Q: G3 266MHZ run OSX?
Jonathan Gift
I'm looking at a G3 266MHz with 256MB RAM, will it run OSX adequately?
That's without having to run any System 9 within. Just OSX apps?
TIA.
Jonathan
Jeff Collins
"Jonathan Gift" <nos...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> I'm looking at a G3 266MHz with 256MB RAM, will it run OSX adequately?
> That's without having to run any System 9 within. Just OSX apps?
Yep.
Jonathan Gift
> Yep.
Great. You remind me of that classic story on Gary Cooper. A reporter once
asked him of it was true he never gave long interviews. His answer... Yep.
Jonathan
Jonathan Gift
PS I'm reading horror stories here of OSX not working with this and that.
Should it work with the serial ports, modem, etc on the G3?
Thanks.
Jeff Collins
"Jonathan Gift" <nos...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
Ah, different question. I'm running OS X on a Beige G3/133. The serial
ports don't seem to work at all. I use ethernet, instead, for printing
and net connection. No problems. My SCSI scanner doesn't work either.
I just reboot into 9 when I need to scan something.
I'm not sure which graphic card is in your box, but the one in the Beige
133 kinda sucks. I put in an ATI Rage-128VR and it works fine (even
runs OpenGL) once I downloaded the ROM updater from ATI.
Cheers,
Jeff
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"Jonathan Gift" <nos...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
My setup:
Beige G3 266 overclocked to 300
512 meg
2 20 gig drives
DVD-ROM
Radeon PCI video card
USR 56k serial fax/modem
external SCSI zip drive
Microtec scanner (won't work under OS X)
Wired4DVD hardware decoder (won't work under OS X)
firewire card
USB card
Running Mac OS 10.1.3
Mac OS X runs very well on this machine. Does it feel slower then OS 9.
Yes, but I work faster and it never crashes.
Now, I'll admit some people have had trouble installing OS X on beige
machines. Some helpful hints:
You can only install OS X on the first 8 gigs of a disk. If your drive
is larger then 8 gig you need to divide it.
Disconnect any SCSI devices before attempting to install. That threw me
for a loop the first time I tired installing OS X. After I disconnected
the zip drive things went smoothly.
You might want to remove any third-party PCI cards. I didn't have a
problem with mine but others have.
I know the serial port for the modem works, can't tell you about the
printer. However, do not set your computer to automatically dial-up when
an application makes a TCP/IP request. My computer was always trying to
dial-up on it own. Some UNIX process kept on searching for a connection
at odd hours of the day and night. Now that I have DCL it's not a
problem but it's something to watch out for.
Apple's DVD player will work with a patch under MacOS X if you have a
ATI 128 or Radeon video card. Does a good job too just don't try running
anything else while it plays. Do not buy the Radeon 7000 PCI card. It
won't run on beige G3s running Mac OS X.
With Mac OS 10.1.3 my SCSI CD-R burner now works Toast but my scanner is
still dead and most likely will remain so since Microtek isn't
interested in making drivers.
Gordon B. Alley
Jeff Collins <col...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <a5e3lr$6ur$2...@wanadoo.fr>,
> "Jonathan Gift" <nos...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> > Yep.
>>
>> PS I'm reading horror stories here of OSX not working with this and that.
>> Should it work with the serial ports, modem, etc on the G3?
>
>Ah, different question. I'm running OS X on a Beige G3/133. The serial
>ports don't seem to work at all. I use ethernet, instead, for printing
>and net connection. No problems. My SCSI scanner doesn't work either.
>I just reboot into 9 when I need to scan something.
>
>I'm not sure which graphic card is in your box, but the one in the Beige
>133 kinda sucks. I put in an ATI Rage-128VR and it works fine (even
>runs OpenGL) once I downloaded the ROM updater from ATI.
Also, OS X doesn't support the floppy drive or the audio/video in/out,
IIRC.
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Jonathan Gift
talking about, I don't have alot of choice in teh changing hardware
components department. But it's comforting to know it works, on the whole,
at your speeds. That was my main concern.
Thanks again.
Jonathan
Jonathan Gift
> Also, OS X doesn't support the floppy drive or the audio/video in/out,
> IIRC.
On the PowerBook G3 266MHz?
Thanks,
Jonathan
Cathy Stevenson
wrote:
> > Also, OS X doesn't support the floppy drive or the audio/video in/out,
> > IIRC.
>
> On the PowerBook G3 266MHz?
There is no floppy drive support in OS 10 for any computer model.
Cathy
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Victor Eijkhout
> Great. You remind me of that classic story on Gary Cooper. A reporter once
> asked him of it was true he never gave long interviews. His answer... Yep.
And another reporter sent him a telegram "How Old Gary Cooper" to which
he replied "Old Gary Cooper Fine".
V.
dmeyer...@panix.com
> My setup:
> Beige G3 266 overclocked to 300
> 2 20 gig drives
> You can only install OS X on the first 8 gigs of a disk. If your drive
> is larger then 8 gig you need to divide it.
>
> Disconnect any SCSI devices before attempting to install. That threw me
> for a loop the first time I tired installing OS X. After I disconnected
> the zip drive things went smoothly.
That's an interesting observation. I'd removed my internal (scsi)
zip since I never used it anyway, and stuck a 40G IDE drive in
place of the original 4G, but even after partitioning it so that
I could put the first partition in the first 8G, Mac OS X wouldn't
install -- so I've simply been leaving OS X on the external 4G
scsi drive that has been connected to the machine the whole time.
Perhaps the reason it wouldn't install was the presence of that
external scsi drive? Weird, and if that's the case, absurd, but
well, it is scsi.
Meanwhile, the thing works like a charm with / on the external
4G and all the user directories on the larger partition of
the internal 40G.
> You might want to remove any third-party PCI cards. I didn't have a
> problem with mine but others have.
> I know the serial port for the modem works, can't tell you about the
> printer. However, do not set your computer to automatically dial-up when
I stopped using the serial ports completely when I got a
USB PCI card. Works like a charm, but I wasn't saddled with
any older serial-only hardware (that I cared about).
> With Mac OS 10.1.3 my SCSI CD-R burner now works Toast but my scanner is
> still dead and most likely will remain so since Microtek isn't
> interested in making drivers.
Canon hasn't released (at least as of a month ago or so)
any OS X drivers for my scanner, either. It works just fine
under classic.
Mine's a beige 266, too.
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Cathy Stevenson <cats...@bayarea.net> wrote:
> In article <a5fplt$sqa$1...@wanadoo.fr>, Jonathan Gift <nos...@wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
> > > Also, OS X doesn't support the floppy drive or the audio/video in/out,
> > > IIRC.
> >
> > On the PowerBook G3 266MHz?
>
> There is no floppy drive support in OS 10 for any computer model.
>
> Cathy
Are the usb external floppy drives that are available supported?
Scott
Joe Heimann
> In article <a5fplt$sqa$1...@wanadoo.fr>, Jonathan Gift <nos...@wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>> > Also, OS X doesn't support the floppy drive or the audio/video in/out,
>> > IIRC.
>>
>> On the PowerBook G3 266MHz?
> There is no floppy drive support in OS 10 for any computer model.
There is no floppy drive support for any of the built-in drives. OS X
does work with USB floppy drives.
Joe Heimann
Gordon B. Alley
"Jonathan Gift" <nos...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
Your message identifying the system as a PowerBook had not arrived on my
news server when I posted that remark. I have a PowerMac G3/266
Minitower (beige) with audio/video in/out, so I assumed you were
referring to that tower or the similar desktop model.
Cathy Stevenson
<asah...@mac.com> wrote:
Yes, but I don't know if all brands are supported.