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NIZKOR.ORG Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928

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http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/places/canada/bc/ftp.py?places/canada/bc/salmon_arm/salmon_arm.001
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_leth1)
Shofar FTP Archive File: places/canada/bc/salmon_arm/salmon_arm.001
Subject: An Appeal for Aid: Racism in Salmon Arm, B.C.
Reply-To: kmc...@oneb.almanac.bc.ca
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Keywords: Christie,Lethbridge,Salmon Arm,Irving,Zundel

Archive/File: fascism/canada/bc salmon_arm.001
Last-Modified: 1994/05/21

[The following material reached me via the original recipient of
David Lethbridge's letter, who wishes, for the moment, to remain
anonymous. knm.]

5 May 1994

3521 20 Avenue NE
Salmon Arm, BC
V1E 4M4

Tel: 604 / 832-6678

Dear Xx. Xxxxxx:

Thank you so much for your letter of 25 April. Yes, it is
true that I am being sued....

Sincerely,

David Lethbridge

====================[ new page ]====================

SACAR The Salmon Arm Coalition Against Racism Needs your Help

[...]

Dear Friend:

If you have read our defence fund letters, you know that we need
$100,000 to fight organized racism. It seems like a lot of
money, but consider this: If only 4000 people gave $25 each, the
money would be raised in no time. We believe that there must be
4000 people in this country who are willing to lend a hand in
this fight. We hope you are one of those 4000 people. This
struggle is not just Dr. Lethbridge's struggle; it is the
struggle of all those who are opposed to racism, neo-nazism, and
holocaust denial.

We do not ask you to help, as if we were beggars. We ask you to
join us.

SACAR Defense Committee

[followups directed to alt.revisionism]

<END>

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/places/canada/bc/ftp.py?places/canada/bc/salmon_arm/salmon_arm.002
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_leth2)
Shofar FTP Archive File: places/canada/bc/salmon_arm/salmon_arm.002
Archive/File: fascism/canada/bc salmon_arm.002
Last-Modified: 1994/06/17
Newsgroups: can.general,alt.revisionism,io.eye
Subject: Anti-racist Sued By Racist For Defamation

[...]

One of Canada's most active anti-racists is being sued by one of
Canada's leading racists for... well, calling her a racist.

David Lethbridge, a doctor of psychology in Salmon Arm, B.C....

<END>

So now a communist is termed an anti-racist by Ken McVay's NIZKOR.ORG?

Here is B'nai Brith (who has also funded communist David Lethbridge) channeling
funds to Ken McVay:

http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
(Link active September 21, 2003. Archived locally as: mcvay_parasite)

The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation with the
League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a national
volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism, racism and bigotry,
and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may call
B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist that they
wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer, you can print this
form and send to:

The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________

Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo
section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation be invested for
Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft with the notation
'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor
Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)

Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt. [#0235903-43-13]

<END>

BTW the Nizkor Endowment Fund is another one of Ken McVay's self serving funding
scams which only benefits him. He has admitted that the Nizkor Endowment Fund
has never given anyone one penny BUT aren't Endowment Funds created to make
Grants? Read this expose' on McVay:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
Message-ID: <3e060...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT

Here is Ken McVay caught lying about the over $50,000 he did receive yet now
denies receiving. Does anyone doubt he did not pay tax on the money he now
denies receiving?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=07qc8vguuom77pvmugliksb3dmdf8pp82r%404ax.com&rnum=6
Subject: Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He
Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
Message-ID: <07qc8vguuom77pvmu...@4ax.com>
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:22 GMT

Here is Ken McVay distancing himself from ever having any operations in America
but noticed he lost track of what he has previously made public which, again,
proves he is a liar:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=67qc8v8192tumoaivq4joitsquts3t5bs8%404ax.com&rnum=7
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V2.0
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:12 GMT
Message-ID: <67qc8v8192tumoaiv...@4ax.com>

Back to Nizkor.Org director Ken McVay and his support of communists and his
virulence against anti-communists, Christians, and conservatives etc.

Here is Ken McVay's Nizkor equating anti-communism to racism!

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/christian-identity/religion-white-racists.html
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_identity)
Christian Identity: A Religion for White Racists
"...Christians sometimes connect with this movement because of Identity's
espousal of issues such as right-to-life and anti-Communism. Because of this
vulnerability it is important for Christians to know and understand Identity's
false and racist teachings.... Another speaker used by most groups is Lt. Col.
Jack Mohr, whose specialty is anti-Communism." <END>

What is wrong with being an anti-communist Ken? Are you therefore pro-communist?

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/hf-i-overview.html
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_heritage)
The Heritage Front Affair
Report to the Solicitor General of Canada
Security Intelligence Review Committee
December 9, 1994

"...the Edmund Burke Society in 1967. This Toronto-based organization, described
as "fringe right" by Stanley Barrett, covered the gamut of right-wing issues,
although anti-communism started out as the main focus of its attack... There was
an explosion of right-wing activity in the 1970's and 1980's. According to
Barrett, in 1987 there were close to 130 different groups functioning in the
right wing milieu.[l0] As the author stated, the radical right started out as
anticommunists... In February 1972, ...the group's orientation changed from
countering communism..." <END>

What's wrong with being an anti-communist? You have to be a pro-communist!!

http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/d/darville.helen/press/press-summary
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_darville)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/d/darville.helen/press/press-summary
Message-ID: <20E5F...@edus2.educ.monash.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 21:12:14 CDT
Reply-To: History of Antisemitism List
Sender: History of Antisemitism List
From: Paul Gardner R313 x52854
Subject: The Demidenko/Darville affair

B'nai B'rith District 21 (Australia and New Zealand)
B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation Commission
Research Division

"Demidenko's mind-set, inherited one imagines from her
upbringing, is the result of anti-Communism..." <END>

The person mentioned is being raked over the coals by B'nai Brith and its
attack dog Nizkor!

Can anyone show any archive where B'nai Brith or Nizkor has ever condemned
communism out right? Can anyone show any archives where B'nai Brith or its
attack dog Nizkor has ever shown any leaning toward anti-communism?

Here is a Nizkor archive which compares a conservative to fascism:

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/buchanan-pat/berlet-01.html
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_buchanan)
Buchanan & Fascism: A Serious Look
"The Roots of the Culture War
Spanning the breadth of the antidemocratic hard right is the banner of the
Culture War. The idea of the Culture War was promoted by strategist Paul Weyrich
of the Free Congress Foundation. In 1987, Weyrich commissioned a study, Cultural
Conservatism: Toward a New National Agenda, which argued that cultural issues
provided antiliberalism with a more unifying concept than economic conservatism.
Cultural Conservatism: Theory and Practice followed in 1991... The Christian
Coalition could conceivably evolve into a more mainstream conservative political
movement, or--especially if the economy deteriorates--it could build a mass base
for fascism similar to the clerical fascist movements of mid-century Europe.
For decades anti-communism was the glue that bound together the various
tendencies on the right. Ironically, the collapse of communism in Europe allowed
the US political right to shift its primary focus from an extreme and hyperbolic
anti-communism... dominate the right wing of the Republican Party, and included
Patrick Buchanan, Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum, Pat Robertson's Christian
Coalition, the Rockford Institute, David Noebel's Summit Ministries, and Paul
Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation and Institute for Cultural Conservatism. Of
more historical importance are the John Birch Society, the Christian
Anti-Communism Crusade..." <END>

Doesn't it seem like Nizkor director Ken McVay's favorite color would be RED?
Why is "anti-communism" shown in a negative light at his B'nai Brith funded web
site?

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/b/bellant.russ/bellant.conclu
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_bellant)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/b/bellant.russ/bellant.conclu
"The record to date leads to the conclusion that the
Republican National Committee and the network around the American
Security Council and World Anti-Communist League may consider it
forgivable to have been a fascist collaborator so long as one is
today an active anti-communist pursuing the maintenance of the
Cold War in foreign policy and extremist right-wing politics at
home." <END>

Ken McVay definitely does not like anti-communists!

http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/HF-VII-Reform-Party
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_reform)
Shofar FTP Archive File: orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/HF-VII-Reform-Party
"...Paul Fromm and Ron Gostick who were publicly perceived to be associated
with extremist views. Another letter from the Party also said, apparently,
that Fromm was working with Gamble in the World Anti-Communist League during
the mid-1980s. Gamble was the North American Chairman of the World Anti-
Communist League and was the subject of an article in "This" Magazine. He said
that Don Blenkarn and others in the Conservative Party were also mentioned
as supporters of the League." <END>

Is McVay trying to link "extremist views" to being an anti-communist and a
conservative? You all decide.

Here are archives where Nizkor's Ken McVay and his master B'nai Brith condemn
anti-communists:

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/bc/university-of-victoria/hatred-in-canada/B-Winn.html
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_BnaiBrith)
Combatting Hatred in Canada
"Hatred is defined in the New Edition: The Concise Oxford Dictionary as: "active
dislike; enmity; rejection and ill will." ... It is difficult to record and
determine the extent of hate-motivated activities because they are not
systematically collected and reported on. Organizations such as the League for
Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada actively seek out this information... Most
acts of right-wing violence were acts committed by individuals unaffiliated or
not claiming membership with a particular group, or by groups not wishing to be
publicly identified by their actions. The bulk of actions for which a culprit
could be found have been executed in recent years by... anti-communist
nationalists..."

Anti-communism is associated with hate.

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/canadian/canada/justice/hate-motivated-violence/hmv-002-00
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: nizkor_BnaiBrith2)
Shofar FTP Archive File
"In researching the issue of hate-motivated criminal conduct, this study
examined existing criminal law practice in Canada and certain foreign
jurisdictions, relevant case law, legal periodicals relating to the topic,
government publications (e.g., in England, documents published by the Home
Office), proposals for reform in this area by national reform-minded
agencies (e.g., the Law Reform Commission of Australia), publications by
interested private organizations (e.g., the League for Human Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada and the American Anti-Defamation League),... Most acts of
right-wing violence were acts committed by individuals unaffiliated or not
claiming membership with a particular group, ...while the remainder are equally
divided between neo-fascist groups, such as... anti-communist nationalists.."

Seems anti-communism is hateful in some people's eyes and they ignore the truth
communism has murdered, enslaved, and tortured far more people than the Nazis or
anyone else! If Nizkor ET AL condemns Nazis then why are they protective of
communists?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ncu5gvoc1nga0k933sgt0sbtglrv1nlb4e%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Communist Holocaust Has Killed Over 100 Million People
Message-ID: <ncu5gvoc1nga0k933...@4ax.com>
Date: 2 Jul 2003 15:33:38 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3hv5gvookmlibha49ph75epk0dsk0do02l%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Communist Holocaust Killed Tens of Millions of People! (Vintage Post
With Re-Vitalized Links) R_0702
Message-ID: <3hv5gvookmlibha49...@4ax.com>
Date: 2 Jul 2003 16:36:00 GMT

Moving on:

http://www.track0.com/cc/articles/022802racism.html
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: 022802racism)
The New Generation of Organised Racialism in Canada
"..the radical-right organizations were.. anti-communist, anti-immigration,
anti-foreign aid, anti-world government, anti-egalitarian, anti-homosexual,
anti-feminist, and anti-abortion... Most of the fringe-right organizations were
also anti-communist..."

Now you're compared to racists if you have anti-communist sentiments. I guess
all the people who escaped from communist countries are racists and hate-mongers
for being anti-communist. I have never read a report about anyone escaping a
"communist worker's utopia" not ever being an anti-communist!

http://timelines.ws/20thcent/1953.HTML
(Link active July 13, 2003. Archived locally as: ADL_1953)
"1953 Nov 23, While receiving an award for his contributions to civil rights
from the B'nai Brith's Anti-Defamation League, President Dwight Eisenhower
spontaneously denounced the tactics of fellow Republican Joseph McCarthy,
asserting the right of everyone to meet his "accuser face to face." A vehement
anti-Communist, Senator McCarthy led a long series of secret and public hearings
on the role of Communism in the American government and society..(HNQ, 6/18/98)"

<<Where is a Joe McCarthy now that we need him and BTW Joe McCarthy was right
about Hollywood being a communist haven too!>>

I thought communism is/was an oppressor of Jews so why would the world's largest
(as claimed by many) Jewish organization [B'nai Brith] be against an
anti-communist? Check out this archive to see the great love affair B'nai Brith
has with communist(s):

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=urcsmv89j3002018867ssbakfc3g19mm87%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0921
Message-ID: <urcsmv89j30020188...@4ax.com>

The above archive has many of David Lethbridge anti-Christian, anti-American,
anti-Capitalism rants fully documented.

Back to Ken McVay and his "love" for communists:

Xref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=4eromv8qg1obdd2stih3j0m2op33m6vddj%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG's Director Ken McVay's Chinese Communists Harass, Imprison,
and Torture Christians Message-ID: <4eromv8qg1obdd2st...@4ax.com>

Link active February 20, 2003

http://www.house.gov/wolf/1998112AllTalk.htm
(Link dead now [September 22, 2003] BUT I did archive it locally as:
1998112AllTalk if anyone wants it complete with graphics etc.)

January 12, 1998
On International Religious Freedom, Administration is 'All Talk, No Action' Wolf
Says

Washington, D.C.: Rep. Frank R. Wolf (R-VA-10) today gave a special order on the
floor of the U.S. House of Representatives denouncing the Clinton Administration
for its failure to fund the Commission on International Religious Freedom
despite having signed the legislation into law.

"In his State of the Union address, it took President Clinton 77 minutes to list
a whole range of special initiatives for which he would be requesting funding
this year," Wolf said. "No mention of the commission, despite the fact that it
was supported by a large democratic constituency concerned about human rights
and the plight of those suffering for their faith."

A copy of his statement follows.

Special Order by Rep. Frank R. Wolf
February 12, 1999

[...]

Just two weeks ago in China, Public Security Bureau officials arrested two Roman
Catholic priests from Hebei province. These are just the latest two priests to
be arrested — dozens, if not hundreds, more bishops, priests, and laypeople are
already in prison. We know that torture is common. Last month the Vatican
reported that authorities tortured one Catholic priest by subjecting him to
sexual abuse by prostitutes. They tried videotaping the seduction to further
humiliate him and crush his spirit.

The Chinese government continues to arrest, torture, and harass leaders of
China's unofficial protestant church. Most of the key leaders are on the run for
their lives — moving from place to place to avoid being thrown in prison...

<END>

New addition September 22, 2003 from Representative Frank Wolf's web site
concerning China:

http://www.house.gov/wolf/issues/hr/china.html
(Archived locally as: wolf_china)

China

State Department Human Rights Report
Laogai Research Foundation - Information on slave labor camps in China
Cardinal Kung Foundation - Information on persecution of the underground Roman
Catholic Church in China.
Information on May 23, 2003 hearing on China

The people of China do not have the freedoms that you and I have as Americans.

The Department of State's 2002 Human Rights report documents many examples of
abuse the Government of China continues to commit. As one of the authors of the
International Religious Freedom Act, I have deep-rooted interest and concerns
about this fundamental freedom that we enjoy in this country.

Here are some examples from the Human Rights report:

• The Chinese government continues to arrest Catholic bishops and priests,
Protestant pastors and evangelicals for practicing their faith or worshiping
outside government control. Based on the latest reports provided to me, there
are approximately 22 bishops of the underground Roman Catholic Church in China
either arrested and in prison labor or under house arrest. These and other
religious minorities are routinely harassed, beaten and tortured.

• The Chinese government has intensified its crackdown on the people of Tibet -
stealing the very soul and culture of Tibet. Monks and nuns continue to be
beaten, imprisoned and, sometimes, killed...

In addition, the government closed Christian churches, ...which resisted state
control, and arrested clergy and laity who refused to comply with government
edicts.

That’s just in the area of religious freedoms. Here are some more examples:

• North Korean refugees hiding in Northeast China and whose only crimes consist
of trying to escape a brutal regime systematically starving them into submission
are not only repatriated back to North Korea, but bounties are offered to hunt
them down.

• The Chinese government has a thriving business of harvesting and selling human
organs from executed prisoners for transplant. <<Tavish comment: Israel does the
same thing. See the link just below on how they kill Palestinians and harvest
their organs to seel on the world market!!>

• China maintains a system of gulags - slave labor camps - as large as existed
in the Soviet Union. They’re still used for brainwashing and “re-education
through labor.”

There are more slave labor camps in China than there were in the Soviet Union.

<END>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BONUS!! Here is what the Soviet Bolsheviks did to Christians:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=5ptrmvcjlgiai9pf8...@4ax.com&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=19&as_minm=9&as_miny=2002&as_maxd=22&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2003&hl=en
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) Newly
Expanded 09-21-2003 R_0921
Message-ID: <5ptrmvcjlgiai9pf8...@4ax.com>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is Israel and their body parts operation:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3nhkivgp658q7bj95kg919aiaucnumu290%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants
Message-ID: <3nhkivgp658q7bj95...@4ax.com>

Here is Jewish Senator Dianne Feinstein arranging the sell of American Naval
bases to the Chinese Communists and her husband making deals with Chi-Coms (a
starting point):

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=verhcv0imii1df798olcvvaqg0ls1rpeuh%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Re: my open challenge to all takers
Message-ID: <verhcv0imii1df798...@4ax.com>

(Everyone be sure to take notice that the above archive was forged canceled by
my opposition which doesn't want the above widely known! I have posted the facts
about Senator Feinstein and her love affairs with Chi-Coms and the above is the
only posts which got archived!!!)

The above is how Communist Chinese treat Christians and here is NIZKOR.ORG's
director, Ken McVay, who thinks he's a champion of HUMAN RIGHTS attitude on the
Communist Chinese:

Xref:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s71b2vk0o1r8r7dnk8n3ijlldct647par9%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR Director Ken McVay in Bed With Communists...
Message-ID: <s71b2vk0o1r8r7dnk...@4ax.com>
(Excerpt)

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:27:47 GMT, <7soT9.302$q%3.158...@news.nnrp.ca>
kmc...@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote:

>Subject: Re: SCOTT BRADBURY IS AN IDIOT

Name call and personal attack is all you can reply with when you can't refute my
self evident truths. Everyone will compare what you say to what I post and those
who are objective will see who has their facts and documentation in order and
who can properly defend their position and who can't defend their position thus
having to rely on smear and personal attacks.

>Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/

The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
1-250-616-9431
1-416-966-0461

>X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001)
>From: kmc...@vex.net (Ken McVay)
>Lines: 36
>Message-ID: <7soT9.302$q%3.158...@news.nnrp.ca>
>Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:27:47 GMT
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.126.72.25
>X-Trace: news.nnrp.ca 1042158467 216.126.72.25
>(Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:27:47 EST)
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:27:47 EST
>
>>Seeing how you hate Nazis for all the deaths they caused in the 20th
>>Century; it would only be logical you would be against a person who
>>embraces an ideology which has killed and is killing even more people.
:
>Like, er, Democracy, for example?

Communism, which you are very soft on, is NOT Democracy. One prime example out
of countless examples is the Demonstration for Democracy students had at
Tiananmen Square in China complete with a Statue of Liberty replica in which the
communist troops ran them over with tanks. Hardly democracy. You know how many
concentration camps the Nazis had but do you want to contemplate how many
concentration camps the Chinese Communists have for political prisoners in which
they are used as slave labor? Do you want to contemplate how many political
prisoners are executed a month and their internal organs harvested and sold on
the open market or do you want to contemplate how many forced abortions occur a
month in Communist China which you defend in this post I am now replying to?

>>You don't sense a slight bit of hypocrisy on your part? Communism still
>>has over a billion people enslaved today and Nazism does not exist as
>>a political entity.
:
>That's funny.... I've met a large number of students from Mainland
>China who don't feel the least bit "enslaved."

Those students are the offspring of the ruling elite and they are not the common
Chinese citizens.

>Do you suppose they know something you don't?

They know they are learning "our ways" so they can let their elitist parents
know about us so it could be used against us down the road as other people
hostile to North America have done and are still doing.

>They are, strangely enough, all from wealthy Chinese families...
>wealthy Capitalist families, from all over China.

That is a real hoot! The "wealthy Capitalist families, from all over China" are
the ruling elites NOT the common citizens! Of course in every communist
"dictatorship of the proletariat" the rulers or leaders have wealth, cars,
decent houses etc BUT the subservients don't! To say capitalism actually exists
in a communist country shows how divorced from reality you are.

[...]

>They would look at you as if you were a fool. Come to think of it,
>that makes perfect sense - you ARE a fool.

Just like someone who beds down with communist ideology to mock and ridicule an
anti-communist. You and your funding arm, B'nai Brith are on record for showing
hostility toward anti-communists as these archives show:

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/christian-identity/religion-white-racists.html
Christian Identity: A Religion for White Racists
"...Christians sometimes connect with this movement because of Identity's
espousal of issues such as right-to-life and anti-Communism. Because of this
vulnerability it is important for Christians to know and understand Identity's
false and racist teachings.... Another speaker used by most groups is Lt. Col.
Jack Mohr, whose specialty is anti-Communism." <END>

What is wrong with right-to-life or being "Pro-Life" and being an
anti-communist? You do NOT have to follow Christian Identity
(which I am not a follower of) to have those beliefs. What is wrong
with being an anti-communist Ken? Are you therefore pro-communist?

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/canadian/sirc/heritage-front/hf-i-overview.html
The Heritage Front Affair
Report to the Solicitor General of Canada
Security Intelligence Review Committee
December 9, 1994

http://www1.us.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/d/darville.helen/press/press-summary
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/d/darville.helen/press/press-summary
Message-ID: <20E5F...@edus2.educ.monash.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 21:12:14 CDT
Reply-To: History of Antisemitism List
Sender: History of Antisemitism List
From: Paul Gardner R313 x52854
Subject: The Demidenko/Darville affair

B'nai B'rith District 21 (Australia and New Zealand)
B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation Commission
Research Division

"Demidenko's mind-set, inherited one imagines from her
upbringing, is the result of anti-Communism..." <END>

The person mentioned is being raked over the coals by
B'nai Brith and its attack dog Nizkor!

Can anyone show any archive where B'nai Brith or Nizkor has
ever condemned communism out right? Can anyone show any archives
where B'nai Brith or its attack dog Nizkor has ever shown any
leaning toward anti-communism?

Here is a Nizkor archive which compares a conservative to fascism:

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/buchanan-pat/berlet-01.html
Buchanan & Fascism: A Serious Look
"The Roots of the Culture War
Spanning the breadth of the antidemocratic hard right is the banner of the
Culture War. The idea of the Culture War was promoted by strategist Paul
Weyrich of the Free Congress Foundation. In 1987, Weyrich commissioned a
study, Cultural Conservatism: Toward a New National Agenda, which argued
that cultural issues provided antiliberalism with a more unifying concept
than economic conservatism. Cultural Conservatism: Theory and Practice
followed in 1991... The Christian Coalition could conceivably evolve into
a more mainstream conservative political movement, or--especially if the
economy deteriorates--it could build a mass base for fascism similar to
the clerical fascist movements of mid-century Europe. For decades
anti-communism was the glue that bound together the various tendencies on
the right. Ironically, the collapse of communism in Europe allowed the US
political right to shift its primary focus from an extreme and hyperbolic
anti-communism... dominate the right wing of the Republican Party, and
included Patrick Buchanan, Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum, Pat Robertson's
Christian Coalition, the Rockford Institute, David Noebel's Summit
Ministries, and Paul Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation and Institute for
Cultural Conservatism. Of more historical importance are the John Birch
Society, the Christian Anti-Communism Crusade..." <END>

Doesn't it seem like Nizkor director Ken McVay's favorite color would be RED?
Why is "anti-communism" shown in a negative light at his B'nai Brith funded
web site?

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/b/bellant.russ/bellant.conclu
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/b/bellant.russ/bellant.conclu
"The record to date leads to the conclusion that the
Republican National Committee and the network around the American
Security Council and World Anti-Communist League may consider it
forgivable to have been a fascist collaborator so long as one is
today an active anti-communist pursuing the maintenance of the
Cold War in foreign policy and extremist right-wing politics at
home." <END>

Ken McVay definitely does not like anti-communists!

"If communism and fascism both lead to the same end, ie. totalitarianism, Why is
it that anyone who challenges and exposes international fascism is "good", and
anyone who challenges and exposes international communism is "bad"?"
http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/anticom/comweb.htm
"...Beware of any organization that champions equality but only denounces
fascism. Communism has enslaved far more people than fascism. Any organization
that condemns fascist atrocities while denying or ignoring communist atrocities
is most certainly a communist organization. Remember also that "equality" to a
communist means the equality of slavery."
http://www.niagara.com/~freedom/anticom/first.htm

Here is a well known observation by Jeff Jacoby of the Boston Globe which has
seen wide distribution:

http://www.physics.ncat.edu/~michael/vses/eth4000/victim.html
TO THE VICTIMS OF COMMUNISM, LEST WE FORGET
By Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
December 7, 1995

In 1993, President Clinton signed Public Law 103-199, authorizing a memorial
in Washington to those who died in the ``unprecedented imperial Communist
holocaust'' that began in 1917. It is a memorial long overdue. And it is
well-suited to Washington, the capital of the Free World and the headquarters
of what President Kennedy called the ``long twilight struggle'' against the
totalitarians of the Left. When completed, the Victims of Communism Memorial
will include a museum documenting the crimes committed by the disciples of
Marx and Lenin; original artifacts from the bitter night of Communist
brutality (a piece of the Berlin Wall, a cell from the ``Hanoi Hilton'');
and a database preserving the names of those wiped out in history's greatest
slaughter.

Or at least as many of those names as can be identified. It is impossible
that we shall ever know them all. Every one of the hundreds of thousands of
Cossacks butchered on Lenin's orders in 1919? Every Miskito Indian killed in
Nicaragua under the Sandinistas? Every Chinese peasant, all 2 million-plus
of them, obliterated during Mao Zedong's ``land reform'' in the early 1950s?
Impossible.

For pure murderous evil, there has never been a force to compare with
Communism. The Nazis didn't come close. The Holocaust was uniquely malignant
- never before or since did one people construct a vast industry of death
for the sole purpose of rounding up and destroying every single member of
another people. But the Nazis exterminated 11 million innocents; the
Communist death toll surpasses 100 million. Nazi power lasted from 1933 to
1945. The Communist nightmare began in November 1917, and continues to this
day.

Savagery has always been a hallmark of Communism. It is an ideology that
requires the destruction of human beings. ``We have never rejected terror in
principle,'' wrote Lenin in 1901, ``nor can we do so.''...

Need I say more? The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith and their attack dog
Ken McVay ignore communist atrocities against Christians (and capitalists) and
they are on record as supporting communists morally and financially.

Need I say more?
Tavish

---
>I ask-- why do we never see Jews criticize the communism
>which existed before Stalin took control?

"Because there was very little to criticize."
Susan Cohen - January 24, 2001
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