Major update to the Calendar homepage - call for help
Simon Paquet
As of today we have a totally rewritten feature requirements page (thanks
to Gabe Wilde for providing the content, markup by me), a brand new
roadmap page (mostly done by Gabe Wilde with some input and markup by me)
and a brand new screenshot page done by me, with screenshots showing of
some of the capabilities of Mozilla Calendar and both themes.
The new pages can be visited at:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/requirements.html
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/roadmap.html
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/screenshot.html
I also tweaked the calendar frontpage
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ a little bit.
Over the weekend, I want to split the calendar frontpage into parts. I
plan to put the skins, calendar files, translations, bugs, how to help,
and news sections into separate pages, to make the page more readable.
Tell me what you think of the new pages and my plans. Any feedback is
appreciated.
I also want so send out a general call for help. We need more
contributors for Calendar. See the "How to help"-section on the website
for opportunities to contribute. Especially the FAQ page needs some
attention. We also need some end-user documentation. I will gladly check
in any content that some of you might come up with. Just announce it here
or mail me.
Simon
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Simon Paquet
>Over the weekend, I want to split the calendar frontpage into parts. I
>plan to put the skins, calendar files, translations, bugs, how to help,
>and news sections into separate pages, to make the page more readable.
Done. I extended the skins page a little bit and included four more
skins, that are skinning Mozilla Calendar. If you know of other skins
that do so, please let me know.
sime
> skins, that are skinning Mozilla Calendar. If you know of other skins
> that do so, please let me know.
>
> Simon
The skins screen shots thumbnails are not all that help full. I quite
like how on the orbits homepage has the top left of navigator as the
screen shot then linked to its individual homepage.
-sime
Simon Paquet
>> Done. I extended the skins page a little bit and included four more
>> skins, that are skinning Mozilla Calendar. If you know of other skins
>> that do so, please let me know.
>>
>The skins screen shots thumbnails are not all that help full. I quite
>like how on the orbits homepage has the top left of navigator as the
>screen shot then linked to its individual homepage.
I just checked in slightly bigger theme screenshots (285x223 vs. 220x165
pixels), showing only the top left quarter of the window to better
distinguish the different themes from one another.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Peter Lairo
> And on the seventh day Simon Paquet spoke:
>
>>Over the weekend, I want to split the calendar frontpage into parts. I
>>plan to put the skins, calendar files, translations, bugs, how to help,
>>and news sections into separate pages, to make the page more readable.
>
>
> Done.
Wow, what great improvement. :) Congratulations.
The menu on the left is a bit overloaded. How about subdividing some of
the items into groups, like the FB & TB helppages? ;)
http://texturizer.net/firebird/
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Robert Markula
[...][...]
Simon, which software are you using to build the Web Site? I am looking
for a program I can write the documentation with.
Regards,
Ro
Simon Paquet
>>>Over the weekend, I want to split the calendar frontpage into parts. I
>>>plan to put the skins, calendar files, translations, bugs, how to help,
>>>and news sections into separate pages, to make the page more readable.
>>
>>
>> Done.
>
>Wow, what great improvement. :) Congratulations.
Thanks.
>The menu on the left is a bit overloaded. How about subdividing some of
>the items into groups, like the FB & TB helppages? ;)
Thanks for the suggestion. Done. :-))
Simon Paquet
>[...]
>> I also tweaked the calendar frontpage
>> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ a little bit.
>[...]
>Simon, which software are you using to build the Web Site? I am looking
>for a program I can write the documentation with.
I use a plain text editor (Ultraedit) for editing the webpages.
Use whatever you are familiar with to write documentation (text file,
word document, ...). I convert it into HTML.
BTW I found the documentation PDF doc I talked about in another
thread. If you want it, I can mail it to you.
Robert Markula
[...]
> I use a plain text editor (Ultraedit) for editing the webpages.
>
> Use whatever you are familiar with to write documentation (text file,
> word document, ...). I convert it into HTML.
>
> BTW I found the documentation PDF doc I talked about in another
> thread. If you want it, I can mail it to you.
Thanks, I already found the PDF.
Nevertheless, it will take a while until I can come up with something,
because I've got all my exams right now. But I am working on it...
Regards,
Ro
Gary Frederick
You can edit the nice new calendar page on Mozilla's Composer to see how
it works. Go to that page and press Ctrl-e and edit away.
;-)
Gary
flacco
> And on the seventh day Peter Lairo spoke:
>>the items into groups, like the FB & TB helppages? ;)
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. Done. :-))
some strangeness on the redesigned page. this is a clipped screenshot
using mozilla firebird on linux.:
sime
> pixels), showing only the top left quarter of the window to better
> distinguish the different themes from one another.
Cool!
The screen shots are grainy, you have saved them in the wrong format.
JPEG's are good for pictures. I recommend PNG (lossless and open source
:) or at least GIF.
-sime
Simon Paquet
>>>The menu on the left is a bit overloaded. How about subdividing some of
>>>the items into groups, like the FB & TB helppages? ;)
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. Done. :-))
>
>some strangeness on the redesigned page. this is a clipped screenshot
>using mozilla firebird on linux.:
>
>http://www.twilight-systems.com/flacco/mozcalhp.png
Which firebird build are you using? I can't reproduce that here on
windows. I tested the pages with IE 6, Opera 7.23 and a Firebird trunk
nightly from 2004-01-31.
Simon Paquet
>> I just checked in slightly bigger theme screenshots (285x223 vs. 220x165
>> pixels), showing only the top left quarter of the window to better
>> distinguish the different themes from one another.
>
>Cool!
>
>The screen shots are grainy, you have saved them in the wrong format.
I know, but that's the price you have to pay for small image sizes. The
images together are nearly 70KB big. If I use PNG images, that will go up
to over a 100KB. I think that's not acceptable for dialup-users. So the
image quality is some kind of a compromise between the need for high-
quality pictures and the demands of dialup-users.
Scot McSweeney-Roberts
<snip>
> BTW I found the documentation PDF doc I talked about in another
> thread. If you want it, I can mail it to you.
>
> Simon
I don't suppose you could put it up somewhere on the web? I've tried
googling for it but to no avail.
cheers
Scot
Peter Lairo
I saw a similar layout problem when i first visited the updated page.
Reloading from the server (not the cache: SHIFT+Reload) fixed it for me.
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Peter Lairo
> And on the seventh day Peter Lairo spoke:
>
>>the items into groups, like the FB & TB helppages? ;)
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. Done. :-))
Wow, great improvement! If this trend continues, it might become as good
or better than the FB/TB pages. ;)
A few _minor_ nits:
- The indentation of the subheadings is too big. It needlessly uses up
space, and makes the subheadings look disjointed from their headings.
- The headings should be links too. They should link to a page that
explains that sections purpose and also has links to the subheadings and
explanations of the subheadings.
Again, http://texturizer.net/firebird/support.html is an excellent example.
- If you were to copy some more of the mozilla.org's CSS style,
particularly the background color of the left menu collumn, it would
make the pages even more in tune with the whole site (although I really
don't like the new mozilla.org layout and color scheme - brown/beige,
diagonal screenshots, ... yuk! :( ).
Robert Markula
> [...]
> I don't suppose you could put it up somewhere on the web? I've tried
> googling for it but to no avail.
Scott,
I've send you the PDF via e-mail.
I think it would be a good idea if we could put the PDF on the website
for everyone to download.
Regards,
Ro
Scot McSweeney-Roberts
Cheers for that.
I've run it through pdftohtml. The results can be viewed here:
http://homepage.mac.com/s_mcsweeney_roberts/MozillaCalendarHowTo/MozillaCalendarHowTo.html
At least it's a start I suppose. The output from pdftohtml is heavily
framed and DIVed so it's still going to require a fair bit of work.
Scot
Simon Paquet
>>>The menu on the left is a bit overloaded. How about subdividing some of
>>>the items into groups, like the FB & TB helppages? ;)
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. Done. :-))
>
>Wow, great improvement! If this trend continues, it might become as good
>or better than the FB/TB pages. ;)
>
>A few _minor_ nits:
>
>- The indentation of the subheadings is too big. It needlessly uses up
>space, and makes the subheadings look disjointed from their headings.
Fixed.
>- The headings should be links too. They should link to a page that
>explains that sections purpose and also has links to the subheadings and
>explanations of the subheadings.
>
>Again, http://texturizer.net/firebird/support.html is an excellent example.
Care to write something up and post it here for discussion?
Robert Markula
[...]
> At least it's a start I suppose. The output from pdftohtml is heavily
> framed and DIVed so it's still going to require a fair bit of work.
It's no big deal, I'm currently working on a completly new documentation
written in HTML. It will take awhile (got exams to do), so posting the
PDF in the meantime is a good idea.
Regards,
Ro
Eric Belhaire
> Hi!
> As of today we have a totally rewritten feature requirements page (thanks
> to Gabe Wilde for providing the content, markup by me), a brand new
> roadmap page (mostly done by Gabe Wilde with some input and markup by me)
> and a brand new screenshot page done by me, with screenshots showing of
> some of the capabilities of Mozilla Calendar and both themes.
I like the new pages a lot. Good job. Just a small remark, I can't find
in the contribute section the command to get the calendar sources from
CVS. I think that it was there before.
In fact I really need it after after a complete installation of linux
here at home. Mostafa ?
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Peter Lairo
> And on the seventh day Peter Lairo spoke:
>
>>space, and makes the subheadings look disjointed from their headings.
>
> Fixed.
Now i'm just blown away at how fast that was fixed. Wow!
>>- The headings should be links too. They should link to a page that
>>explains that sections purpose and also has links to the subheadings and
>>explanations of the subheadings.
>>
>>Again, http://texturizer.net/firebird/support.html is an excellent example.
>
> Care to write something up and post it here for discussion?
I would love to, but currently completely lack any time/respources to do
it. :-[
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Regards,
Peter Lairo
Eric Belhaire
in unix :
% setenv CVSROOT :pserver:anon...@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot
% cvs login
(Logging in to anon...@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org)
CVS password: anonymous
% cvs checkout mozilla/calendar
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Simon Paquet
>> Hi!
>> As of today we have a totally rewritten feature requirements page (thanks
>> to Gabe Wilde for providing the content, markup by me), a brand new
>> roadmap page (mostly done by Gabe Wilde with some input and markup by me)
>> and a brand new screenshot page done by me, with screenshots showing of
>> some of the capabilities of Mozilla Calendar and both themes.
>
>Hi Simon,
>I like the new pages a lot. Good job. Just a small remark, I can't find
>in the contribute section the command to get the calendar sources from
>CVS. I think that it was there before.
No, there wasn't. I ported the page as it was. But I will add a page
explaining the procedure.