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Capt. Neal®

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Jun 15, 2001, 8:05:51 PM6/15/01
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Dear Group,

Unless you live aboard your sailboat you are not really
capable of understanding what sailing is really all about.

Sailing is more than just an escape from the daily grind.
Sailing is more than just a getaway and a social opportunity
where you go down to the dock, posture and trade lies with the
other dock scum. Sailing is not something to do so you can
keep your sanity because you are burdened with all the
trappings of modern-day society, such as it is.

You people miss the point of sailing entirely when you speak
of it as just another 'activity'. Your minds are numb to the
possibility and fact that sailing is a complete lifestyle in
and of itself.

Yes, the complete sailor does not live ashore and 'escape' for
a few hours from time to time. Nay, a real sailor's entire
life revolves around his vessel which is his home, his
transportation, his love, his challenge, his sport, his
identity and his very lifeblood. You lubbers who visit your
boat which is tied up to a dock the majority of the time do
sailing a disservice by maintaining that you 'sail'. You don't
sail; you simply putz around!

You don't sail because sailing is not a part-time activity.
Rather, sailing is a full-time, life-sustaining raison d'être.
It really amazes me how perverted your thinking is. Here I am,
a real sailor who lives aboard, works ashore to further my
ability to live aboard and cruise to the far corners of the
world, and is about to call an end to the workaday world of
the common lubber and go sailing for the remainder of my days
and you cast aspersions on my lifestyle and goals. You people
are petty, jealous, pathetic simpletons who would not know a
sailor if you saw one.

Except for my posts, there is no real sailing content in this
group. You people are pompous, hypocrites who are too afraid
to work yourself out of your terrestrial slavery and domestic
servitude to engage in something you profess to love. This
also indicates that you are weak and whipped. How dare you
criticize me, Capt. Neal®, when you are so obviously inferior
in every way? How dare you not even consider the fact that you
are wasting your lives and using sailing as an escape instead
of living your lives by sailing as a lifestyle.

Allow me to make an observation as a closing comment. There
will be some who write to protest the content of this post.
Those who protest the loudest are the ones whom this post
describes the most. Therefore, you all would be well-advised
to just take my valid observations to heart in ashamed
silence.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Gilligan

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Jun 15, 2001, 8:28:06 PM6/15/01
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Good Captain,

How right you are. I just happen to recall a quote that is
apropos.

"Men for the sake of getting a living forget to live."
- Sarah Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850)


Gilligan


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Brian Grant

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Jun 15, 2001, 8:56:28 PM6/15/01
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Gilligan wrote:
>
> Good Captain,
>
> How right you are. I just happen to recall a quote that is
> apropos.
>
> "Men for the sake of getting a living forget to live."
> - Sarah Margaret Fuller (1810 - 1850)
>
That really is apropos Gilligan. First of all, it is by a woman and
very clearly one more intelligent than the craptain.

Does not the text perfectly describe a civil servant, in a dead end job,
wasting his life awaiting his pension.

Brian Grant

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:02:35 PM6/15/01
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"Capt. NealŽ" wrote:
>
> Dear Group,
>
> Unless you live aboard your sailboat you are not really
> capable of understanding what sailing is really all about.
>
Actually, if you are a liveaboard because you can't afford, or are too
cheap to buy, a real trailer it doesn't have anything to do with
sailing. The boat is simply an enclosure for a weak minded wage slave.

> Sailing is more than just an escape from the daily grind.

Yes. That is absolutely true as I and other real sailors know. Sailing
is actually the act of getting your boat underway, under sail and going
somewhere. Swinging around your mooring is not sailing and a daysail
out and back to your mooring is not much more.

Don White

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:03:54 PM6/15/01
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In the words of your famous fellow Floridian
'I know you are...but what am I?"

Capt. Neal® wrote:
>
> Dear Group,
>

> You people are petty, jealous, pathetic simpletons who would not know a sailor if you saw one.
>
>
>

> Respectfully,
> Capt. Neal
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jonathan Ganz

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:12:50 PM6/15/01
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Ok, so according to what you say, "Nay, a real sailor's entire

life revolves around his vessel which is his home, his
transportation, his love, his challenge, his sport, his
identity and his very lifeblood" makes a lot of sense. In
that case, why are you on this newsgroup. You certainly don't
sail. Perhaps you live aboard a boat, though I seriously doubt
even that.

Using your own logic, go away, do some real sailing, then
report back if you survive. As usual, you're just blowing
hot air. You're not going anywhere "after you retire,"
except perhaps to rehab. And that's my opinion. :-)

Jonathan

--
Jonathan Ganz (jganz@N.O_sailnow_S.PAM.com)
http://www.sailnow.com (Sailing on the San Francisco Bay)
http://www.putzsail.com (home of the putz-enabled)

Jonathan Ganz

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:14:38 PM6/15/01
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And when you "go," take Gillipus with you. You're already
quite close obviously.

In article <_HxW6.46205$Uo3.1...@news6.giganews.com>,


Gilligan <Capt...@Bighoot.com> wrote:
>Good Captain,
>
>How right you are. I just happen to recall a quote that is
>apropos.

Jonathan

Bobsprit

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:54:10 PM6/15/01
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You don't
sail; you simply putz around!>>

What can I say? yesterday I met a couple with a Bristol Channel Cutter. They
have been everywhere with the little boat. She's in her late 50's and he's
crippled with hardly any use of his legs. These were REAL sailors, doing the
improbable and carving out there own space and time in a world full of
pretenders.
I would NOT call myself a sailor next to them. Even you, Neal, would have to
give these two their due.
I can only hope that someday, not too long from now, I can approach that
mindset. I admired that well traveled craft of theirs and dreamed of what they
have seen. They admired modest little Ghost and remembered the days when they
"Putzed" around in a Pearson 26. Now they were graduates. True Sailors.

RB

SAIL LOCO

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Jun 15, 2001, 10:07:00 PM6/15/01
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<<<<<Nay, a real sailor's entire
life revolves around his vessel which is his home, his
transportation, his love, his challenge, his sport, his
identity and his very lifeblood.>>>>>>

No protest from this end just an observation. The above may be true for
someone who has no human loves or friends. I wish I could feel sory for you
but your misserable attitude and hatefull posts won't allow that. Enjoy your
remaining years.
Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Alan Baker

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Jun 15, 2001, 10:23:06 PM6/15/01
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In article <7nxW6.46197$Uo3.1...@news6.giganews.com>,
"Capt. Neal®" <Capt...@Bighoot.com> wrote:


>Dear Group,
>
<snip>
>
>Respectfully,
>Capt. Neal
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

<Yawn>

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that
wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the
bottom of that cupboard."

d parker

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Jun 16, 2001, 12:04:56 AM6/16/01
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A bit bored at the moment Neal?

DP


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Scøtt Vernøn®

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Jun 16, 2001, 4:13:30 AM6/16/01
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My pappy always told me,'don't brag about sumpin you're gonna do, till after
ya done it'.


Capt. Neal dreams of being a sailor.......
>It really amazes me how perverted I is. Here I am,

katysails

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Jun 16, 2001, 7:49:28 AM6/16/01
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"I am,
>a real sailor who lives aboard, works ashore to further my
>ability to live aboard and cruise to the far corners of the
>world, and is about to call an end to the workaday world of
>the common lubber and go sailing for the remainder of my days
>and you cast aspersions on my lifestyle and goals. You people
>are petty, jealous, pathetic simpletons who would not know a
>sailor if you saw one."

We just wish you'd quit talking about it and get at it...go already...leave....
katysails
S/V Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32

: http://home.talkcity.com/ArenaBlvd/katysails/index.html

Capt. Neal®

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Jun 16, 2001, 9:29:14 AM6/16/01
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Scott,

Haven't you bothered to read any of my previous posts? Good
Lord, swabbie! Haven't I said I am merely taking a reverse
sabbatical, so to speak, so I can CONTINUE my cruising and
voyaging? I was cruising and voyaging when I stopped to
acquire the means to do so again and, now, I'm close to the
point of doing so.

You putzes are just green with envy because you are incapable
of doing such a thing yourselves, haven't the gonads to even
try, lack the skills and desire and will always be lubbers
because hypocrisy is your chosen way of life.

The way I see it, there are only a couple other individuals
who post to this group who are not presently real sailors but
have the potential to become cruisers and voyagers. That would
be Bobsprit, Moroon, Donal and Per. Bobsprit's the more likely
to succeed because he is smart enough to not allow himself to
be sidedtracked by frivolous, racing activities. Not only
that, but Bobsprit will eventually find that one in a million
sailor woman and they both will enjoy many years of
exploration both on the seas of the world and in a
relationship the lot of you will never experience because you
are too frightened to take up such a manly challenge.

As for me, I can say with complete honesty, "Been there, done
that!" Now, is the time for a single-hander in me to take on
the challenges the seas can provide. It is a lonely journey,
and long. . . but, if you think about it, all men must
eventually journey to a final unknown destination alone. Real
men fear it not.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Capt. Neal®

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Jun 16, 2001, 9:32:00 AM6/16/01
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The day will come soon enough. But, in the meanwhile, remember
these words from a famous song. "Don't it always seem to go
that you don't know what you've got till it's gone . . ."


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Don White

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Jun 16, 2001, 9:36:22 AM6/16/01
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Don't know what you are on..but think you can ship some up to me??
Should be easy with your connections in the postal service.

Brian Grant

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Jun 16, 2001, 9:45:55 AM6/16/01
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"Capt. NealŽ" wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> Haven't you bothered to read any of my previous posts? Good
> Lord, swabbie! Haven't I said I am merely taking a reverse
> sabbatical, so to speak,

Yeah, I have read quite a few of your previous posts. They say a lot of
things. They are so often conflicting, wrong or, reflect incompetence
as a sailor that your statements are simply not believable.

It will take you years to be half as competent as Grandma Rosalie.

JSB

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Jun 16, 2001, 1:26:40 PM6/16/01
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"Capt. Neal?" <Capt...@Bighoot.com> wrote in message news:<7nxW6.46197$Uo3.1...@news6.giganews.com>...

> Dear Group,
>
> Unless you live aboard your sailboat you are not really
> capable of understanding what sailing is really all about.
>
> Sailing is more than just an escape from the daily grind.
> Sailing is more than just a getaway and a social opportunity
> where you go down to the dock, posture and trade lies with the
> other dock scum. Sailing is not something to do so you can
> keep your sanity because you are burdened with all the
> trappings of modern-day society, such as it is.
>
> You people miss the point of sailing entirely when you speak
> of it as just another 'activity'. Your minds are numb to the
> possibility and fact that sailing is a complete lifestyle in
> and of itself.
>
> Yes, the complete sailor does not live ashore and 'escape' for
> a few hours from time to time. Nay, a real sailor's entire
> life revolves around his vessel which is his home, his
> transportation, his love, his challenge, his sport, his
> identity and his very lifeblood.

You left out the place he works and makes a living. A real sailor can
support himself in luxary from the vessel upon which he lives. He does
not carry mail for the man. You excape your poastal existance to boob
on a hook.

Regards,
JSB
MSV RedCloud

Scøtt Vernøn®

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Jun 16, 2001, 1:17:36 PM6/16/01
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Capt. NealŽ wrote ...

>Scott,
>
>Haven't you bothered to read any of my previous posts?

NO

>
>You putzes are just green with envy because you are incapable
>of doing such a thing yourselves, haven't the gonads to even
>try, lack the skills and desire and will always be lubbers
>because hypocrisy is your chosen way of life.


I only work now, to save up enough money to buy a 70' Swan ,and will then
sail around the world 16 times,non-stop, singlehanded. Now I ask you, who is
the *REAL SAILOR* here?

Is that how you play the game?


>
>It is a lonely journey,

It wouldn't be if you weren't such a PUTZ.

pm

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Jun 16, 2001, 7:45:43 PM6/16/01
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If a picture is worth a thousand words, what worth is the living thing?

Bob, I really think you've got a glimpse of a crusier. Did you get the name
of the BCC? You know there has only been a little over a hundred built since
1976?

pm


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Scøtt Vernøn®

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Jun 17, 2001, 11:39:43 AM6/17/01
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Joe, I've taken the liberty to correct your spelling.

JSB wrote ...
>
> You escape your postal existence with Bobby
>on a hook.
>

Andrew Holder

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Jun 17, 2001, 3:58:19 PM6/17/01
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To slightly misquote Del Boy, "YOU REALLY ARE A 22 CHARACTER PLONKER NEAL"

The best thing of all, is that you probably haven't got a f*****g clue what
I mean, but every single person in the UK knows who said it and can
visualise how apt that comment is.

Even if you know who Del Boy is, you wouldn't understand the humour.

It's really great to have a private joke with everyone else in the group, at
your expense. Hope it makes you feel as small as you try to make other
people feel.

Au contraire, la plume de ma tante, Rodney.

Andrew


John Edginton

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Jun 17, 2001, 3:52:05 PM6/17/01
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Andrew Holder <andrew...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Smile. I nearly **** myself Andrew... What a gem... :-)

John


Capt. Neal®

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Jun 17, 2001, 6:33:16 PM6/17/01
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Don't be so proud of yourself, wanker!

Just because I'm a Yank, it doesn't necessarily follow that
I'm ignorant of the sordid bilge water you Brits call life. I
happen to have heard of Del Boy from 'Only Fools And Horses'.
It seems the character is quite popular.

22 characters is the limit for domain name registration so
your little insult also is quite apparent. Too bad it lacks
humor.

Putz!

~~CN


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Capt. Neal®

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Jun 17, 2001, 6:36:51 PM6/17/01
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And, if I'm a 'plonker' then you are a 'pukka noofter'!


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Capt. Neal®

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Jun 17, 2001, 6:42:13 PM6/17/01
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And, one more thing

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> Au contraire, la plume de ma tante, Rodney.

It's "Plume de la Tante". You can't even get your own
countries humor right!

Dipstick! Boeuf a la Mode.

~~CN


Capt. Neal®

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<snip>


Andrew Holder

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Jun 18, 2001, 6:40:46 AM6/18/01
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Yes, I was right, you didn't, and don't understand it. You've missed the
point and don't know why. Subtlety was never your strong point was it?

Judging by the furious tirade, I've obviously rattled you. Excellent!

Andrew.

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Andrew Holder

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Jun 18, 2001, 6:57:37 AM6/18/01
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It also nicely illustrates the biggest flaw in your character, that when
someone gets the better of you, you just resort to verbal abuse.

You really are crass aren't you ?

Andrew.


JHP

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Bullseye!
John


chrisknibbs

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Andrew Holder <andrew...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>Nice one son
>
>


Andrew Holder

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Jun 19, 2001, 5:08:09 AM6/19/01
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Ta very much, Unc!

>
> >Nice one son
> >
> >
>
>


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