Democrats listen up
Gary Lantz
get out in front and make sure that it all gets implemented tomorrow if not
sooner. It is time for all of them to get out of the way and approve
everything coming down the pike. Afterall if this country really likes Bush
this much, then what would be better than to give it to them. If they have
the confidence in this intellectual wizard, get behind him. Democrats
would be much more successful if they take a strategy like this as opposed
to what they have done in the last two years. The destroying of the country
and the world needs to have all the fingerprints of the greedy Republicans.
--
Gary Lantz
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/02/92.html
.Bithead.
wrote:
Are there any good Democrats?
I mean it. Are there any in this country at all? One? I gotta tell
ya....in watching political events in America, I'm fast coming to the
conclusion that there are no 'good Democrats'. No, not one.
OK, maybe I should define "good' for the purpose of this discussion.
By "good" I mean good for the country, and for the cuulture. I mean
those who are willing to put country over party, and honor over party.
And by that definition there are none. None. No, not one.
I know... you think that a pretty sweeping statement, and you're quite
right, it is. Yet, the evidence backing this statement has been
getting clearer, clear enough now that all but the most partisan
Democrats can see it.
Tell me; were there any Democrats who led the charge to get Al Gore to
sit down and shut up after he lost the last presidential election?
Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
There were none. No, not one.
Were there any Democrats who dared to suggest that Gore didn't play by
the rules in Florida? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Were there any Democrats who were willing to stand up and say that
sticking Lutenburg into Torrecelli's slot was against the law and
should not be pursued? Was there any who publicly denouced the party
for doing so? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
And for that matter, were the Democrats as to Torrecelli's criminal
acts? Were any willing to take him publicly to task? Any at all,
willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Were there any Democrats who denounced their fellow Democrats who
claimed that president George W. Bush had Paul Wellstone and his
family killed? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Were there any Democrats who dared to stand up against the criminal
Clinton White House, for the good of their country and the world? Any
at all, willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Were there any Democrats, who did not,in spite of all evidence, did
not defend Bill and Hillary Clinton, and shield them from the
consequences of their actions, so the damage to their party's power
would be minimized? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Were there any Democrats who spoke up against the DNC taking campaign
funding from their socialist brothers in Bejing? Any at all, willing
to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Were there any Democrats willing to speak out against Bill Clinton,
selling technology to China that would allow them to target missiles
against United States citizens? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Where are the good Democrats willing to stand up and be counted
against the constant scare tactics being employed by Democrats against
our elderly, as regards Social Security? Are there any? Any at all,
willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Where are the Democrats willing to say those in their party, who are
now arguing against our defending ourselves and the world, vis a vie
the war on terrorism, are wrong? Are there any at all? Any at all,
willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Is it any wonder why I say there are no good Democrats? Is it any
wonder why I say that Democrats are anti-American? Any at all?
None. No, not one.
Is there any Democrat who called for Newt Gingrich to get an apolgy
and his money back, from those fines he paid, before he was later
found innocent of all charges? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
None. No, not one.
Is there even ONE Democrat that gave back his $300 tax refund check
after critisizing the present administration, and calling the refunds
a 'measure that will break the balanced budget'?
None. No, not one.
The history is quite clear and rather sordid; It shows the Democrats
record of silence when their own commit crimes against America. This
'anything for political advantage' attitude goes back farther than the
Clinton cabal, but certainly their crimes, and the Defense of the
Democrats where their criminality is concerned, certainly provide
graphic example of the kind of evil we're talking about here... the
kind of evil that the Democrats have consistantly shown us.
Oh, I'm sure there are those who will insist that this is a bigot's
stand. Fine. Let's see how they fare with this.
I issue an open challange: Show me a Democrat who was willing to
stand up to his party... who was willing to openly and publicly
disagree with his party... who put the needs of the country over the
needs of his party.
Oh, I mean, of course other than James Trafficant, who, interestingly
was given the bum's rush by his party as soon as it was fairly
painless to do so... The real reason? He was caught once too often,
standing up to his party, of course. The message sent by the Democrats
to their own on this one was clear... Lockstep or you're history the
first chance we get.
I fully expect the silence in response to this challange to be utterly
staggering in scope. I have already issued this challange to the
partisans on Usenet and have come away empty.
How about it, Gary?
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wrote:
>Democrats ought to accept all Republican proposals. In fact they ought to
i have to agree. lets get the bad shit over and dealt with while
we're still alive folks. nothing's going to stop these people from
fulfilling their fucked up agenda, so why doesn't everyone just get
out of the way...
give 'em all the rope they need, i.o.w.s.
s.w.
Frank R
wrote:
>Democrats ought to accept all Republican proposals. In fact they ought to
The Democratic party machine will never allow this, they are to afraid
of the Bush agenda actually working and making them look like idiots.
That would be the final nail in the coffin of the Democratic party.
Guess its always better to be called an obstructionist than an idiot.
Dave Lister
news:gj4n1v0kbe73ka015...@4ax.com:
> I mean it. Are there any in this country at all? One? I gotta tell
> ya....in watching political events in America, I'm fast coming to the
> conclusion that there are no 'good Democrats'. No, not one.
Funny, I feel exactly this way about the Reptiles. There are no good
Repugs, no, not one.
Oh, to have a President with a 75+ IQ instead of GW Bush,
who says:
"I'm gonna talk about the ideal world, Chris. I've
read, I understand reality. If you're asking me
as the president, would I understand reality, I do."
"...when I put my hand on the Bible, I will
swear to not, to uphold the laws of the land"
eflorack
> .Bithead. <bit...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in
> news:gj4n1v0kbe73ka015...@4ax.com:
>
> > I mean it. Are there any in this country at all? One? I gotta tell
> > ya....in watching political events in America, I'm fast coming to the
> > conclusion that there are no 'good Democrats'. No, not one.
>
> Funny, I feel exactly this way about the Reptiles. There are no good
> Repugs, no, not one.
>
>
>
But I notice no answers to the questions....
Dave Lister
news:bd154db5.03010...@posting.google.com:
You're partisan hack against the Democrats, ignoring all the shitty things
the Reptiles have done since Reagan got in office doesn't deserve a
response.
--
Tempest
Dave Lister wrote:
>
> .Bithead. <bit...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in
> news:gj4n1v0kbe73ka015...@4ax.com:
>
> > I mean it. Are there any in this country at all? One? I gotta tell
> > ya....in watching political events in America, I'm fast coming to the
> > conclusion that there are no 'good Democrats'. No, not one.
>
> Funny, I feel exactly this way about the Reptiles. There are no good
> Repugs, no, not one.
John McCain almost qualifies as one.
> Oh, to have a President with a 75+ IQ instead of GW Bush,
> who says:
>
> "I'm gonna talk about the ideal world, Chris. I've
> read, I understand reality. If you're asking me
> as the president, would I understand reality, I do."
>
> "...when I put my hand on the Bible, I will
> swear to not, to uphold the laws of the land"
--
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness.
--John Kenneth Galbraith
GotOuttaIdaho
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:25:45 -0500, "Gary Lantz" <gar...@defnet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Democrats ought to accept all Republican proposals. In fact they ought to
> >get out in front and make sure that it all gets implemented tomorrow if not
> >sooner. It is time for all of them to get out of the way and approve
> >everything coming down the pike. Afterall if this country really likes Bush
> >this much, then what would be better than to give it to them. If they have
> >the confidence in this intellectual wizard, get behind him. Democrats
> >would be much more successful if they take a strategy like this as opposed
> >to what they have done in the last two years. The destroying of the country
> >and the world needs to have all the fingerprints of the greedy Republicans.
>
>
> Are there any good Democrats?
>
> I mean it. Are there any in this country at all? One? I gotta tell
> ya....in watching political events in America, I'm fast coming to the
> conclusion that there are no 'good Democrats'. No, not one.
>
> OK, maybe I should define "good' for the purpose of this discussion.
> By "good" I mean good for the country, and for the cuulture. I mean
> those who are willing to put country over party, and honor over party.
> And by that definition there are none. None. No, not one.
Find me a Republican who puts the good of the country ahead of the
good of Big Oil and Big Corporations, first. Bush, et al., are
willing to sacrifice peace, economic stability and Democracy to
achieve their ends: oil and power.
>
> I know... you think that a pretty sweeping statement, and you're quite
> right, it is. Yet, the evidence backing this statement has been
> getting clearer, clear enough now that all but the most partisan
> Democrats can see it.
Here are some more sweeping statements: The Republican party is the
party of racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic white males. The
Republican party wants a one-party system in this country. The
Republican party wants to take this country back to the 1950s - an era
they consider to be America's best, when Blacks and women knew their
places and men held all of the power at work, at home and in politics.
>
> Tell me; were there any Democrats who led the charge to get Al Gore to
> sit down and shut up after he lost the last presidential election?
> Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
And why should we? Did you Republicans tells Bush Sr., Newt and all
those other Republican angry white men to sit down and shut up after
Bill Clinton won - twice? We have a duty to block, impede, alter, cut
short and stomp on the Republican agenda; we must stop Bush and his
convicted criminal buddies and appointees from ruining this country.
>
> There were none. No, not one.
Nope, and I hope Al Gore continues to stick it to the Republicans.
>
>
> Were there any Democrats who dared to suggest that Gore didn't play by
> the rules in Florida? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
And how many Republicans demanded the honorable thing: a full recount
of the entire state of Florida. Not one; not an honorable man among
them. Bush and the Republicans were willing to take the election by
any means - illegally and unethically. And they had a corrupt
Republican majority in the Supreme Court to help them in case Jeb
couldn't quite get the vote rigged in favor of his brother.
>
> Were there any Democrats who were willing to stand up and say that
> sticking Lutenburg into Torrecelli's slot was against the law and
> should not be pursued? Was there any who publicly denouced the party
> for doing so? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
See above about our duty. For some strange reason, you seem to think
the Democrats should do what the Republicans tell them to do.
>
> And for that matter, were the Democrats as to Torrecelli's criminal
> acts? Were any willing to take him publicly to task? Any at all,
> willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
And did you Republicans take Newt Gingrich to task for using
government positions to push his Republican "education" project? Or
for his marital infidelities?
>
> Were there any Democrats who denounced their fellow Democrats who
> claimed that president George W. Bush had Paul Wellstone and his
> family killed? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
Because the jury is still out on that one. It is entirely possible
that Bush, et al., rubbed Wellstone out.
>
> Were there any Democrats who dared to stand up against the criminal
> Clinton White House, for the good of their country and the world? Any
> at all, willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
Criminal convictions in the Clinton administration: zero. Why don't
you look up the criminal records of the Bush appointees, such as
Poindexter.
>
> Were there any Democrats, who did not,in spite of all evidence, did
> not defend Bill and Hillary Clinton, and shield them from the
> consequences of their actions, so the damage to their party's power
> would be minimized? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
You Republicans seem pretty determined to protect Bush from the
consequences of his actions; in fact, he's been pretty well protected,
coddled, promoted and bailed out his entire life.
>
> Were there any Democrats who spoke up against the DNC taking campaign
> funding from their socialist brothers in Bejing? Any at all, willing
> to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
>
> Were there any Democrats willing to speak out against Bill Clinton,
> selling technology to China that would allow them to target missiles
> against United States citizens? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
Where's your rant about Bush Sr., Cheney and others providing weapons
(chemical and otherwise) to Saddam Hussein?
>
> Where are the good Democrats willing to stand up and be counted
> against the constant scare tactics being employed by Democrats against
> our elderly, as regards Social Security? Are there any? Any at all,
> willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
We don't have to - Bush is scaring them, and the rest of us, pretty
well all by himself.
>
> Where are the Democrats willing to say those in their party, who are
> now arguing against our defending ourselves and the world, vis a vie
> the war on terrorism, are wrong? Are there any at all? Any at all,
> willing to publicly do so?
>
> None. No, not one.
What war on terrorism? Bush is conducting a war on Democrats, on
women, on non-Christians and on Iraq, which had nothing whatsoever to
do with 911. He's forgotten all about bin Laden, and is afraid to
confront a foe more his own size like North Korea, which really does
have nukes.
>
> Is it any wonder why I say there are no good Democrats? Is it any
> wonder why I say that Democrats are anti-American? Any at all?
>
> None. No, not one.
It's a wonder you can read and write.
>
> Is there any Democrat who called for Newt Gingrich to get an apolgy
> and his money back, from those fines he paid, before he was later
> found innocent of all charges? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
>
>
> None. No, not one.
Newt deserved no apology - and should we go into detail here about his
wives?
>
>
> Is there even ONE Democrat that gave back his $300 tax refund check
> after critisizing the present administration, and calling the refunds
> a 'measure that will break the balanced budget'?
>
>
> None. No, not one.
And how on earth would you know that, Mr. Hyperbole?
>
>
> The history is quite clear and rather sordid; It shows the Democrats
> record of silence when their own commit crimes against America. This
> 'anything for political advantage' attitude goes back farther than the
> Clinton cabal, but certainly their crimes, and the Defense of the
> Democrats where their criminality is concerned, certainly provide
> graphic example of the kind of evil we're talking about here... the
> kind of evil that the Democrats have consistantly shown us.
>
> Oh, I'm sure there are those who will insist that this is a bigot's
> stand. Fine. Let's see how they fare with this.
>
> I issue an open challange: Show me a Democrat who was willing to
> stand up to his party... who was willing to openly and publicly
> disagree with his party... who put the needs of the country over the
> needs of his party.
>
> Oh, I mean, of course other than James Trafficant, who, interestingly
> was given the bum's rush by his party as soon as it was fairly
> painless to do so... The real reason? He was caught once too often,
> standing up to his party, of course. The message sent by the Democrats
> to their own on this one was clear... Lockstep or you're history the
> first chance we get.
>
> I fully expect the silence in response to this challange to be utterly
> staggering in scope. I have already issued this challange to the
> partisans on Usenet and have come away empty.
>
> How about it, Gary?
Ok, if I define a "good" Republican as one who cares more about the
poor than about corporations, cares more about Democracy than getting
Republicans elected, stands up to Bush and his idiotic, unjustified
warmongering, doesn't think cutting taxes is the solution to
everything, thinks Bush stole the 2000 election and is willing to open
a thorough investigation of 911, Bush's Harken insider trading, his
National Guard no show and his crooked land deals - think you can
provide an example?
Nope, not one.
mlw
eflorack
>
> Find me a Republican who puts the good of the country ahead of the
> good of Big Oil and Big Corporations, first.
Why, all of them, of course, or at least, the vast majority; your
fantasies not withstanding.
Bush, et al., are
> willing to sacrifice peace, economic stability and Democracy to
> achieve their ends: oil and power.
> Here are some more sweeping statements: The Republican party is the
> party of racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic white males.
Actually, there are more registered women, than men, in the party.
As to the rest, playing the race card again?
> The Republican party wants a one-party system in this country.
And the Democrats don't?
>The
> Republican party wants to take this country back to the 1950s - an era
> they consider to be America's best, when Blacks and women knew their
> places and men held all of the power at work, at home and in politics.
Again, fantasy.
>
> >
> > Tell me; were there any Democrats who led the charge to get Al Gore to
> > sit down and shut up after he lost the last presidential election?
> > Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
>
> And why should we? Did you Republicans tells Bush Sr., Newt and all
> those other Republican angry white men to sit down and shut up after
> Bill Clinton won - twice?
That he won the election was never in dispute.What WAs in dispute was
the criminal behavior exhibited by the DNC et al.
> We have a duty to block, impede, alter, cut
> short and stomp on the Republican agenda; we must stop Bush and his
> convicted criminal buddies and appointees from ruining this country.
Problem is, you have far less in the way of even speculation, much
less proof, that any criminal activity exists.
>
> >
> > There were none. No, not one.
>
> Nope, and I hope Al Gore continues to stick it to the Republicans.
Apparently, that's not the plan.
>
> >
> >
> > Were there any Democrats who dared to suggest that Gore didn't play by
> > the rules in Florida? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
> >
> > None. No, not one.
>
> And how many Republicans demanded the honorable thing: a full recount
> of the entire state of Florida.
They were smart enough to let the Democrats boil in the pudding they
themselves had made. They knew the facts came down to there not being
enough time to get a full recount in, under then existing Florida law;
IE they were playing by the rules.
Not one; not an honorable man among
> them. Bush and the Republicans were willing to take the election by
> any means - illegally and unethically. And they had a corrupt
> Republican majority in the Supreme Court to help them in case Jeb
> couldn't quite get the vote rigged in favor of his brother.
Again with the fantasy. The court was 100% Democrat....
Are the remainder of your comments as credible?
>
> >
> > Were there any Democrats who were willing to stand up and say that
> > sticking Lutenburg into Torrecelli's slot was against the law and
> > should not be pursued? Was there any who publicly denouced the party
> > for doing so? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
> >
> > None. No, not one.
>
> See above about our duty. For some strange reason, you seem to think
> the Democrats should do what the Republicans tell them to do.
No, I think they should do what the law tells them to do.
>
> >
> > And for that matter, were the Democrats as to Torrecelli's criminal
> > acts? Were any willing to take him publicly to task? Any at all,
> > willing to publicly do so?
> >
> > None. No, not one.
>
> And did you Republicans take Newt Gingrich to task for using
> government positions to push his Republican "education" project? Or
> for his marital infidelities?
Funny thing; There were some interesting outcomes tehre of which you
may not have heard. Cerainly the mainstream press didn't report it;
The Democrats on the ethics committee were forced to conclude Gingrich
had done nothing wrong, and Gingrich was exonerated there. I don't
recall Bonior doing the honorable thing, and apoliogizing and given
Newt his money back...
>
> >
> > Were there any Democrats who denounced their fellow Democrats who
> > claimed that president George W. Bush had Paul Wellstone and his
> > family killed? Any at all, willing to publicly do so?
> >
> > None. No, not one.
>
> Because the jury is still out on that one. It is entirely possible
> that Bush, et al., rubbed Wellstone out.
Comments about the proponants of such theories needing a serious
tinfoil hat readjustment aside, such charges certainly didn't win any
love on the part of the American people... particularly when it became
clear that the only people to benefit at all from Wellstone's demise,
were in fact, the Democrats.
What better way to rally the Democrats, than around a martyr? Hey, it
worked for Stalin, it worked for Hitler. It worked for the Democrats
after JFK's visit to Dallas. And the people's long-standing suspicion
about the long and officially
unexplained line of bodies behind the Democrats came to mind as we all
watched the DNC try to spin it all to their advantage.
>
> >
> > Were there any Democrats who dared to stand up against the criminal
> > Clinton White House, for the good of their country and the world? Any
> > at all, willing to publicly do so?
> >
> > None. No, not one.
>
> Criminal convictions in the Clinton administration: zero.
Lie.
Here's the Clinton record:
- The only president ever impeached strictly on grounds of personal
malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal
investigation -
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
That you defend this with the kin dof lie you just puked up, tells me
YOU have no honor, either. IE; you're a Democrat.
(remaining lies snipped)
.Bithead.
<retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>eflo...@rochester.rr.com (eflorack) wrote in
>news:bd154db5.03010...@posting.google.com:
>
>> Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:<rHPS9.8783$nJ6.7...@news2.west.cox.net>...
>>> .Bithead. <bit...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in
>>> news:gj4n1v0kbe73ka015...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>> > I mean it. Are there any in this country at all? One? I gotta tell
>>> > ya....in watching political events in America, I'm fast coming to
>>> > the conclusion that there are no 'good Democrats'. No, not one.
>>>
>>> Funny, I feel exactly this way about the Reptiles. There are no good
>>> Repugs, no, not one.
>>>
>> But I notice no answers to the questions....
>
>You're partisan hack against the Democrats, ignoring all the shitty things
>the Reptiles have done since Reagan got in office doesn't deserve a
>response.
I notice you don't list them.
And again, I note no answers to the questions....
.Bithead.
>
>
>Dave Lister wrote:
>>
>> .Bithead. <bit...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in
>> news:gj4n1v0kbe73ka015...@4ax.com:
>>
>> > I mean it. Are there any in this country at all? One? I gotta tell
>> > ya....in watching political events in America, I'm fast coming to the
>> > conclusion that there are no 'good Democrats'. No, not one.
>>
>> Funny, I feel exactly this way about the Reptiles. There are no good
>> Repugs, no, not one.
>
>John McCain almost qualifies as one.
You better ask catbox. He seems to feel he's one step shy of a storm
trouper, he's so conservative... LOL...
Chip C
> > Funny, I feel exactly this way about the Reptiles. There are no good
> > Repugs, no, not one.
>
> John McCain almost qualifies as one.
>
I campaigned for John McCain in 1984. I always considered him a hero
and thought he would make a good president. His support of the Iraq
War Resolution changed all that. He and other vets in the Congress
should know better than to let this crap go on.
--
Chip C
Personal site: http://www.chipcom.net/
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
president, or that we are to stand by the president
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
---Theodore Roosevelt
N9NWO
then they need to repeal the '94 assault rifle
and high capacity magazine bans as well as
the '86 machine gun ban. This would bring
back the working class voters.
In reality the democrats are now the party of
the elite and wealthy. The top ten most wealthy
senators are all democrats. If you do not have
a masters degree or a Ph.D then you really can
not say that you are a liberal. The democrats
have become very anti working class, especially
towards males who are not university educated.
Under Clinton, the feminists took control of the
party, pushing their form of pacifism. And most
of the party leadership are yuppies with strong
ties to feminizism.
"Gary Lantz" <gar...@defnet.com> wrote in message
news:v1m6klo...@corp.supernews.com...
: Democrats ought to accept all Republican proposals. In fact they ought to
:
:
Gary Lantz
"N9NWO" <n9...@amsat.org> wrote in message
news:avpjqj$lc3$1...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu...
> If the democrats really want to regain power
> then they need to repeal the '94 assault rifle
> and high capacity magazine bans as well as
> the '86 machine gun ban. This would bring
> back the working class voters.
>
> In reality the democrats are now the party of
> the elite and wealthy. The top ten most wealthy
> senators are all democrats. If you do not have
> a masters degree or a Ph.D then you really can
> not say that you are a liberal. The democrats
> have become very anti working class, especially
> towards males who are not university educated.
> Under Clinton, the feminists took control of the
> party, pushing their form of pacifism. And most
> of the party leadership are yuppies with strong
> ties to feminizism.
The people need to start electing more independents. With ten to twenty
independents they could end this partisan control of the issues. It may be
the place to start is on college campuses. Many colleges have enough people
that they could elect a representitive with only that vote if they all would
go to the polls. It is time for college people to spend their time trying
to do this instead of all the time spent running mock elections or voting
just for President.