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Soviets (Communists) Were Jews as Proven by BOOLEAN Operands (Classic Repost from 3-31-2000) Abridged Version R_0516

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Erich VonTavischen

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May 16, 2003, 2:36:09 AM5/16/03

Classic repost illustrating double standards of my opposition and their
countering my FACT with lies and smear. I updated the internal DEJA-COM links to
working GOOGLE links.

From: "Doc Tavish" <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com>
Subject: --->Soviets (Communists) Were Jews as Proven by BOOLEAN Operands<---
Date: 2000/03/31
Message-ID: <8c172...@news1.newsguy.com>

On 8-Nov-1999, "pgroff" <pgr...@prodigy.net> wrote:

> Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMdanetwork.com> wrote in message
> news:805dni$4...@news1.newsguy.com...
> >
> > Doc Tavish wrote:
> > From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
> > Bantam #13084-6 says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
> > anti-Semitic prejudices of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
> > and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
> > harnessed the violent energies of these willing collaborates to round
> > up and kill Jews."
:
> Well shitmaster, doc tavish, scott bradbury, or what ever name you use,

Making personal attack and name calling won't win your arguments. This
seems to be all you liberally oriented people seem to do when faced with
cold hard factual truths.

> read it again. " Eploiting the superstitious anti-Semitic prejudices(that one) of
> the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians "AND" (quotes and caps mine)
> activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets,(thats two)[...]
>
> Thus logically you haven't proven your argument. You did attempt to twist
> the argument to suit your answer, but again you let your sock puppet do your
> reading.

By BOOLEAN logic Soviets were Jews. For Soviets to NOT be Jews the
expression or operative known as the NOT AND or NAND function in some
form would have to have been used instead of your own acknowledged use
of the AND expression. Touche' you lose!

If believing what you believe makes you feel secure then more power to you
but I still ask how could the above named people have been anti-Semitic
toward Soviets if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews?

To see how another denier can't come to grips with the truth about Jews
and their undeniable links to communism:

Subject: Nizkor's Dawidowicz Paradox aka Re: Tribute to Tavish
Date: 01/31/2000
Author: Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com>
Message-ID: <873ha6$eib$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net>

On 30-Jan-2000, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

> [routine vomit from "Doc Tavish"]

I only quoted what a Jewish author wrote!

> >Oh Mr Tavish ( I presume the "Doc" is a nickname. I cannot imagine a doctor
> >writing the nonsense you do) If you really believe the shit that you have written
> >here then you are one sick wierdo. Better see a shrink!
:
> Nizkor has devoted a page to "Doc Tavish," in order to make his role
> on this sphere plain: <Smear link deleted. McVay would rather lie and
> smear than refute what I posted on a factual basis>
>
> Simply place the word "Tavish" in your killfile or news filter, and
> you will have joined the many others who have tucked him away in his
> proper place.

Is that your answer for how you will accept Dawidowicz's writings under one
circumstance but totally ignore and dodge her other writings such as the ones
below? You are a coward and you have not one bit of intellectual honesty. All
of the above comments are typical from Jews and their poltroons when their
own double standards and rotten evil deceit is exposed before one and all.

I ask you again Ken- do you wish to deny Dawidowicz's writings now in my
case when you have found her credible enough in the past to quote? We are
afterall quoting the same Lucy Dawidowicz!

Doc Tavish
> --
> The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
> Ken McVay, Director: http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay

On 17-Jan-2000, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

> Archive/File: holocaust/england/irving irving.07
> Last-modified: 1993/12/18
> XRef: irving index
>
> The following is from "The Holocaust and the Historians," by Lucy
> Dawidowicz. The book was published by Harvard University Press. The
> material is taken from pp 34-38.
>
> "This Wicked Man Hitler"

[...]

Hey Ken if you are ready to accept Dawidowicz's words above then are you
going to accept what she says about Jews below or are you going to cut n run
again?

Here is Jewish professor at Yeshiva University, Lucy Dawidowicz on Jewish
loyalty to the Soviets (Is she lying?):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3337069A.1AC9%40phoenix.net&rnum=1
Subject: Communism and Links to Jewry as Told by Lucy Dawidowicz
Date: 1997/03/24
Message-ID: <333706...@phoenix.net>

Lucy S. Dawidowicz
THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS 1933-1945
by Bantam Books Incorporated (#13084-6, 1979 ed).
The book's "Acknowledgments" starts with: "This book had its genesis in a course
I developed at the suggestion of Rabbi David Mirsky, Dean of Stern College for
Women, Yeshiva University [New York, New York 10033-3201 -- I added the address-
it was not in the original text. Tavish]. ...I am indebted to the Yivo Institute
for Jewish Research, the Blaustein Library of the American Jewish Committee..."

Page 356 states: "In early 1942 the Polska Partia Robotnicza [PPR], the
Communist party in a new guise made its appearance in the
Generalgouverne-ment..."

The PPR is mentioned again on page 431 where we read: "The Soviet Union, for
example, began in 1943 to back only such indigenous Communist resistance
movements in the several East European countries as would provide it with
postwar political footholds there.
.. The Soviet Union, for its part, through the PPR supported the People's Army
with funds and materiel, on the calculation that it would establish the
Communist presence in postwar Poland."

For further proof of Jewry's communistic ties turn to page 434 [bottom] and read
the socialist and communist links : "The [Jewish Labor] Bundists were cut off
from contact with Polish Socialists; the Jewish Communists were isolated from
their parent PPR." [The PPR is mentioned above. Tavish]

The Jewish Judenrat leadership advised, starting on page 436: "One form of
compromise between ghetto and the resistance movement was the option in
Eastern areas for the Jewish youth to join the Soviet partisan movement. ... The
first thing the partisan learned, if he lived long enough, was that in defense
of the Soviet Union no human cost was too high."

[Who were these Jews loyal to? Tavish]

Page 360 "Early in 1941 the Bund's Central Committee in the Warsaw ghetto
sent a report to its New York organization, describing its functions as it then
perceived them... [Communists have a New York operation! Tavish] the Bund's
Central Committee adopted a policy statement setting forth their political hopes
and expectations:

Poland is our homeland, where we are entitled to equal
citizenship rights, where our future lies. . . . Any other
Solutions offered, under present conditions, by Zionist
or other Jewish groups, are wrong and utopian, as they
always were. Together with the Polish working masses
struggling underground, the Jewish people of Poland
see no other means of survival, but the defeat of Hitlerism
and the reconstruction of a free, independent, and Socialist
Poland."

[Jews want a Socialist Poland and they got it after WW II. Tavish]

Page 361-2 "On May 1, 1941, Dror issued a proclamation that avowed once
more the movement's dual loyalty to Palestine and socialism and which held
out the hope of the inevitable realization of a socialist Palestine:

The struggle with the Hitlerite conqueror has temporarily
separated us from Eretz Israel, but just as there
is no power in the world that can separate us from the
struggle for a socialist world, thus nothing can separate
us from the land of our ultimate hope. The building of
Eretz Israel is undeniably connected with the collapse
of capitalism; a socialist Eretz Israel will rise or fall
with the success or failure of socialism."

[For the Jews to succeed capitalism needs to collapse!
Read this over and over many times to let it sink in! Tavish]

Page 362 " At the end of December 1943, a representative of the Left Labor
Zionists, taking part in a clandestine meeting of the underground Polish
Communist front, Krajowa Rada Narodowa [People's Home Council] spoke
of victory with the political certitude of her party:

In the struggle for a new world of labor and of social
justice, we are not isolated. The working masses of the
whole world, with the heroic Red Army in the vanguard,
are with us. Our struggle is their struggle; their
victory shall be our victory. There can be no return to
the past, no turning back to the past reactionary and
fascist governments. The working masses, the invincible
forces of progress and true democracy will prevail in
this historic struggle. Maintaining the traditions of the
movement became a conspiratorial activity, yet served to
uphold morale. May Day 1940 in Lodz fell on the day the Jews
were enclosed within the ghetto. That day Bundist activists
visited as many members as they could locate,
reminding them of May Day, distributing little red ribbon
boutonnieres, and passing the word: "Hold on and hold out."
In January 1942 Dror proclaimed a fundraising campaign in
the Warsaw ghetto on behalf of the Jewish National Fund...

[Page 356 says of Dror: "The socialist Zionist youth movements included Dror,
associated with Labor Zionists; Hashomer Hatzair, whose pro-Sovietism brought
it ideologically close to the Left Labor Zionists.." The Jewish National Fund is
still in America today! The JNF Fax # is: 1-414-963-8744 Tavish]

Page 333 says: "Jewish National Fund- the major fund- raising organization for
Palestine.] Page 363 "... Bundists and Left Labor Zionists jointly organized
several strikes and demonstrations, as they had occasionally done before the
war. But party sovereignty persisted along with ideological divisiveness. In a
report of March 16, 1942, sent abroad [United States?], the Bund gave its
version of the political disharmony in the ghettos:

The Bund's and the Tsukunft's competitors show no
concern for the fate of the land where they live. The
Left Labor Zionists and the youngsters of the Hehalutz
are prepared to relinquish their patrimony to the
neighbor to the East the USSR. In addition, in their
periodical writings, they dream of leaving for Palestine.
They minimize the importance of the Allies for the
future of their friends and our people. They tie their
only hope to the USSR. The remaining former competitors
[Aguda] passively await salvation. The Bund historically
held the Marxist view of society in class conflict, its
class-conscious bias denying the validity of national/ethnic
group conscious-ness."

~~~~~~~~END~~~~~~~~

Ken, Ms. Dawidowicz surely makes a case that Jews were the main
ones a spreadin' that communistic/socialism all over. Care to deny that
she didn't say all that I quoted? Care to deny that Jews are the primary
agents in the spreading of socialism/communism? You don't want me
to keep pointing out your hypocrisy do you? (I do like doing it!) Don't you
think Jews should start answering for their crimes against humanity?
Don't you believe the Bolshevists/Soviets perpetrated crimes against
humanity?

Doc Tavish

<END>

More posts featuring essential proofs offered by Lucy Dawidowicz:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3512c548.337072059%40news.smart1.net&rnum=1
Subject: Polish Citizens Had Pogroms Because They Knew What Was Being Plotted
Against Them! .>
Date: 1998/03/20
Message-ID: <3512c548....@news.smart1.net>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=pk9davs1tbr4ao3qkk0o4em6drgkdrm3v8%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Rumanians "NIZKORED" Too! They Thought Payback Was Good! R_0423
Message-ID: <pk9davs1tbr4ao3qk...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=uv887vsdg34sdvf1skrif9hsms0jimn9iq%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Post-War Poland -- Nation was Completely Dominated by Jewish Communists
(Classic Repost) R_0316
Message-ID: <uv887vsdg34sdvf1s...@4ax.com>

----The Book Quoted and How To Get It:

http://www.amazon.com/
The War Against the Jews : 1933-1945
by Lucy S. Dawidowicz

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Also see:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=8crutt0p1v%40news2.newsguy.com&rnum=2
Subject: --->The Founding Myths of Israel: Nationalism, Socialism, and the
Making of the Jewish State<---
Date: 2000/04/10
Message-ID: <8crut...@news2.newsguy.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=jH3%253.8535%2416.1003257%40news.flash.net&rnum=1
Subject: Jewish role in Ukrainian holocaust: non-PC history lesson
Date: 1999/11/25
Message-ID: <jH3%3.8535$16.10...@news.flash.net>

~~End of Classic Repost and Updating~~

Now for an added bonus:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

More info on my opponent (who can only use smear and lies against me rather than
FACTS) Ken McVay:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=2d50cvgavda0q5gugjvhrsjtgusjmg7cra%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Ken McVay's NIZKOR.ORG Has Aided and Abetted Communist David
Lethbridge! Why Does NIZKOR and B'nai Brith Embrace Communism? R_0512
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:47:50 -0500
Message-ID: <2d50cvgavda0q5gug...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=hdpn7v445bkpebmovcd0aul56eeemv4e8a%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Why Does NIZKOR/B'NAI BRITH Have Such Affection for Communists and
Why Would Anyone Who Values Freedom Give Them Donations?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 22:52:09 -0600
Message-ID: <hdpn7v445bkpebmov...@4ax.com>

--Nizkor.Org Director, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com

(For the record this child porn apologist is funded by B'nai Brith
as shown here: http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
B'nai Brith must condone pictures of "naked children" too!)

Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG-- does he
not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a person who
would say in general regarding child porn: "I am weary of seeing the
issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and
around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd
consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, ... and
fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
alone with your children?

----NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay's Numerous Lies Regarding His Funding----
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=07qc8vguuom77pvmugliksb3dmdf8pp82r%404ax.com&rnum=6
Subject: Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He
Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
Message-ID: <07qc8vguuom77pvmu...@4ax.com>
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:22 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=67qc8v8192tumoaivq4joitsquts3t5bs8%404ax.com&rnum=7
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V2.0
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:12 GMT
Message-ID: <67qc8v8192tumoaiv...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the Nizkor
Endowment and Trust Funds?
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:56:49 -0600
Message-ID: <rhao2v4fbuij94mcm...@4ax.com>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
Message-ID: <3e060...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e0608d2_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
Message-ID: <3e060...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:48:04 GMT

Tavish

---
>I ask-- why do we never see Jews criticize the communism
>which existed before Stalin took control?

"Because there was very little to criticize."
Susan Cohen - January 24, 2001
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=3A6F230F.3AFF4272%40his.com
Message-ID: <3A6F230F...@his.com>

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