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Erich VonTavischen <>

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May 16, 2003, 3:03:03 PM5/16/03
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"Re: Arthur J. Tandy Doesn't Want People to Know Where He Lives BUT HE Tips
Off People to Where I live!! R_0514"

On Fri, 16 May 2003 11:54:43 -0500, <3EC517D4...@uiuc.edu> "Chas. 'Mark'
Bee" <c-b...@uiuc.edu> wrote:

>Reginald Higham Cornelius McTavish wrote:
>>
>> On 16 May 2003 15:12:02 GMT, <catamont-57F34E...@news.spellbndr.com>
>> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Its a jew. It thinks its God's chosen person. Just this one time I
>> >> >disagree with God,
:
>> >> The thing is-- God no longer views the Jew as being the chosen!
:
>> >And of course, Mr. Bradbury knows this because God told him so.
:
>> I assume that you still believe that YOU and your fellow Jews are still the
>> Chosen right? Is this why you always want two standards-- one for yourselves and
>> another standard for the rest of humanity? Is this why you think you can treat
>> Non-Jews as sub-humans and when they retaliate in kind then they are
>> "anti-Semitic"? Is this why it is okay for Jews to "bear false witness" against
>> non-Jews and it not be a thing of conscience in your mind?

You deleted what was posted Chas.'Mark' Bee and it will be restored below for
the sake of comparison. You cut out my essential scriptural proofs and then you
quote out of context against me one of Jesus' admonitions concerning conflicts
between "brothers."

> Eye, mote, beam.

Jesus said that concerning the relations and conflicts between "brothers" or his
believers and Jews are NOT the disciples or "brothers" of Jesus-- they
vehemently denounce Jesus like the anti-Christs they are and they choose to be!

Here is what you are trying to evoke in actual context:

Luke 6:41,42 :: King James Version (KJV)
41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote
that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine
own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

The above applies to conflicts between "brothers" or Jesus' followers! Jews do
not view non-Jews as brothers-- rather we are referred to as foreigners or
Gentiles by them and they do NOT view their relationship to us as we being their
equals much less "brothers" as proven here:

Deuteronomy 15:2,3 :: New International Version (NIV)
2 This is how it is to be done: Every creditor shall cancel the loan he has made
to his fellow Israelite. He shall not require payment from his fellow Israelite
or brother, because the LORD's time for canceling debts has been proclaimed.
3 You may require payment from a foreigner, but you must cancel any debt your
brother owes you.

FOREIGNER=GENTILE

Here are Jews proving FOREIGNER=GENTILE=NON-JEW=HEATHEN:

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:HLx2iy_HSsQC:www.torahcc.org/mishna/5762/21-10-01/shabbat.htm+non-Jew+foreigner&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Archived locally as: 21-10-01_shabbat

But one may accept an ironclad investment from heathens - since it is permitted
to loan to a non-Jew for interest, as the mishnah goes on to teach. The
commentators explain that the first part of this mishnah ("One may not accept an
ironclad investment from an Israelite") is superfluous, and appears only in
order to teach the last part of the mishnah law ('but one may accept an ironclad
investment from heathens") (Rashi, Hameiri, Bartenura, Tiferet Yisrael).

Furthermore, one may borrow from them - non-Jews - and loan to them with
interest - Rambam bases this law on the verse "You shall not lend upon interest
to your brother" (Deut. 23:20), implying that it is forbidden to lend upon
interest to your brother, but permitted to lend upon interest to the rest of the
world. According to tradition, it is a positive commandment to loan upon
interest to the non-Jew, in accordance with the verse, "To a foreigner you shall
lend upon interest" (Deut. 23:21); this is the Torah law (Hil. Malveh u-Loveh
5:1; see there Hasagat Ravad).

<END>

This material should really prove how Jews always want a legal advantage over
the Non-Jew:

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=720&letter=C
(Archived locally as: CONFLICT_OF_LAWS)
Jewishencyclopedia.com
CONFLICT OF LAWS:
By : Executive Committee of the Editorial Board. Julius H. Greenstone

In civil cases the following rules were established by the Rabbis.

1.

In suits between two Israelites the law of the place where the contract was made
governs, or, if the place is not mentioned in the contract, the law of the place
where the case is tried rules (B. M. 83a; Ket. 110b; "Yad," Ishut, xxiii. 12;
?oshen Mishpa?, 42, 14, 15; Eben ha-'Ezer, 117, 19, Isserles' gloss).

2.

In suits between non-Jews the law of the land or the Jewish law—to whichever the
parties submit themselves—governs ("Yad," Melakim, x. 12).

3.

In matters between a Jew and a non-Jew the suit is decided according to the law
of the land or according to the Jewish law, that system being chosen which
favors the Jew... <END>

Does the above need any explanation!?!?

Here are excerpts from a previous post of mine:

1: Interview with the Lubavitcher Rebbe
Torah the answers to their struggles and concerns. Throughout his years
of leadership, beginning in 1950, the Rebbe, in his inimitable style, applied
the depths of Torah scholarship to virtually every area of life.... (18K)

Excerpt: " This afternoon we heard a lecture by Dr. Block in which he explained
that a Jew has a Divine spark. He didn't say explicitly, but he intimated that
only a Jew has this Divine spark but a non-Jew does not...

--------

And those who repose in the dust will arise and sing." Sichos In English
22 Shvat, 5755 THREE INTERPRETATIONS THREE CATEGORIES OF MITZVOS
On the verse: [1] "These are the judgments which you shall place before
them,"... (27K)

Excerpt: " With regard to eidus, and surely with regard to chukim, there is no
need to forewarn against approaching non-Jewish judges, for it is plainly
obvious that non-Jewish judges do not share any connection to these matters.
Their rulings depend on human intellect, and they have no connection to subjects
which transcend human intellect."

--------

Tanya (Regular Year): 12 Mar Cheshvan
Vitebsk (or Horodok), who had settled in the Holy Land in 1777. It concludes by
rousing them to the mitzvah of tzedakah in general, and particularly of
maintaining the family of R. Mendel. The Alter Rebbe is here...

Excerpt: " [This alludes to the Chayah of the tzaddik, the soul-level which is
even loftier than the soul-level called Neshamah, and which infuses the
followers of the tzaddik with a transcendent mode of life-force which enables
them to withstand challenges from non-Jewish (i.e., unholy) sources."

--------

The Jewish Soul and the Non-Jewish Soul
Kabbalah teaches that every human soul possesses a full array of ten sefirot, or
spiritual powers. The first three spiritual powers are intellectual in nature
while the following seven are emotional in nature. In...

Excerpt: "The Jewish Soul and the Non-Jewish Soul The Jewish Soul and the
Non-Jewish Soul In the Jewish, Divine soul, the three powers of the intellect
are its primary motivating force. In the soul of the non-Jew, the seven emotive
powers are its primary motivating force. In the innate state of the non-Jewish
soul the three intellectual powers are subordinate, and serve the earthbound
desires of the seven emotive powers."

Xref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=amor2vchosv7k4d1vo5bgnof1s5ksev4t0%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Bigotry and Segregation in the Name of Religion....
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:13:41 -0600
Message-ID: <amor2vchosv7k4d1v...@4ax.com>

IOW to claim the Children of the Devil and anti-Christs are my "brothers"
especially when they view me in such a haughty manner is the pinnacle of
insults! You evidently have no sense how Jews really view you and the rest of
humanity!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That which was deleted by Chas.'Mark' Bee is now restored:

On 16 May 2003 15:12:02 GMT, <catamont-57F34E...@news.spellbndr.com>
Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:

>> >Its a jew. It thinks its God's chosen person. Just this one time I
>> >disagree with God,
:
>> The thing is-- God no longer views the Jew as being the chosen!
:
>And of course, Mr. Bradbury knows this because God told him so.

I assume that you still believe that YOU and your fellow Jews are still the
Chosen right? Is this why you always want two standards-- one for yourselves and
another standard for the rest of humanity? Is this why you think you can treat
Non-Jews as sub-humans and when they retaliate in kind then they are
"anti-Semitic"? Is this why it is okay for Jews to "bear false witness" against
non-Jews and it not be a thing of conscience in your mind?

Deuteronomy 19:16-19 :: New International Version (NIV)
16 If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse a man of a crime,
17 the two men involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the LORD
before the priests and the judges who are in office at the time.
18 The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to
be a liar, giving false testimony against his brother,
19 then do to him as he intended to do to his brother. You must purge the evil
from among you.

Deuteronomy 19:16-19 :: King James Version (KJV)
16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that
which is wrong;
17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the
LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness
be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother:
so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

Special Note: Pharisees (Jews) do not view non-Jews as their "brothers" or
equals and these scriptures prove so:

Deuteronomy 15:2,3 :: New International Version (NIV)
2 This is how it is to be done: Every creditor shall cancel the loan he has made
to his fellow Israelite. He shall not require payment from his fellow Israelite
or brother, because the LORD's time for canceling debts has been proclaimed.
3 You may require payment from a foreigner, but you must cancel any debt your
brother owes you.

FOREIGNER=GENTILE

You and your fellow Children of the Devil don't like me and that is because I
see you all for what you are and I try to get other people to drop their
blinders and see you devils for what you are too! Christendom is a Whore and it
blinds people concerning the Babylon it worships!

Babylon identified:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=rirhav4cad1rnbg7o...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
Message-ID: <rirhav4cad1rnbg7o...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

>Sara
Tavish

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ek19cv4ei9cf2nrvull7df5rgn2rhai54c%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Soviets (Communists) Were Jews as Proven by BOOLEAN Operands (Classic
Repost from 3-31-2000) Abridged Version R_0516
Message-ID: <ek19cv4ei9cf2nrvu...@4ax.com>
Date: 16 May 2003 06:36:09 GMT

Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=34c17d0f.1410012285%40news.smart1.net&rnum=7
Subject: Bolsheviks Scalped and Crucified Christians -
Date: 1998/01/18
Message-ID: <34c17d0f....@news.smart1.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=cqrhav0th39prr3bf5am4dnkcn89j52p8b%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) R_0425
Date: 25 Apr 2003 08:14:41 GMT
Message-ID: <cqrhav0th39prr3bf...@4ax.com>

Chas. 'Mark' Bee

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May 16, 2003, 4:52:53 PM5/16/03
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"Erich VonTavischen <" wrote:
>
> Former subject title (exact quoting):
> "Re: Arthur J. Tandy Doesn't Want People to Know Where He Lives BUT HE Tips
> Off People to Where I live!! R_0514"
>
> On Fri, 16 May 2003 11:54:43 -0500, <3EC517D4...@uiuc.edu> "Chas. 'Mark'
> Bee" <c-b...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> >Reginald Higham Cornelius McTavish wrote:
> >>
> >> On 16 May 2003 15:12:02 GMT, <catamont-57F34E...@news.spellbndr.com>
> >> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >Its a jew. It thinks its God's chosen person. Just this one time I
> >> >> >disagree with God,
> :
> >> >> The thing is-- God no longer views the Jew as being the chosen!
> :
> >> >And of course, Mr. Bradbury knows this because God told him so.
> :
> >> I assume that you still believe that YOU and your fellow Jews are still the
> >> Chosen right? Is this why you always want two standards-- one for yourselves and
> >> another standard for the rest of humanity? Is this why you think you can treat
> >> Non-Jews as sub-humans and when they retaliate in kind then they are
> >> "anti-Semitic"? Is this why it is okay for Jews to "bear false witness" against
> >> non-Jews and it not be a thing of conscience in your mind?
>
> You deleted what was posted Chas.'Mark' Bee and it will be restored below for
> the sake of comparison. You cut out my essential scriptural proofs and then you
> quote out of context against me one of Jesus' admonitions concerning conflicts
> between "brothers."

Your scriptural proofs are crap - you make up meanings for words that
you have no proof were meant that way. And snipping five pages of
endless claptrap of a reply is pretty common on Usenet.

Jerzy Ryszard Tavishinski

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On Fri, 16 May 2003 15:52:53 -0500, <3EC54FA5...@uiuc.edu> "Chas. 'Mark'
Bee" <c-b...@uiuc.edu> wrote:

> Your scriptural proofs are crap - you make up meanings for words that
>you have no proof were meant that way. And snipping five pages of
>endless claptrap of a reply is pretty common on Usenet.

You don't like being proved wrong do you?

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ek19cv4ei9cf2nrvull7df5rgn2rhai54c%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Soviets (Communists) Were Jews as Proven by BOOLEAN Operands (Classic
Repost from 3-31-2000) Abridged Version R_0516
Message-ID: <ek19cv4ei9cf2nrvu...@4ax.com>
Date: 16 May 2003 06:36:09 GMT

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Brian

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May 19, 2003, 12:43:07 PM5/19/03
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would you ignorant bigots be so kind as to not crosspost this crap in other groups?
We arent interested.
Keep it in your non thinking ---nationalism.white NGs.
Americans dont want to hear it.

FlyByNight

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May 19, 2003, 1:54:21 PM5/19/03
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In article <3EC9099B...@erols.com>,
Brian <olinsh...@erols.com> wrote:

> would you ignorant bigots be so kind as to not crosspost this crap in other
> groups?

Nope.

> We arent interested.

I am interested.

> Keep it in your non thinking ---nationalism.white NGs.
> Americans dont want to hear it.

It will be posted anywhere anyone wants it posted, idiot.

> > ad1rnbg7o89mm...@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en
> > Message-ID: <rirhav4cad1rnbg7o...@4ax.com>
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%4
> > 04ax.com&rnum=1

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