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Prof Hill

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Jul 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/7/98
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I just evicted a renter because they had cats in my furnished house in
violation of the rental agreement. I got what damages $ I could from them.
The mechanical damage I can handle, but how do I get rid of the terrific
stink? The only way I can stand to be inside the house is with a big fan
blowing air in the door. I have treated the rugs for fleas, and think I
have them down. Will I have to discard the furniture and rugs?

JamesBow1

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Jul 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/7/98
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Most likely you will have to get rid of all carpets and carpeting & padding.
I have found pouring peroxide on hardwood floors then after it has been
scrubbed into the cracks between thew wood flooring and bubbled for a few
inutes it can be wet vaced up. A couple of treatments like this usually knocks
down the majority if not all of the odor.
The trick is to get to the uric salts and neutralize them. Cat urine gets into
the wood fiber and cellouse areas of wood flooring. It's that ability of the
wood to hold odors that makes getting rid of it pretty tough. Some people find
vinager another method.
The BOMAN

Davis

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Jul 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/7/98
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Get rid of the cat!!!!!

Cliff Hartle

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Jul 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/7/98
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Try going to a janitorial supply house. They have enzyme based cleaner that
attach the smells.

Prof Hill wrote in message ...

holm...@hotmail.com

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I have seen enzymatic odor neutralizrs sold in pet stores. Thankfully
haven't had the need to use one myself, so I can't comment on its
effectiveness.


Prof Hill <uc...@ns.vvm.com> was heard to remark:
: I just evicted a renter because they had cats in my furnished house in


: violation of the rental agreement. I got what damages $ I could from them.
: The mechanical damage I can handle, but how do I get rid of the terrific
: stink? The only way I can stand to be inside the house is with a big fan
: blowing air in the door. I have treated the rugs for fleas, and think I
: have them down. Will I have to discard the furniture and rugs?

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Chloe Amari

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Jul 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/7/98
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Not really in answer to your question, but a suggestion: even if you succeed
in removing the odor as far as a human can tell (and I suspect you will be
able to) you may wish to do everything you can to keep future tenants from
bringing a cat in again Even a well-trained one will possibly return to
these places and use them...their little sniffers are very sensitive and
they seem to like to mark the spot as their own because they're very
territorial even in the house.

Woodsy

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Jul 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/7/98
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You will probably have to get rid of the rugs at least. The cats have
marked their territory by
'spraying' on them. They may have on the
furniture, too. I had to have a wooden floor
professionally sanded due to this problem.

BJones5494

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Jul 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/8/98
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>even if you succeed in removing the odor as far as a human can tell (and I
suspect you will be Even a well-trained one will possibly return to these

places and use them...their little sniffers are very sensitive>>

My experience was remove the carpet and the padding (trash)...scrub the wood
floors with pet ordor remover (I used Nilotex)...then paint the floors with
Kilz...put down new padding and carpet. I've lived there 5-years since with 2
cats!!! NO accidents....

dsg5

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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The only way I could get the cat pea smell out was to

1) throw out the carpet
2) take a hot flame and heat the concrete foundation toasty warm

I tried the friendly bacteria stuff from the pet store, I tried a dozen
gallons of Clorox bleach, I tried several different types of household
cleaner. But the only thing that got rid of the urine smell was to heat
the concrete and throw out the carpet.
Yuck.
Good luck,
--dsg
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BJones5494 <bjone...@aol.com> wrote in article
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Kevin and Colleen Robson

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Jul 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/15/98
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Vinegar usually works, too.

pelmark

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Jul 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/15/98
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Here we go, tried and true...

In severe odor situations (*strong* cat urine odor), throw out the carpet,
pad, tack strip.

Urine turns *alkaline* from an acid in a matter of a few days after being
deposited. Therefore, you use an *acid* to clean...not an akaline, like
bleach, or detergents. I use Unsmoke Pipe and Porcelain Cleaner, an acid
detergent, used to clean bathroom fixtures. Vinegar would work; I would mix
50/50 with water.

[You smell *ammonia* in dried urine...ammonia is probably the strongest
alkaline cleaner in a home.]

If the floors are wood, lightly sand, sweep/vacuum, scrub with your acid
solution, extract/mop. Let dry.

If the floors are cement, sweep/vacuum, scrub with your acid solution,
extract/mop. Let dry.

Spray the solution on with a pump garden sprayer, and agitate with a push
broom. Or mop it on. Use a wet vac to extract, or mop.

Apply a solvent based acryllic sealer for cement. I use Neutralizer's
"Neutral-P-Seal". *Any* solvent based acryllic cement sealer will work. The
above product also works on wood subfloors. Thompson's Water Seal is
*specifically* not recommended.

We use BINZ (favorite) or KILZ, or any alcohol based shellac on walls and
wood. Same process; clean with acid, dry, seal.

The idea is simple: you cannot remove dried urine from *porous* surfaces
like wood and cement. You must *seal* the unremovable urine in the
contaminated surfaces. It must be sealed from *exposure* to heat and
moisture. If warm, moist air does not contact the dried urine crystals, you
will NOT smell the urine.

If you do not seal, and even when the cat is gone, and carpet is simply
replaced, warm, moist air will make the smell return, and contaminate the
new flooring. *Months*, even *years* later. You *only* smell in the presence
of heat and moisture.

Enzymes can work, but in situations of strong odor, they *never* will. A cat
urinating just 6 ozs per day is 17 gallons of urine per year. Enzymes will
work in single or very infrequent urinations. However, if the smell is
strong, you have a major contamination. If 20% of the surface is
contaminated, 60% of the underlayment is. (Use a blacklight to find; males
urinate on perimeter vertical surfaces, females squat in the center of
rooms, usually.)

On contaminated wood or cement sub-floors, you can put down *hundreds* of
gallons of bleach, detergent, water, enzymes...pick your favorite. You can
extract with a bilge pump after *flooding* the structure, and you will
*never* remove the urine from the billions of holes in these floors.

Wash with an acid after light sanding of wood. Extract and dry. Seal. Done.
Odor *gone*.

Simple.

Mark
IICRC Certified Master Cleaning Technician
IICRC Certified Master Restoration Technician


davey...@yahoo.co.in

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Aug 5, 2012, 2:22:54 PM8/5/12
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On Tuesday, July 7, 1998 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Prof Hill wrote:
> I just evicted a renter because they had cats in my furnished house in
> violation of the rental agreement. I got what damages $ I could from them.
> The mechanical damage I can handle, but how do I get rid of the terrific
> stink? The only way I can stand to be inside the house is with a big fan
> blowing air in the door. I have treated the rugs for fleas, and think I
> have them down. Will I have to discard the furniture and rugs?

HELP! HELP! HELP!
In a condo I own the tenant's 2 cats and 1 dog urinated to a 70% penetration rate on ceramic tile on the first level, the gypsum concrete on the second level and the plywood subflooring on the stairs and third floor. This evidently happened over a three year period. Do I need to replace all the flooring?

Jon Danniken

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Aug 5, 2012, 4:27:20 PM8/5/12
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On 08/05/2012 11:22 AM, davey...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 7, 1998 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Prof Hill wrote:
[snip]

Holy crap, is that really a 14 year span for a response?

This has gotta be a record.

Jon

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 5, 2012, 5:29:33 PM8/5/12
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Nothing is unexpected from goggle gropes.

Art Todesco

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Aug 5, 2012, 6:36:34 PM8/5/12
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"Nature's Miracle" works very well on fabrics and even some solid
absorbent surface. However, if it's deep into the carpet and pad, I
don't think there's much hope other than replacement. We have one dumb
cat that likes to , ah, anoint things. I can usually smell is just
walking into the house. Nature's Miracle usually works. On carpets,
I've soaked the area with NM, then extract, and let dry. A follow up
cleaning might be necessary with regular carpet cleaner. Strangle the cat!

bob haller

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Aug 5, 2012, 9:44:03 PM8/5/12
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> >Holy crap, is that really a 14 year span for a response?
>
> >This has gotta be a record.
>
> Nothing is unexpected from goggle groups........

if google requires me to move to new groups withot a option to use the
old format i am done posting on any google group........

the new format is a bug ridden mess

Smitty Two

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Aug 5, 2012, 10:12:46 PM8/5/12
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In article
<0cbfaf73-c835-48d4...@f2g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
So was the old format. This is usenet, remember? It isn't designed to be
accessed from a web browser at all.

Dan Espen

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Aug 5, 2012, 10:48:53 PM8/5/12
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By all means, get the hell off GG.
Use a real news server (plenty of free ones) and a real news reader.
Do us all a favor.

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k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 6, 2012, 12:15:21 AM8/6/12
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So, just what is your excuse for using that shit?

bob haller

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Aug 6, 2012, 12:49:10 AM8/6/12
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> >the new format is a bug ridden mess
>
> So, just what is your excuse for using that shit?

i like the existing format which works well for me.......

bob haller

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Aug 6, 2012, 12:56:50 AM8/6/12
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to get rid of any urine odors, cats dogs humans etc.....

pull everything from the space, remove and discard carpets
etc,........ scrub area totally

sand floors lightly coat with OUTDOOR POLYURETHANE.

Prime walls with oil based BIN or KILZ primer sealer.

even coat concrete floors after cleaning with outdoor poly.

This is what the professional fire restoration crews do.

its impossible to wash away urine odors, the only effective treatment
is coating surfaces and enscapalting them forever......

incidently i have had to do this.....

use outdoor poly because its water proof, regular poly can and does
soften in wet weather, like high hmidity days and the odors reoccur

Dan Espen

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Aug 6, 2012, 9:00:47 AM8/6/12
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It may be working for you but creates a mess for others.
GG inserts all kinds of junk into posts that make GG posts hard to read.

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k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 6, 2012, 10:06:21 AM8/6/12
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You don't mind be as selfish as Stormin'? No, I suppose not.

dgk

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Aug 7, 2012, 8:34:55 AM8/7/12
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:36:34 -0400, Art Todesco <acto...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Rather than strangle, have the cat checked by a vet since urinating
inappropriately can often be caused by a urinary infection. In the
case of the original poster however, that is not likely the case, the
cat just got used to uriniating in certain places and was never
stopped.

Roy

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Aug 7, 2012, 12:10:47 PM8/7/12
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People who let cats live in their home DESERVE the smell. Why people like to
dwell with animals is beyond my ken.

bob haller

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Aug 7, 2012, 7:11:53 PM8/7/12
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On Aug 7, 12:10 pm, Roy <wila...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:34:55 AM UTC-6, dgk wrote:
> > On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:36:34 -0400, Art Todesco <actode...@yahoo.com>
>
> > wrote:
because obviously the dogs ALLOW US TO LIVE HERE....

I can never understand how anyone could live without pets, espically
dogs

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 7, 2012, 11:04:18 PM8/7/12
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We have two cats that enjoy our company. They follow us around like puppies,
at least when they're not sleeping. We don't have dogs because cats are
easier to take care of. We can leave them for a weekend without any problems.
If we're gone for a week the neighbors just have to look in on them a couple
of times to fill their bowls.

>I can never understand how anyone could live without pets, espically
>dogs

Animal haters are sick people.

harryagain

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Aug 8, 2012, 2:07:04 AM8/8/12
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"bob haller" <hal...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> >the new format is a bug ridden mess
>>
>> So, just what is your excuse for using that shit?
>
> i like the existing format which works well for me.......

The old GG was OK. The new one is crap. I have given up on it and use
Evening September now.
>


harryagain

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Aug 8, 2012, 2:11:17 AM8/8/12
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"dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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Wild cat smark their territory by urine markers. So it's normal for cats to
do this.
I wouldn't have the filthy smelly things in the house.
A definite health hazard.


harryagain

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Aug 8, 2012, 2:13:30 AM8/8/12
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<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
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People with animals in the house are more likely to be sick.
Cats are the worst disease carriers.
Animals belong outdoors.


k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 8, 2012, 12:43:10 PM8/8/12
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You've sure proved yourself wrong, again, harry.

>Cats are the worst disease carriers.

Nonsense.

>Animals belong outdoors.

You're an idiot but we *all* know that.

Oren

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Aug 8, 2012, 12:55:28 PM8/8/12
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 12:43:10 -0400, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>>People with animals in the house are more likely to be sick.
>
>You've sure proved yourself wrong, again, harry.
>
>>Cats are the worst disease carriers.
>
>Nonsense.
>
>>Animals belong outdoors.
>
>You're an idiot but we *all* know that.

I bet money Susan's parrots live in his house.
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k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 8, 2012, 4:43:47 PM8/8/12
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Do you think she lets harry in the house once in a while?

Roy

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Aug 8, 2012, 7:50:27 PM8/8/12
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At one time I had about 16 barn cats, many of them were tame enough to catch. Finally had to get rid of all of them as the garden spot was becoming intolerably stinky with their urine and shit deposits. I gave most of them away and the coyotes cleaned up the rest. I would take worm medicine every year in case I got infected with their parasites.

gregz

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Aug 8, 2012, 7:51:46 PM8/8/12
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I can live without barking.

Greg

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 8, 2012, 8:18:24 PM8/8/12
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Teach the dog to not bark. Bad behavior is always the owner's fault.

jannaK

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Aug 9, 2012, 4:10:02 AM8/9/12
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true, cat's smell isn't good. the owner of that cat should provide some
cleaning measures.Perhaps taking a bath his pet well do.




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Jon Danniken

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Aug 9, 2012, 9:53:50 AM8/9/12
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On 08/08/2012 05:18 PM, k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>
>
> Teach the dog to not bark. Bad behavior is always the owner's fault.

That last sentence should be required knowledge for any dog owner.

Jon

Oren

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Aug 9, 2012, 10:54:24 AM8/9/12
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Yes. Or get a "barkless" dog.
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Oren

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Aug 9, 2012, 2:05:35 PM8/9/12
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Only with a flea -N- tick collar on him.
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k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 9, 2012, 8:20:28 PM8/9/12
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...and a muzzle, no doubt.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 9, 2012, 8:25:29 PM8/9/12
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Bigger breeds tend to bark less and are, in general, easier to train. Little
dogs often have a Napoleon complex but that can be fixed, too.

Roy

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Aug 10, 2012, 3:05:09 AM8/10/12
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Sure, any good dog psychiatrist should be able to straighten the little
yippers out with no problems whatsoever. I wonder how much that would cost.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 10, 2012, 9:15:10 AM8/10/12
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Good grief you're impotent. A couple of lessons with a dog trainer will teach
the owner everything he needs to know.

Roy

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Aug 10, 2012, 2:07:39 PM8/10/12
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Seems to me that YOU have the "Napoleonic" complex as well.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 10, 2012, 3:29:34 PM8/10/12
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Perhaps we should start calling you "Lucy" too, Lucy.

Roy

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Aug 10, 2012, 3:53:44 PM8/10/12
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Have no fricken idea of what you're talking about...you must be senile.

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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Aug 10, 2012, 7:01:14 PM8/10/12
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No, dingbat, you're the asshole playing net-psycho. God, what a stupid twit!

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