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David Kendrick

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Nov 13, 2002, 10:09:21 PM11/13/02
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Hello fellow m.t.road-geeks:

It has been a couple of months since I've been able to devote any
attention to the Shield Generator web site. I apologize for the down time.

I am going to be rewriting it using some new technologies over the next
couple weeks. During that time, if anyone has any realistic suggestions for
improvement, please, by all means, post them to m.t.r, and I'll see what I
can work in.


THANKS!


US 71

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Nov 14, 2002, 12:04:25 AM11/14/02
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Please repost the URL.... thanks!


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N. W. Perry

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Nov 14, 2002, 1:24:08 AM11/14/02
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In article <aqv45...@enews4.newsguy.com>,
"David Kendrick" <d...@kendrick.org> wrote:

I'm sorry; I've been watching my Star Wars DVD a lot lately and I
thought the subject line referred to something completely different!

Roch, NY Roadgeek

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Nov 14, 2002, 8:01:26 AM11/14/02
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Smart ass, lol.

I have the URL on my computer at home. If it hasn't been posted by
the time I get home from work I'll post it here

Dave
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Brian Polidoro

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I see you're currently using ASP. What new technology would you be using?

Will it still be a web app or desktop app? I usually prefer a desktop app because it eliminates the need to be online to use it and
non-web languages generally are better than the scripting web languages. Java being the exception. Although web services are
supposed to change that.

I put on the OT because I'm delving into the programming side of the thread.

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towelie

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Nov 14, 2002, 10:15:49 AM11/14/02
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Brian Polidoro wrote:
>I see you're currently using ASP. What new technology would you
>be using?
>
>Will it still be a web app or desktop app? I usually prefer a desktop
>app because it eliminates the need to be online to use it and non-web
>languages generally are better than the scripting web languages. Java
>being the exception. Although web services are supposed to change that.

I agree, a regular application would be best. But then, toy computer
users (Mac users) and Linux users would have to have different versions
of the applications.

To answer your question, I'd like to see some old cutout signs.


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Jacques

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Nov 14, 2002, 11:56:14 AM11/14/02
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:04:25 GMT, "US 71" <us...@earthlink.netspam> wrote:

>Please repost the URL.... thanks!

Google says http://dkendr00.brinkster.net/shieldgen/

ruutu37

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Brian Polidoro

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I just use Outlook with the following IP address as the sending server: 208.149.207.130. But this server only posts, no reading.
But there's plenty of free reading news servers.

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Jeff Morrison

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Nov 14, 2002, 9:28:16 PM11/14/02
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> Brian Polidoro wrote:
> I agree, a regular application would be best. But then, toy computer
> users (Mac users) and Linux users would have to have different versions
> of the applications.

There's no reason for basless insults and name-calling.

Jeff Morrison

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Nov 14, 2002, 9:47:17 PM11/14/02
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"David Kendrick" <d...@kendrick.org> wrote in message news:<aqv45...@enews4.newsguy.com>...
Outside of just filling in the blanks for generation options:

Is there any way you could include an option for putting 3-digit US or
state primary (e.g. Iowa) shields to be square 2-digit-wide versions?

What about including state names on interstate shields?

Finally, maybe an option to choose Series C or D. The "63" it
generates, for example, would show up in Minnesota and Missouri but
very rarely in Iowa because it's in D.

Steve

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Nov 14, 2002, 10:51:22 PM11/14/02
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I'd like to see an 18" option (i.e. old Interstate or cutout US/state
shields, whose fonts were proportionally smaller to their overall size
than is current practice). There's also the issue of the old embossed
numbering being a different style (i.e. the 6's in route 66 were much
squarer).
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towelie

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Nov 15, 2002, 8:04:12 AM11/15/02
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Jeff Morrison managed to find two functioning brain cells to rub
together and came up with the following:

Name calling? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It was a joke, lighten up.

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David Kendrick

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Nov 15, 2002, 4:22:44 PM11/15/02
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"Jeff Morrison" <jeffmo...@mac.com> wrote in message
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> "David Kendrick" <d...@kendrick.org> wrote in message
news:<aqv45...@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> > Hello fellow m.t.road-geeks:
> >
> > It has been a couple of months since I've been able to devote any
> > attention to the Shield Generator web site. I apologize for the down
time.
> >
> > I am going to be rewriting it using some new technologies over the
next
> > couple weeks. During that time, if anyone has any realistic suggestions
for
> > improvement, please, by all means, post them to m.t.r, and I'll see what
I
> > can work in.
> >
> Outside of just filling in the blanks for generation options:
>
> Is there any way you could include an option for putting 3-digit US or
> state primary (e.g. Iowa) shields to be square 2-digit-wide versions?

No, right now it's designed just to behave itself and use 3-digit signs
for 3-digit numbers. I can put in a switch to force it though.

> What about including state names on interstate shields?

You can already put a state name on an Interstate shield -- just choose
the state and set the highway type to "interstate."

David Kendrick

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Nov 15, 2002, 4:21:29 PM11/15/02
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"Brian Polidoro" <bjpol...@gotrash.com> wrote in message
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>
> I see you're currently using ASP. What new technology would you be using?
>
> Will it still be a web app or desktop app? I usually prefer a desktop app
because it eliminates the need to be online to use it and
> non-web languages generally are better than the scripting web languages.
Java being the exception. Although web services are
> supposed to change that.
>
> I put on the OT because I'm delving into the programming side of the
thread.

I'm going to be using ASP.Net and a few other goodies. It's not only to
exercise my roadgeeking, it's to help me learn .Net a little better.


Dan Garnell

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Nov 16, 2002, 12:22:12 AM11/16/02
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> I am going to be rewriting it using some new technologies over the
next
> couple weeks. During that time, if anyone has any realistic suggestions
for
> improvement, please, by all means, post them to m.t.r, and I'll see what I
> can work in.
>
>

Haven't checked it in a while, but would you consider adding different tabs
such as BUSINESS, END, CONNECTOR, ENDS, and so on, that are used with the
shields? That would be in addition to having a tab the same size as the
shield, IIRC, that wasn't the case the 1st time around. Thanks.

Dan


Richard L. Ray

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Nov 16, 2002, 12:37:26 AM11/16/02
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We Mac users USE real computers. Macs users are responsible for most of
the graphic design you see in magazines, many special effects you see in
movies (George Lucas has bunches of Macs for digital video and sound
editing at his ILM facility in Marin County, California) and quite a bit
of web page design as well. The U.S. Army uses Mac OS X servers because
they got tired of the Windows servers being continually hacked.

I use both in my home network, and spend the majority of my computer
maintenance chores on keeping the Windows machines up and running. And
unlike the software from Microsoft, Mac software will play well with
others. My MS Office files work just as well on the Windows machines as
they do on my Mac.

If using a "toy computer" means using one that doesn't continually lock
up or give me the blue screen of death, I'm guilty as charged. The local
computer repair guy calls Macs toys, too. He was rude enough to tell me
that only kids used Macs, and "real adults" used "real computers" I did
notice he made a very good living repairing all of those "real
computers" that were sitting on his repair bench, at $50 per hour bench
time. Try and find people who are as dedicated to their Windows machines
as those of us who use Macintosh. We would rather go back to pen and
paper than switch.

By the way, have you ever used a Mac, or are you just a typical
Microsoft bigot (or even worse, a Microsoft CERTIFIED I.T. PROFESSIONAL)
that thinks the world revolves around Redmond, Washington and that Steve
Ballmer speaks holy writ?


Regards,


Richard

Steve

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Nov 16, 2002, 5:39:36 AM11/16/02
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A note on that - for freeway-size shields, the direction tabs are
sometimes much smaller (i.e. 24 inches wide on a 36 inch sign, or
possibly even a 48 inch sign). I've seen this on US 1 and MA 3, for
example.

Mr. Yamamoto of Hollywood

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Nov 16, 2002, 11:11:03 PM11/16/02
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Hmm, the old BSOD rap from a Mac d00d. I run a POS compaq with win xp pro. I
have yet to have a BSOD, and before that I was running Win NT on another
rubbish computer, and never had a crash in 3 years. I run an old Dell 266 with
Win 2k for internet radio and other mundane chores. With the exception of a
move, it has been costantly up since I loaded the OS. I wouldn't even turn the
Compaq off, if it weren't for the fact that I don't want to leave my external
HD's running all the time for no good reason, and I'm to lazy to temporarily
uninstall them, plus I'm cheep I don't wanna pay for the electricity.

Macs are good for graphics, but Win machines are just as good IMO. All my
graphics were made on windoze machinery, and I have A LOT of graphics on my
site.

Y, whoopie the army uses OSX servers. Mac took HOW MANY years to wake up to the
fact that a unix based OS(OSX is BSD in Mac drag) is much more stable than
anything they came up with. I have lost more than one file to "the bomb"(Mac
users seem not to recall "the bomb".... which is even better than the BSOD,
since you can't reboot out of that, you had to unplug the machine). microshaft
realized that many moons ago....NT is almost as old as winblows itself.

Won't find anyone who'll swear by a winblows OS? I will- the pro versions, the
consumer versions are crap. I get pretty good results out of a computer that
cost a fraction of the price of a Mac.By the time you get to the price for an
entry level Mac, you can bung in a whole lot of extras(4 drives, a scanner, a
camera, a coupla Palms and a pocket PC). So NERR.
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Nov 17, 2002, 8:29:30 AM11/17/02
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Mr. Yamamoto of Hollywood wrote:


> Won't find anyone who'll swear by a winblows OS? I will- the pro versions, the
> consumer versions are crap. I get pretty good results out of a computer that
> cost a fraction of the price of a Mac.By the time you get to the price for an
> entry level Mac, you can bung in a whole lot of extras(4 drives, a scanner, a
> camera, a coupla Palms and a pocket PC). So NERR.


ISTR my latest Mac catalog (MacMall, MacConnection, whatever) had the
latest iMac on the cover for something like $700 and that was with a
RAM upgrade and a free (cheap) printer thrown in. Yeah, you could prob-
abably get a cheap Gateway for a hundred or so less, but again, one's
time *does* have a price on it, so you easily get that $100 back with
the Mac in time not wasted...

Just my opinion!

Chris, who has yet to have one piece of Apple hardware fail on him
after 11 years. I *still* don't have a reason to switch... ;^)


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towelie

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Nov 17, 2002, 4:05:24 PM11/17/02
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Mr. Yamamoto of Hollywood managed to find two functioning brain cells

to rub together and came up with the following:
> Hmm, the old BSOD rap from a Mac d00d. I run a POS compaq with win xp
> pro. I have yet to have a BSOD, and before that I was running Win NT
> on another rubbish computer, and never had a crash in 3 years.

The only time I've ever gotten a BSOD on my XP Pro machine was while running
Further, for some reason it crashes the machine but as long as I don't run
it, I don't get crashes.

Mr. Yamamoto of Hollywood

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Nov 17, 2002, 7:04:41 PM11/17/02
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>Yeah, you could prob-
>abably get a cheap Gateway for a hundred or so less, but again, one's
>time *does* have a price on it, so you easily get that $100 back with
>the Mac in time not wasted...
>

Okay, what time wasted? I REALLY hate to burst your bubble, but I've never had
to "waste" any time with any computer I've ever owned.BTW with the Gateway, I
could prolly trick it out pretty well for a few extra C notes. So I end up w/a
pretty spiffy machine that I can actually afford-what can I do w/ a Mac that's
not gonna cost at least $300.00?

Steve

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Nov 17, 2002, 8:22:03 PM11/17/02
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ok fine so my apple IIe still loads its programs after 20 years of
service. ;) i like windows because there are some programs not designed
for macs - napster was one of these. it's not apple's fault of course.

Edmund Blackadder

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Nov 17, 2002, 11:59:28 PM11/17/02
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towelie wrote:
>
> Brian Polidoro wrote:
>>I see you're currently using ASP. What new technology would you
>>be using?
>>
>>Will it still be a web app or desktop app? I usually prefer a desktop
>>app because it eliminates the need to be online to use it and non-web
>>languages generally are better than the scripting web languages. Java
>>being the exception. Although web services are supposed to change
>>that.

Transitioning ASP with VBS to ASP.NET with C# can provide you with
hours upon hours of cursing and mindlessly staring at MSDN. Just
remember that they own you if you go past Win2000 sp3.

> To answer your question, I'd like to see some old cutout signs.

To be pedantic, given that the site says "Interstates and US highways
for all states are working correctly", we should see cutouts for
US highways in California, at least.

I also need to tweak IJB to allow the "banner" images from that site
to pass unblocked.

David Kendrick

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I'll see what I can do.

JTL

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Nov 19, 2002, 1:39:03 AM11/19/02
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Well I am NOT a Microsoft bigot, my Windows ME is the biggest hulk of
BS money could buy. I have to restart my computer about 5-7 times
just to log on to the internet along with the blue screen blues and
the Alcatraz lockdown. I can't even shut off or start my computer
without PULLING THE PLUG!!!! I have better things to do with my time
than fight with a computer that has a mind of it's own and next
computer will be a Mac. The only reason I didn't get one initially
was perceived compatability problems with software I wanted (that
doesn't work on Windows anyway without several rounds of
Control-Alt-Delete). ME is like a house wired so that when you turn
on your bedroom light, you hear the garbage disposal or a ceiling fan
hooked to a high voltage wire that eventually burns your house down :(

Brian Polidoro

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It's not all window's fault. Half the time it's crap hardware. Half of the problem with the blue screen of deaths are cheap
hardware that aren't fully compliant with standards. And you get crap like that from companies like Compaq. Dude get a Dell. But
don't be cheap and get their bottom line PC's. The other half of the blue screens are badly written device drivers. Software uses
these drivers which use windows incorrectly and cause windows to throw a fault making it look like the bad guy. That's why now
Microsoft is certifying drivers as windows XP compatible. If you try and install a non-certified driver windows XP will warn you
it's not certified and it may cause your system to become unstable. I very rarely see a blue screen of death from windows 2000 and
have never seen one from windows XP. So get a real windows OS, a NT based one. And my second computer is mostly stable and it runs
Windows ME. I use that one to burn CD's.

Another problem with windows OS's that has improved with newer versions is dll hell. For example two programs use one dll. One is
uninstalled and deletes that file. The other program no longer works. Program's made with Microsoft's new .NET platform no longer
suffer from dll hell. And through the work of independent groups the .NET desktop apps will be supported on Linux and Unix in the
future.

I can get a top of the line PC for less than half of the price of a decent Mac and it'll be more than twice as fast. And piece of
crap IMacs don't count. They have no room for expansion and don't have a floppy or zip disk.

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towelie

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Nov 19, 2002, 10:07:24 AM11/19/02
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JTL managed to find two functioning brain cells to rub together and

came up with the following:

ME sucks. Get XP, it's 100 times better.

Doug Weasner

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Nov 19, 2002, 1:40:07 PM11/19/02
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Amen brother, keep preaching the gospel

And you still can't game on a Mac :)

Doug picks up Microsoft's Professional OSs for $5 a shot now, courtesy of
Indiana University, and can build a rig that will out perform any Mac for
under $900, and that includes a big-ass flat CRT 19" monitor. How do I know?
I just did this weekend!

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Greenwood IN
Who runs Windows XP Professional on all 4 of his computers, over a 100 BaseT
fully switched and routed network. And he does it all...Scan, print, digital
camera, video capture/editing, the works.

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JTL

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Nov 19, 2002, 2:35:39 PM11/19/02
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Mine is a Dell. Dude, don't waste your money on a Dell. It was a POS
from the day I got it running. Maybe I can get it fixed.

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Andrew Muck

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> Mine is a Dell. Dude, don't waste your money on a Dell. It was a POS
> from the day I got it running. Maybe I can get it fixed.

Mine started out as a Gateway and if had to do it all over again, I
wouldn't buy one from them. The only things left from my original
computer are the CD/DVD drive, Floppy drive, Zip drive, my printer and
monitor. I now got a 1.6 GhZ Pentium 4 with 384 mb of RAM and a 30 GB
hard drive and I'm running XP Pro and I got cable internet. Yea, I
know, its not the world conquering computer I had last year, but its
still very fast for all the applications I use.

Andrew Muck

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