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Madra Dubh

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Jan 1, 2004, 9:27:04 PM1/1/04
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Tomorrow is my retirement day.
I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting upon
me laurels.

It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
I have worked a very long time.

Ah well, that's life isn't it?
Constant change.

Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.


Ann Getty

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Jan 1, 2004, 10:06:42 PM1/1/04
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 21:27:04 -0500, Madra Dubh wrote
(in message <YF4Jb.268819$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>):

> Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting upon
> me laurels.

Good for you, Conway. You've earned a bit of rest and relaxation. Just don't
spend all of it on your laurels, or your legs will fall asleep.

>
> It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> I have worked a very long time.
>
> Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> Constant change.
>
> Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
>

I'm sure you'll find plenty to do to keep out of trouble. ;-)

Ann


Madra Dubh

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Jan 1, 2004, 10:24:17 PM1/1/04
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"Ann Getty" <ann...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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That's the key, Ann, from everything I've heard, finding plenty to do.
According to the experts, there are some weird psychological effects taking
place when a man quits work.
Apparently a great deal of his self esteem is tied up in his work, no matter
how roundly he may damn his job.
We'll soon see, I guess.
Any of you auld gits what has retied got any words of wisdom along these
lines?
And you wives of retired men, how have you managed to cope with having the
old fossil under foot all the time?

Scot Kortegaard

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Jan 1, 2004, 10:41:19 PM1/1/04
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I knew a fella once that up and died soon after he retired. He was
known to be one of the hardest and most dedicated workers there. He was
seen coming around to the place he used to work well after he retired,
and spent a fair bit of time there. In short, he missed his work. I can
understand that, absolutely. He was also known not to have any hobbies
or many interests outside of work. Is it possible he died from boredom?
Much of a persons self worth is measured in the work they do.
I wonder .... does a stay-at-home Mom feel something the same when her
kids leave home? Empty nest syndrome?
***Stay busy!!!***
Cheers, and happy retirement, you lucky sod you,
Scot.

Jim Stewart

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Jan 2, 2004, 12:34:30 AM1/2/04
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"Scot Kortegaard" <s.kort...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Lots of men and women die right after retirement. And lots o us die on the
job.
It's got nothing to do with work. It's cause we get old. Help out around the
house.
Spoil the grandkids or the neignbor's grandkids. Go to the library and read
or
tell stories. Keep to a schedule and be sure your wife agrees to it. Go out
to eat
more than once a week, Dont forget lunches are fun, too.
You got your lodge, too. I always did want to see how a Master was installed
in
N.C.

Some of us live to see our great-great grand children. We can get real, real
old. Specially
Scots. Take care of the money. Remember the rule about masonic charity.


Jim Stewart


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 2, 2004, 4:10:35 AM1/2/04
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"Jim Stewart" <ste...@ceet.niu.edu> wrote in message
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>
> "Scot Kortegaard" <s.kort...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:zL5Jb.899806$pl3.821265@pd7tw3no...
> > Madra Dubh wrote:
> > > "Ann Getty" <ann...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:0001HW.BC1A49A1...@news.west.earthlink.net...
> > >
> > >>On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 21:27:04 -0500, Madra Dubh wrote
> > >>(in message
> > >
> > > <YF4Jb.268819$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>):
> > >
> > >>>Tomorrow is my retirement day.
.
> > > Any of you auld gits what has retired got any words of wisdom along
these
> > > lines?

> > I knew a fella once that up and died soon after he retired.

: ))
Hoo hoo! That's the best line tonight. What a hoot.

> Lots of men and women die right after retirement.

Gotta love it.
Yeah - you're almost certainly doomed Madra - I doubt if you'll last a week.
So sad.
hoot hoot yuk yuk yuk.
I love this ng.
A W-S

>And lots of us die on the job.

What a way to go eh?

MacLeo

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Jan 2, 2004, 6:18:19 AM1/2/04
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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Welcome to the ranks of the ROFs*.

Don't worry about finding volunteer work; it will find you..........

Enjoy...................

MacLeo [aka Da Chef] -- retired for over 7 years and still enjoying it,
especially when it is very bad weather when I get up and remember that I
don't have to be out there fighting all that traffic.

*ROFs = Retired Old Farts

Josiah Jenkins

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Jan 2, 2004, 10:36:58 AM1/2/04
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:27:04 GMT, I read these words from "Madra Dubh"
<cca...@worldnet.att.net> :

>Tomorrow is my retirement day.

Welcome to the club !


>
>It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
>I have worked a very long time.

About 127 years at the last count.


>
>Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.

After the "honeydos" ?

-- The Despicable Stewart
-- Perfidious Alban
-- http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Josiah Jenkins

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Jan 2, 2004, 10:51:52 AM1/2/04
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:41:19 GMT, I read these words from Scot
Kortegaard <s.kort...@shaw.ca> :
>Madra Dubh wrote:
<snipped>

>>
>> That's the key, Ann, from everything I've heard, finding plenty to do.
>> According to the experts, there are some weird psychological effects taking
>> place when a man quits work.
>> Apparently a great deal of his self esteem is tied up in his work, no matter
>> how roundly he may damn his job.
>> We'll soon see, I guess.
>> Any of you auld gits what has retied got any words of wisdom along these
>> lines?
>> And you wives of retired men, how have you managed to cope with having the
>> old fossil under foot all the time?
>>
>I knew a fella once that up and died soon after he retired. He was
>known to be one of the hardest and most dedicated workers there.
>He was seen coming around to the place he used to work well after he retired,
>and spent a fair bit of time there. In short, he missed his work.

Bad sign !!


>
>He was also known not to have any hobbies or many interests outside of work.

That's the clincher ! Something, or several things, (which you enjoy)
to occupy your time. Preferably at least one of them which makes you
use your brain, genealogy in my case.

Buy yourself a Harley, Madra !!

Bryn Fraser

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Jan 2, 2004, 9:07:12 AM1/2/04
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In message
<YF4Jb.268819$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Madra
Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> writes

>Tomorrow is my retirement day.
>I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting upon
>me laurels.

They can get pretty damn lumpy in a short time...


>
>It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
>I have worked a very long time.

From what I know of you, you also have a very extensive Real Life. That
will merely get bigger, bit like a new cupboard. Put it up and it will
immediately fill itself. Before long you will be wondering how you ever
managed to fit your work into a day with all the other things that
needed doing...


>
>Ah well, that's life isn't it?
>Constant change.

I worry about the effects of gravity more than I did... and this
Christmas I noticed that my wife was delighted to find a bottle of Syrup
of Figs in her Christmas stocking. A few years ago Santa would have
ended up wearing it as a suppository.


>
>Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.

Never volunteer...

Bryn


>
>

--
Brian Fraser Lovett-White

http://www.finhall.demon.co.uk

Madra Dubh

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Jan 2, 2004, 10:56:29 AM1/2/04
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"Scot Kortegaard" <s.kort...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Thanks, Scot.
You bring up a very good point. Does a housewife suffer similar feelings
when her children leave home?
Or worse, the man she loves and gave her life to, leaves her.

Madra Dubh

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Jan 2, 2004, 10:58:04 AM1/2/04
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"Jim Stewart" <ste...@ceet.niu.edu> wrote in message
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>
I do intend to keep a full schedule.
It would be far too easy to flop down on me chair and say "well, it's all
over but the shouting now"


Madra Dubh

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Jan 2, 2004, 11:04:28 AM1/2/04
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You'll never know how these posts are cheering me up!
Why, I have a whole new outlook on all this.
Yes sir, I'll hve no money problems during retirement.
I'll be dead and gone long before the money runs out.
;=)
(Just teasing, gang, I know what you are saying)

Madra Dubh

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Jan 2, 2004, 11:07:39 AM1/2/04
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"MacLeo" <leja...@erols.com> wrote in message
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Now here's a man after me own heart.
NOW I get to do what I want to do.....
Or what me dear wife wants me to do.................


Madra Dubh

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Jan 2, 2004, 11:12:15 AM1/2/04
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"Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:27:04 GMT, I read these words from "Madra Dubh"
> <cca...@worldnet.att.net> :
>
> >Tomorrow is my retirement day.
>
> Welcome to the club !
> >
> >It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> >I have worked a very long time.
>
> About 127 years at the last count.
> >
> >Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
>
> After the "honeydos" ?

My dear wife bought a book dealing with boundaries and how to set them.
One chapter deals with husbands setting boundaries on wifely chores and
projects.
The husband is to deed to the wife an agreed on number of hours a week for
chores and projects.
The wife is to remember that just because it is the wife's wish and want
doesn't make it mandatory for the husband to do it.
I have festooned the kitchen with copies of this sage advice.
I have also hidden the skillet.


Rick

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Jan 2, 2004, 11:20:12 AM1/2/04
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Madra Dubh wrote:

Congratulations, Conway!
Now you can leave them Flatlands and come back home...
But there is work to be done up here!
There is fishing and hunting. And it's a little late for the winter garden
but Spring is coming! And don't forget...Someone has to read the Signs to
figure out what the weather is gonna do.
Then there is tourist counting. VERY important to keep track of the number of
tourists. They might try to sneak one by us.
Horizon watching. I'm not sure exactly why, but it's a regular pastime. You
have to develop that "far away" gaze to be effective though...
Oh, and practice your "You aint from around heah, are ya?" pronouncation.
It's expected.
Don't forget "Hillwalking". While disparaged in some countries, it is a
necessity here. Not much choice. If you are going from "here" to "over
yonder". Although, under my current circumstances, I would recommend using the
foot log down by the crick to get there... Wet boots *are* something to sneeze
at!! ;-)
VISITATIN'! I almost forgot visitatin'. You got to socialize. Although that
can be a bore at times. Although it does have it's compensations cause you
always have to take home someone's canned goods. Homemade jellies and jams.
'Maters and beans and chowchow. Dried Apples and Leatherjackets. Yep.
Visitatin' *can* be full filling.

Ian Smith

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"Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps he could write a book, passing on all those years of
wisdom. ;-)


Helen Ramsay

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Jan 2, 2004, 11:45:07 AM1/2/04
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"Bryn Fraser" <br...@finhall.demon.co.uk> wrote

> and this
> Christmas I noticed that my wife was delighted to find a bottle of Syrup
> of Figs in her Christmas stocking. A few years ago Santa would have
> ended up wearing it as a suppository.

Syrup of Figs! Gawd almighty Bryn! I haven't laughed so loud in a long
time! Thank you my friend:)

Cheers, Helen (still chortling as I write this!)
hramsay at cogeco dot ca

Helen Ramsay

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Jan 2, 2004, 11:48:06 AM1/2/04
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"Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote

> Madra Dubh wrote:
>
> > Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> > I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting
upon
> > me laurels.

> Congratulations, Conway!


> Now you can leave them Flatlands and come back home...
> But there is work to be done up here!

<snipped all the "good" things that need done<G>)

> VISITATIN'! I almost forgot visitatin'. You got to socialize. Although
that
> can be a bore at times. Although it does have it's compensations cause
you
> always have to take home someone's canned goods. Homemade jellies and
jams.
> 'Maters and beans and chowchow. Dried Apples and Leatherjackets. Yep.
> Visitatin' *can* be full filling.

Sounds like you got 'visitatin' down to a fine art! Good on ya! You'll
never starve:)

Cheers, Helen

Rick

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Jan 2, 2004, 11:56:44 AM1/2/04
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Helen Ramsay wrote:

Might be hard times up here, Miz Helen, but as long as there are gardens, we
don't go hungry. Of course, this younger generation don't know the joys of
weedin' in the hot sun or shuckin' corn or strippin' beans or churning
butter....
HEY! Wait a minute!! That wasn't fun! I gotta go talk to my grandparents...


Elaine Goldberg

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Jan 2, 2004, 12:07:20 PM1/2/04
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The Despicable Stewart wrote:

<snip>

>Buy yourself a Harley, Madra !!

Or, take up quilting, Conway! It's addicting!

Elaine

Elaine Goldberg

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Jan 2, 2004, 12:04:21 PM1/2/04
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MacLeo wrote:

>MacLeo [aka Da Chef] -- retired for over
> 7 years and still enjoying it,

Hey, Da Chef, any chance you'll be in Scotland during the week of June
5-12? The quilters are planning a big party to include everyone!

Elaine

Helen Ramsay

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"Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote

> The Despicable Stewart wrote:
>
> >Buy yourself a Harley, Madra !!
>
> Or, take up quilting, Conway! It's addicting!

He'll have lots of time to take Sherry to Scotland! And ...Wales, Isle of
Man and Ireland:) Go for it man! Time's a-wastin' <G>

I'm surprised you didn't jump on that Elaine! You're slipping :)

Elaine Goldberg

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Jan 2, 2004, 1:07:48 PM1/2/04
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Helen wrote:

>He'll have lots of time to take Sherry to
> Scotland! And ...Wales, Isle of
>Man and Ireland:) Go for it man! Time's
> a-wastin' <G>

Helen's right, Conway! A perfect time for your trip would be to include
June 5-12!

>I'm surprised you didn't jump on that
> Elaine! You're slipping :)

You're right, Helen! I've been trying to collect my thoughts regarding
Conway's retirement, and I've not quite decided how to respond to his
announcement. Now's as good a time as any, I suppose.

I was forced to retire earlier than planned due to health reasons. I'm
not sure I like the lack of structure in my life, now. Having always
thrived on a 'mandatory' routine and schedule, I'm thinking I may look
for some kind of job, at the end of summer, now that my foot is healed,
and I'm feeling good again. Besides, the money may run out,
necessitating a search for some kind of work. :)

Congratulations on this milestone, Conway. It's an opportunity to do
all the 'fun' things you never had time for while you were working.

At one time, I recall your wanting to find a canine companion. Did you
end up getting a dog? Now that you're retired, a dog would provide a
wonderful focus for you. You'd get plenty of exercise. I adopted a
terrific dog one week ago, and just caring for him, has provided my life
with some of the structure that I've been craving.

I suspect that some retirees languish due to no longer feeling 'needed'.
Having to care for a pet would certainly alleviate any of those
feelings. Of course people with partners probably have plenty of
'honey-do' lists and chores, so that it's not a problem. :)

Have fun, Conway! Why not plan a trip abroad, and come to Scotland when
we have our party! I've already had an e-mail from one of our Mountain
Top Lodge gang, inquiring about the details, so it can be a reunion for
some of us who already know each other, as well as a chance to make new
friends.

Elaine

Ann Getty

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Jan 2, 2004, 3:37:18 PM1/2/04
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 8:15:55 -0500, MacHamish wrote
(in message <t3qavvo2b96lvs2b3...@4ax.com>):

> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:24:17 GMT, "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ann Getty" <ann...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:0001HW.BC1A49A1...@news.west.earthlink.net...
>>> On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 21:27:04 -0500, Madra Dubh wrote
>>> (in message
>> <YF4Jb.268819$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>):
>>>
>>>> Tomorrow is my retirement day.
>>>> I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting
>> upon
>>>> me laurels.
>>>
>>> Good for you, Conway. You've earned a bit of rest and relaxation. Just
>> don't
>>> spend all of it on your laurels, or your legs will fall asleep.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
>>>> I have worked a very long time.
>>>>
>>>> Ah well, that's life isn't it?
>>>> Constant change.
>>>>
>>>> Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure you'll find plenty to do to keep out of trouble. ;-)
>>
>> That's the key, Ann, from everything I've heard, finding plenty to do.
>

> No it isn't, Madra. You don't have to do anything necessarily. There's
> nothing wrong with just relaxing and wasting time. You can just sit out on
> the front stoop and whittle on a stick if you want to, and no one can
> gainsay you for it (excluding herself, of course).

Don't let him fool you, Conway. I get the feeling he's bored silly now that
it's too cold for him to go out and play golf every day. :-)

Making the adjustment to retirement means different things to different
people. Some need to remain active, others are content with doin' nuthin.'
You'll eventually discover what suits you best.

Ann

Jim Stewart

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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Harramph. I find NOTHING funny in Syrup of Figs.

(Chortle, Chortle)

Jim Stewart


Sally

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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<Bv5Jb.269019$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

Conway - Don't worry about it! And don't be underfoot! Don't know
where your interests are other than posting here - but there is lots
to do besides staring at the tv, piddling around the house in
'honey-do' - unless, of course, that sort of thing appeals to you.
The two of you need your own lives as you have been all your working
years.
I retired August 1998. 30 years working for DOD! In the middle of
military thinking and military ways. My whole life tied up in the
important things of our Contry's welfare - its defense. I had talked
with the guys in the office, traded laughs, getting help in how to
work out what I probably would receive as pension.
Then out the door I went. My self esteem sorta took a holiday - the
one I hadn't taken that year. Then I went back to work - volunteer
two-three days a week on something that interests me but never had
time to do - help others. Started family search and learning history,
informally and formally (local college taking the courses I wanted
without regard to credits or a piece of paper at the end)
In other words - I follow my own desires outside of what must be done
within the house! Being a woman - that part never ends, no retirement
from housework!
For God's sake - do not try to teach your wife a better way of doing
anything around the house. She will be ready to scratch your eyes out!
My life is busier now than when I was working! Keep living and not
stewing! Don't be in a hurry to move to wherever it is you think would
be heavenly - it isn't! Don't know your age range - mine is in the
7th decade. Sally

Sally

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Jan 2, 2004, 4:43:35 PM1/2/04
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"Jim Stewart" <ste...@ceet.niu.edu> wrote in message news:<bt2vt0$38h$1...@usenet.cso.niu.edu>...

Jim, you reminded me - my father retired and his lodge and Shrine
Temple kept him alive and moving for another 25 years after he gave up
the 9-5 routine! Sally

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 2, 2004, 5:22:00 PM1/2/04
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"Jim Stewart" .

>Help out around the house.

!?
Very bad idea.
You really will be dead in a week if you try that one.
A W-S


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"MacHamish" <rus...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Yeah, like all the stress of working, meeting deadlines and schedules, and
> answering to bosses falls away. Gives you that weird psychological effect
> of FREEDOM. You can deal with it.

Yeah - Madra makes it sound like a ******* jail sentence or something.
If you've got reasonable health then you've already got 90% of what you need
to enjoy doing exactly what you want when you want.
I've retired several times - it was ******* brullyunt while it lasted.
Personally I would equip muself with a compact housebus, rent out the house
and bugger off touring the US for a year or two just for starters. That
alone would open up so many new avenues that you wouldn't have time to do
everything even though retired.
>
> Well, I hate to say it, but anyone who gets his total self esteem from his
> job deserves to die.

Absolutely. They should be afforded all possible assistance too.
The stock question from new aquaintances: 'What do you do?' kind of pisses
me off a bit as it infers that ones job is somehow intrinsically part of
ones self or character.
Well it isn't to me. I usually answer 'What do you want?'

> What I'm about to say is the most important advice about retirement
you'll
> ever get. STAY OUT OF HER WAY.

Definitely. The last thing your partner will want is someone 'helping' her.
It takes years of training to do her job and a bumbling, ancient apprentice
is unlikely to be high on her list of 'must haves'.

> Congratulations on your retirement, Madra. I'm sure you'll like it.

Yeah - like how hard can it be?
A W-S


Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
> news:h04bvvgm81c081v1m...@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:27:04 GMT, I read these words from "Madra Dubh"
> > <cca...@worldnet.att.net> :
> >
> > >Tomorrow is my retirement day.

> I have festooned the kitchen with copies of this sage advice.


> I have also hidden the skillet.
>

See? You're getting into the swing of it already.
A W-S


Glenallan

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Jan 2, 2004, 6:16:29 PM1/2/04
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"Ian Smith" <ianin...@ntlworld.takeoot.com> wrote in message
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> "Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
Preferably at least one of them which makes you
> > use your brain, genealogy in my case.
> >
> > Buy yourself a Harley, Madra !!
> >
> > -- The Despicable Stewart
> > -- Perfidious Alban
> > -- http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>
> Perhaps he could write a book, passing on all those years of
> wisdom. ;-)
--
It doesn't have to be wisdom!
I have started my apprenticeship early at.....

www.glenallan.dsl.pipex.com

BTW, I prefer a Kawasaki.

G
--


Josiah Jenkins

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:16:29 -0000, I read these words from "Glenallan"
<robert...@dsl.pipex.com> :

So do I, I've had two, but the Murkins have an aversion to
"rice-burners", unless they're Valkyries !!!

They seem to prefer the agriculural stuff that comes out of York, PA.

Ian Smith

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"Glenallan" <robert...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Smashin website. I will be trawling right through it for gems of
knowledge. Of that you can be assured!

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Ian Smith

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"Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
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Ah, you mean the chromium-rich ones that deafen you as they pass
by....


Madra Dubh

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"MacHamish" <rus...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:24:17 GMT, "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ann Getty" <ann...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:0001HW.BC1A49A1...@news.west.earthlink.net...
> >> On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 21:27:04 -0500, Madra Dubh wrote
> >> (in message
> ><YF4Jb.268819$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>):
> >>
> >> > Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> >> > I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting
> >upon
> >> > me laurels.
> >>
> >> Good for you, Conway. You've earned a bit of rest and relaxation. Just
> >don't
> >> spend all of it on your laurels, or your legs will fall asleep.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> >> > I have worked a very long time.
> >> >
> >> > Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> >> > Constant change.
> >> >
> >> > Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm sure you'll find plenty to do to keep out of trouble. ;-)
> >
> >That's the key, Ann, from everything I've heard, finding plenty to do.
>
> No it isn't, Madra. You don't have to do anything necessarily. There's
> nothing wrong with just relaxing and wasting time. You can just sit out
on
> the front stoop and whittle on a stick if you want to, and no one can
> gainsay you for it (excluding herself, of course).
>
> >According to the experts, there are some weird psychological effects
taking
> >place when a man quits work.
>
> Yeah, like all the stress of working, meeting deadlines and schedules, and
> answering to bosses falls away. Gives you that weird psychological effect
> of FREEDOM. You can deal with it.
>
> >Apparently a great deal of his self esteem is tied up in his work, no
matter
> >how roundly he may damn his job.
>
> Well, I hate to say it, but anyone who gets his total self esteem from his
> job deserves to die.
>
> >We'll soon see, I guess.
> >Any of you auld gits what has retied got any words of wisdom along these
> >lines?
>
> Yep, take up golf :-))

>
> >And you wives of retired men, how have you managed to cope with having
the
> >old fossil under foot all the time?
>
> What I'm about to say is the most important advice about retirement you'll
> ever get. STAY OUT OF HER WAY.

****My dear wife sdys that is the best piece of advice I've received to
date.
Take up gawf?
Oh no, I intend a stress free retirement.


> Congratulations on your retirement, Madra. I'm sure you'll like it.
>
>

> MacHamish Mór
>


Madra Dubh

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"Ann Getty" <ann...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I've got to stay active.
This newsgroup will be a big help.
And there are scores of opportunities for volunteer work.


Madra Dubh

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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I take it the "Pity me" ploy isn't going to work around here.
Sympathy isn't you guys long suit, eh?
God knows what you people might be doing to poor cripples what cross yer
path.


Madra Dubh

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"Ian Smith" <ianin...@ntlworld.takeoot.com> wrote in message
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Aye, that's the rub.
We spend years garnering all this knowledge and no one wants to listen to
us.


Madra Dubh

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Jan 2, 2004, 10:25:32 PM1/2/04
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Right now I'm more interested in this "Syrup Of Figs".
Is that some sort of Scottish youth restorer?
Or what?
(I rode a Harley once. Almost killed my fool self)


Helen Ramsay

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Jan 2, 2004, 11:31:34 PM1/2/04
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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote

> Right now I'm more interested in this "Syrup Of Figs".
> Is that some sort of Scottish youth restorer?

It's a youth restorer all right :)

http://tinyurl.com/yvxnp

Cheers, Helen

Bryn Fraser

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Jan 3, 2004, 3:54:32 AM1/3/04
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In message
<MCqJb.585817$0v4.23...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Madra
Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> writes

Surely you have heard of the virtues of "Californian Syrup of Figs"...
Up there with Croton Oil in the hierarchy of efficacious liquids for the
over forties...


>Is that some sort of Scottish youth restorer?

The catch is, it only works short term...


>Or what?
>(I rode a Harley once. Almost killed my fool self)
>
>

Bryn
--

Ian Smith

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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Maybe a website as a precursor to a book?.....


Madra Dubh

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"Bryn Fraser" <br...@finhall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message
> <YF4Jb.268819$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Madra
> Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> writes

> >Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> >I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting
upon
> >me laurels.
>
> They can get pretty damn lumpy in a short time...

> >
> >It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> >I have worked a very long time.
>
> From what I know of you, you also have a very extensive Real Life. That
> will merely get bigger, bit like a new cupboard. Put it up and it will
> immediately fill itself. Before long you will be wondering how you ever
> managed to fit your work into a day with all the other things that
> needed doing...

Yes, I agree.
I was attempting to solicite a little pity from the group.
Fool me!
;=)

And today's activities will include taking down the decorations, tilling the
garden, trimming the Myrtles, and watching my grandson play basketball.
Full cabinet inbdeed!


> >Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> >Constant change.
>

> I worry about the effects of gravity more than I did... and this


> Christmas I noticed that my wife was delighted to find a bottle of Syrup
> of Figs in her Christmas stocking. A few years ago Santa would have
> ended up wearing it as a suppository.
> >

> >Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
>

> Never volunteer...
>
> Bryn
>
>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Brian Fraser Lovett-White
>
> http://www.finhall.demon.co.uk


Madra Dubh

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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You could have gone all day without saying "Swing".


Madra Dubh

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"Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Quilting?
My fingers would look as though they were run through a shredder.


Madra Dubh

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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote
> > The Despicable Stewart wrote:
> >
> > >Buy yourself a Harley, Madra !!
> >
> > Or, take up quilting, Conway! It's addicting!
>
> He'll have lots of time to take Sherry to Scotland! And ...Wales, Isle of
> Man and Ireland:) Go for it man! Time's a-wastin' <G>
>
> I'm surprised you didn't jump on that Elaine! You're slipping :)
>
We always wanted to take that exact tour, Miz Helen, but soc.culture.irish
disabused us of that notion!
;=)
But you good Scots are gradually restoring our confidence.


S Viemeister

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Thimbles, Madra - thimbles.

Séimí mac Liam

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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
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> Tomorrow is my retirement day.

> I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting
> upon me laurels.
>

> It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> I have worked a very long time.
>

> Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> Constant change.
>

> Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
>
>

Yahoo. I shall speak to Sherry about keeping you busy. Did I ever send
those links to the modular house?

--
Saint Séimí mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99

SammyM

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Jan 3, 2004, 1:08:12 PM1/3/04
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"Madra Dubh" wrote :-

<Laugh> There are some weird ones in that group - That's why I find myself
visiting soc.culture.scottish more and more recently. No weird ones here : )

Don't let them put you off, you must include Ireland in any trip.

Have a long and happy retirement. (welcome to the club)

SammyM


Elaine Goldberg

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SammyM wrote:

><Laugh>   There are some weird ones in
> that group - That's why I find myself
> visiting soc.culture.scottish more and
> more recently. No weird ones here : )

You haven't been here long, have you! :)

Elaine

Tom

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Madra Dubh wrote:

> Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting upon
> me laurels.
>
> It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> I have worked a very long time.
>
> Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> Constant change.
>
> Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.

Congratulations. Will you get half price on the busses too?

Tom


SammyM

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"Elaine Goldberg" wrote

>SammyM wrote:

You mean this "Peace and Goodwill Towards All" could suddenly change ;-)

SammyM

Madra Dubh

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"Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote in message
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> Madra Dubh wrote:
>
> > Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> > I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting
upon
> > me laurels.
> >
> > It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> > I have worked a very long time.
> >
> > Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> > Constant change.
> >
> > Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
>
> Congratulations, Conway!
> Now you can leave them Flatlands and come back home...
> But there is work to be done up here!
> There is fishing and hunting. And it's a little late for the winter
garden
> but Spring is coming! And don't forget...Someone has to read the Signs to
> figure out what the weather is gonna do.
> Then there is tourist counting. VERY important to keep track of the number
of
> tourists. They might try to sneak one by us.
> Horizon watching. I'm not sure exactly why, but it's a regular pastime.
You
> have to develop that "far away" gaze to be effective though...
> Oh, and practice your "You aint from around heah, are ya?" pronouncation.
> It's expected.
> Don't forget "Hillwalking". While disparaged in some countries, it is a
> necessity here. Not much choice. If you are going from "here" to "over
> yonder". Although, under my current circumstances, I would recommend using
the
> foot log down by the crick to get there... Wet boots *are* something to
sneeze
> at!! ;-)
> VISITATIN'! I almost forgot visitatin'. You got to socialize. Although
that
> can be a bore at times. Although it does have it's compensations cause you
> always have to take home someone's canned goods. Homemade jellies and
jams.
> 'Maters and beans and chowchow. Dried Apples and Leatherjackets. Yep.
> Visitatin' *can* be full filling.

It do sound like home, Rick.
Never left a house after a visit without getting an arm load of canned
stuff.
And nowhere in the world is there a better chowchow to be found that in our
mountains.
What would soup beans be without a tablespoon full of chowchow?
Won't be long afore the lakes turn and the Crappie start biting.

Have you seen "Cold Mountain" yet?
An outstanding movie.
And whoever played that little mountain girl "heping out" Nicole Kidman had
the mannerisms and accent down pat.
I recommend it.

Madra Dubh

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"MacHamish" <rus...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Madra, you'd have to think of your gowf game as a comedy of errors.
> Laughter keeps a man young.
>
Tried that, Mac.
Tried to play rounds where I kept no score.
Didn't work.


Madra Dubh

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"Ian Smith" <ianin...@ntlworld.takeoot.com> wrote in message
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With our luck, nobody would visit the website, let alone read one of our
books.


Madra Dubh

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"Bryn Fraser" <br...@finhall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Is this some sort of prune substitute?
I found that Metamucil gets the job done on a regular basis.
("Regular", get it?)


Madra Dubh

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"SammyM" <Sam...@world.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Sammy but as none other than Unki himself once said
"SCI is NOT Ireland".
I agree, SCS is a much nicer place.


Madra Dubh

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"S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message
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Oh sure and have all the boys poking fun at me?
No thanks.
"Looky, boys, there's old thimble finger Conway asewing away with the
ladies. Haw, haw!"

Madra Dubh

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"Séimí mac Liam" <gwy...@aracnet.com> wrote in message
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> "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
> news:YF4Jb.268819$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
> > Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> > I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting
> > upon me laurels.
> >
> > It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> > I have worked a very long time.
> >
> > Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> > Constant change.
> >
> > Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
> >
> >
>
> Yahoo. I shall speak to Sherry about keeping you busy. Did I ever send
> those links to the modular house?

Links to a modular house?
Don't think so.
But please head up the email ""Don't delete this, yah auld git"


Madra Dubh

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Jan 3, 2004, 3:06:38 PM1/3/04
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"Tom" <some...@nOpam.com> wrote in message
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Could be, Tom.
There's all sorts of perks and benis associated with being retired.


S Viemeister

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My very thought!

S Viemeister

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And here was me thinking you were secure enough in your masculinity to
attempt the challenge of quilting. Oh well.......

Bryn Fraser

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Jan 3, 2004, 4:19:30 PM1/3/04
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In message
<GcFJb.590279$0v4.23...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Madra

That's it...


>I found that Metamucil gets the job done on a regular basis.
>("Regular", get it?)

Metamucil... Good stuff... Hard to get on the NHS...

Elaine Goldberg

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Jan 3, 2004, 4:24:02 PM1/3/04
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SammyM wrote:

>You mean this "Peace and Goodwill
> Towards All" could suddenly change ;-)

Probably. But then the pendulum will swing back again.

As you are fairly new here, perhaps you've not seen the SCS "Informer".
Allow me to introduce some of the 'regulars' to you.

http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/informer.htm

Elaine

Elaine Goldberg

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Jan 3, 2004, 4:33:18 PM1/3/04
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Conway wrote:

<snip>

>Have you seen "Cold Mountain" yet?
>An outstanding movie.

I don't go to movies, but I've heard about this one.

>And whoever played that little mountain
> girl "heping out" Nicole Kidman had the
> mannerisms and accent down pat.
>I recommend it.

I've heard that Reneé Zellweger is one of the actresses. I really
liked her in the video I have of "Jerry Maguire".

Elaine

Ann Getty

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Jan 3, 2004, 5:11:07 PM1/3/04
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:15:04 -0500, S Viemeister wrote
(in message <3FF730D8...@which.net>):

Ditto! Perhaps he hasn't caught us on a "good" day yet.

SammyM

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"Elaine Goldberg" wrote :-

> As you are fairly new here, perhaps you've not seen the SCS "Informer".
> Allow me to introduce some of the 'regulars' to you.
>
> http://www.ian-stewart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/informer.htm
>
> Elaine


Thanks Elaine,
I just had a quick look.

So "Madra Dubh" means Black Dog (didn't know and I'm Irish, shows you what
"side of the tracks" I come from!!

I'll keep on the right side of you - that "Goto" the Hound from Hell", looks
menacing.

My favourite storyteller "Glenallen", is just plain "Robert", doesn't sound
the same!!

"Auld Bob", is he still around ? I've came across him in some cross-postings
and have enjoyed his contributions.

I'll look at the rest when I get time.

Thanks again.

SammyM


SammyM

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Jan 3, 2004, 5:37:52 PM1/3/04
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"Ann Getty" wrote :-

> S Viemeister wrote:-


> > Elaine Goldberg wrote:
> >> SammyM wrote:

> >>> <Laugh> There are some weird ones in
> >>> that group - That's why I find myself
> >>> visiting soc.culture.scottish more and
> >>> more recently. No weird ones here : )

> >> You haven't been here long, have you! :)

> > My very thought!

> Ditto! Perhaps he hasn't caught us on a "good" day yet.


Even Conway has admitted :- "I agree, SCS is a much nicer place."

"nicer" has still to be defined : )

I'll do a mid-term report on 17th March ( St. Paddy's day - - of course)

SammyM

Bryn Fraser

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Jan 3, 2004, 5:37:24 PM1/3/04
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In message <22374-3F...@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>, Elaine
Goldberg <ElaineF...@webtv.net> writes
She is a class act, a real chameleon. The Diary of Bridget Jones was not
a very good movie but her doing English, brilliant! She can be
anybody...
>
Bryn

ejaycee

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Jan 3, 2004, 6:31:46 PM1/3/04
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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>> > > Tomorrow is my retirement day.

<snip>


> > > Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.

Congratulations Madra -
After the intial euphoria of being able to lie in a little, having no
pressure to be anywhere at a set time or get anything done because
there is always tomorrow, and wondering just what you are going to
fill the o day it won't be long before you are wondering how on earth
you had the time to go to work at all.

I have always had my husband around as we have mostly worked together,
so retirement hasn't been a hassle for us..

My own thoughts are to have plenty interests, some you can share and
some that give you and your wife your own 'space' occasionally. Don't
expect to do everything together.
I have friends who have never worked and they all seem to be worried
that having a retired husband around will upset their daily routine,
they will have to make endless cups of coffee and not be able to go
out like they did previously [coffee mornings, lunches type things]
so those points need thinking about - how your being home will affect
the better half.

> Apparently a great deal of his self esteem is tied up in his work,
no matter
> how roundly he may damn his job.

This is also true with women - After my last 9 - 8 pm job in a
managerial capacity , it took me 18 months to get used to my loss of
'person and position' and having the capacity to get someone else to
get things done

If you had plenty of interests without work you will have no problems.
One of the things I have found is that my time on scs has dropped,
what used to be my litle 'escape' when working on the computer took
a backstep as other interests I couldn't follow due to work hours,
claimed my time.

Enjoy - just keep out your wife's way until she's used to you being
around. [G]

Ejaycee


Elaine Goldberg

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:34:36 PM1/3/04
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Sheila wrote:

>And here was me thinking you were
> secure enough in your masculinity to
> attempt the challenge of quilting. Oh
> well.......

Conway can be very enigmatic at times!

Elaine

Elaine Goldberg

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Jan 3, 2004, 10:44:05 PM1/3/04
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SammyM wrote:

>Thanks Elaine,
>I just had a quick look.

>So "Madra Dubh" means Black Dog
> (didn't know and I'm Irish, shows you
> what "side of the tracks" I come from!!

Probably the 'right' side. The things you learn at s.c.s.!

>I'll keep on the right side of you - that
> "Goto" the Hound from Hell", looks
> menacing.

That's one of my son's dogs. Actually, his name is "Millhouse". He's a
170 lb. mastiff, and is a real sweetie! Their other dog is a 120 lb.
lab named "Bo". They're the ones who just had twins last August, so you
can imagine what a houseful it is!

>My favourite storyteller "Glenallen", is
> just plain "Robert", doesn't sound the
> same!!

It doesn't have the same 'ring' to it, does it!

>"Auld Bob", is he still around ? I've came
> across him in some cross-postings and
> have enjoyed his contributions.

He's not been heard from lately, although he sent holiday greetings to
some of the posters, so they know he's still around.

>I'll look at the rest when I get time.
>Thanks again.

You're welcome! Joisiah Jenkins deserves a lot of credit for doing such
a good job with the site!

Elaine

Elaine Goldberg

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Jan 3, 2004, 11:07:23 PM1/3/04
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Elaine wrote:

<snip>

>You're welcome! Joisiah Jenkins
> deserves a lot of credit for doing such a
> good job with the site!

You'd think if I'm going to give someone credit, I could at least spell
their name right, and not typo it! Josiah!!! You know, that Ole
Despicable guy!

Sheesh! I'm starting to spell like the Jersey Flash!

Elaine

Helen Ramsay

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"Bryn Fraser" <br...@finhall.demon.co.uk> wrote
> Madra Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> writes

> >Is this some sort of prune substitute?
>
> That's it...
> >I found that Metamucil gets the job done on a regular basis.
> >("Regular", get it?)
>
> Metamucil... Good stuff... Hard to get on the NHS...

I'm sure my Mother gets it Bryn.

Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca


Elaine Goldberg

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MacHamish wrote:

>Did you hear that, Conway? So it's
> enigmatic you are now. Sure, and
> doesn't it sound posh.

Does it? My mother-in-law used to say how 'enigmatic' I was (and I
wasn't even trying to be)!

Elaine

ejaycee

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"SammyM" <Sam...@world.com> wrote in message
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> "Madra Dubh" wrote :-
>
> > "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:bt49ld$33bam$1...@ID-207901.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> > > He'll have lots of time to take Sherry to Scotland! And
...Wales, Isle of
> > > Man and Ireland:) Go for it man! Time's a-wastin' <G>
> > > I'm surprised you didn't jump on that Elaine! You're slipping :)
>
>
> > We always wanted to take that exact tour, Miz Helen, but
soc.culture.irish
> > disabused us of that notion!
> > ;=)

CHICKEN!

I shall be visiting Ireland some time this year after our great
quilting meet up.
- its a time for living dangerously - who knows what tomorow will
bring and your a long time dead

Ejaycee


>
> <Laugh> There are some weird ones in that group - That's why I
find myself
> visiting soc.culture.scottish more and more recently. No weird ones
here : )
>

> Don't let them put you off, you must include Ireland in any trip.
>
> Have a long and happy retirement. (welcome to the club)
>

> SammyM
>
>


ejaycee

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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote

> > Right now I'm more interested in this "Syrup Of Figs".
> > Is that some sort of Scottish youth restorer?
>
> It's a youth restorer all right :)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yvxnp
>
Friday night wasn't complete without our dose of Syrup of Figs
followed by Malt Extract straight after our weekly bath in a tin bath
front of the
fire.

Ejaycee>
>

ejaycee

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"S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message
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> Madra Dubh wrote:
> >
> > "S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FF6D29C...@which.net...
> > > Madra Dubh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:648-3FF5...@storefull-3114.bay.webtv.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > The Despicable Stewart wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > >Buy yourself a Harley, Madra !!
> > > > >
> > > > > Or, take up quilting, Conway! It's addicting!
> > > > >
> > > > Quilting?
> > > > My fingers would look as though they were run through a
shredder.
> > >
> > > Thimbles, Madra - thimbles.
> >
> > Oh sure and have all the boys poking fun at me?
> > No thanks.
> > "Looky, boys, there's old thimble finger Conway asewing away with
the
> > ladies. Haw, haw!"
>
Don't knock it .......

My husband does cross stitch and does lovely work andn ow one makes
mock of him.
One of the most butch fellas I ever met, he was a long distance lorry
driver with short stubby fingers as thick as my arms confessed to
doing cross stitch. I still don't know how he held the needle.

Ejaycee


Helen Ramsay

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"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote
> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote
> > > Right now I'm more interested in this "Syrup Of Figs".
> > > Is that some sort of Scottish youth restorer?
> >
> > It's a youth restorer all right :)
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yvxnp
> >
> Friday night wasn't complete without our dose of Syrup of Figs
> followed by Malt Extract straight after our weekly bath in a tin bath
> front of the
> fire.
>
Those were the days my friend :)

I can't believe I've been up a bliddy nicht! Ah'm awa tae ma kip!

The Jersey Flash

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 23:07:23 -0500, Elaine Goldberg wrote
(in message <22377-3F...@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>):

What's wrong with my spelling???

--
The Jersey Flash
Shameless Hussy of s.c.s.

Ann Getty

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 23:01:16 -0500, MacHamish wrote
(in message <kt3fvvs8l462jg6p0...@4ax.com>):

> Did you hear that, Conway? So it's enigmatic you are now. Sure, and
> doesn't it sound posh.
>

> MacHamish Mór
>

Sounds a lot more posh than saying that he leaves folk scratchin' their heads
in puzzlement.

Ann

Elaine Goldberg

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Ejaycee wrote:

>Don't knock it .......

>My husband does cross stitch and does
> lovely work andn ow one makes mock of
> him.
>One of the most butch fellas I ever met,
> he was a long distance lorry driver with
> short stubby fingers as thick as my arms
> confessed to doing cross stitch. I still
> don't know how he held the needle.

One of my sons know how to knit, and he also made a latch-hook rug
during his student years. There's nothing pansy or sissy about him!

Elaine

Elaine Goldberg

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The Jersey Flash wrote:

>What's wrong with my spelling???

Well.....'somebody' always spells Jersey, "Joisey" ......and if it isn't
you, it must be Da Judge.

Moonie

Helen Ramsay

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Jan 4, 2004, 3:44:26 PM1/4/04
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"SammyM" <Sam...@world.com> wrote

> Even Conway has admitted :- "I agree, SCS is a much nicer place."
>
> "nicer" has still to be defined : )
>
> I'll do a mid-term report on 17th March ( St. Paddy's day - - of
course)

Oooo! I can hardly wait!

Helen Ramsay

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"Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote

My Dad learned to embroider when he was in the hospital during the war. He
did a beautiful job of the Royal Navy crest on a runner. Geez! I wonder
where that went.

The Jersey Flash

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:30:27 -0500, Elaine Goldberg wrote
(in message <22374-3FF...@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net>):

It's de Judge who keeps doing that. I told him that only New Yorkers say
"Joisey." The proper way to say "Jersey" is to pronounce it with a heavy
emphasis on the R.

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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Jan 5, 2004, 12:56:36 AM1/5/04
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"Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well this might blow your feeble little minds ladies - I do embroidery.
(: o
Well - kind of.
I embroider the faces on to custom-made rag dolls that the Bidey-in
manufactures to order in return for shamefully thick wads of used
spondulicks.
I'm the arty one you see, and can capture the expression required. They are
usually modelled on real people and need to resemble the person. The
Bidey-in is amazing at making the 'blanks' and the clothes. They are also
dressed to resemble the subjects characteristic atire.
So there you go - AW-S is a nancy boy after all.
By the way - I can also knit - my Mother taught me when I was about 8.
Am I not simply adorable?
--
The adorable Adam Whyte-Settlar
- destined to be forever in the minority


Elaine Goldberg

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A W-S wrote:

>Well this might blow your feeble little
> minds ladies - I do embroidery. (: o
>Well - kind of.

>I embroider the faces on to custom-made
> rag dolls that the Bidey-in manufactures
> to order in return for shamefully thick
> wads of used spondulicks.

>I'm the arty one you see, and can
> capture the expression required. They
> are usually modelled on real people and
> need to resemble the person.

I'd love to see some of them. Could you post some pics?

I did a series of soft sculpture witches one Halloween, and the
resemblance to my friends was really eerie!

>The Bidey-in is amazing at making the
> 'blanks' and the clothes. They are also
> dressed to resemble the subjects
> characteristic atire.

She'd probably be great at quilting! You probably didn't tell her about
the s.c.s. quilters, did you!

>So there you go - AW-S is a nancy boy
> after all. By the way - I can also knit -
> my Mother taught me when I was about
> 8. Am I not simply adorable?

I'd say just about 100%. (It was the "feeble little minds ladies" that
lowered your score ever so slightly). :)

Elaine

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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"Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
>> custom-made rag dolls

> I'd love to see some of them. Could you post some pics?

If I knew how to set up a web site then it would still be useless as we
don't carry a 'stock'.
Do you know what 'manufactures to order' means?

Even if we carried a stock then I would need a digital camera.

If I had a digital camera then, no - I can't be arsed.
A W-S

Mike MacKinnon

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"Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<YF4Jb.268819$Ec1.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

> Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting upon
> me laurels.
>
> It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> I have worked a very long time.
>
> Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> Constant change.

>
> Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.


Roll on 2019 when i can join you! If I last that long!

M

Helen Ramsay

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Jan 5, 2004, 10:42:22 AM1/5/04
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawi...@hotmail.com> wrote
> "Helen Ramsay" <r...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > "Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote
> > >

> > > One of my sons know how to knit, and he also made a latch-hook rug
> > > during his student years. There's nothing pansy or sissy about him!
> >
> > My Dad learned to embroider when he was in the hospital during the war.
He
> > did a beautiful job of the Royal Navy crest on a runner. Geez! I wonder
> > where that went.
>
> Well this might blow your feeble little minds ladies - I do embroidery.
> (: o

I sincerely hope the smiley was to take the sting out of the "feeble little
minds". Ya bassa!

> Well - kind of.
> I embroider the faces on to custom-made rag dolls that the Bidey-in
> manufactures to order in return for shamefully thick wads of used
> spondulicks.
> I'm the arty one you see, and can capture the expression required.

Arty you may be, artful even, but you sure ain't diplomatic. (See above)
Yir a get close siccond tae yir neebs Tam the Bam!

>They are
> usually modelled on real people and need to resemble the person. The
> Bidey-in is amazing at making the 'blanks' and the clothes. They are also
> dressed to resemble the subjects characteristic atire.
> So there you go - AW-S is a nancy boy after all.
> By the way - I can also knit - my Mother taught me when I was about 8.
> Am I not simply adorable?

Well, you've certainly gone up a notch in my estimation. A few more
revelations of this calibre and you might even get out of the hole you've
dug yourself into over the years!

Madra Dubh

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Jan 5, 2004, 8:32:14 PM1/5/04
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"S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message
news:3FF73180...@which.net...
> Madra Dubh wrote:
> >
> > "S Viemeister" <firstname...@which.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FF6D29C...@which.net...
> > > Madra Dubh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:648-3FF5...@storefull-3114.bay.webtv.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > The Despicable Stewart wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > >Buy yourself a Harley, Madra !!
> > > > >
> > > > > Or, take up quilting, Conway! It's addicting!
> > > > >
> > > > Quilting?
> > > > My fingers would look as though they were run through a shredder.
> > >
> > > Thimbles, Madra - thimbles.
> >
> > Oh sure and have all the boys poking fun at me?
> > No thanks.
> > "Looky, boys, there's old thimble finger Conway asewing away with the
> > ladies. Haw, haw!"
>
> And here was me thinking you were secure enough in your masculinity to
> attempt the challenge of quilting. Oh well.......

Oh I'm secure enough in all that all right, it's that confounded "Haw
Hawing" that gets my goat.


Madra Dubh

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"Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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It's the Welsh part of me
.


Madra Dubh

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"MacHamish" <rus...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:34:36 -0700 (MST), ElaineF...@webtv.net (Elaine
> Goldberg) wrote:
>
> >
> Did you hear that, Conway? So it's enigmatic you are now. Sure, and
> doesn't it sound posh.
>
An enigma wrapped in a riddle, that's me.


Madra Dubh

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"Ann Getty" <ann...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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'Round hyar, Miz Ann, We'uns scratch t'other end.


Madra Dubh

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"ejaycee" <mise_m...@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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I'm engaging in hyperbole again, Ejaycee.
;=)


Madra Dubh

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"MacHamish" <rus...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:57:06 GMT, "Madra Dubh" <cca...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Rick" <notgi...@alltel.net> wrote in message
> >news:3FF59A3C...@alltel.net...

> >> Madra Dubh wrote:
> >>
> >> > Tomorrow is my retirement day.
> >> > I officially leave the workforce to spend the rest of my life resting
> >upon
> >> > me laurels.
> >> >
> >> > It is with no small amount of trepidation I depart.
> >> > I have worked a very long time.
> >> >
> >> > Ah well, that's life isn't it?
> >> > Constant change.
> >> >
> >> > Now to find a whole lot of volunteer work.
> >>
> >> Congratulations, Conway!
> >> Now you can leave them Flatlands and come back home...
> >> But there is work to be done up here!
> >> There is fishing and hunting. And it's a little late for the winter
> >garden
> >> but Spring is coming! And don't forget...Someone has to read the Signs
to
> >> figure out what the weather is gonna do.
> >> Then there is tourist counting. VERY important to keep track of the
number
> >of
> >> tourists. They might try to sneak one by us.
> >> Horizon watching. I'm not sure exactly why, but it's a regular pastime.
> >You
> >> have to develop that "far away" gaze to be effective though...
> >> Oh, and practice your "You aint from around heah, are ya?"
pronouncation.
> >> It's expected.
> >> Don't forget "Hillwalking". While disparaged in some countries, it is a
> >> necessity here. Not much choice. If you are going from "here" to "over
> >> yonder". Although, under my current circumstances, I would recommend
using
> >the
> >> foot log down by the crick to get there... Wet boots *are* something to
> >sneeze
> >> at!! ;-)
> >> VISITATIN'! I almost forgot visitatin'. You got to socialize. Although
> >that
> >> can be a bore at times. Although it does have it's compensations cause
you
> >> always have to take home someone's canned goods. Homemade jellies and
> >jams.
> >> 'Maters and beans and chowchow. Dried Apples and Leatherjackets. Yep.
> >> Visitatin' *can* be full filling.
> >
> >It do sound like home, Rick.
> >Never left a house after a visit without getting an arm load of canned
> >stuff.
> >And nowhere in the world is there a better chowchow to be found that in
our
> >mountains.
> >What would soup beans be without a tablespoon full of chowchow?
> >Won't be long afore the lakes turn and the Crappie start biting.
> >
> >Have you seen "Cold Mountain" yet?
> >An outstanding movie.
> >And whoever played that little mountain girl "heping out" Nicole Kidman
had
> >the mannerisms and accent down pat.
> >I recommend it.
>
> I saw it the other night. Matter of fact, I thought of you as I was
> watching it. Those were your Scotch-Irish ancestors. :-)
>
> I recommend it, too.
>
Someone did a whole lot of research on the flick, Mac.


Madra Dubh

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"Elaine Goldberg" <ElaineF...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Conway wrote:

<snip>

>Have you seen "Cold Mountain" yet?
>An outstanding movie.

I don't go to movies, but I've heard about this one.

>And whoever played that little mountain
> girl "heping out" Nicole Kidman had the
> mannerisms and accent down pat.
>I recommend it.

I've heard that Reneé Zellweger is one of the actresses. I really
liked her in the video I have of "Jerry Maguire".

Then let me suggest you rent it at Blockbusters.
It is a very good movie
Reneé Zellweger played the part of the mountain girl come to hep.


Madra Dubh

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"Bryn Fraser" <br...@finhall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message
> <GcFJb.590279$0v4.23...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Madra
> Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> writes
> >
> >"Bryn Fraser" <br...@finhall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:42c93OBINo9$Ew...@finhall.demon.co.uk...
> >> In message
> >> <MCqJb.585817$0v4.23...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Madra
> >> Dubh <cca...@worldnet.att.net> writes
> >> >
> >> >"Josiah Jenkins" <scs-in...@pap.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:6j4bvvgsq0l8n2n9b...@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:41:19 GMT, I read these words from Scot
> >> >> Kortegaard <s.kort...@shaw.ca> :
> >> >> >Madra Dubh wrote:
> >> >> <snipped>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That's the key, Ann, from everything I've heard, finding plenty
to
> >do.
> >> >> >> According to the experts, there are some weird psychological
effects
> >> >taking
> >> >> >> place when a man quits work.
> >> >> >> Apparently a great deal of his self esteem is tied up in his
work,
> >no
> >> >matter
> >> >> >> how roundly he may damn his job.
> >> >> >> We'll soon see, I guess.
> >> >> >> Any of you auld gits what has retied got any words of wisdom
along
> >> >these
> >> >> >> lines?
> >> >> >> And you wives of retired men, how have you managed to cope with
> >having
> >> >the
> >> >> >> old fossil under foot all the time?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >I knew a fella once that up and died soon after he retired. He was
> >> >> >known to be one of the hardest and most dedicated workers there.
> >> >> >He was seen coming around to the place he used to work well after
he
> >> >retired,
> >> >> >and spent a fair bit of time there. In short, he missed his work.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bad sign !!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >He was also known not to have any hobbies or many interests outside
of
> >> >work.
> >> >>
> >> >> That's the clincher ! Something, or several things, (which you
enjoy)
> >> >> to occupy your time. Preferably at least one of them which makes you
> >> >> use your brain, genealogy in my case.

> >> >>
> >> >> Buy yourself a Harley, Madra !!
> >> >
> >> >Right now I'm more interested in this "Syrup Of Figs".
> >>
> >> Surely you have heard of the virtues of "Californian Syrup of Figs"...
> >> Up there with Croton Oil in the hierarchy of efficacious liquids for
the
> >> over forties...

> >> >Is that some sort of Scottish youth restorer?
> >>
> >> The catch is, it only works short term...
> >> >Or what?
> >> >(I rode a Harley once. Almost killed my fool self)

> >> >
> >
> >Is this some sort of prune substitute?
>
> That's it...
> >I found that Metamucil gets the job done on a regular basis.
> >("Regular", get it?)
>
> Metamucil... Good stuff... Hard to get on the NHS...

They make much cheaper brands that contain the exact same ingredient
(psyllium).
We buy "Equate" at half the price, even less at Wal-Mart.


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