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stellar

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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With seti being the worlds fastest computer what will happen when all the
work units are complete? How do we know that the data being displayed is
not a front used to hide what is really being processed in the background?
=) I do not have enough paranoia to stop using seti and am having fun
processing all of the work units, but you have to wonder.
The encryption "PGP" used in e-mails gave the government a big scare and
they wanted the clipper chip in every computer because the processing power
to decrypt the enormous amount of PGP encrypted mail was overwhelming. In
some ways they got there wish because all new Pentium III have a specific ID
number that you can "supposedly turn off in bios". In case you haven't
heard the PIII uses this ID number to help your computer be I.D. on the
internet so when you do banking, purchasing, e.c.t. you can be ID as the
proper user. I would be a patriotic citizen and use my computer to help the
government spy as long as I know that the mystery data being sent to my
computer was for that purpose. After all the U.S. is not #1 just on
economics alone "knowledge is power".

It would be a shame to have all this processing power go away when the seti
project is finished perhaps other regions of the sky not covered by the
current satellite could be analyzed.

Ed Wensell III aka THE StormRaiser

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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stellar wrote:
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> With seti being the worlds fastest computer what will happen when all the
> work units are complete? How do we know that the data being displayed is
> not a front used to hide what is really being processed in the background?
> =) I do not have enough paranoia to stop using seti and am having fun
> processing all of the work units, but you have to wonder.

If a person or organization wanted to use your spare CPU cycles for
something more dubious, there are ways easier than setting up front-end
research project. They'd "just do it".

--

Until soon...
Ed Wensell III

stellar

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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>>> Sorry about the personal reply forgot to select reply group!

> If a person or organization wanted to use your spare CPU cycles for
> something more dubious, there are ways easier than setting up front-end
> research project. They'd "just do it".
>
> --
>
> Until soon...
> Ed Wensell III

Your right on that count! For all we know were contributing to the Microsoft
empire.

Perhaps when the seti program ends it could tackle the question from the
book Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy "what is the answer to life the
universe and everything else?" 42?

I take it you have to hand out a card when someone asks for you e-mail at 27
characters in length! =)

Best of luck,

Eric


Jacy Odin Grannis

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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Ed Wensell III aka THE StormRaiser wrote:

> If a person or organization wanted to use your spare CPU cycles for
> something more dubious, there are ways easier than setting up front-end
> research project. They'd "just do it".

Yeah, who's to say that nice browser Microsoft "gave" you to use isn't busy at
work for the NSA in the background...?

;-)

who am I kidding...MS could never code something that clever....


Ed Wensell III aka THE StormRaiser

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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stellar wrote:
> Perhaps when the seti program ends it could tackle the question from the
> book Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy "what is the answer to life the
> universe and everything else?" 42?

Hmmm... Distributing the process of finding the question to 42. Sounds
interesting. Although, if we were to find a signal within two years, I
have a feeling SET@Home would turn into DECRYPT@Home. Otherwise,
everyone will just go back to RC5/Pi/Marsenne.



> I take it you have to hand out a card when someone asks for you e-mail at 27
> characters in length! =)

Not all of us get to have cute little .com or .net addresses. Actually,
I just send an E-mail to the people that really need my address. And
it's 23 characters after your despam it. :)

--

Until soon...
Ed Wensell III

Systems and Operations Support, Pellissippi State
E-mail hint: A college with a dot net domain?

Ed Wensell III aka THE StormRaiser

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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Jacy Odin Grannis wrote:
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> Yeah, who's to say that nice browser Microsoft "gave" you to use isn't busy at
> work for the NSA in the background...?
>
> ;-)
>
> who am I kidding...MS could never code something that clever....

No.. They leave that kind of thing up to the macro-virus hackers... :)

Jan Knutar

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:17:13 -0400, "stellar" <ste...@fuse.net>
wrote:

>With seti being the worlds fastest computer what will happen when all the
>work units are complete?

The project will last for 2 years. After that the results will be
analysed, possible interesting hits will be looked further into and
documents about seti@home will be publihsed. Then, pehaps, in a few
years we'll repeat the project.

The answer is: after 2 years the porject will end and the sett@home
supercomputer will cease to exist.

> How do we know that the data being displayed is
>not a front used to hide what is really being processed in the background?

We don't. But we can see the results that are sent back to berkeley.
Nothing but scientifical data.


>It would be a shame to have all this processing power go away when the seti
>project is finished perhaps other regions of the sky not covered by the
>current satellite could be analyzed.

You say "satellite" there are no satellites involved in the colection
of the data that we are currently analysing.

-JK

Jan Knutar

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:17:28 -0500, Jacy Odin Grannis
<jacyg@manateeusa.#com> wrote:

>Yeah, who's to say that nice browser Microsoft "gave" you to use isn't busy at
>work for the NSA in the background...?

That could even be true, I mean, just look at how slow the MS browser
is compared to Opera for example.

Who can tell what MS' browser is doing ?

It must be doing something extra when Opera is ten times as fast!


>who am I kidding...MS could never code something that clever....

They did manage to make an email program that would automatically
infect your system with a virus if you received a virus in your
email...

-JK

Robert Norton

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Jan Knutar wrote:

> >who am I kidding...MS could never code something that clever....
>
> They did manage to make an email program that would automatically
> infect your system with a virus if you received a virus in your
> email...

Check on your hard drive for REGWIZ.DLL. If you have it, MS (or anybody else who
knows how) can suck up all the registration information, including serial numbers,
of all your MS software unbeknownst to you just by visiting a harlmess (looking)
web page. Kinda cool in an Orwellian way. Security settings have no effect. For a
demo, follow the link...

http://www.winmag.com/web/regwizoff.htm

SETI@HOME could have dropped off an ActiveX component or DLL which could be
activated by IE from a web page too. I have no reason to suspect that it did,
somebody most likely would have caught be now if they did that.


Dale Williamson

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:35:56 GMT, j.k.@gotmail.com (Jan Knutar) wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:17:13 -0400, "stellar" <ste...@fuse.net>
>wrote:
>
>>With seti being the worlds fastest computer what will happen when all the
>>work units are complete?
>
>The project will last for 2 years. After that the results will be
>analysed, possible interesting hits will be looked further into and
>documents about seti@home will be publihsed. Then, pehaps, in a few
>years we'll repeat the project.
>
>The answer is: after 2 years the porject will end and the sett@home
>supercomputer will cease to exist.

As I understand it, that's -not- in the game-plan. After this search
is completed, another one is hoped for using one of the dishes in
Austrailia, but that's not "solid" yet. But don't put a "The End"
after this phase has been completed just yet.

Just another opinion from
Phoenix,AZ,USA

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