Suge Vs Puffy
Kyu H Lee
I just caught part of an MTV news report on the Source awards and they
played a clip where Suge Knight in accepting some award for Death Row
made a straight out dis on Puffy Combs. It had something to do with
how he doesn't appear in videos mugging shots for himself. Puffy
retaliated back during the show, I think by saying that he wasn't having
none of that and trying to keep things positive. It ended up with Snoop
Dog trying to mend everything by giving Puffy a hug when he went to
accept an award, well that's what I could make of it. Anyone knows if
Suge has some beef with Puffy? The whole thing seemed odd, Suge dissing
Puffy in all. I think Suge knows that the West Coast has fallin off and
the East Coast is coming back strong. It seemed like a desperate act
from Suge to fuel the East vs West battle to regain some lost ground.
If it is about East Vs West, I hope they keep it on the wax and not on
the street.
Kyu
PixieGuy
Lee) wrote:
> I just caught part of an MTV news report on the Source awards and they
> played a clip where Suge Knight in accepting some award for Death Row
> made a straight out dis on Puffy Combs.
Can you say HYPE?
Listen, I glisten like sun on water while fishin.
櫚蛻
-Justin @=)
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jAY-aRE
> Puffy in all. I think Suge knows that the West Coast has fallin off and
> the East Coast is coming back strong. It seemed like a desperate act
> from Suge to fuel the East vs West battle to regain some lost ground.
> If it is about East Vs West, I hope they keep it on the wax and not on
> the street.
>
> Kyu
Expaine how the West is falling out? For 95/96 we got albums
comming out from lesse...
Ras Kass (will KILL any other album, Ras rules nuff said!)
Mad Kapp (they simply kick ass!)
Souls of Mischief (93 Till Infinity nuff said)
Aggorant (I feel bad for anyone who hasn't witnesed his kid!)
Xzibit (check his shit on King T'e Ghetto Free Style)
Mystik JoreunyMen (you will be hearing from these kids trust me!)
Various Members of the FreeStyle Fellowship (nuff props)
Erule (he may have gotten dropped from his lable, but he'll be back)
Quniton (the ep was TIGHT!)
Dogg Pound (Kurropt is the fucken man!)
Rage
RBX (the new single is prettyy tight actually)
Mista Grimm
Barber Shop (don't let the name fool ya, my man SK is wicked!)
Pharcyde (Bizzard Ride was probably the best LP ever)
Ahmad (this time he'll be more like his verse on Cum Widd It!)
And peeped the recently released shit
Funk Doobiest (fuck the source, this LP is TIGHT!)
King T (not new, but tight as fuck!)
The Liks (ok, even older but TIGHT!)
Damn it's madd late and I can't think straight, but anyways I
have NO IDEA where you gettin the West is fallin off. You can't
possaible tell me that fucks like Biggie and shit got any skills. East
is phat as hell, but DON'T overlook the West, 96 we will totally wreck
shit, with MADD PHAT lyristics (Ras Kass nuff said!) We commin up actually
watch the fuck out!
Everett B Perry
East coast rap is much more inticate in term of lyrics/music. We just
don't support the artists.
The West supports theirs which is good in my opinion. It's just that i
would never compare the two, apples and oranges. Lyrically where they
are now, we were 6 years ago. The whole Jerri Curl thing that they were
wearing abotu 2 years ago, we were done with 10 years ago. Now
baldies/afros have finally made it to the west and the lyrics are
improving (ie. "I got five on it").
I do think one day things will catch up.
aaron stigberg
west is currently tearing the east a new anus when it comes to ORIGINAL S***.
--
aaron
aaron stigberg
Everett B Perry <epe...@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote:
>The west is not falling off in term of sales.
>
>East coast rap is much more inticate in term of lyrics/music. We just
>don't support the artists.
No it's not. In general, the east is a bunch of Wu/Bootcamp/IllAl/insert gun
and jewels group here clones.
>would never compare the two, apples and oranges. Lyrically where they
>are now, we were 6 years ago. The whole Jerri Curl thing that they were
no. They are ahead, I'm sorry. We're not talking about "gangsta" however, but
the New School coming out the Bay and LA.
>wearing abotu 2 years ago, we were done with 10 years ago. Now
>baldies/afros have finally made it to the west and the lyrics are
>improving (ie. "I got five on it").
yeah whatever, if that represents improvement then rap is doomed.
--
aaron
jAY-aRE
On Tue, 15 Aug 1995, Everett B Perry wrote:
> The west is not falling off in term of sales.
>
> East coast rap is much more inticate in term of lyrics/music. We just
> don't support the artists.
>
> The West supports theirs which is good in my opinion. It's just that i
> would never compare the two, apples and oranges. Lyrically where they
> are now, we were 6 years ago. The whole Jerri Curl thing that they were
> wearing abotu 2 years ago, we were done with 10 years ago. Now
> baldies/afros have finally made it to the west and the lyrics are
> improving (ie. "I got five on it").
>
> I do think one day things will catch up.
WHAT lyrically where AHEAD. Peep Saafir, Del, RasKass, Madd One,
Born Allah, Xzibit, Arrogant, J-oe, E-Vocolist and tell me out here in
The West we're where you were 6 years ago...GIMME A FUCKEN BREAK!
Steve Wei
indeed. the first poster was buggin. although an east coast head and proud
of it, the west coast has almost all of the finest lyricists -- all of heiro,
saafir, rass kass, freestyle fellowship, e-rule, etc. from the east, only a
few like nas, common, o.c., can hang with those heads.
from a beats standpoint, I think the east is way above the west, but that's
just personal preference.
peace.
styles, mb
David White
>On Tue, 15 Aug 1995, Everett B Perry wrote:
>> The west is not falling off in term of sales.
>>
>> East coast rap is much more inticate in term of lyrics/music. We just
>> don't support the artists.
>>
>> The West supports theirs which is good in my opinion. It's just that i
>> would never compare the two, apples and oranges. Lyrically where they
>> are now, we were 6 years ago. The whole Jerri Curl thing that they were
>> wearing abotu 2 years ago, we were done with 10 years ago. Now
>> baldies/afros have finally made it to the west and the lyrics are
>> improving (ie. "I got five on it").
>>
>> I do think one day things will catch up.
> WHAT lyrically where AHEAD. Peep Saafir, Del, RasKass, Madd One,
>Born Allah, Xzibit, Arrogant, J-oe, E-Vocolist and tell me out here in
>The West we're where you were 6 years ago...GIMME A FUCKEN BREAK!
I hate to get into all of these East vs. West arguments, but I had to
jump into this one. Here it goes: Rakim, KRS-ONE, Redman, Buckshot,
Smif and Wesson, Jeru, Master Ace, Kool G. Rap, Q-Tip, Treach,
MadSkillz, The GZA, The Roots, Lord Finesse, etc.
Lyrically, they can't be touched.
--
The Upstart
"It seemed like a good idea at the time."
kevin rex inc.
lee...@mulder.msu.edu writes:
>beef with Puffy? The whole thing seemed odd, Suge dissing
>Puffy in all. I think Suge knows that the West Coast has fallin off and
>the East Coast is coming back strong. It seemed like a desperate act
>from Suge to fuel the East vs West battle to regain some lost ground.
>If it is about East Vs West, I hope they keep it on the wax and not on
>the street.
i thought it was strange that suge would diss the bad boy camp,
considering big did
that song real niggaz over all of dre's beats. if i hadn't seen the
awards, i would have expected to here big on the new dogg pound album.
But were they to battle, freestyle or writtens i have to give the props
to the dogg pound. And as far as this east coast west coast thing goes,
i'ma say this. I live in Texas, and every city has a crew of so
called gangsta rap and then there is the so called hip hop crowd, i guess
traditional would be a better word. san antonio has the mad one and also
PKO. Houston has the whole geto boys crew and imitators, but we also
have groups like k-otix, and the maad house and at least 10 other groups.
Every city in texas i guess is stuck between the
so called east and west battle, but unlike LA or San Fran, the two do not
coexist peace fully. Houston the home of the playa hater.
kari orr
house of phat beats
Trisha Tavares
I am a young brother who was born in Jersey, went to school at Drexel in
Philly and Delaware State. I don't know everything about hip-hop but I
ain't no slacker. Who are these West Coast rappers y'all are arguing
about. I have never even seen there names anywhere. Please give me some
info.
jAY-aRE
> jump into this one. Here it goes: Rakim, KRS-ONE, Redman, Buckshot,
> Smif and Wesson, Jeru, Master Ace, Kool G. Rap, Q-Tip, Treach,
> MadSkillz, The GZA, The Roots, Lord Finesse, etc.
>
> Lyrically, they can't be touched.
>
>
>
>
> --
> The Upstart
> "It seemed like a good idea at the time."
This ain't a west vs. east thing but I got one word "Heiroglyphics"
no crew from ANY COAST can fuck with them on any level, they are by far
the dopest crew of emcees of ALL TIMES. You listed alot of dope ass emcees
and it's almost true that "lyrically they canot be touched" but I think
RasKass will tear all of them a new asshole :)
Brian D. Adams
otil...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu says...
I think this is mainly due to the similarities in climate, environment.
Texas, like Cali has a lot of sunshine which lends itself to W coast
gear (T shits & Khakis, Chuck T. tennis etc..).
This may change soon however as the E. coast starts to exert more of it's
influence over the hip hop community.
BlakJack
up out of San Anton'
kari orr
Suge Knight is the ceo(?) of death row records. Sean "puffy" combs is the
executive producer(?) of bad boy entertainment. needless to say neither
rhymes currently, althougy puff daddy used to rhyme,( super cat's don
dada is the only example i can think of). And if your looking for their
names check the album credits. anyway there is beef between the biggie
smalls group, and the dogg pound. While we are on biggie, what is this
controversial interview where he disses krs one and craig mack? Was it
strictly a houston thing or does the interview appear any where else?
ANubianBro
Even though East Coast only represents about 35% of the sales of Rap
albums, we put out about 65% of the phattest tracks. Suge made a good
point though about Puffy. It's ah-ight to show up every now and then in
his artist's videos and on their tracks but on everyone? Common. Shit.
bump that. What is Puffy trying to prove. I'd probably have more respect
for what he puts out if he wasn't always mugging for some shit. But like
I said, Puffy is talented but sometimes he takes shit toooooo fuckin
far...
peace.
G. Smith
Fa real!! What the phukk is up with that. I used to find it just annoying
but once I saw that Total video....Someone has to stop this man.
--
G. Smith # From alligator belts to patty melts
ck...@Freenet.Carleton.CA # I be that smoothest nigga....
Ottawa,Ontario,Canada # Benz or Bemmer,
Global Clothing Co. # Big Boi (Outkast)
ILLKIDD
RHYMES-NO FLOW) WITH STYLES OF EAST COAST HIP-HOP. FUCK ALL THAT E-40
SHIT! THE EAST GOT ALL THE PHATTEST LYRACISTS:DAS, RAKIM, BLACK THOUGHT,
GURU, NAS, JERU, BIGGIE, AKINYELE, X-TRA P, MADSKILLZ, RAEKWON, GENIOUS,
Q-TIP, MASTA ACE, MOBB DEEP, CRAIG G, SUNZ OF MAN, ORGANIZED, SMIFF &
WESSUN, BLACK MOON, HELTER SKELTER, OGC, AND THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME
-------KRS-ONE!!! TOO MUCH FLAVOR OVER HERE! THE WEST GOT SOME
TALENT(SOULS AND THE SHAMEN) BUT THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO THE BIG
EAST!!!!
ONELOVE,
DA ILLKIDD
John Harris
Man, it's about time that I saw something inspiring on this group. I'm
not one to fan the East/West flames, because I respcet artists on both
coasts. But the east easily has a more unique style. I've been trying
to argue this point with so many peoples but they refuse to see the light.
East concentrates on the verbals, West works more on the music. You
don't have to be an encyclopeda of wisdom on the mic, but do something
original and don't misrepresent yourself as something you're not. Even
if you're a wack-ass MC I'll respect you if you're doing it from the
heart, for the love of the music. Thanx to the IllKidd for sparkin' some
of my ideas..
***MarblesIII*** GEL...@prodigy.com
"There's only One capable, breaks the unbreakable
Melodies unmakable, patterns unescapable"
-ERIC B. & RAKIM, "Lyrics of Fury"
Richard Payton
>
> ANubianBro (anubi...@aol.com) writes:
> > (deleted)
> > Suge made a good
> > point though about Puffy. It's ah-ight to show up every now and then in
> > his artist's videos and on their tracks but on everyone? Common. Shit.
> > bump that. What is Puffy trying to prove. I'd probably have more respect
> > for what he puts out if he wasn't always mugging for some shit. But like
> > I said, Puffy is talented but sometimes he takes shit toooooo fuckin
> > far...
> >
> > peace.
>
> Fa real!! What the phukk is up with that. I used to find it just annoying
> but once I saw that Total video....Someone has to stop this man.
>
>
> --
> G. Smith # From alligator belts to patty melts
> ck...@Freenet.Carleton.CA # I be that smoothest nigga....
> Ottawa,Ontario,Canada # Benz or Bemmer,
> Global Clothing Co. # Big Boi (Outkast)
If you got turned off by Puffy being in Total's video, you'll get
even sicker if you go see 'The Show'. Puff is up on stage with
Biggie rappin' almost as much as Biggie. He's not just the
'hype man' on stage goin' Yea Yea, he's rappin' whole verses.
I guess he wants to be recognized on the streets like his acts. Or
maybe he's a frustrated artist who could not make it as a performer,
so he got in on the company side of things and now he's using
that to try to become an artist again.
I just wanna know who's runnin' his company while he's out in
all his artists videos and in the studio appearing on the their
records.
Peace,
Rich