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Why Yale F. Edeiken LOST His Appeal aka Re: Sara Salzman's S&M Fantasies Were Transferred to me in Her False Statements to a Civil Court aka Re: Sara Salzman: BDSM and the Law

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:57:22 GMT, <dasu2uohekq06vme5...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

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>In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
>> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
>> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
>> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
>> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!
>
>> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.
>
>> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
>> character and I am not about to let up.
:
>In other words, you are fixated.

Fixated? How am I fixated on showing one and all the mindset of a pig who makes
a sworn statement accusing me of: "threats of violence, including threatening to
sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture Deponent to death, and
threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."" when her own writings show where
such fantasies come from.

Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever produced the
post which would substantiate their claim? Where is your sense of truth and
justice?

As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will keep posting
her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it then shove it. You seemed to
have no problem when Yale and Sara were parading Yale's concocted lawsuit
against me and were rubbing my nose in it.

I hope Yale places himself under the jurisdiction of the Texas Justice system!
Wendy will have a long way to travel for her visitation when Yale gets numerous
convictions for his numerous criminal acts against me.

Texas has very protective laws about subpoenaing medical records, falsifying
what they say, posting them for public view with the sole intention to cause the
recipient to be harassed. I could only hope Yale and Sara drink Jim Jones Kool
Aid. I am not giving up on having both of them answer for what they attempted to
do to me!

Also BTW I never announced why Yale F. Edeiken Esq. lost his appeal concerning
his failed lawsuit. Care to take a guess why the appeal was DISMISSED?

ANSWER: (Everyone should be able to obtain the document too seeing how it is
public record.) Yale lost his appeal for this reason:
(From the very document dated September 26, 2001 from David A. Szewczak -
Prothonotary) "AND NOW, this 26th day of September,2001,the withing=h appeal is
DISMISSED for failure to file a brief." Document Number 1714 EDA 2001

Care to speculate why Yale F. Edeiken was gung ho for me getting an attorney to
"fight his appeal" as well as all of his minions? I know why! The bastard wanted
me to spend more money on attorney's fees and seeing how he is his own attorney
and has no fees it is obvious that his goal was to bleed me even more!

I didn't fall for the trick as this post proves Yale mentioning attorney's fees
and how I chose to answer his "appeal":

<START>

Yale didn't file a brief (as I see) for only two reasons:
1) He just wanted me to sink more money into attorney's fees as he even stated
it would cost me $5000.00 or so to counter his appeal as proven here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=Uvie7.74%249d.11873%40newshog.newsread.com
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Snottie Bradshit, man without a lawyer
Message-ID: <Uvie7.74$9d.1...@newshog.newsread.com>
"Bradshit now claims that he refused to use Daylin because Leach asked
for $2,000.00 for the appeal. The average appeal in a personal injury
action required about 60-75 hours of work by an attorney. The going bottom
rate around here starts at about 5k. Either Bradshit is lying again or he
passed up an incredible bargain."

<END>

The above indicates Yale just wanted me to blow more money at $5000.00 worth to
fight a frivolous lawsuit based on manufactured evidence!

2) Yale may have chickened out if he reasoned on my attitude regarding his
appeal when I stated:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=qcgjnt09sfbv8kgqgiov5716bui5vnu6ad%404ax.com
Subject: Re: Snottie Bradshit, man without a lawyer
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:14 -0500
Message-ID: <qcgjnt09sfbv8kgqg...@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:41:36 -0700, <9lccth$20e$2...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
"PB" <patbl...@hotmaill.com> wrote:

>Yale F. Edeiken wrote in message ...
>
>> Bradshit now claims that he refused to use Daylin because Leach asked
>>for $2,000.00 for the appeal. The average appeal in a personal injury
>>action required about 60-75 hours of work by an attorney. The going bottom
>>rate around here starts at about 5k. Either Bradshit is lying again or he
>>passed up an incredible bargain.
:
>But this is not an appeal about a personal injury case in the classic sense,
>it is an appeal about jurisdiction. It would appear that your appeal has to
>do with more with Judge Reibman than it does with Tavish. If you would
>happen to be victorious, the judgment would be reinstated and sent back down
>to Reibman for further proceedings.

Either way I will win.

If he loses then he will finally shut up hopefully.
If he wins his appeal then it's back to square one and I will get to prove all
that he has done to me I.E. he was nazihunter in December 1999, he fabricated
evidence and the list is long. His appeal is based on whether my USENET postings
fall into Pennsylvania jurisdiction and that he claims the internet comes into
his residence via telephone lines, thus I am making telephone calls.

If he is stupid enough to push that argument then I have hundreds of obscene and
obnoxious telephone callas an officer of the court left on my answering machine
(e-mail) such as:

From: ya...@enter.net
To: <xx...@ix.netcom.com>, <doc_t...@my-deja.com>
Cc: <xx...@ix.netcom.com>, <doc_t...@my-deja.com>
Subject: Fw: DRUNKEN SOT ACCOSTS PEOPLE AT COUNTY COURT HOUSE
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:58:44 -0400
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200

Attention Defendant Bradshit

Hey you lying fuck, did you post this your gutless self or was it one
of your homosexual, lovers?

----- Original Message -----


> > From: lcs Mixmaster Remailer <m...@anon.lcs.mit.edu>
> > Subject: DRUNKEN SOT ACCOSTS PEOPLE AT COUNTY COURT HOUSE
> > Date: 11 Aug 2001 08:20:14 -0000
> > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > Message-ID: <200108110820...@nym.alias.net>
> >
> > Path: news!global-news-master!dc1.nntp.concentric.net!

<end>

I have received hundreds of these e-mails. I just got another notice from
EARTHLINK that my e-mail box has over run and why? Yale F. Edeiken!

Don't believe me?

NOTICE #1

To: xxx...@ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:07:47 PDT
From: EarthLink Mail Watch <Mail...@EarthLink.Net>
Subject: Important information about your email account

Dear EarthLink Subscriber,

Our records indicate that the storage space allocated to your EarthLink email
account is at or over its quota.

As you may already know, your EarthLink email account has a 10MB storage
limit. If you exceed the 10MB limit, your incoming email will be returned to
the sender with a note saying the message is undeliverable.

We never want you to miss any email messages, so when you exceed the 10MB
storage limit on your EarthLink email account, we send you an update on the
status of your mailbox. That way, you'll have a chance to clean out your
mailbox so the messages addressed to you won't get bounced back to your
family, friends, and coworkers....

NOTICE #2:

To: xxx...@ix.netcom.com
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:52:42 PDT
From: EarthLink Mail Watch <Mail...@EarthLink.Net>
Subject: Important information about your email account

Dear EarthLink Subscriber,

Our records indicate that the storage space allocated to your EarthLink email
account is at or over its quota.

As you may already know, your EarthLink email account has a 10MB storage
limit. If you exceed the 10MB limit, your incoming email will be returned to
the sender with a note saying the message is undeliverable.

We never want you to miss any email messages, so when you exceed the 10MB
storage limit on your EarthLink email account, we send you an update on the
status of your mailbox. That way, you'll have a chance to clean out your
mailbox so the messages addressed to you won't get bounced back to your
family, friends, and coworkers....

<end>

EARTHLINK will testify that I am being harassed by Yale and that he simply will
NOT stop!

From: ab...@mindspring.net
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:47:47 -0400 (EDT)
To: xxx...@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Issue 010724-21042400

Hello,

Thank you for cc:ing us on this cease and desist request. We advise you to
send the full header and body of any subsequent emails from ya...@enter.net
to ab...@enter.net including this original cease and desist request so they
may take action.

Thank you

Beth Milliken
Abuse Engineer
EarthLink Networks

<end>

Most of his e-mails are just as you see above- a broken record which repeats:
"Attention Defendant Bradshit Hey you lying fuck, did you post this your gutless
self or was it one of your homosexual, lovers?"

LET YALE WIN HIS APPEAL AND HE WILL BE TORPEDOED IF THE FTC AND OTHERS DON'T
GET HIM FIRST. He's a sore loser and a pathetic one at that. No one likes sore
losers and since June 12th (when he had his kook lawsuit against me dismissed)
he's been acting like a spoiled brat who didn't get his way. I am tired of
wasting time and MONEY on him.

<STOP>

Anyone wanting a copy of the document I quoted from above about why Yale had his
appeal dismissed should try:
Docket details of Edeiken Vs Bradbury 1999-C-2786--
Anyone may obtain the docket for $3.00 and here is how and
partially what it shows:
Andrea Naugle -- Clerk Civil Court
Lehigh County Court House
Room 202
4555 West Hamilton Street
Allentown, Pennsylvania 18101-1614

BTW John there is a lot that neither you or Edeikenites know about but if
bastard Edeiken shows up in Texas he will face criminal charges. I hope he tries
to foist his kook lawsuit again and he will get nailed for all the lies he told
as proven in these archives which have been admitted to proper authorities over
the months.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=oisojtk9amim07dlukf3uah172bpl7gahd%404ax.com
Subject: A Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take (This is
a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) nazihunter December 1999
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:26:50 -0500
Message-ID: <oisojtk9amim07dlu...@4ax.com>

The above documents how Yale F. Edeiken Esq. issued a subpoena to learn my
identity and my address and telephone number which he subsequently used to
issue death threats.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=cjsojts1647ukls7aci5eunccjick0du18%404ax.com
Subject: A Second Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take
(This is a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) Forging Digital Signatures
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:27:05 -0500
Message-ID: <cjsojts1647ukls7a...@4ax.com>

The above fully documents one example of a number that Yale F. Edeiken
manufactured evidence in his malicious prosecution against me.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=3&selm=15pojto379c9rkbecim3q7f5carfcukte3%404ax.com
Subject: A Third Simple Test Which The Apellate Judges Will Get To Take
(This is a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) Malicious Prosecution
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:27:13 -0500
Message-ID: <15pojto379c9rkbec...@4ax.com>

The above fully documents how Yale F. Edeiken abuses the legal system to
harass and intimidate people. It shows how he refers to using the legal
system against people as giving them the "treatment."

Here is the "debunking" of the majority of Yale's trumped up charges and out
right lies he made in a sworn statement or complaints against me:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=5&selm=h9qb9ts7hlbbnchp6qk4t1adnum6sjuipf%404ax.com
Subject: Ken McVay and his Nizkor Deliberately Make Public False Information In
Order to Smear Private Citizens ...
Message-ID: <h9qb9ts7hlbbnchp6...@4ax.com>

The above counters Yale's lunatic accusation that I am nazihunter and thus I
harass myself! The above also proves that I did not originally post Yale F.
Edeiken's parents names etc. The jury will like to compare the above proofs to
Yale's accusations and an obscene telephone call in which Yale made numerous
threats with a voice that obviously sounds like drunkard slurred speech. They
will appreciate how a bastard calls and harasses a Defendant after agreeing in
writing to leave me alone. I still have all the parer work too! I also have Yale
denying an agreement was ever made and then admitting it was!

MORE:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=fbnugtog60c5akdetkekkgepuv2npur610%404ax.com
Subject: By Request- More Yale F. Edeiken Lies and Perjury He Presented in a
Sworn Complaint to a Civil Court!
Message-ID: <fbnugtog60c5akdet...@4ax.com>

The above shows numerous posts of mine deliberately quoted out of context (in
order to put me in a bad light) and what I actually posted in actual context. A
jury will love those! BTW I have all the posts which Yale quoted of context in
full context so any jury or panel of judges will be able to compare what I
actually posted compared to Edeiken's distorted versions!

Here is another false charge a jury will be impressed reading:

Here is Ken McVay (who is also a proven accomplice of Yale F. Edeiken joining in
the smear campaign and propagation of false information using exempt donations
funneled through B'nai Brith):

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=95sgho%242pck%241%40news.tht.net
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Edeiken v. Bradbury: Plaintiff's Memorandum of Law
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:00:24 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <95sgho$2pck$1...@news.tht.net>

The only question remaining is what damages will be awarded in this
case, against Texan Scott "Doc Tavish" Bradbury, a notorious racist.

<<Doc Tavish comment December 30, 2001: Yale lost his lawsuit against me and
that is fact! No victory and no damages awarded to a perjurious lying bastard!>>

Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
Last-Modified: 2001/02/07

PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW

[...]

Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who floods
the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism.
Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are pederasts and that Judaism
advocates having sexual relations with three year old girls.

<END>

Here is how I answered Bastard Edeiken and I hope this gets in front of a panel
of judges or a jury:

<START>

I can't help it Tubby but your false accusation simply does not cut it!
You can whine and wail all you wish you shyster bastard BUT I have the
very writings and teachings of your sick brethren to counter your lunatic
complaint! Name any other religion which has teachings such as what
follows and mind you- these are the words straight from the "mouths" of
Jews!

<START>

http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/mohel.htm
(Click the link above to verify the contents and to see pictures
which appeared in The Jerusalem Post magazine. That Rabbi is certainly
SUCKING on an infant's penis! Link active February 24, 2001)

Shabbath 19:2
They may perform on the Sabbath all things that are needful for
circumcision: excision, tearing, sucking [the wound], and putting thereon
a bandage and cumin. If this had not been pounded up on the eve of the
Sabbath a man may chew it with his teeth and then apply it.
The Mishnah Translated by Herbert Danby
Oxford: Oxford University Press. 1933. pp. 116-117.

Shabbat 133B
II.1.
A. Suck [out the wound]:
B. Said R. Pappa, "A Surgeon who didn't suck out the wound - that is a
source of danger, and we throw him out."
C. So what else is new? Obviously, since we are prepared to desecrate the
Sabbath on that account, it is certainly dangerous not to do it!
D. What might you have supposed? That this blood is stored up. So we are
informed that it is the result of the wound, and in the status of a
bandage and cumin: Just as when one doesn't put on a bandage and cumin,
there is danger, so here, too, if one doesn't do it, there is danger.
The Talmud of Babylonia: An American Translation
Translated by Jacob Neusner
Number 275. Volume II.E: Shabbat Chapters 18-24.
Program in Judaic Studies Brown University
Atlanta: Scholars Press. 1993. p. 45.

[The brackets in the quotes below are in the texts quoted.]
"There are three stages required for the performance of a ritually correct
circumcision in Jewish law: the removal of the foreskin; the tearing of
the underlying membraene so as to expose the glans completely; and the
sucking away of the blood, m'tsitsah." Roger V. Pavey. The Kindest Cut of
All. Bognor Regis, W. Sussex: New Horizon. 1981. pp. 87-88.

"The method to be adopted is laid down thus: 'One excises the foreskin,
[that is] the entire skin covering the glans, so that the corona is laid
bare. Afterwards, one tears with the finger-nail the soft membrane
underneath the skin, turning it to the sides until the flesh of the glans
appears. Thereafter, one sucks the membrane until the blood is extracted
from the [more] remote places, so that no danger [to the infant] may
ensue; and any circumciser who does not carry out the sucking procedure is
to be removed [from his office].' . . . The operation itself, then,
consists of three distinct acts: the excision of the prepuce; the
laceration of the mucous membrane covering the glans; and the sucking of
the blood from the interior of the wound." Immanuel Jakobovits. Jewish
Medical Ethics: A Comparative and Historical Study of the Jewish Religious
Attitude to Medicine and Its Practice. New York: Bloch Publishing Company.
1959. pp. 193-194.

"The baby cried, blood flowed on to his penis and - as the rabbi had
predicted - Graham [the godfather] did not faint. The rabbi then bent over
the baby and sucked the wound. I know this sounds awful, but it is part of
the Jewish tradition. It's supposed to help the healing." Jack Shamash.
"My Son on the Cutting Edge." Independent (London), no. 3,797 (Thursday,
December 17, 1998): p. R8.

"And what of the practice of sucking the bleeding penis? While condemning
the procedure, some physicians contend that it was used to stop
bleeding.47 Not only is there little evidence for this theory, but it was
also a largely ineffective method. Furthermore, even in antiquity,
surgeons had better methods to stop bleeding, such as pressure,
instruments, and medication.48 According to Dr. H. Speert (1953),
Maimonides 'staunchly supported this procedure [sucking the bleeding
penis] as a prophylactic measure against inflammation.'"49 Edward
Wallerstein. Circumcision: An American Health Fallacy. New York: Springer
Publishing Company. 1980. p. 160.

"mezizah -- Hebrew term for the third step in the Jewish circumcision
ritual, in which the mohel applies his mouth to the freshly circumcised
infant's penis and sucks up the first drops of blood. In more recent times
this procedure has been carried out via a tube, as infections, venereal
disease, and tuberculosis, sometimes resulting in the death of the infant,
have occurred due to contamination of the wound. Most Jewish circumcisors
today have eliminated this step from the circumcision ritual. Critics have
attributed sadistic and homosexual implications to this practice, while
defenders claim that this was simply all that was known during ancient
times to stop the bleeding." Rosemary Romberg. Circumcision: The Painful
Dilemma. South Hadley, Massachusetts: Bergin & Garvey, Publishers, Inc.
1985. p. 395.

"The traditional practice of metzitzah b'peh, which has its roots in the
earliest history of the Jewish people and has survived unchanged to the
present time, should be viewed with great respect. It is spoken of very
positively in the Jewish literature on circumcision both as an essential
part of the ritual and as a health measure which prevents infection and
promotes healing." Henry C. Romberg, M.D. Bris Milah: A book about the
Jewish ritual of circumcision. Jerusalem/New York: Feldheim Publishers.
1982. pp. 57-58.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

More on Jewry's perverse practice of sucking the wound:

http://x62.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=645502261
(Link is now GOOGLE- copy subject title into what the link above gives.)
Subject: The Criminal Nature of Circumcision
Date: 07/12/2000
Author: Michael <Mic...@universalway.org>

[...]

Circumcision is extremely painful and traumatic for a baby. In the male
version, the baby is placed spread-eagle on his back on a board and his
arms and legs are strapped down so that he can't move. His genitals are
scrubbed and covered with antiseptic. His foreskin is torn from the glans
and slit lengthwise so that the circumcision instrument can be inserted.
Then his foreskin is cut off, usually without anesthetic.

While this may appear to be an odd thing to do to a baby boy, the ancient
orthodox religious ritual is more bizarre. According to "The Universal
Jewish Encyclopedia"; "The circumcision rite consists of the following: .
. .3. metzitzah, the sucking of the wound, to staunch the blood, by means
of the mouth, as practiced in earlier times, or by means of a suction
cylinder or other modern methods in more recent times."

[...]

http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/

~~End of DejaCom Archive~~

http://x62.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=658781901
(Link is now GOOGLE- copy subject title into what the link above gives.)
Subject: United Nations: Lieberman a Child Abuser!
Date: 08/16/2000
Author: Mikey <iam...@bellatlantic.net>

[...]

Here is some more information in the matter, particularly pertinent to
those who call themselves Orthodox Jews;

On page 214 of "The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia" (Universal Jewish
Encyclopedia, Inc., 1939), the following is found;

"The circumcision rite consists of the following: 1. milah, cutting off
the end of the upper prepuce; 2. periah, baring the glans by tearing or
cutting the tender lower prepuce and pushing it behind the glans; 3.
metzitzah, the sucking of the wound, to staunch the blood, by means of the
mouth, as practiced in earlier times, or by means of a suction cylinder or
other modern methods in more recent times."

On page/column 572 in Volume V of "Encyclopedia Judaica" (Keter Publishing
House, 1971), the following is found;

"The next stage is the performance of mezizah ('suction'). This has led to
much controversy in recent years. Throughout the ages this was done by
suction by the mouth in order, according to Maimonides, to remove the
blood from the distant parts of the wound (Maim. Yad, Milah, 2:2). It was
the recognized method of disinfection at the time. A mohel who refrained
from performing it was considered to be endangering the life of the child,
and had to be debarred from practice. Toward the middle of the 19th and
the beginning of the 20th century cases of syphilis, tuberculosis, and
diphtheria occurring in infants were ascribed to infection from mohalim
using this method of suction. This has been contested by a few Jewish
doctors, and some communities still follow the original practice. The
Paris Consistoire abolished mezizah in 1843."

[...]

The conclusion in the matter is that the "mezizah" is the stage of
circumcision where the mohel places his mouth on the baby's penis and
sucks the blood from the wound. And while many of the sects of Judaism
claim to no longer use the mezizah, it is clear that this stage was
performed by all sects for at least a millennia, and in fact, is still
performed in some Orthodox sects (by some people who condemn homosexuality
as a sin punishable by death -
http://www.universalway.org/Foreign/judaism-homo.html#DeadGays ), all of
which identifies the original nature of the ritual upon which the modern
operation is based.

Mohel sucking blood from baby's penis -
http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/mohel.htm

Thus, in the same manner that pedophilia is acknowledged as a repulsive
act of a criminal nature by many people and nations, the sucking of the
penis of a baby boy as part of the circumcision rite of Orthodox Jewish
Rabbis can even further establish the innate criminal nature of
circumcision, by placing the orthodox ritual squarely within the realm of
sexual child abuse of the same nature as pedophilia.

~~End of DejaCom Archive~~

More (January 14, 2001) on the Jewish perversion of "sucking the wound":

http://www.act-now.org/discuss/
This Discussion Group is moderated by a group of Mohel's
associated with ACT to whom you can post questions
you may have about circumcision.
http://www.act-now.org/discuss/_disc1/00000111.htm

What Are The Details Of "Mezizah," The Practice Of Sucking The Blood From
The Circumcision Wound?
From: Pat
Date: 10/19/99
Time: 2:32:54 AM

Comments
On a web page listing "Serious Complications Of Circumcision"
(http://faculty.washington.edu/gcd/DOC/foreskin.html), they mentioned
"Tuberculosis - via Mezizah, the practice of sucking the blood from the
circumcision wound, the mohel gives the disease to the infant."

What, exactly, are the details of this "Mezizah"?

And how prevalent through this obviously unsanitary practice is the spread
of tuberculosis and other diseases and infections?

<END>

http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm

[...]

"As for the bris milah (circumcision), there is no masturbation of the
child. In some Orthodox circles, the mohel, after the cutting, will fill
his mouth with wine, suck on the wound, and then spit out the wine and
blood mixture in his mouth. This is done to stanch the blood flow and
disinfect the wound -- not for sexual reasons. Most mohels no longer do
this." Andrew E. Mathis, Ph.D. 9 August 2000

<END>

http://www.torahcc.org/mishna/23-1-00/friday.htm
Torah Community Connection
Misha Yomit Program
Week 9 - Friday - 28 Jan. 2000

{...]

SHABBAT: CHAPTER 19: MISHNA 2

One may do all the needs of circumcision on Shabbat: one may circumcise,
and tear, and suck, and put on it a bandage and cumin. If he did not grind
before Shabbat, he may chew with his teeth and he may put. If he did not
mix wine and oil before Shabbat, he may put this by itself and this by
itself...

Kehati

This mishnah lists the needs of circumcision which may be performed on
Shabbat.

One may do all the needs of circumcision on Shabbat: one may circumcise -
circumcising and cutting the foreskin, and tear - the thin membrane under
the foreskin, which the mohel tears to reveal the corona, and suck - out a
small quantity of blood to cleanse the wound and put on it a bandage and
cumin - a type of plant, used for medicinal purposes.

<END>

DOES NOT THE ABOVE (Sucking the penises of infants) SHOW PEDOPHILIA IN THE
NAME OF RELIGION?

How about the molestation of girls three years and one day old?

Here is the Jewish Talmud blessing this molestation as well:

What the Talmud is:

The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia (1943 edition, page 474] says: "The
Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break,
through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and
methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which
a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and
most important single member of that literature, and round it are
gathered a number of Midrashim, partly legal (Halachic) and partly
works of edification (Haggadic)."

[NOTE: The words in parenthesis are as they appeared in the text; they
are not my additions. Doc Tavish]

".... any decision regarding the Jewish religion must be based on the
TALMUD as the final resume...." "The JEWS - Their History, Culture,
and Religion", Vol. 4, p. 1332, Jewish Publication Society of America

"The TALMUD is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish
religion. Whatever laws, customs or ceremonies we observe- whether we
are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform or merely spasmodic
sentimentalists-we follow the TALMUD. It is our common law."
THE TALMUD; HEART'S BLOOD of the JEWISH FAITH by Herman Wouk which also
ran serially in the (11/17/59) New York Herald Tribune

---------------------------------------------

The Talmud Elaborating On Child Molestation (Young Girls):

From:
The Babylonian Talmud
Translated into English by Rabbi Dr. I. Epstein
London
The Soncino Press 1935

[Note: When you see something such as {3}, this means a numbered
footnote for further reference. Words and phrases in ( ) are as the
appeared in the Talmud, in ( )s. Doc Tavish]

<Yebamoth 60b on page 402 of above Talmud>:
It was taught: Rabbi Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under
the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for
it is said, "But all the women children that have not known man by
lying with him, keep alive for yourselves {3}" and Phineas {4} surely
was with them. And the Rabbis? {5}- (These were kept alive) as bondmen
and bondwomen. {6} If so, {7} a proselyte whose age is three years and
one day {8} should also be permitted!- (The prohibition is to be
explained) in accordance with Rabbi Huna. For Rabbi Huna pointed out
the contradiction: It is written "Kill every woman that hath known man
by lying with him {9}, but if she hath not known, save her alive;"
from this it may be inferred that children are to be kept alive
whether they have known or not known (a man); and, on the other hand,
it is also written, 'But all the women children, that have not known
man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves' {3}, but do not
spare them if they have known. Consequently {10} it must be said that
Scripture speaks of one {11} who is fit for cohabitation. {12}

Footnotes to above:
{3} Numbers 31, 18
{4} Who was a priest.
{5} How could they, contrary to the opinion of Rabbi Simeon b. Yohai,
which has scriptural support, forbid the marriage of the young
proselyte?
{6} Not for matrimony.
{7} That according to Rabbi Simeon, Numbers 31, 18 refers to
matrimony.
{8} So long as she has "not known a man."
{9} Numbers 31, 17
{10} To reconcile the contradiction.
{11} I.e. one who had attained the age of three years and one day.
{12} Not one who had actually experienced it.

For the Numbers 31, 17-18 passages we will use:
CHUMASH Intelligent Concept Search
which is at: http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash

and enter into the search engine windows Numbers Chapter 31 and scroll
down to get the Torah scriptures and you will see after downloading
and scrolling down:

Numbers CHAPTER 31

31 : 7 They mounted a surprise attack against Midian as God had
commanded Moses, and killed all the [adult] males.
31 : 8 Along with the other victims, they also killed the five kings
of Midian: Evi, Rekem, Tzur, Chur, and Reva, the five Midianite kings.
They also killed Balaam son of Beor by the sword.
31 : 9 The Israelites took captive all the women of Midian and their
children. They took as booty all their animals, all their possessions,
and all their wealth.
31 : 10 [The Israelites] also set fire to all their residential cities
and fortresses,
31 : 11 taking all the booty and plunder, both man and beast.
31 : 12 They brought the captives, the plunder, and the spoils to
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and the entire Israelite community, [who
were] in the Western Plains of Moab, on the Jericho Jordan.
31 : 13 Moses, Eleazar and all the community princes went out to greet
them outside the camp.
31 : 14 However, Moses was angry at the generals and captains, who
were the officers returning from the military campaign.
31 : 15 "Why have you kept all the women alive?" demanded Moses.
31 : 16 "These are exactly the ones who were involved with the
Israelites at Balaam's instigation, causing them to be unfaithful to
God in the Peor incident, and bringing a plague on God's community.
31 : 17 Now kill every male child, as well as every woman who has been
involved intimately with a man.
31 : 18 However, all the young girls who have not been involved
intimately with a man, you may keep alive for yourselves.

Sources:
The Torah translation you are reading is taken from
The Living Torah, by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan
The Hebrew Torah text linked to this Intelligent Search
is provided by and under the responsibility of
The World ORT Union

This Intelligent Chumash Search is provided by Mnemotrix Systems,
Inc., in memory of the cherished neshama.

[I included more than Numbers 31, 17-18 to show what was taking place
at the time. Notice that Moses is mentioned and that he is angry too!
I now ask: who was going to examine these young girls? To be honest we
all know that a genital inspection would be required! Remember the key
is "young girls." Doc Tavish]

------------------------------------

The following was from a reply post and it further amplifies Jewish
male cravings for toddler females!

On 7 Jan 1998 , jher...@ix.netcom.com(Joseph Hertzlinger) wrote:
>Let's see. First the Rabbis point out that Simeon b. Yohai was talking
>through his yarmulke. Then they point out that the marriage to the said
>three-year-old girl need not be consummated immediately. This is
>supposed to prove approval of pederasty.

Does this suit you better?

<Sanhedrin 55b on page 376 in above Talmud>:
Rabbi Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and one
day may be acquired in marriage by coition... If she married a priest,
she may eat of terumah; {3}

[Coition means having the sex act and notice please that the age is at
three years and one day! I do not see any Brady Bill type of a waiting
period for consumation. Do you? Doc Tavish]

Footnote:
{3} As the law of an Israelite's (adult) daughter who married a
priest. But if she is less than three years old, although the
Kiddushin accepted on her behalf by her father is valid, yet since she
is sexually immature, the marriage cannot be consumated, and hence she
is not thereby enabled to eat the terumah.

The footnotes {3} and {4} for Sanhedrin 54b on Talmud volume page 371
say:
{3} At nine years a male attains sexual matureness.
{4} Lev. XVIII, 22 Thus the point of comparison is the
sexual matureness of woman is reached at the age of three.

Are you going to deny this as well? Come on now and face reality! If
the Talmud says "sexual matureness of woman is reached at the age of
three" is anyone going to believe what you said: "they point out that
the marriage to the said three-year-old girl need not be consummated
immediately." If she is considered to be sexually mature at the age of
three then why would any groom put off consummating the marriage?

Read the Footnote again (as shown above):
{3} As the law of an Israelite's (adult) daughter who married a
priest. But if she is less than three years old, although the
Kiddushin accepted on her behalf by her father is valid, yet since she
is sexually immature, the marriage cannot be consummated, and hence she
is not thereby enabled to eat the terumah.

Please note why the marriage can NOT be consummated- "if she is less
than three years old" and "since she is sexually immature, the
marriage cannot be consummated."

As a further note, if Jews didn't have hangups about sex with three
year old girls then why is this on the web?

http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5757/achrei.html
(Link active for verification 10/22/2000)

SELECTED HALACHOS RELATING TO PARSHAS ACHREI

Hilchos Yichud: Rulings of HaRav Feinstein
By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt

[...]

HILCHOS YICHUD: RULINGS OF HARAV M. FEINSTEIN

This verse is cited by most of the early authorities as the Biblical
source for the halachos of yichud, the prohibition against a man being
alone in a secluded place with a woman. The laws of yichud are complex
and detailed and the opinions of the poskim are diverse and
contradictory. This discussion will focus exclusively on the rulings
of Harav Moshe Feinstien, one of the greatest halachic authorities of
our generation....

AT WHAT AGE DOES THE PROHIBITION OF YICHUD BEGIN AND END?

A man over thirteen is prohibited to be alone with a girl over three.
Under extenuating circumstances, it is permitted to be alone with a
girl till the age of seven (5).

A woman over twelve may not be alone with a boy over nine.

Footnote:

5 Oral ruling by Harav M. Feinstein (quoted in Children in Halachah
pg. 40) based on the rational presented in Igros Moshe EH 4:65-12,
where, in the final analysis, Harav Feinstein is hesitant to permit
this. He writes, however, that he would not object to those who are
lenient.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You can cry or spit all you wish Shyster Edeiken but what I post now and
have posted is what Judaism teaches and allows! Name any other religion
which condones molestation of infants and toddlers!

<STOP>

Come to Texas and try your crap Yale and see what the legal system does to YOU!

WILL ONE OF YALE'S PALS BE SURE THNE BASTARD GETS A COPY OF THIS!?

BTW Yale I kept all of your vulgar and threatening e-mails too!

Also BTW a jury or a panel of judges will also get to read statements made by
various attorneys in Allentown commenting on your ethics and the panel of judges
or a jury will also get to see this and they will ask if all of your behavior
are the acts of a rational man who is on record as taking part in this two way
conversation quoted in true context: "---I, Doc Tavish, asked: "Care to tell all
of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul Trainor (Law Office)
distanced themselves from you?" (Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
"Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001"

They will see what you declared above only matches your court house antics here:

<START>

The Morning Call
Page: B02
Edition: FIFTH
Section: LOCAL/REGION
Column:
Corrections:
Memo:

CITY ATTORNEY FOUND GUILTY IN ELEVATOR CONFRONTATION
by KRISTIN CASLER, The Morning Call

Allentown attorney Yale F. Edeiken was found guilty and fined $600 plus
costs for a confrontation with a Lehigh County deputy sheriff and another
man in a courthouse elevator.

During the June 12 incident, Edeiken struck Deputy Brenda Hartman with his
briefcase and allegedly threatened the man by saying he had a gun,
according to District Justice Diane Jepsen, who heard the case. Edeiken
later was found to have a permit for and was carrying a .357 Magnum.

Jepsen ordered Edeiken, whose office is at 39 N. 5th St., to pay the fine
after a hearing Monday on charges of harassment and disorderly conduct
filed by Hartman. Jepsen said Edeiken no longer has a permit for his gun.

According to the complaint, Hartman was in the courthouse side elevator,
which usually is reserved for prisoner transport, with Joanne Keller.
Keller, who was not handcuffed, had just been sentenced and Hartman was
taking her to pay fines and costs before her release.

Also on the elevator were Edeiken, David Raymond, public defender Earl
Supplee and county courier Bill Bichel.

Edeiken told Jepsen that Raymond, a convicted felon who had burglarized
him, pushed his way onto the elevator.

But Jepsen said other witnesses testified that Raymond already was on the
elevator when Edeiken boarded and started a shoving match. Witnesses
varied on what was said.

Witnesses said Edeiken called Hartman a whore, but Edeiken said he was
referring to Keller.

Raymond is a friend of Keller, and Keller once resided at a house owned by
Edeiken. Edeiken was at the courthouse as a character witness for Keller
at her sentencing.

Edeiken swung his briefcase at Raymond, striking him and Hartman,
according to testimony.

Hartman opened the elevator doors on the third floor and ordered Edeiken
to get out. He refused, and as Raymond attempted to exit, Edeiken told
Raymond he had a gun and moved as if he was going to draw it. No weapon
was seen.

Raymond and Supplee then went downstairs for help, and Hartman took
Edeiken and Keller to the bullpen where prisoners are held pending their
proceedings, Jepsen said. Hartman told them to stay until she got help.
When she returned, Edeiken was gone.

<STOP>

NOTE TO YALE F. EDEIKEN:
There will be numerous people subpoenaed to comment about your behavior and your
ethics. I am tired of being malligned by your filth you dirty bastard and I
insist that you come to my county and attempt your evil campaign against me!
You will find out that you won't get away with your crimes like your local DA
allows you to do! Read my sig line to see what a panel of judges or a jury will
see concerning your star witness!

Doc Tavish

--
"First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he marks the place the
cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to hold position,
knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.
Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins
to subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."
Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."
Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone." -- Kook Sara Salzman having a perverted
fantasy in <alt.sex.bondage>
-From: ssch...@infinet.com
-Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
-Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
-Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>

John Morris

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on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:30:59 -0600, T-a-v-i-s-h
<t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:57:22 GMT,
> <dasu2uohekq06vme5...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

> >In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
> ><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:

> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
> >> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
> >> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

> >[snip]

> >> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
> >> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
> >> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!

> >> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.

> >> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
> >> character and I am not about to let up.

> >In other words, you are fixated.

> Fixated? How am I fixated

Because you've just announced that you're going to keep talking about
it, and you're not going to stop.

> on showing one and all the mindset of a pig who makes
> a sworn statement accusing me of: "threats of violence, including
> threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
> Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for
> "lampshades."" when her own writings show where such fantasies come
> from.

I don't think they are fantasies. I think you made those threats.



> Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever
> produced the post which would substantiate their claim?

Not at all, since you've quoted and discussed the very posts.

> Where is your sense of truth and justice?

> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
> then shove it.

In other words, you are fixated on this.

[snip]



> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07

> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW

> [...]

> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
> three year old girls.
>
> <END>

[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]

- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>


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John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

Your opinion. You need to read these two brand new posts if you want to see real
direct threats made:

From: T-a-v-i-s-h <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
Subject: Will Jeffrey G. Brown Acknowledge the Death Threats Made by his Pals
Levenstein and Ferree Against Me? aka Re: Will Fat Boy Bradbury Ever Own Up to
His S&M Fantasies and Threats of Torture?
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:36:41 -0600
Message-ID: <53tv2u0il6m315vf8...@4ax.com>

From: T-a-v-i-s-h <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
Subject: Re: Will Jeffrey G. Brown Acknowledge the Death Threats Made by his
Pals Levenstein and Ferree Against Me? aka Re: Will Fat Boy Bradbury Ever Own Up
to His S&M Fantasies and Threats of Torture?
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 07:47:17 -0600
Message-ID: <n3p03us7cnkvi1u9c...@4ax.com>

>> Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever
>> produced the post which would substantiate their claim?
:
>Not at all, since you've quoted and discussed the very posts.

I have not. Show the post in which I said to Sara Salzman what she swore to in a
civil court that I said to her. YOU CAN'T DO IT!

>> Where is your sense of truth and justice?
>>
>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
>> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
>> then shove it.
:
>In other words, you are fixated on this.

Just as Jeffrey is fixated on quoting me out of context (and after I have the
decency to post Sara in full context!)?

>[snip]
>
>> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
>> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
>
>> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
>
>> [...]
>
>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.
>>
>> <END>
>
>[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]

You don't like the fact that I proved one of Yale's lunatic accusations to be
false. I proved him wring by showing precisely what Jews teach anb=nd practice
which was:

<START>

<START>

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

[...]

[...]

http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/

~~End of DejaCom Archive~~

[...]

[...]

~~End of DejaCom Archive~~

<END>

http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm

[...]

<END>

{...]

Kehati

<END>

What the Talmud is:

---------------------------------------------

Numbers CHAPTER 31

------------------------------------

[...]

Footnote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

<STOP>

John, you just can't stand for me to DEBUNK Yale's lunatic accusations. The
above pretty well slam dunks his:


>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.

You are still dishonest and still in denial! Why do you keep falling on your
sword for Yale Edeiken?

Doc Tavish

John Morris

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on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:30:59 -0600, T-a-v-i-s-h

<t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:57:22 GMT,
> <dasu2uohekq06vme5...@4ax.com> John Morris
> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

> >In <juhu2uscii9kom5ii...@4ax.com> in
> >alt.revisionism, on Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:16:22 -0600, Tavish
> ><t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:

> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:05:04 GMT,
> >> <jieu2ustvgno6sicu...@4ax.com> John Morris
> >> <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

> >[snip]

> >> >> Judging by the content of all of Sara Salzman's S&M Torture
> >> >> fantasies she posted to alt.sex.bondage I would safely
> >> >> conjecture that she is having an orgasmic frenzy about now!

> >> >You seem to be fixated on this particular fantasy.

> >> Fixated? I think Sara's writings speak volumes about her and her
> >> character and I am not about to let up.

> >In other words, you are fixated.

> Fixated? How am I fixated

Because you've just announced that you're going to keep talking about


it, and you're not going to stop.

> on showing one and all the mindset of a pig who makes


> a sworn statement accusing me of: "threats of violence, including
> threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
> Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for
> "lampshades."" when her own writings show where such fantasies come
> from.

I don't think they are fantasies. I think you made those threats.


> Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever
> produced the post which would substantiate their claim?

Not at all, since you've quoted and discussed the very posts.

> Where is your sense of truth and justice?

> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
> then shove it.

In other words, you are fixated on this.

[snip]



> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07

> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW

> [...]

> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
> three year old girls.
>
> <END>

[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]

- --
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at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>


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Your opinion. You need to read these two brand new posts if you want to see real
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From: T-a-v-i-s-h <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
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From: T-a-v-i-s-h <t--av--is...@ix.ne--tc--om.c--o--m-RemoveHyphens2Mail>
Subject: Re: Will Jeffrey G. Brown Acknowledge the Death Threats Made by his
Pals Levenstein and Ferree Against Me? aka Re: Will Fat Boy Bradbury Ever Own Up
to His S&M Fantasies and Threats of Torture?
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 07:47:17 -0600
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>> Aren't you the least bit curious why neither Yale or Sara have ever
>> produced the post which would substantiate their claim?
:
>Not at all, since you've quoted and discussed the very posts.

I have not. Show the post in which I said to Sara Salzman what she swore to in a


civil court that I said to her. YOU CAN'T DO IT!

>> Where is your sense of truth and justice?


>>
>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
>> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
>> then shove it.
:
>In other words, you are fixated on this.

Just as Jeffrey is fixated on quoting me out of context (and after I have the


decency to post Sara in full context!)?

>[snip]


>
>> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
>> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
>
>> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
>
>> [...]
>
>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.
>>
>> <END>
>
>[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]

You don't like the fact that I proved one of Yale's lunatic accusations to be


false. I proved him wring by showing precisely what Jews teach anb=nd practice
which was:

Here is how I answered Bastard Edeiken and I hope this gets in front of a panel

<START>

<START>

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

[...]

[...]

http://www.SexuallyMutilatedChild.org/

~~End of DejaCom Archive~~

[...]

[...]

~~End of DejaCom Archive~~

<END>

http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm

[...]

<END>

{...]

Kehati

<END>

What the Talmud is:

---------------------------------------------

Numbers CHAPTER 31

------------------------------------

[...]

Footnote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

John, you just can't stand for me to DEBUNK Yale's lunatic accusations. The


above pretty well slam dunks his:

>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.

You are still dishonest and still in denial! Why do you keep falling on your
sword for Yale Edeiken?

Doc Tavish

---I, Doc Tavish, asked:


>Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul
>Trainor (Law Office) distanced themselves from you?
(Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:21:43 GMT, <8isv2u4gv2ljleg8d...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

You certainly didn't have the same view when Sara was posting my old Bruno posts
repeadtedly and adding what her father said! Isn't that hypocrisy? You certainly
never accused Sara of being fixated when she kept agitating Yale's lawsuit
against me almost everyday for about a year and a half. You never accused others
of being fixated when they were saying I was Bradburied, that I was going to
lose my home, I was going to be living in a cardboard box and all the other
derogatory and demeaning crap I endured!

You don't seem to mind people plotting to cause another person personal grief or
financial harm. I will never forget! NEVER!

[...]

>> Where is your sense of truth and justice?
:
>> As for me giving up on posting Sara's writings-- forget it! I will
>> keep posting her S&M Torture fantasies and if you don't like it
>> then shove it.
>
>In other words, you are fixated on this.

No more so than Sara being fixated when she badgered me for a year and a half
about what was none of her business!

>[snip]
>
>> Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-A1.01
>> Last-Modified: 2001/02/07
>
>> PLAINTIFF'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW
>
>> [...]
>
>> Defendant is a sociopath with a pathological hatred of Jews who
>> floods the Internet with long, demented screeds about both Jews
>> and Judaism. Defendant claims, inter alia, that rabbis are
>> pederasts and that Judaism advocates having sexual relations with
>> three year old girls.
>>
>> <END>
:
>[Long, demented screeds about both Jews and Judaism deleted]

So you are now saying what I posted which were the very words of Andrew Mathis
and his fellow Jews wrote are "demented screeds"? You're real funny John!

http://www.faem.com/debate/a0809am.htm

[...]

<END>

{...]

Kehati

<END>

You're funny John! I guess that I why I like you!

Doc Tavish

Jeffrey G. Brown

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In article <5$--$$-$-%_-%-%%-$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:21:43 GMT,
> <8isv2u4gv2ljleg8d...@4ax.com>
> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:

> [...deletia...]

> >I don't think they are fantasies. I think you made those threats.
>
> Your opinion.

Nope. It's an absolute fact that Scottie "Blubbermouth" Bradbury made repeated
threats of torture and mutilation:


Vengeance is sweet and I know that the day will come when
I'll get to see the sneak that did this to me get a thorough
interrogation from Bruno! I will love standing there
watching him peel your skin off layer by layer with his lash
and ever so methodically. Your screams of pain will fall on
deaf ears. I will take extreme delight in watching the foam
come spewing out of your vile mouth as Bruno gives you
another! Do not worry for I will not let him kill you. You
must heal up and become well- so the process can start right
back over again to be repeated again and again. You will see
no end to your pain! I solemnly promise the day will come
when the tables will turn. Destiny will place you at my feet
and you will pray for death and it will by no means come.

-- From: Billy Dale McTavish <tav...@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: COWARDS! SNEAKY VERMIN!!
-- Date: 1997/03/09
-- Message-ID: <33236E...@phoenix.net>


I do believe that Bruno would derive great pleasure in
applying his craft to Mr. Keren. Yes Bruno is from the old
Bavarian School of inquisitive acquisition. Bruno knows how
to stimulate every nerve but yet not do any sort of damage.
Yes Bruno would spend hours in a cold dark damp dungeon with
him. Bruno is a firm believer in the old adage: "No pain, no
gain."

-- From: Doc Tavish <-----@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: Re: Crushed Brains (Re: crushed testicles)
-- Date: 1997/04/16
-- Message-ID: <33558E...@phoenix.net>


Bruno has already picked the lash he will use in my
interrogation of you. He at first opted for his short fat
bull whip. This whip does not cut the flesh but it makes
extremely painful throbbing welts that only diminish in pain
over a few days. He has chosen his custom stage coach style
whip that is nearly twenty feet long. Each stroke is just
like a hot knife hitting butter. This whip on each stroke
cuts beyond the subcutaneous epidermal layers. He'll
literally peel you like an onion. Each stroke of this lash
will feel just like having a white hot wire streak across
your back and buttocks. Bruno is an artisan at his craft and
he most eagerly awaits hoisting you up in manacles to
administer the "truth serum." I will relish watching you
flop around like a fish. Pleasant dreams!

-- From: "Tavish" <doc_t...@NOSPAMdanetwork.com>
-- Subject: Re: Personal Information I'll Share
-- Date: 1999/11/16
-- Message-ID: <vilY3.2543$16.3...@news.flash.net>


You'll be squealing like stuck pig when we shove the
rotisserie skewer where the sun don't shine on April 20th!
You'll cook quite well over an open fire! You'll probably
give us all gas BUT that is why we'll have plenty of Tagment
on hand. Burp!

TAVISH :->

Bruno says that he knows how to tenderize you too. I think
he wants to use his 20 foot whip! Ouch!

-- From: Doc Tavish <tav...@phoenix.net>
-- Subject: Re: AV SHIT Rectum Boy
-- Date: 1997/03/07
-- Message-ID: <3320E4...@phoenix.net>


I can only say that Bruno knows that this happened and right
now he is outside practicing with his whip. Her looks mighty
g-d damned furious in the hot Texas sun cracking that whip.

-- From: doc_t...@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc Tavish)
-- Subject: Hagbard (?) Threatens Me by E-Mail - Say
It is Not so Little Tavish (my cat)!
-- Date: 1998/05/26
-- Message-ID: <356b3cd6...@news.phoenix.net>


Briuno eagerly awaits the day when he is able to peel your
kind like onions with his lash. I could just see the sweat
and blood spray when Bruno lays on the flay.

In your case I wouldn't want him to damage your hide. I want
a new shade for my floor lamp and a new holster for my
Desert Eagle pistol.

Bruno would, in your case, use electricity and the various
exploitations of body cavities with large blunt objects.

-- From: "Tavish" <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com>
-- Subject: Will Bruno Ever Have His Way and Day?
Let Us All Hope So! aka Re: Tavish:
Queen of Cut & Paste and Paranoid Moron?
-- Date: 1999/12/09
-- Message-ID: <82n0d...@news2.newsguy.com>


Stay gutless, little cockroach!

JGB

=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997

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<jeffreygbrown-E82...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:

>In article <5$--$$-$-%_-%-%%-$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>

>Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com
>
For a fact that Message ID yields:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage


Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)

Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500

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My Master holds the rope just so.

He knows me. Knows my moods. Knows the fear behind my eyes, both real and
imagined.

Those eyes widen as he gently lays the rope down, as he carefully,
methodically, systematically, lays the toys down on the bed.

Soft moans escape from behind gagged lips. I have been told to watch.
To see each and know that soon each will touch me.

He looks up briefly as he lays each down on the bed. Checking reactions.
Watching.

The short whip. A sigh.
The deerskin. The suede.

The small braided thong, the one that stings. A short moan.

The horsehair that stings but never marks.

The canes. The paddles. A pause.

I wait, knowing.

The small velvet bag that holds clamps. Clamps too severe for my breasts,
yet applied anyway.

A gasp. And then his smile.

He knows me. He knows I will take the pain to please him. He knows the
sacrifice I make to his Gods of Pain. He sees the torment in my eyes. The
desire to please. The love. The fear of the pain.

My Master holds the rope just so.

Through his fingers, around my wrists, making delicate rings softer than
steel. Stronger than steel. One on each wrist, a gentle bracelet that is
soon pulled tight, stretched to the bedposts and wrapped tightly. One on
each ankle. No matter how I tighten my muscles as he wraps the rope, still
it is perfectly tight. The circulation moves.
The ankle does not.

I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts.

But first, two small wooden clothespins bob before my eyes. I turn my
head, remember I am instructed to watch, turn back. The clothespins bite
the delicate flesh of each nipple. Grasp. Sting. Burn. He waits.

My Master knows me. Knows he can whip me, clothespins and all. Knows the
pain, where it will hurt the most, what I can and cannot take.
He waits.

The burning increases as the pins are removed. Ah, he will not whip me
with clothespins in place. But the moment when I was unsure, when the
blood pounded in my temples and the fear covered me like a shroud, then he
watched my eyes.

The whip falls. Which one is it now? I cannot turn my head to see which he
reaches for. But I know them all. I arch my back, try to stay still.

My Master knows me. Knows I will hold position as long as possible, before
the pain forces me to writhe, to turn, to try in vain to shield my
breasts. Knows the moment when I can no longer stay still. And precisely
then, says gently, "Don't move."

My Master holds the rope just so. Gently tugging at the knots, to release
arms and legs from bondage. Gently unwraps each wrist, each ankle. Rubs
each, and kisses the places where the rope has left its mark. The gag is
removed. I swallow.

"Kneel."

I crouch on the bed, head down, ass up, as he mounts the bed behind me.
His hands caress my ass softly, then spank sharply. Slowly, quickly, his
hand falls upon my ass. I wait for the moment, the pain/pleasure as he
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he


marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.

Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."

Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."

Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his

cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.

Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.

But not yet.

Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before me.

My Master holds the rope just so.

(c) 1994 Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect
PLEASE DO NOT REPOST WITHOUT PERMISSION

~~End of EXACT and Precise GOOGLE Archive~~

Everyone be sure to read Sara's recipe for "Fist F*cking" down below! BTW can
anyone imagine a sow like this: http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
"Fist F*cking" herself? I could drive my Jeep up in her and park it! :-)

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=sschwartz-0502951800290001%40p55.infinet.com
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What is power? (was Re: Power Imbalance v. Power Exchange)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 18:00:29 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
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<3gha46$p...@panix3.panix.com> <1995Jan30....@tantalus.clark.net>
<3gj06b$n...@crl9.crl.com> <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>
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In article <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>, ver...@crl.com (Janet W. Hardy) wrote:

>
> Quick straw poll here: How many people have ever felt totally,
> completely safe during any S/M scene -- safeword or no, light or heavy,
> D/S or sensation-only?

Verdant:

I hate to muddle the semantics further, but...

safe? You mean safe that my Master won't break my leg or suffocate me to
the point of death in a scene?

100%. Period. I know my Master would never cause tha kind of damage.

Safe, as in not getting hurt, or not getting hurt MORE thn I'd LIKE to accept?
Certianly not 100%. Mastercat is always pushing limits, and pushing me to
the edge or slightly farther.

But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with.

Perrrfect

--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
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In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:

> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
>
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.

I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience.

--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

Just read what Sara said: "I *did* state that fist fucking was not something I
had done very often, and merely wanted to impart my own (limited) experience."
and then look at her picture!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif

That is enough to blow your mind!

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From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: GREAT NEWS!!!
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
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For those of you who weren't aware of it, SandMUtopia Guardian was on the
block. It looked like we were going to lose it for good.

However:

The Utopian Network (Adam Selene/Adam's Whips) has purchased it!

We've been talking to Gerry this weekend at Anything for Love here in
Columbus (Gerry = Jillian), and she says they have great plans for it!

It will be a quarterly at first, while they get the "hang" of publishing.
NO fiction, just informational articles, photographs, etc.

Lets cross fingers and wish them good luck!

Perrrfect

--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend

~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~

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<jeffreygbrown-E82...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:

>In article <5$--$$-$-%_-%-%%-$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>

Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)

Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500

I wait, knowing.

"Kneel."

will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he


marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.

Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."

Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."

Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his

But not yet.

>JGB


>
>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
>For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
>to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
>To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997

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Get your locally fearing weaver towards my store. Hey Anne will
like the ulcer, and if Sherry frantically changes it too, the
jug will grasp in back of the urban fire. Her onion was young,
long, and recommends before the castle. Corey's dog lives with our
shirt after we depart beside it. Well, go kill a shopkeeper! If the
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<jeffreygbrown-E82...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:

>In article <5$--$$-$-%_-%-%%-$@news.noc.cabal.int>,
>Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavi...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>

Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)

Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500

I wait, knowing.

"Kneel."

will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he


marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.

Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."

Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."

Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his

But not yet.

>JGB


>
>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
>For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
>to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
>To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997

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