> > > > JW

If h2opwrd has ( or had ) political reasons for not getting a CPA
certificate, then why the hell would he go to school for it? I think
it's all sour grapes on his part. He couldn't cut it, so now he says
he didn't really want to be a CPA. And when his law suit against the
cop goes nowhere, he'll say he didn't really want to push it that far
also.


Nonnaho

None of Your Business

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Aug 21, 2001, 2:15:36 AM8/21/01
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In article <3B81242D...@all.org>, Nonnaho <NoBr...@all.org> writes:

>And when his law suit against the
>cop goes nowhere, he'll say he didn't really want to push it that far
>also.
>
>
>Nonnaho

You will NEVER know if it does.

John

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Aug 21, 2001, 6:43:13 AM8/21/01
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On 21 Aug 2001 06:15:36 GMT, h2o...@aol.comic (None of Your Business)
wrote:

>In article <3B81242D...@all.org>, Nonnaho <NoBr...@all.org> writes:


>
>>And when his law suit against the
>>cop goes nowhere, he'll say he didn't really want to push it that far
>>also.
>>
>>
>>Nonnaho

>You will NEVER know if it does.
>
>JW

Kind of like we'll never know if Stan Meyer's water fuel cell was for
real, huh?


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