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JAFFOR ULLAH CALLS INDIAN C.V. RAMAN AND KHORANA, (BANGLA)DESHI

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Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky

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Nov 18, 2001, 10:41:35 AM11/18/01
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Dear Bangladeshi Folks:
The distinguished University of Cincinati Ph.D, Abul Hasnath Jaffor
Ullah
has called Nobel Laureates C.V. Raman and Har Govind Khorana, both
Indian Nationals and Naturalized U.S. Citizens, (Bangla)Deshi !!!!
Here is the passage for the readers to find out for themselves. I am
reproducing it from his reply to another thread.
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It is almost like name-dropping! Again, it hardly
matters where one goes to finish their degrees. By the way, among our
Deshi
Nobel Laureates both Professors C.V. Raman (Nobel Prize in Physics,
1930),
and Har Govind Khorana (Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology in
1968) did
not attend any prestigious schools for their doctoral degrees. But
that
hardly deterred them from achieving the most coveted prize. It is
about the
time that people who put much emphasis on schools should grow up.

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Tarek Ali

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Nov 18, 2001, 3:22:35 PM11/18/01
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What is the surprise here? Is it not well known that this Janoar U is
a circumcised Hindu and is relentlessly working for 'unification' of
Bangladesh with India? What else will he call the Indians other than
Deshi? Until someone kicks him in his dhoti-clad rear real hard, he
will continue to work as an Indian agent to turn Bangladesh into an
Indian hegemony. The janoar now openly says that Indians are our
deshi, because he thinks that his sam kaka is now going wipe the
stinky behind of his Brahmin friends in India. Sorry, he will be
disappointed.

TA


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JafforUllah

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Nov 18, 2001, 4:18:42 PM11/18/01
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In the parlance of Indian subcontinent anything relating to this
subcontinent is called Deshi. Thus, Deshi Admi is not a person from
Bangladesh. Similarly, Deshi food is not your Panta_Bhaat and Shutki Maach.
Go ask any person from Bombay what Deshi means. You guys will be pleasantly
surprised by the answer.

I'm astounded by the knowledge of these 'Arbacheens' who claim to
know-it-all! No wonder, the quality of education in Bangladesh has fallen so
much so that most of these 'Arbacheens' have hard time getting a Ph.D.
degree even though some of them have attended undergraduate schools in
America or in the West. Such is the pathetic state of our real DESHI folks.
What more can I say?

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Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky

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Nov 19, 2001, 12:19:56 AM11/19/01
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"JafforUllah" <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<wsVJ7.24126$Lo5.3...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>...

> In the parlance of Indian subcontinent anything relating to this
> subcontinent is called Deshi.
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In other words, Jaffor Ullah considers the undivided and prepartioned
"Subcontinent" as his "Desh". To keep things simple and not be
confused by our pundit's conception of "Desh", I will not initiate a
dialogue on the etymology of the word "Desh" but let me just say,
however he understands it, interchanging the word "Desh" with the word
"subcontinent' is like interchanging the word "canal" with the word
"ocean". The Ocean might seem like a canal to our distinguished
Cincinati Ph.D. but that body of water is not a canal. I think, our
learned NFB Editor in Chief has lost his sense of boundary
and proportion.

>Thus, Deshi Admi is not a person from
> Bangladesh. Similarly, Deshi food is not your Panta_Bhaat and Shutki Maach.
> Go ask any person from Bombay what Deshi means. You guys will be pleasantly
> surprised by the answer.

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Well, "Admi" is a Hindi word. Obviously, if our Pundit Jaffor Ullah
considers his language to be Hindi and wants to find out from "person
in Bombay" what Deshi really means, isn't it clear and obvious what he
implies by his "Desh" ?

********************************************************************************

> I'm astounded by the knowledge of these 'Arbacheens' who claim to
> know-it-all!

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O ! Come On P.J. (Pundit Jaffor Ullah) :):) We are so ignorant in
Hindi that we can not understand your beautiful Bangla :) Could you
please teach us what the word "arbacheen" means ?
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>No wonder, the quality of education in Bangladesh has fallen so
> much so that most of these 'Arbacheens' have hard time getting a Ph.D.
> degree even though some of them have attended undergraduate schools in
> America or in the West. Such is the pathetic state of our real DESHI folks.

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P.J., Please forgive us, the ignoble Bangladeshis:) With all our
stupidity we could not understand :):) what the quality of education
in Bangladesh has to do with getting a Ph.D. in America after an
undergraduate degree here ? :):)
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> What more can I say?

Perhaps, "Come For a B.J. like our P.J." :):):):):):)lol

**I would leave it up to the imaginative and thoughtful mind what B.J.
means.

Syed Mahmud

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Nov 19, 2001, 11:31:15 AM11/19/01
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The term 'DESHI' ( not 'Desh' and neither Bangla-Deshi )
as used in today's colloquial English, applies to anything of Indian
Origin. Obviously, someone is not totally aware of the usage of 'Deshi' as
opposed to the normal meanings of 'Desh'.


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Asif Hasan

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Nov 19, 2001, 6:12:04 PM11/19/01
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arthon...@hotmail.com (Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky) wrote in message news:<d210eefa.01111...@posting.google.com>...
> "JafforUllah" <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<wsVJ7.24126$Lo5.3...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>...
> > In the parlance of Indian subcontinent anything relating to this
> > subcontinent is called Deshi.
> >Thus, Deshi Admi is not a person from
> > Bangladesh. Similarly, Deshi food is not your Panta_Bhaat and Shutki Maach.
> > Go ask any person from Bombay what Deshi means. You guys will be pleasantly
> > surprised by the answer.

Hindi language definitely has a word called "Desh",but here is my
open challenge to anybody who can prove that Hindi does have a word
"Deshi". "Deshi" is pure Bangla - which in Hindi language is said
"Desi". You Jaffor Ullah can not figure out the dissimilarity between
"Chayanot" and "Chhayanot" having written 500 articles from this
inventive email id chay...@hotmail.com, I do not expect you to know
the difference in "Deshi" and Desi. Just get the hell out of here!

I also want to bring another point here to SCBites' notice, this
Jaffor was caught red-handed while using the fake name Abul Hasanath
to (1) promote his own views, and (2) downplay his antagonists without
having to take any responsibility. After his crime was exposed he
claimed that it was a pen name or "nom de plume" case.

What pen name, we have seen just yesterday that Officially Abul's
full name is ---Abul Hasnat Jaffor Ullah---. So Abul's first name is
Abul Hasnat and CERTAINLY NOT Abul Has--a--nat--h. This clearly shows
that Abul Hasnat Jaffor Ullah even by the remotest chance was not
inclined to use his own name as a pen name. It was in deed a COMPLETE
accident that we found match between two different identities i.e.
Abul Hasanath and Jaffor Ullah.

Shaad M. Ahmad

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Nov 19, 2001, 10:05:37 PM11/19/01
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In article <ntaK7.157092$ez.19...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
Syed Mahmud <smah...@home.com> wrote:

>The term 'DESHI' ( not 'Desh' and neither Bangla-Deshi )
>as used in today's colloquial English, applies to anything of Indian
>Origin. Obviously, someone is not totally aware of the usage of 'Deshi' as
>opposed to the normal meanings of 'Desh'.

The term 'Desi', with the Hindi pronounciation and spelling, is indeed
used in colloquial American English to refer to subcontinental origin. To
the best of my knowledge, 'Deshi', the Bengali pronounciation and spelling,
has not been used in the same context (i.e. to refer to the subcontinent
as a whole).

sh...@leland.stanford.edu - Shaad -
http://cmgm.stanford.edu/~ahmad/
the deviant biologist

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Kamal

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Nov 20, 2001, 8:56:12 PM11/20/01
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Asif Hasan wrote:

> arthon...@hotmail.com (Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky) wrote in message news:<d210eefa.01111...@posting.google.com>...
> > "JafforUllah" <Jaf...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<wsVJ7.24126$Lo5.3...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>...
> > > In the parlance of Indian subcontinent anything relating to this
> > > subcontinent is called Deshi.
> > >Thus, Deshi Admi is not a person from
> > > Bangladesh. Similarly, Deshi food is not your Panta_Bhaat and Shutki Maach.
> > > Go ask any person from Bombay what Deshi means. You guys will be pleasantly
> > > surprised by the answer.
>
> Hindi language definitely has a word called "Desh",but here is my
> open challenge to anybody who can prove that Hindi does have a word
> "Deshi". "Deshi" is pure Bangla - which in Hindi language is said
> "Desi".

Do not display your idiocy any more. Only islamic faggots who are educated in madrasas will be so foolish in displaying his or her
own stupidity. Let me give you a small illustration... heard the name of the movie "PARDESI"?

Clearly that is not a Bengali word. This is a hindi word, which means a person of another country.. par - different, desi... person
belonging to a country.

Dont make a big deal that in hindi they use "desi" and not the "Deshi"... asshole all the roots of Bengali is in Hindi. Acknowledge
that... and give up kissing Arabic dick.

Sala Ullu, bhosdika...behenchod... khote di putra...

Kamal

Syed Mahmud

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Nov 20, 2001, 11:37:42 PM11/20/01
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While some of us may be making an unnecessary big deal out of "Desi" and
"Deshi", that in no way compares to your level of idiocy when you write

"all the roots of Bengali is in Hindi".

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Asif Hasan

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Nov 21, 2001, 10:17:51 AM11/21/01
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Kamal (aka Shomir),
Sanskrit is the mother of Bengali as well as Hindi Devnagri scripts.
Sanskrit words are adopted in Hindi and Bengali in Tatsama and Tadvaba
forms.Any cross relation between Hindi and Bengali wordings do not
mean one has come from the other.
I am familiar with all those Hindi slangs you used.As a matter of fact
I lived in India for couple of Years. And yes I am educated in a
Madrasa if you count INDIAN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY TO BE ONE.
Bye.

jos

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Nov 21, 2001, 11:23:29 AM11/21/01
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"Syed Mahmud" <smah...@home.com> wrote in message news:<qcGK7.163664$ez.21...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>...

> While some of us may be making an unnecessary big deal out of "Desi" and
> "Deshi", that in no way compares to your level of idiocy when you write
> "all the roots of Bengali is in Hindi".
>

Although not all the words in Bengali came from Hindi, it has
definitely more
association with Hindi rather than Arabic. In fact, Bengali in West
Bengal is
more Sanskrtized than Hindi or Bangladeshi Bengali. For example,
muslim people from BD call water as "pani", unlike "jal" that is used
in WB.

Syed Mahmud

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Nov 21, 2001, 3:01:43 PM11/21/01
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It is not a question of 'association with Hindi' versus 'association with
Arabic' (I'm a little amazed as to how Arabic came into the picture here).
Just the thought of the history of Bengali and Hindi makes the statement
("all the roots of Bengali is in Hindi") highly idiotic.

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Anamika_1971

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Nov 23, 2001, 12:54:51 PM11/23/01
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Does Mir Jaffor Mullah calls Pakistanis Deshi too ???

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Anamika_1971

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Dec 5, 2001, 4:34:27 PM12/5/01
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Try not to take pictures in front of a mirror ;)) You will end up looking at
your own ugly face.

PS - I decided not to call you a "lower form of mammal" - those mammals
might feel offended.

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>
> The way you are phrasing your remarks these days, specially distorting my
> name, it looks like you may have turned into a lower form of mammal.
> Neanderthal? Nope. Far worse! To see what you really look like, please
> view this thread as html document. You are shown here on the right side.
> The big one on the left is Tarek Ali. You two look really cute! The
photo
> appears through the courtesy of AP Photo/David Longstreath.
>
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> > Does Mir Jaffor Mullah calls Pakistanis Deshi too ???
> >

> > The rest deleted for the sake of brevity<
>
>
>


Habshi

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Dec 5, 2001, 10:35:06 PM12/5/01
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gone into the 30 day killfile for 1 original and the rest quoted lines
.

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:54:51 GMT, "Anamika_1971"
<anamik...@yahoo.com> wrote:


chandan

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Dec 7, 2001, 2:05:46 AM12/7/01
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It is so stupid that people here are arguing about bengali, hindi and
sanskrit....without good knowledge of all this language at all...I am
bengali born in west bengal and raised in UP for 20 years...I studied
Engish, Hindi, Sanskrit and bengali side by side...I can speak and
write all this language very fluently...and also took several
linguistic classes in colleges in US.
So....with all this experience let me tell you ..Sanskrit is mother of
mostly all the language..bengali and hindi came from sanskrit...desi
is both a Hindi and bengali word..someword challenged that desh or
desh is not a hindi word..whoever it is most me a moron!!
Not only this the most widely spoken English language also came from
Sanskrit and Latin...English is one of the Indo-European language
among so many other languages spoken in the world. It was a surprise
to me till took a linguistic class in my undergraduate study.....
I think I have said enaugh .)))
Chandan

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