anthrax - too much information, not enough analysis?
Ed Lake
anthrax terrorist, but no one seems to be putting it all
together. And the FBI also seems to be just gathering
information instead of analyzing it.
If they were analyzing the information, why wouldn't a lot
more be said about the Indianapolis letters other than one
story in The New York Post? Those 15 letters to the media
could be vital!
If they were analyzing the information, how could the New
York Times say that the anthrax letters were "average
size" when the Brokaw and Daschle letters are nearly
square and the two others appear to be A4-size, which is
rare in America?
I've assembled everything I could find about the anthrax
cases into one place, here:
http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
The facts seem to indicate that the FBI knows who the
anthrax terrorist is, but he has a "perfect alibi" and
they are afraid of another Richard Jewel situation. Plus,
it could be very embarrassing if he turns out to be a Bush
Republican and a life-long NRA member who just felt it was
time to take some personal action to speed up the Right
Wing agenda.
Sort the facts out for yourself. There are a lot of
facts, and I think they are all here:
http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
Ed
DOUGLAS G.V. REIMAN
"Ed Lake" <det...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:3C2B5C5D...@newsguy.com...
> The news media seems to be gathering facts about the
> anthrax terrorist, but no one seems to be putting it all
> together. And the FBI also seems to be just gathering
> information instead of analyzing it.
>
> If they were analyzing the information, why wouldn't a lot
> more be said about the Indianapolis letters other than one
> story in The New York Post? Those 15 letters to the media
> could be vital!
>
> If they were analyzing the information, how could the New
> York Times say that the anthrax letters were "average
> size" when the Brokaw and Daschle letters are nearly
> square and the two others appear to be A4-size, which is
> rare in America?
>
> I've assembled everything I could find about the anthrax
> cases into one place, here:
> http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
>
> The facts seem to indicate that the FBI knows who the
> anthrax terrorist is, but he has a "perfect alibi" and
> they are afraid of another Richard Jewel situation. Plus,
> it could be very embarrassing if he turns out to be a Bush
> Republican and a life-long NRA member who just felt it was
> time to take some personal action to speed up the Right
> Wing agenda.
>
seriously if any right winger is going to proclaim "Allah is
great" on the letters. IF it walks like a duck, quacks like a
duck, and has a bill like a duck, it probably is a duck.
There is no logical reason for anyone other than Al Qaeda
terrorist to have sent these Anthrax letters. Especially when
you consider the following circumstantial evidence I posted some
months back.
Your collection and analysis is very good, but you might want to
consider some of the circumstantial evidence I came up with also:
(Listed below).
ANTHRAX & TERRORISTS
A few months past I posted that I believed the Anthrax attack on
America was coming from the terrorists. I based my hypothesis on
the following information:
1. The head goon Atta (Atta was the apparent leader of the 19
terrorists that attacked the WTC on 9/11) was inquiring heavily
about hiring crop-dusting aircraft.
2. Atta and an associate goon arrived at a Florida pharmacy
inquiring about medication to use for a bacterial skin infection.
His partner was complaining about respiratory problems.
3. The autopsy that I assume was performed on Atta remains and
the rest of the 9/11 terrorists has been kept secret. I find
that intriguing as the autopsy could show whether Atta or any of
the other terrorists were infected with anthrax. (This could not
be a complete autopsy and would be a forensic review of bits and
pieces of all those bodies recovered for evidence of
anthrax....this analysis has probably not been completed as of
this date. Although it might be impossible to even identify
remains, it would be enough to find some remains with Anthrax
residue. That would prove it was the terrorists that were
handling Anthrax.)
4. The anthrax attacks coincided perfectly with Osama Bin
Laden's videotaped threats of retaliation if we attacked
Afghanistan.
5. There were no manifestos nor claims nor demands associated
with the anthrax attacks. No demands whatsoever. This is
typical of middle eastern terrorists which wish to hide out of
fear of retaliation. Most (not all) "home-spun" terrorists
either take responsibility for their deeds, or contact the press
with demands or reasons for the attack. Demands or reasons are
conspicuously absent in regards to the Anthrax attacks. This
indicates that a group and not just an individual is involved.
For an individual to go to the lengths to produce weapons grade
Anthrax, which I doubt is even possible for even a well qualified
individual, and then use that material to attack many wide-spread
Government officials, with diverse political agendas, and attack
the Federal Banking system to boot - indicates to me the attack
was designed to attack America in general and not to further some
specific political agenda.
Also, if an individual took all that time and trouble, he/she
would almost certainly make some demands or claims. Otherwise
the most important thing he/she ever did would be completely
wasted. I doubt if the criminal type that would implement such
inhuman actions could keep quiet about it. This has all the
earmarks of a terrorist group.
6. The letters received in conjunction with the anthrax all
contained pro Muslim statements, and anti-American statements
that *almost word for word* was said *first* by the Al Qaeda
spokesperson on video. (The former school teacher from Kuwait).
So how did the person that sent the anthrax already know what
the Al Qaeda representative recorded on a video tape before that
video was presented to the press? Since these Anthrax letters
were sent *before* that video was delivered to the Western press,
the person sending the Anthrax must have had access to that Video
before it was delivered to the West. Ergo, the Anthrax sender is
an Al Qaeda terrorist or it is one hellva coincidence.
7. Iraq is known to have manufactured weapons' grade anthrax.
The anthrax that was used in the envelopes was indeed weapons'
grade. Moreover, Mr. Atta was also seen meeting with Iraqi
intelligence agents in Prague on *two* occasions within a few
months of the 9/11 attack. Mr. Atta clearly made very long and
special trips to meet with the Iraqi intelligence agent. For
what purpose?
8. Saddam has provided a great deal of money to terrorists, and
has even secretly trained terrorists to attack America on Iraqi
soil. Why were the 9/11 terrorist trained on Iraqi soil? If
they were trained in Iraq, then why would Saddam deny them the
use of his anthrax stockpile? Also why would these specific 9/11
terrorists be trained in Iraq and not in Afghanistan with the
other Al Qaeda terrorists? (a) because Bin Laden wanted to hide
their origins, and (b) because these terrorists were going to
deal with special weapons that only Iraq controlled....which are
Chemical and Biological weapons.
We now know for sure that all of the 9/11 terrorists were trained
in Iraq. Obviously Saddam believed that America would never have
proof of where they were trained, and if he was willing to take
the chance to kill thousands of Americans, he certainly would
have offered his terrorist goons the opportunity to use some of
his weapons grade Anthrax.
Meanwhile, documents have been discovered in a house in Kabul
that describe how to use Anthrax as a weapon.
(The evidence against the terrorists mounts.)
9. The envelopes and letters that were written containing the
anthrax all contained block printing that sloped to the right.
This is indicative of an individual that is used to writing from
right to left instead of left to right. Arabic is written from
right to left.
A. After writing the letter, he tried to address the envelope,
at that point his control was waning. By writing left to right,
his control would be reversed and that would cause a right
downward slope in his writing. At least it is clear the anthrax
terrorist is a person that is not practiced in addressing
envelopes with a left to right writing requirements. Hardly a
"home-grown" American.
10. Envelopes containing the precise same anthrax were received
in South America (at a children's school) posted from Geneva
Switzerland. Since when do we have home-grown terrorists living
in Switzerland?
Above were the reasons for my initial hypothesists that the
Anthrax attack was in fact a direct biological attack on America
by the combined terrorist organizations of Al Qaeda, Hamas,
Islamic Jihad, Iraqi Intelligence and perhaps the Yasser Arafat
organizations.
But now, even more evidence has surfaced linking the terrorists
with the anthrax biological attack on America:
The Chicago Tribune Reported on December 2, 2001:
1. A house in Kabul that was frequented by a number of
international charities contained volumes of documents related to
the use of Biological weapons, *especially* anthrax.
2. The title of the Taliban house was "Ummah Tameer e Nau" or
"Foundation for Construction." Clearly this headquarters was
more interested in Chemical/Biological and Radioactive warfare
than "building houses for Afghanistanis."
3. "Piles of papers containing detailed information about the
use of anthrax in biological warfare, boxes containing gas masks
and diagrams suggestive of a plan to use a helium-filled balloon
to disperse anthrax across a wide area were found in the house in
Kabul."
4. The president of the charity that occupied the house was
none other than the infamous Mr. Bashgiruddin Mahmood, *a former
leading nuclear scientist for Pakistan. * Mr. Mahmood had been
detained by the Pakistani government along with others and
question about his direct links with the Taliban. Mr. Mahmood
denied all knowledge of the contents of the house.
5. Regardless of Mr. Mahmood's denials *someone* occupying that
house had a detailed interest in anthrax and the study of the
ways to deliver biological weapons in general. One upstairs room
contained dozens of copies of documents about anthrax, including
details about the U.S. military's vaccination program downloaded
from a Defense Department site on the Internet.
6. One document found in the house was titled: "The bacteria:
(anthrax) what you need to know." This document contains the
statement that "anthrax spores can be easily spread in the air by
missiles, rockets, artillery, aerial bombs and sprays." (There
were 10 copies of this document, indicating this document was
presented to a group or council of people.)
7. On the floor of this house was also a disassembled rocket
alongside a canister labeled "helium" as well as two bags of well
refined unidentified powder. (Probably not anthrax but a dummy
powder closely resembling the anthrax powder for practice
delivery training.)
8. Pictures of ground missiles are linked by lines to a diagram
of a balloon. Mathematical calculations were found on the
pictures that indicate the height at which the balloon would fly,
the distance from which it would be shot down and the area over
which its contents would be dispersed. Beside one of the
balloons is the word "polystyrene" and beside another the word
"cyanide" and beside another, the word "anthrax."
The documents found in the house were all faded and were in use
long before the anthrax attack on America. Therefore, they could
not have been planted after the anthrax attack for the purpose of
propaganda. Clearly the occupants of the house did not wish to
be caught in possession of these documents. That is probably why
they were abandoned.
I realize all of this information is circumstantial, and we do
not have a terrorist coming forward with anthrax on his forehead,
providing us with a sworn confession, and corroborating his
confession with irrefutable details.
**But our government must realize that the evidence is mounting
that America has been attacked with weapons of mass destruction
by an outside terrorist force.**
We must realize the five main terrorist organizations, which I
also believe are closely linked, (Al Qaeda, Hamas, Islamic Jihad,
Iraqi Intelligence and Yasser Arafat's organization) are behind
the anthrax attack on America.
I also suspect these linked terrorist organizations are planning
other attacks, and certainly a similar attack on Israel.
So when do we take our gloves off and start recognizing and
dealing with the true enemies of America and Israel? Should we
keep debating the obvious and wait for another attack before we
realize that we cannot deal with or negociate with terrorists?
All of the Middle Eastern terrorists organizations are clearly
linked. There is no difference between Hamas, Islamic Jihad and
Al Qaeda or Yasser Arafat. Bombing one terrorist faction while
trying to negociate with the others is preposterous . . . and
exactly what the terrorists want us to do.
Doug Grant (Tm)
> Sort the facts out for yourself. There are a lot of
> facts, and I think they are all here:
> http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
>
> Ed
>
Add this information to your facts Ed if you wish.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Ed Lake
"Allah is great" is NOT a Muslim saying. I state that clearly. It's
something a non-Muslim would say - particularly someone who watches
action movies. A Muslim would say ""Allahu akbar", which means "God
is great". "Allah is great" is a combination of two languages. It's
an indicator that the terrorist was NOT a Muslim.
>
> There is no logical reason for anyone other than Al Qaeda
> terrorist to have sent these Anthrax letters. Especially when
> you consider the following circumstantial evidence I posted some
> months back.
>
There is every reason for a domestic terrorist to send the letters.
Read my web page again: http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
And how can you possibly believe that an Al Qaeda terrorist would
take all sorts of precautions to make certain no one was harmed!?
That's ridiculous! Would an Al Qaeda terrorist tell the person who
got the letter that they should take penicillin, a perfect antidote
for anthrax? Would an Al Qaeda terrorist tell the person that the
letter contains anthrax? Would an Al Qaeda terrorist tape up the
edges of the envelope in an attempt to make certain the anthrax
didn't escape into the postal sysem?
>
> Your collection and analysis is very good, but you might want to
> consider some of the circumstantial evidence I came up with also:
> (Listed below).
>
> ANTHRAX & TERRORISTS
>
> A few months past I posted that I believed the Anthrax attack on
> America was coming from the terrorists. I based my hypothesis on
> the following information:
>
> 1. The head goon Atta (Atta was the apparent leader of the 19
> terrorists that attacked the WTC on 9/11) was inquiring heavily
> about hiring crop-dusting aircraft.
>
If they had the ton of anthrax that would be needed to do a good
spray job from an aircraft, how come they only used a couple grams?
There are lots of other chemicals that can be sprayed from a
crop-duster and do damage.
(snip) just conspiracy stuff
>
> 4. The anthrax attacks coincided perfectly with Osama Bin
> Laden's videotaped threats of retaliation if we attacked
> Afghanistan.
>
And you consider a few letters containing a crude form of anthrax to
be "retaliation"? Most of the anthrax letters from the mailing of
Sept. 18th were just tossed out as being crank mail. There were
probably 5 letters: Brokaw, The NY Post, AMI, Dan Rather and Peter
Jennings. All but the first two letters were tossed out as being
crank mail. And the first two weren't kept because they contained
anthrax, they were kept because it was the procedure to keep such
things for awhile.
>
> 5. There were no manifestos nor claims nor demands associated
> with the anthrax attacks. No demands whatsoever. This is
> typical of middle eastern terrorists which wish to hide out of
> fear of retaliation.
That's simply not true. Whenever there is a terrorist attack in the
Middle East, someone claims responsibility pretty quickly. They want
the enemy to know who hit them.
> Most (not all) "home-spun" terrorists
> either take responsibility for their deeds, or contact the press
> with demands or reasons for the attack. Demands or reasons are
> conspicuously absent in regards to the Anthrax attacks. This
> indicates that a group and not just an individual is involved.
>
Did Timothy McVeigh have a letter with demands and/or explanations
all prepared? Did Ted Kozynski tell people why he was doing his
deeds after each deed? (Yes, I know he did publish his manifesto,
but that was at the very end.) Did New York's "Mad Bomber" publish
demands? What domestic terrorist are you talking about?
>
> For an individual to go to the lengths to produce weapons grade
> Anthrax, which I doubt is even possible for even a well qualified
> individual, and then use that material to attack many wide-spread
> Government officials, with diverse political agendas, and attack
> the Federal Banking system to boot - indicates to me the attack
> was designed to attack America in general and not to further some
> specific political agenda.
>
Huh? The anthrax only went to the media on the first mailing, and
only to two Democratic Senators on the second mailing.
>
> Also, if an individual took all that time and trouble, he/she
> would almost certainly make some demands or claims. Otherwise
> the most important thing he/she ever did would be completely
> wasted. I doubt if the criminal type that would implement such
> inhuman actions could keep quiet about it. This has all the
> earmarks of a terrorist group.
>
He's not a "criminal type". He's a scientist with a doctorate in
chemical engineering. His motivation was to spur the American
government into action in his area of expertise - so he could get his
job back and be a big shot.
(snip)
> 7. Iraq is known to have manufactured weapons' grade anthrax.
> The anthrax that was used in the envelopes was indeed weapons'
> grade. Moreover, Mr. Atta was also seen meeting with Iraqi
> intelligence agents in Prague on *two* occasions within a few
> months of the 9/11 attack. Mr. Atta clearly made very long and
> special trips to meet with the Iraqi intelligence agent. For
> what purpose?
>
The US Government wasted a LOT of time trying to find some way to pin
the anthrax killings on Iraq, but they just couldn't do it. Iraq
makes its anthrax a different way. There is SOLID evidence that the
anthrax sent to Leahy and Daschle was manufactured in a US facility,
probably the one in Columbus, Ohio.
(snip) just more of the same.
> Sort the facts out for yourself. There are a lot of
> > facts, and I think they are all here:
> > http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
> >
> > Ed
> >
> Add this information to your facts Ed if you wish.
>
> Doug Grant (Tm)
What you provided aren't facts. Mostly they are just bad information
you used to jump to invalid conclusions.
Ed
DOUGLAS G.V. REIMAN
I have had two Muslims on my team for some time. They say that
all the time and disagree with you on that point.
>
> >
> > There is no logical reason for anyone other than Al Qaeda
> > terrorist to have sent these Anthrax letters. Especially
when
> > you consider the following circumstantial evidence I posted
some
> > months back.
> >
>
> There is every reason for a domestic terrorist to send the
letters.
> Read my web page again:
http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
>
> And how can you possibly believe that an Al Qaeda terrorist
would
> take all sorts of precautions to make certain no one was
harmed!?
> That's ridiculous! Would an Al Qaeda terrorist tell the person
who
> got the letter that they should take penicillin, a perfect
antidote
> for anthrax? Would an Al Qaeda terrorist tell the person that
the
> letter contains anthrax? Would an Al Qaeda terrorist tape up
the
> edges of the envelope in an attempt to make certain the anthrax
> didn't escape into the postal sysem?
They were being facetious Ed. That is clear. "Here is poison,
better take the antidote." That is clear Middle Eastern humor
Ed. Taping up the corners was to insure the Anthrax did not leak
out before it reached their specific targets. If they wanted to
hit general targets, they would have mailed the anthrax randomly
to several different locations. These people were clearly
targeting specific Government figures Ed.....clearly what they
said they would do.
>
> >
> > Your collection and analysis is very good, but you might want
to
> > consider some of the circumstantial evidence I came up with
also:
> > (Listed below).
> >
> > ANTHRAX & TERRORISTS
> >
> > A few months past I posted that I believed the Anthrax
attack on
> > America was coming from the terrorists. I based my
hypothesis on
> > the following information:
> >
> > 1. The head goon Atta (Atta was the apparent leader of the
19
> > terrorists that attacked the WTC on 9/11) was inquiring
heavily
> > about hiring crop-dusting aircraft.
> >
>
> If they had the ton of anthrax that would be needed to do a
good
> spray job from an aircraft, how come they only used a couple
grams?
> There are lots of other chemicals that can be sprayed from a
> crop-duster and do damage.
They used a lot more than just a couple of grams Ed. And why
investigate crop dusters if they did not have any agents to use
in those crop dusters? Obviously, they possessed Anthrax, and
were looking for a way to deliver it.
>
> (snip) just conspiracy stuff
(Ed you cannot just snip circumstantial evidence, it needs to be
run in context. Item number #2 is very important...you need to
include that if you want to refute it. Whre did Atta get his bad
skin infection if not from handling Anthrax?
> 2. Atta and an associate goon arrived at a Florida pharmacy
inquiring about medication to use for a bacterial skin infection.
His partner was complaining about respiratory problems.
3. The autopsy that I assume was performed on Atta remains and
the rest of the 9/11 terrorists has been kept secret. I find
that intriguing as the autopsy could show whether Atta or any of
the other terrorists were infected with anthrax. (This could not
be a complete autopsy and would be a forensic review of bits and
pieces of all those bodies recovered for evidence of
anthrax....this analysis has probably not been completed as of
this date. Although it might be impossible to even identify
remains, it would be enough to find some remains with Anthrax
residue. That would prove it was the terrorists that were
handling Anthrax.)
> >
> > 4. The anthrax attacks coincided perfectly with Osama Bin
> > Laden's videotaped threats of retaliation if we attacked
> > Afghanistan.
> >
>
> And you consider a few letters containing a crude form of
anthrax to
> be "retaliation"? Most of the anthrax letters from the
mailing of
> Sept. 18th were just tossed out as being crank mail. There
were
> probably 5 letters: Brokaw, The NY Post, AMI, Dan Rather and
Peter
> Jennings. All but the first two letters were tossed out as
being
> crank mail. And the first two weren't kept because they
contained
> anthrax, they were kept because it was the procedure to keep
such
> things for awhile.
Terrorist do things for fear Ed. They targeted certain
government officials. They did that to show the world they could
reach inside our government and kill anyone they wanted. That is
classic terror tactics Ed.
>
> >
> > 5. There were no manifestos nor claims nor demands
associated
> > with the anthrax attacks. No demands whatsoever. This is
> > typical of middle eastern terrorists which wish to hide out
of
> > fear of retaliation.
>
> That's simply not true. Whenever there is a terrorist attack
in the
> Middle East, someone claims responsibility pretty quickly.
They want
> the enemy to know who hit them.
None of the Al Qaeda attacks were claimed Ed....none. Not the
African bombings, nor the USS Cole nor the 9/11 WTC....nor the
Anthrax.
>
> > Most (not all) "home-spun" terrorists
> > either take responsibility for their deeds, or contact the
press
> > with demands or reasons for the attack. Demands or reasons
are
> > conspicuously absent in regards to the Anthrax attacks. This
> > indicates that a group and not just an individual is
involved.
> >
>
> Did Timothy McVeigh have a letter with demands and/or
explanations
> all prepared? Did Ted Kozynski tell people why he was doing
his
> deeds after each deed? (Yes, I know he did publish his
manifesto,
> but that was at the very end.) Did New York's "Mad Bomber"
publish
> demands? What domestic terrorist are you talking about?
McVeigh did not have the time, but if you read his trial
transcripts that was their intention. Kozynski made several
demands, many before and after his bombs. As far as the New York
Mad Bomber, I do not know anything about him. I know Son of Sam
made all types of claims, as did many other serial killers the
type that would send out Anthrax just to kill. Which could be
the only motivation for an individual.
>
> >
> > For an individual to go to the lengths to produce weapons
grade
> > Anthrax, which I doubt is even possible for even a well
qualified
> > individual, and then use that material to attack many
wide-spread
> > Government officials, with diverse political agendas, and
attack
> > the Federal Banking system to boot - indicates to me the
attack
> > was designed to attack America in general and not to further
some
> > specific political agenda.
> >
>
> Huh? The anthrax only went to the media on the first mailing,
and
> only to two Democratic Senators on the second mailing.
It is my understanding they have found Anthrax in several other
government buildings. Also a Connecticut woman with no ties to
the Government died, and even a hospital worker has died from
inhalation anthrax. Obviously there are more letters Ed. Cross
contamination is not the answer. Especially for the Hospital
worker.
> >
> > Also, if an individual took all that time and trouble, he/she
> > would almost certainly make some demands or claims.
Otherwise
> > the most important thing he/she ever did would be completely
> > wasted. I doubt if the criminal type that would implement
such
> > inhuman actions could keep quiet about it. This has all the
> > earmarks of a terrorist group.
> >
>
> He's not a "criminal type". He's a scientist with a doctorate
in
> chemical engineering. His motivation was to spur the American
> government into action in his area of expertise - so he could
get his
> job back and be a big shot.
>
Well that is a possible scenario, but the person would have to
be deranged and almost insane to go to the lengths he did just to
get his job back. If he was that qualified, I doubt if he would
be in need of a job.
> (snip)
(I reposted your snip Ed...you need to deal with issue, it is one
of the best to prove it was terrorists. Why did you snip it?)
6. The letters received in conjunction with the anthrax all
contained pro Muslim statements, and anti-American statements
that *almost word for word* was said *first* by the Al Qaeda
spokesperson on video. (The former school teacher from Kuwait).
So how did the person that sent the anthrax already know what
the Al Qaeda representative recorded on a video tape before that
video was presented to the press? Since these Anthrax letters
were sent *before* that video was delivered to the Western press,
the person sending the Anthrax must have had access to that Video
before it was delivered to the West. Ergo, the Anthrax sender is
an Al Qaeda terrorist or it is one hellva coincidence.
>
> > 7. Iraq is known to have manufactured weapons' grade
anthrax.
> > The anthrax that was used in the envelopes was indeed
weapons'
> > grade. Moreover, Mr. Atta was also seen meeting with Iraqi
> > intelligence agents in Prague on *two* occasions within a few
> > months of the 9/11 attack. Mr. Atta clearly made very long
and
> > special trips to meet with the Iraqi intelligence agent. For
> > what purpose?
> >
>
> The US Government wasted a LOT of time trying to find some way
to pin
> the anthrax killings on Iraq, but they just couldn't do it.
Iraq
> makes its anthrax a different way. There is SOLID evidence
that the
> anthrax sent to Leahy and Daschle was manufactured in a US
facility,
> probably the one in Columbus, Ohio.
No Ed, the original "strain" came from Ohio. But that does not
mean the actual Anthrax used came from Columbus Ohio. Clearly
the Anthrax was "weapons grade." Columbus did not produce
"Weapons Grade." The Anthrax was duplicated and processed
somewhere that could convert it to Weapons Grade. That takes
more than just a deranged individual Ed.
>
> (snip) just more of the same.
>
8. Saddam has provided a great deal of money to terrorists, and
Doug Grant (Tm)
> Sort the facts out for yourself. There are a lot of
> facts, and I think they are all here:
> http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
>
> Ed
>
Add this information to your facts Ed if you wish.
Doug Grant (Tm)
> > Sort the facts out for yourself. There are a lot of
>
> > > facts, and I think they are all here:
> > > http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > Add this information to your facts Ed if you wish.
> >
> > Doug Grant (Tm)
>
> What you provided aren't facts. Mostly they are just bad
information
> you used to jump to invalid conclusions.
>
> Ed
>
So you think that finding all those documents about anthrax in
the house in Kabul, and all the rest is lies Ed? You believe
that information is "bad" and your information is "good?" Why is
all of my information, and the information provided by the press
"bad" Ed?
The obvious conclusion is that Al Qaeda terrorists are behind the
Anthrax delivery Ed. If you are here to produce disinformation,
you need to address the issues provided by the press and me Ed.,
you cannot just snip them to make them go away.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Ed Lake
(snip)
>
> The obvious conclusion is that Al Qaeda terrorists are behind the
> Anthrax delivery Ed. If you are here to produce disinformation,
> you need to address the issues provided by the press and me Ed.,
> you cannot just snip them to make them go away.
>
> Doug Grant (Tm)
Doug,
It's a waste of time to list 50 different items that you think prove
something but actually prove nothing. I get all my information from
the media and the FBI, just as you do. And there are very few in the
media or the FBI who still think the anthrax terrorist is part of Al
Qaeda. That notion was absurd from the get-go and is becoming more
and more absurd every day.
How can you believe that Al Qaeda would send enough anthrax to kill
100,000 people to an obscure Senator from Vermont? Why didn't they
send the anthrax to EVERY senator, every representative and to
everyone in the Pentagon. The anthrax in the letters to Daschle and
Leahy was enough for that. Why waste it on two Democratic Senators?
That's not Al Qaeda.
Terrorists pick their targets very carefully. And the one thing that
makes Leahy stand out as a target is that he's a senior member of the
Appropriations Committee - which provides (or denies) funding for
bioweapons research.
But this and other discussions have made me realize a couple things:
(1) The anthrax letters were most likely the work of a team
consisting of a mentor and a disciple. The mentor knew he would be a
likely suspect because of his credentials and attitude, so he was
establishing a "perfect" alibi for himself in Wisconsin at the same
moment his disciple was mailing the letters in Trenton, New Jersey.
(2) The mentor is actually bold enough to play games with the police
and the FBI. On the date the anthrax letters were mailed, he
actually TOLD the police and the FBI that he had "an anthrax delivery
system" in his basement. The police and FBI searched his basement
and "took the man's computer, and keypads from a telephone and a
microwave oven" but they didn't realize what the delivery system was
- because the letters had not yet been delivered. The delivery
system was a few evelopes which the FBI wouldn't even have noticed!
My web site will be updated later today to include this new
information. The site is here:
http://extra.newsguy.com/~detect/anthrax.html
Ed