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SaveRPN

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Jan 31, 2003, 11:27:02 PM1/31/03
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I found this fantastic 15C simulator for PocketPC:
http://www.lygea.com/pocket15cdetail.htm
Works just like a real calc, only better - bigger matrices, more program
steps, view whole stack and all registers at once, cut and paste, etc.
Graphic of calc is beautiful. The author has done a brilliant job. It's not
free like Emu48, but it doesn't cost much and is perfect if you just want
something simple, yet powerful, like the good ole 15C. I think we should
support quality work like this that keeps RPN and the old HP way alive.

Raymond Del Tondo

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Feb 1, 2003, 8:20:09 AM2/1/03
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Looks good.

However, at least my Jornada 690 has a nice
RPN calculator simulation built-in,
which also has the faceplate look of a Vojager series model.
It's called OmniSolve, and it's included with the machine.

Raymond

BTW: I hate pseudonyms in newsgroups and forums,
and it's just bad style;-)


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SaveRPN

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Feb 2, 2003, 1:27:37 AM2/2/03
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OmniSolve is a nice business calc which can do RPN. It has a few scientific
functions and unit conversions, but it really doesn't compare to a 15C. It's
not programmable, has only one storage register, no matrices or complex
numbers, and so on. I merely hoped to share a good find with the 15C fans in
the group. My thoughts about this software are genuine, and I have no
connection with the author of this software. I do hope this software sells
well because it helps keep RPN and HP calcs alive, when the best HP can do
lately isn't much better than a $10 Casio.

BTW: My right to privacy and anonymity when posting a simple observation in
a public forum has nothing to do with style. I happen to dislike emoticons,
but I don't go out of my way to insult those who use them ;-)

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Raymond Del Tondo

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Feb 2, 2003, 9:08:31 AM2/2/03
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> BTW: My right to privacy and anonymity
> when posting a simple observation in
> a public forum has nothing to do with style.
>
Sorry, I can't agree here.
In most serious forums pseudonyms are a no-no.

Of course you can do what you like,
and the world will continue to turn w/o your real name.

I for myself will think it over to even answer to no-names/pseudo-names...
(no emoticons here due to obvious reasons)

Have a good day

Raymond


Raymond Del Tondo

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Feb 3, 2003, 12:33:18 PM2/3/03
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<nos...@optusnet.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> So, I guess you won't respond to this, then? Okay, I'll change my name
> to "David Jones". Would that make you feel better? I take it that you
> assume that anyone with a normal looking name and email address is
> really that person and not a pseudonym? Or do you send a test email in
> each case to be sure?
>
This is the point where in real life,
I would take you to the side and ask you
about the obvious problem you seem to have.

In virtual life, I'd reply via email,
which is impossible in your case,
and doesn't seem to even make sense.


> How do we know you're who your headers suggest?
> Perhaps you should attach a passport picture to prove it?
>
You must be a real newbee here...

I have no will to take this 'discussion' any further.


Maybe some day, you'll get the point,
and let be this childish nonsense.


Raymond


Raymond Del Tondo

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Feb 3, 2003, 5:38:10 PM2/3/03
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<nos...@optusnet.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Raymond Del Tondo <Raymond....@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> > You must be a real newbee here...
>
> Ummm...do you know who Dave Arnett is? No, I didn't think so, you
> must be a real newbie around here....

>
> > I have no will to take this 'discussion' any further.
>
> :) Great. Now be a good little net.cop and go police elsewhere.
>

As I said: You're acting like a child.

If you were frequently participating or even reading this ng,
you would know more about me.
Since you don't, it would be wise to check your archives before posting such
unqualified stuff.


Raymond


Raymond Del Tondo

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Feb 3, 2003, 5:50:42 PM2/3/03
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A small hint: Query hpcalc.org and hpmuseum.org, c.s.48 or Google by
'Raymond Hellstern'


Raymond Del Tondo

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Feb 4, 2003, 1:18:41 AM2/4/03
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<nos...@optusnet.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Raymond Del Tondo <Raymond....@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> > As I said: You're acting like a child.
>
> :) Oh, I'm hurt. Such cutting comments. Please don't upset me with
> your barbarous barbs!

>
> > If you were frequently participating or even reading this ng,
> > you would know more about me.
> > Since you don't, it would be wise to check your archives before posting
such
> > unqualified stuff.
>
> I've haven't really noticed you, to be honest. Hmmm, maybe it's because
your
> posts are boring? You sound a bit up tight. People I do notice are JKH,
JYH,
> VPN etc. But this is the first post I've noticed of yours. No doubt you've
> posted before, but, not that I've noticed. :)
>
>
I don't care about such comments too much.

There were always bigmouths like you trying to
catch attention, but they usually don't have the guts
to stand to their words.
It's easy to shout senseless things while staying anonymous,
like you.

From your words it can be seen that you don't even
have any interest contributing meaningful things here.
You just want to try to upset other people for fun.

But this kind of unqualified comments like yours is one of various
reasons why most of the old HP fans and contributors left this newsgroup.

So please don't waste my time with your noise.

Raymond


Raymond Del Tondo

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Feb 4, 2003, 12:58:00 AM2/4/03
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<nos...@optusnet.com.au> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Raymond Del Tondo <Raymond....@t-online.de> wrote:
> > A small hint: Query hpcalc.org and hpmuseum.org, c.s.48 or Google by
> > 'Raymond Hellstern'
>
> This was pour moi? You should learn to attribute.
> Really, I do believe you. Your self importance precedes you. :)
>
So now we come to *your* valuable contributions...


Wolfgang Rautenberg

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Feb 4, 2003, 3:55:46 AM2/4/03
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Raymond Del Tondo wrote:
> But this kind of unqualified comments like yours is one of
> various reasons why most of the old HP fans and contributors
> left this newsgroup.

Yes, I confirm this, I know it from at least two of them.

The level of this NG declined gradually. It is not because
people who have really contributed to the 48/49 are called
gurus, but check out how this bigmouth Nick interprets it.
He is exactly of the same quality than the Nobody who
attacked Raymond. If it is true that he didn't read
Urroz's books then the worse!

Working on the same field (in this case simply commenting
the basic properties of the 49 to newbees) without at least quoting the
predecessors, is considered as the most dirty buisness in
software-engineering, even if payed only by
chocolate. There is no excuse in this case that one hasn't read it.
Whether commercial or not, it exist, and this is known to everybody in
this NG.

- Wolfgang

Jordi Hidalgo

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Feb 4, 2003, 2:08:32 PM2/4/03
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Raymond wrote:

> In most serious forums pseudonyms are a no-no. [...]


> I for myself will think it over to even answer to no-names/pseudo-names...

I agree with you but, in my opinion, there are a few cases where using a
pseudonym is justified and appropriate. Minors: I think they should not use
their real name on Internet, so as to keep them away from psychos and also
because all the nonsense they might say now should not mark them for life.
Celebrities: Can you imagine Kubrick or Hawking posting to this newsgroup
with their real names? They would just want an answer to a specific question,
not a thread on their life and work!

Regards,

Jordi Hidalgo
HPCC #1046

Bhuvanesh

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Feb 4, 2003, 3:41:13 PM2/4/03
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Wolfgang Rautenberg <ra...@math.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

> Raymond Del Tondo wrote:
> > But this kind of unqualified comments like yours is one of
> > various reasons why most of the old HP fans and contributors
> > left this newsgroup.
>
> Yes, I confirm this, I know it from at least two of them.

I can confirm this too. People started to leave when they justifiably
criticized the HP49G when it was released and were personally flamed
for it.

> The level of this NG declined gradually. It is not because
> people who have really contributed to the 48/49 are called
> gurus, but check out how this bigmouth Nick interprets it.
> He is exactly of the same quality than the Nobody who
> attacked Raymond. If it is true that he didn't read
> Urroz's books then the worse!
>
> Working on the same field (in this case simply commenting
> the basic properties of the 49 to newbees) without at least quoting the
> predecessors, is considered as the most dirty buisness in
> software-engineering, even if payed only by
> chocolate. There is no excuse in this case that one hasn't read it.
> Whether commercial or not, it exist, and this is known to everybody in
> this NG.

Quoting the predecessors? Are you referring to the HP48x manuals?

--
Bhuvanesh

Jan Lukasiewicz

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Feb 4, 2003, 8:12:02 PM2/4/03
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Enough already, point taken! Now, does anyone have any comments about the
15C simulator for PocketPC?

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Michael F. Coyle

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Feb 4, 2003, 11:41:34 PM2/4/03
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I don't know where Stanley Kubrick is now, but I doubt he has Internet
access from there.

- Michael

--
Remove "No Spam Please" from return address.


Zaphod

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Feb 5, 2003, 2:05:46 AM2/5/03
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"Jan Lukasiewicz" <n...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Enough already, point taken! Now, does anyone have any comments about the
> 15C simulator for PocketPC?
>

Looks nice... real nice. I need to find a maunal though :) I've only used
my 48 before.

I've installed the demo on my iPaq 3850. Works fine and I love the rotated
display. Now I just need to decide if it's worth the price to keep it on a
non-personal (ie, work bought it) device.

Dale.


Jan Lukasiewicz

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Feb 5, 2003, 7:29:40 PM2/5/03
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You may not need a manual. The online help is actually very good. Just pick
Help from the start menu while you have the program running. It explains
every function.

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Zaphod

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Feb 5, 2003, 9:00:55 PM2/5/03
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<nos...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> I'm sorry, you've posted under a pseudonym, so therefore your opinion
carries
> no weight at all. You must supply your real name and email address before
> you post to this group. Also, you must inform as if, and when those
details
> change in the future.
>
> Thank-you! ;)
>

Just my luck... my retinal scanner's broken.

Murray

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Feb 6, 2003, 4:51:01 AM2/6/03
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Dale,
Check out:
http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/pc/emulators/emu48ce.exe
and then add
http://www.hpcalc.org/hp49/pc/emulators/emu-ppc48-49.zip

The HP48/49 diplay has been rotated and the LCD set to size 2. This gives
an LCD almost identical to a full size HP48. I think you'll be pleasently
surprised.

Cheers,
Murray.


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Zaphod

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Feb 6, 2003, 8:25:32 PM2/6/03
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"Murray" <mur...@eisa.net.au> wrote in message
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> Dale,
> Check out:
> http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/pc/emulators/emu48ce.exe
> and then add
> http://www.hpcalc.org/hp49/pc/emulators/emu-ppc48-49.zip
>
> The HP48/49 diplay has been rotated and the LCD set to size 2. This gives
> an LCD almost identical to a full size HP48. I think you'll be pleasently
> surprised.
>

Thanks, I'd given up on that app since it locks up my iPaq. Having been
redirected back to hpcalc.org I see there is a work around. I will try it
tonight. Thanks!

Dale.


Murray

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Feb 7, 2003, 3:34:27 AM2/7/03
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"Zaphod" <nos...@home.com> wrote in message
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There is a problem when EMU48 is run for the very first time. After
selecting the KML there is no <OK> button to press. One has to bring up the
virtual keyboard and press <enter>. The emulator will then load. Was this
your problem? If not can you let me know how you fixed your lock up.

Cheers,
Murray.


Zaphod

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Feb 8, 2003, 1:22:01 AM2/8/03
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"Murray" <mur...@eisa.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> There is a problem when EMU48 is run for the very first time. After
> selecting the KML there is no <OK> button to press. One has to bring up
the
> virtual keyboard and press <enter>. The emulator will then load. Was
this
> your problem? If not can you let me know how you fixed your lock up.
>


Hi Murray,

I was going to try the tips here:

http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=3666

but you're keyboad recommendation worked fine. Thanks.

Now that the emulator is running I find it the LCD display to refresh
slowly. Also sometimes the emulator seems to grab 100% of the CPU time when
I exit it.

Hmmm...

Dale.


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